Time  Nick            Message
00:03 brendan         howdy chris_n2
00:05 chris_n2        heya brendan
00:15 * chris_n2      manually creates a pull request since github does not appear to have the ability to email a pull request :-(
00:31 brendan         cya #koha - heading home to cook :)
00:36 chris           cya brendan
01:06 chris_n2        cooking++
02:17 * chris_n2      wonders if brendan attained a culinary achievement
02:50 brendan         chris_n2 an excellent stew will be ready for dinner tomorrow night :)
02:50 chris_n2        sounds good :-)
02:57 chris_n2        g'night #Koha
02:58 brendan         night chris_n2
03:33 Amit            heya brendan, chris
03:33 Amit            good morning #koha
03:33 brendan         good evening Amit
03:33 brendan         @wunder new delhi
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03:33 brendan         @wunder 93117
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07:05 Ropuch          Morning #koha
07:20 CGI076          I m using koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian, when I want to import and save any record from z3950 search
07:22 CGI076          It show ' cant save this record because the following field aren't filled: *ta942 subfield c koha [defualt] item in tab 9
07:22 CGI076          can any one help me?
07:27 Amit            heya nicomo, Ropuch
07:40 nicomo          hi Amit
07:49 CGI076          how can I solve this problem
07:49 CGI076          ?
08:42 CGI605          I asked Question, can any body help me....?
09:18 nicomo          CGI605: I guess you have to either fill in this field
09:18 nicomo          orelse go to admin > MARC framework > edit the subfield > not mandatory
09:20 CGI605          nicomo: how can I fill this one? there is no value in combo box
09:21 CGI605          I want to only import and save record via z3950
09:21 nicomo          ok, then make the subfield not mandatory
09:22 nicomo          if you want to fill the field and it's a dropbox
09:22 nicomo          in the framework it should be linked to an Authorized Value list
09:23 nicomo          populating the dropbox
09:43 CGI605          nicomo: there is not mandatory selected, still it show problem
09:44 nicomo          sure you're checking the right bibliographic framework? i.e. cataloging with default and looking default framework in admin?
09:47 CGI605          nicomo: Im not getting
09:48 CGI605          Im in Marc Bibliographic framework
09:48 nicomo          you should have at least a Default framework
09:48 nicomo          admin/biblio_framework.pl
09:49 nicomo          then admin/marctagstructure.pl?frameworkcode=
09:49 CGI605          Im not still getting
09:49 nicomo          loook for the field that causes the problem, e.g. 942
09:49 CGI605          plz tell me easy steps as Im new
09:50 nicomo          go to /admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?tagfield=942&frameworkcode=
09:50 nicomo          you should see the subfields for this 942 field
09:56 CGI605          Yeah I m there and there is not mandatory field
09:57 CGI605          error was in 942 in c c
10:07 nicomo          CGI605: no further idea then, i don't know
10:13 CGI605          tag 942 sub field c koha [defualt] item ty in tab tab 9
12:56 chris_n         good morning
12:57 jwagner         Good morning chris_n
13:12 nengard         morning all
13:16 jdavidb         Hi, nengard! :)
13:17 nengard         how goes it?
13:19 jdavidb         so far, so good.  The caffeine hasn't kicked in quite yet, so ask again later.  :/
13:21 nengard         hehe
14:38 CGI113          hi
14:48 * owen          tries to change Ubuntu's system date so he can check some books out yesterday
14:53 Ropuch          date -s?
14:57 owen            Didn't work, not sure why
15:01 owen            Never mind, worked that time.
15:01 Ropuch          sudo date +%Y%m%d -s "20081128"
15:01 Ropuch          ropuch@bagno:~$ date
15:02 Ropuch          pi�, 28 lis 2008, 00:00:02 CET
15:02 Ropuch          But it reminds unchanged in gnome systray clock
15:16 someone         so... ive got an issue while importing a MARC record. the marc record has ~3300 titles, and koha has, as far as i can tell, stopped trying to import at the 25th entry
15:16 someone         it still says "Status staging"
15:16 someone         but inside of "Manage Staged MARC Records › Batch 1 ", it only lists 25 titles
15:17 someone         its been running for uh. 10ish hours?
15:17 owen            It should take a few minutes.
15:17 owen            I would guess that something in that marc file is tripping it up.
15:21 someoneagain    so apparently my laptop doesnt like running on 1% battery for any sustained amount of time
15:22 someoneagain    live and learn
15:22 someoneagain    so yeah, initially all of our book information was just entered into a 5 column excel spreadsheet...
15:24 someoneagain    used MarcEdit to convert that data to MARC. i know nothing about MARC21 format but the creator of MarcEdit was nice enough to supply me with the information that was applicable to our excel spreadsheet layout: Field 0: 035$a = proprietary book number, Field 1: 090$a = LC classification number, Field 2: 260$c = Publication date, Field 3: 100$a; indicators: 10 = Author, Field 4: 245$a; indicators: 10 = Title
15:25 someoneagain    i guess my question is, is there any particular place on the server i should be looking for detailed information on what is stopping the process from importing the data from the 26th record? (if indeed i am correct for assuming the 26th record is in error, seeing as how the site only shows me details of the imported records going to the 25th record)
15:31 nengard         Your error log might have something in it
15:32 nengard         that said, you're probably missing a required field of some sort - but I've never used MarcEdit so I dont know for sure how to help you there
15:32 someoneagain    ive checked /var/log/koha/koha-error_log and koha-opac-error_log but neither seem to have anything regarding the importing of the MARC file
15:33 nengard         this may help: http://koha.org/documentation/tutorial/using-marcedit
15:33 someoneagain    how about this, is it possible to completely cancel the import process and abandon any changes that would otherwise have been imported after the staging
15:33 nengard         I'm not the best person to talk to about server issues - i always have to ask to be reminded how to find the error log :) hehe
15:33 someoneagain    so that i can try it all over again with a smaller MARC file?
15:34 nengard         hmmm - I'm sure you could - but I don't know what command to use
15:34 someoneagain    well at any rate thanks for the link, i will definitely read through it ( i know next to nothing about MARC so this should help)
15:36 owen            Lots of lurkers here, not many helpers.
15:36 owen            nengard: Are you still having trouble with bugzilla today?
15:36 someoneagain    i can identify with that, even irl :)
15:36 nengard         owen - nope
15:36 owen            I don't have any problems accessing it, but it took about 12 hours for my last bugzilla emails to come through
15:37 nengard         owen maybe the server needs a restart :)
15:38 moodaepo        @wunder 56001
15:38 munin           moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -12.2�C (9:33 AM CST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising).
15:50 someoneagain    hrm, well, it has defnintely imported a ton more than 25 records. i just did a mysqldump of koha import_records and its a 3mb text file
16:33 chris_n         @wunder 28334
16:33 munin           chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 5.6�C (11:27 AM EST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising).
16:34 chris_n         wow... heatwave :-)
16:34 owen            Hi chris_n
16:35 chris_n         howdy owen
16:36 schuster        someoneagain - dump is more than just marc.
16:38 schuster        someoneagain - in MarcEdit you might run the MARCVALIDATOR from the menu on top to see if it finds any particular errors.  You might also search for a few titles beyond the 25th one to see if they actually imported.  Usually it shows the first 25 and there are numbers at the bottom of the screen to go to the next batch of 25.
16:39 someoneagain    yeah im thinking something was terribly wrong because i saw screenshots of someone elses koha installation at that particular screen, schuster
16:39 someoneagain    and mine didnt have those numbers to go to different pages
16:39 someoneagain    so i just nuked the old koha database and recreated it in mysql, and rm -rf'd the entire koha installed directory, im rebuilding it now
16:40 someoneagain    im sort of in the dark when it comes to looking at marc files, i dont really know what im supposed to be expecting to see, but ill definitely try that marc validator. im breaking the 3000 line excel spreadsheet into smaller chunks to try doing test imports of smaller amounts at a time
16:42 brendan         owen that last patch for bug 4035 - that working ok for you?
16:42 schuster        How big is your marc file?
16:42 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, ASSIGNED, Today's checkouts grouped with previous checkouts
16:43 someoneagain    it was about 800K
16:44 owen            brendan: I tested that patch on HEAD, and as far as I can tell it fixes the problem.
16:44 brendan         cool great - I'm just getting a chance to look at that.  I think I'll give it a shot :)
16:46 someoneagain    the guy that wrote MarcEdit told me that based on my excel file, this is how i should probably map the fields when using the delimited text translator                      Field 3: 100$a; indicators: 10 = Author  Field 4: 245$a; indicators: 10 = Title
16:46 someoneagain    but to be honest i really didnt follow him on that, as far as the 'indicators 10=' part
16:52 someoneagain    hrm, yeah.. i guess that part is important because marcvalidator is showing errors only on those two particular fields
16:54 owen            nengard: Can I ask if you remember a bug report for a particular problem?
16:55 nengard         you can ask :)
16:56 owen            Here's the bug: Check in an item at Branch A which is on hold for a patron at Branch B. Confirm the transfer.
16:57 owen            Then check it in again: You get two confirmation dialogs: One which says transfer, one which doesn't.
16:57 nengard         yeah - i think i saw that bug - and it ididn't used to do that .. so it's a new one ... let me see what i can find
17:00 nengard         owen - i'm not having much luck ...
17:01 owen            Yeah, me neither. I guess I'll submit a new report and wait for someone to mark it as a duplicate.
17:01 nengard         not seeing it in my emails or in the bugs db
17:02 nengard         maybe you need to report it :)
17:10 owen            Bug 4040
17:10 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Checking in an already confirmed on-hold item results in duplicate dialogs
17:25 collum          owen: are you thinking of bug 3345
17:25 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3345 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Return All items on patron detail does not initiate transfer of holds
17:25 owen            collum: No, that's different
17:25 collum          OK
17:33 * owen          sees bugzilla emails trickling in from hours ago
17:53 someoneagain    anyone ever seen this when running make test?
17:53 someoneagain    t/Dates.t                    (Wstat: 65280 Tests: 135 Failed: 9)   Failed tests:  127-135   Non-zero exit status: 255   Parse errors: Bad plan.  You planned 126 tests but ran 135. Files=21, Tests=198, 11 wallclock secs ( 0.28 usr  0.06 sys +  5.67 cusr  0.84 csys =  6.85 CPU) Result: FAIL Failed 1/21 test programs. 9/198 subtests failed. make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255
18:01 chris_n         atz++ # death to EXPR
18:46 owen            death to EXPR = death to the 126 instances currently found in the templates
18:48 liz-nekls       what, you didn't need more to do?
18:48 chris           owen: dont worry about it
18:49 chris           H::T::P is gone soon anyway
18:49 chris           to be replaced with TT (i have about half the opac done)
18:49 chris           which actually does what EXPR is supposed to do, but properly
18:50 owen            chris: Is there a TT for dummies that would help me understand what we're switching to?
18:51 chris           sure is
18:51 liz-nekls       yes, I am interested in that as well
18:51 chris           the docs are about 10 million times better
18:52 chris           http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Intro.html
18:53 brendan         chris - you still at home or at work yet?
18:53 Ropuch          *bookmarked*
18:53 Ropuch          Hi chris, brendan, owen
18:53 brendan         hi Ropuch
18:55 chris           owen: http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/doc-head-close.inc;h=210d971d186ed23e5bf92d6243d14e615510fb7a;hb=0874d01782b22badd885febdf732409bf178a292
18:55 chris           in the koha context
18:55 chris           brendan: still at home 10 mins til bus
19:04 JeremyLC        Can I check a single item to multiple borrowers simultaneously?
19:05 owen            No
19:05 owen            Why would you want to?
19:05 JeremyLC        because we already do
19:05 JeremyLC        Our patrons get credit for time spent using our materials
19:05 JeremyLC        some things, notably movies (for language learning), can be shared
19:06 owen            Interesting. Does that mean your library software integrates with some kind of credit-tracking software?
19:06 liz-nekls       more to the point... wht is your current library software
19:06 JeremyLC        we're a University language lab, credit doesn't apply
19:07 owen            You just said patrons get credit
19:07 JeremyLC        our current software is an abomination that was grown internally using PHP and apache (I did not write it)
19:08 liz-nekls       Ahhhh
19:08 JeremyLC        right, course credit.  Their profs. say 'spend x hours/week' in the lab', our software tracks what they check out and use, and how long they had it
19:09 JeremyLC        I already know that hourly circulation is not in Koha, but I'm capable of adding that (and, if uni. legal clears it, contributing it back to the project)
19:10 JeremyLC        I've been looking through the documentation regarding circulation to try find the answer to the question I just asked (and got answered, thanks)
19:10 owen            Just my opinion, but it sounds like tracking these hours is something outside the realm of what Koha should be doing.
19:11 JeremyLC        well, for the circulation, I would just change from using date to datetime when recording issues
19:12 JeremyLC        (and figuring due dates/times)
19:12 JeremyLC        I know I'm not the only one who needed to do that, as I have researched it
19:12 JeremyLC        I know the LibLime even implemented such a thing for one of their customers
19:13 JeremyLC        (Our budget isn't really big enough to deal with them)
19:13 owen            Hourly loans are still within the paradigm of "one item one patron"
19:14 JeremyLC        yes
19:14 owen            I'm not sure how you break out of that without breaking a lot of other things
19:14 JeremyLC        I haven't looked at what I would need to do for 'one item many patrons'
19:15 JeremyLC        (re: LibLime, I meant the hourly circulation)
19:15 owen            To me this sounds like a whole new module, separate from regular circulation.
19:17 JeremyLC        yuck
19:17 Ropuch          Hm
19:18 Ropuch          Items can have multiple holds
19:19 Ropuch          But owen is right, it should be (and would be easier to implement) separate from circ
19:21 Ropuch          Bah, now I'm thinking how to do it instead od translating ;-P
19:21 JeremyLC        sorry
19:21 Ropuch          ;>
19:21 JeremyLC        It sounds like I may need to investigate alternatives, then
19:22 owen            JeremyLC: A question to ask yourself is whether Koha offers enough benefits aside from this issue to make it worth using
19:22 someoneagain    when i go to administration, Libraries and Groups , it wont let me delete franklin, midway, pleasant valley or springfield. it says 'library deleted', but they remain on the page
19:23 JeremyLC        I'll have to investigate some more before I can decide that
19:23 JeremyLC        It is very powerful, and would be very nice for us to use
19:24 JeremyLC        however, these two features are vital
19:25 Ropuch          JeremyLC: you can always add some custom buttons to circ templates and call some exterior app, passing some koha-related stuff to it
19:25 JeremyLC        I specifically want to avoid that sort of thing
19:25 Ropuch          :)
19:26 JeremyLC        I'm a technical person in a very non-technical dept
19:26 someoneagain    JeremyLC: when you say LibLime, are you referring to Evergreen?
19:26 owen            LibLime != Evergreen
19:26 owen            LibLime = a Koha support vendor
19:26 someoneagain    Ah
19:26 JeremyLC        (eng. degree working in foreign lang) I want them to be able to operate without me when I eventually move one
19:26 JeremyLC        er, move on
19:27 owen            someoneagain: LibLime offers its customers a proprietary fork of Koha which includes some features (like hourly loans) not in the open source version
19:27 JeremyLC        I want to leave as little in-house software as possible, and good documentation for what is here
19:28 JeremyLC        I would like my successors to be able to do server updates and upgrades without having to wonder what version of which tool I used, an whether newer versions will break something
19:32 someoneagain    thats kinda uh
19:32 someoneagain    odd sounding
19:32 JeremyLC        not if you've had to deal with our existing system
19:32 someoneagain    but since im ignorant to all of this ill just keep silent so that my ignorance shows less :D
19:32 someoneagain    no, not you, i was talking to owen
19:32 Ropuch          sounds reasonable to me
19:32 JeremyLC        there is 0 documentation
19:32 someoneagain    everything you said was pretty much over my head :)
19:33 JeremyLC        no configuration interface either, to do almost any configuring I have to log into phpmyadmin and edit the DB directly
19:55 chris           hourly loans is easy
19:55 chris           multiple borrowers .. not so much
19:55 JeremyLC        I got that impression
19:56 chris           you could ask Liblime to release the code, they do trumpet themselves as teh global leader in open source ... ask them to put their code where their mouth is
19:56 chris           otherwise someone will just have to re do it
19:57 chris           which isnt hard, but a waste of time and effort
19:57 JeremyLC        I could implement hourly loans myself, even using the RFC in the 3.2 docs, but the multiple borrowers issue may be beyond my available time (and talents)
19:58 chris           it's something that will require major changes
19:58 chris           and really is probably outside the scope of koha
19:58 chris           you can use koha as a materials tracking tool ... but bending it that far ..
19:58 chris           you are probably best off using an LDAP backend, sharing data between koha and a materials tracking tool
19:59 chris           (room bookings, etc)
19:59 JeremyLC        we have a campus wide LDAP with all our student info in it (I wrote a MOODLE plugin to use it for auto-enrolments and account creation)
20:01 chris           then what i would look at doing is using a materials tracking tool that can talk LDAP to deal with things like shared movies
20:01 chris           or, like owen said, make a separate module for Koha
20:03 chris           it would bust to much stuff trying to wedge that into regular circulation
20:09 owen            Is the "maxreserves" system preference deprecated?
20:10 chris           i think so
20:10 chris           its replaced with the new smart rules stuff
20:10 owen            In request.pl :  if ( $number_reserves > C4::Context->preference('maxreserves') ) {
20:11 chris           hmmm, you might want to email koha-devel/biblibre ... imho, that should go away for 3.2
20:12 owen            I'm trying to figure out what I can't place holds and that's what I ran across.
20:12 chris           actually 2 secs
20:12 chris           i did a bugfix for that already
20:14 chris           bug3785
20:14 chris           http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3785
20:14 munin           04Bug 3785: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, ASSIGNED, New Install, no maxreserves setting, OPAC holds fail
20:15 owen            So a similar change needs to be made to request.pl?
20:15 chris           *nod*
20:16 chris           something like this
20:16 someoneagain    has this bug reopened?
20:16 someoneagain    http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2009-June/018995.html
20:16 chris           if ( C4::Context->preference('maxreserves') && $number_reserves > C4::Context->preference('maxreserves') ) {
20:16 chris           can you try that own
20:16 chris           owen too
20:16 someoneagain    when i try to place a hold i get the same error that guy got,
20:16 someoneagain    brb
20:17 chris           what version of koha someoneagain
20:24 owen            So chris it looks like there is no check of the holds allowed count as set by smart-rules.pl
20:25 owen            All we've got is maxreserves, and that's now "if you've got maxreserves set"
20:26 chris           yeah there is in the opac
20:26 chris           hmm or not
20:26 chris           yeah, i think we need to ask biblibre .. it might be there are some patches waiting to be pushed
20:27 * owen          's head hurts from all the patches waiting to be pushed
20:27 chris           yeah, i wonder if i can un nominate myself for 3.4 hehe
20:28 owen            No!!!
20:28 owen            Not unless you want me to grab your ankle and not let go
20:28 chris           hehe
20:29 jwagner         And for the rest of us to grab you as well.....
20:29 chris           was worth a shot :)
20:33 someoneagain    chris: 3.00.02.012
20:34 chris           ahh thats a pretty old version
20:34 someoneagain    doh.... i just downloaded it and installed today
20:34 someoneagain    should i have grabbed 3.2?
20:34 chris           where did you get it from?
20:34 someoneagain    the main site
20:34 chris           damnit
20:34 chris           now i have to fight the urge to rant about liblime again
20:34 someoneagain    sec let me make sure, i might be trippin
20:34 chris           urge suppressed
20:35 chris_n         hehe
20:35 chris           http://download.koha.org/
20:35 chris           you want http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.05.tar.gz
20:35 chris           thats the latest stable release
20:35 someoneagain    http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.02.tar.gz
20:35 someoneagain    is the link i used on their site
20:35 chris           dont ask why that isnt linked from the main site
20:35 chris           yeah, its wrong, out of date by months and ....
20:36 * chris         stops himself
20:36 chris           short version is, 3.00.05 is the version you want
20:36 someoneagain    hmmmm... can i do an in place upgrade or do i have to redo everything? like delete and recreate the mysql db, etc?
20:36 chris           you can do an upgrade
20:36 chris           download the new version
20:36 someoneagain    k :| im skird but ill try
20:36 chris           unpack it
20:36 chris           perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log
20:37 chris           (the previous install log will be in your 3.00.02 unpacked dir)
20:37 * chris_n       accidentally updates the perl on his production server
20:38 chris_n         and now has to rebuild most of the koha deps
20:38 chris_n         >:-(
20:38 chris           someoneagain: probably in the misc dir
20:39 chris           and then after that, make, make test, make install
20:39 someoneagain    oh wow, 91meg
20:39 chris           yeah lot more languages translated
20:39 someoneagain    so this might also explain why make test was failing
20:39 someoneagain    (oldversion)
20:39 chris           *nod*
20:40 chris           chris_n: :(
20:41 chris_n         yeah, it appears that a portion of the perl modules are installed in /usr/local/share/perl/version_number/module
20:42 chris           that'd be the cpan'd ones
20:42 * chris_n       figures there is some obscure reason for not installing them all in the same place
20:42 chris           thats why .debs win
20:42 chris           cos when you upgrade perl it upgrades all the perl related .debs too
20:42 chris_n         sometimes the .debs are not the latest
20:42 chris_n         ahh
21:02 chris_n         bbl
21:04 owen            bye all
21:07 someoneagain    hello there richard
21:07 someoneagain    im someone
21:07 someoneagain    again
21:07 * someoneagain  beams
21:33 JeremyLC        My boss suggested an interesting solution to me.  We could suffix a patron number to our barcodes
21:34 JeremyLC        So if abcd123 is the code for "Blue Angel", then abcd123-patron2 could be for the second person to simultaneously check out
21:35 chris           so have multiple items ?
21:35 JeremyLC        yes
21:35 chris           its hacky, but it'd work :)
21:35 JeremyLC        it gets a bit complex, though, when you consider that we sometimes have multiple physical copies of the same item
21:40 JeremyLC        it would save a lot of coding, though.
21:59 someoneagain    gah, the update installer seems to have used a variable quite literally
21:59 someoneagain    Installing /data/koha-3.00.05/__INSTALL_BASE__/man/man3/misc::translator::tmpl_process3.3pm
22:00 chris           hlj
22:00 chris           whoops
22:01 chris           it might have been the wrong install-log .. you might need to see if there is another one
22:01 chris           (no harm no foul, you can just get rid of /data/koha-3.00.05/__INSTALL_BASE__/ )
22:02 chris_n2        arghhh
22:02 chris           still stuck in perl upgrade?
22:02 chris_n2        so it appears that my @INC has been screwed up
22:03 chris_n2        perl did not upgrade afaict
22:03 chris           ahh
22:03 chris_n2        but @INC has pathing in it to 5.10.1
22:03 chris_n2        and some pathing from my dev box as well
22:03 * chris_n2      scratches his head
22:03 chris_n2        so who is responsible for setting the default @INC?
22:04 chris           pass
22:04 * chris_n2      winces
22:05 chris           its not a .bashrc or .bash_profile or something else setting it for you?
22:08 someoneagain    oh snap
22:08 someoneagain    you're right chris
22:08 someoneagain    gah now ive got to build this all over again lol. poor pseudoserver is getting overworked
22:09 chris           heh
22:09 schuster        by all...  Hopefully tonight I can finish setting up my testing box for 3.2!!!  You might hear from me later!
22:10 someoneagain    do i need to make clean before reruning make?
22:10 chris           good luck schuster
22:11 chris           someoneagain: hmm might be safest
22:11 someoneagain    k
22:30 chris_n2        stupid chatzilla
22:54 chris_n2        so much for helpful hints from the folks at #perl and #perl-help
22:56 someoneagain    try undernet
22:57 someoneagain    and cross your fingers you find the server with the most users still on it after the netsplits
23:25 moodaepo        @wunder 56001
23:25 munin           moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -8.3�C (5:18 PM CST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising).
23:43 chris_n2        @wunder 28334
23:43 munin           chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 0.9�C (6:37 PM EST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising).
23:44 someoneagain    how can i pull up a full list of all users and delete the default ones that came with the program?
23:44 someoneagain    er, patrons rather
23:48 chris_n2        heya pianohackr|work
23:48 pianohackr|work hi, chris_n2
23:48 pianohackr|work someoneagain: In the patrons section, you can step through them by the first letter of their last name
23:48 pianohackr|work labor intensive, but it works
23:49 someoneagain    k
23:49 someoneagain    thanks
23:49 someoneagain    when i do a search im getting this error. ideas?
23:49 chris_n2        someoneagain: unless you opted to load the sample borrower data, there should be no patrons by default
23:49 someoneagain    hmm. doh. thats probably what i did. i just selected a bunch of the samples without really knowing what they were.
23:50 someoneagain    [Tue Jan 12 11:51:27 2010] [error] [client 10.0.2.154] [Tue Jan 12 11:51:27 2010] opac-search.pl: "my" variable $content_type masks earlier declaration in same scope at /data/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 586., referer: http://library/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=white
23:51 chris_n2        someoneagain: you can open a mysql prompt and drop and recreate the database; then run the webinstaller again
23:51 chris_n2        that will probably be faster
23:52 someoneagain    chris_n2: you are referring to removing the users, and not referring to the error above, right?
23:52 chris_n2        correct
23:53 someoneagain    k ill probably do that... and while im at it i wont add thet default librarys either because i cant delete them :|
23:54 chris_n2        what version are you using
23:55 someoneagain    latest... just reinstalled... uh it ends in 05
23:55 someoneagain    not 02
23:56 someoneagain    hmm i dont know what to do christ
23:56 someoneagain    err chris :\
23:56 someoneagain    zebra just got done indexing 3300 titles i imported
23:56 chris_n2        so 3.0.5
23:57 someoneagain    so if i drop the db and make it anew, ill have to import again... will i have to clear the zebra index's also?
23:57 chris_n2        yeah, if you drop the db, you will have to reindex zebra
23:57 someoneagain    i know _nothing_ about zebra. its like voodoo or something
23:57 someoneagain    ugh
23:57 chris_n2        just rebuild_zebra.pl -r -v -a -b
23:58 someoneagain    thanks
23:58 chris_n2        look in the misc/migration_tools subdir
23:59 chris_n2        but you'll have to re-import your records into the new db