Time Nick Message 00:03 Nate goodnight #koha 03:39 Amit heya chris, chris_n2, brendan 03:39 chris_n2 ehlo Amit 04:19 chobbs Anyone awake? 04:20 chris_n2 nobody but us chickens 04:21 chobbs Considering moving our K12 district off our commercial library system to Koha. Looking for war stories, insights, etc from those that have done it before. 04:25 chobbs Hmmm. Is there a better time for me to chat with other users? 04:29 chris_n2 chobbs: where are you located? 04:30 chobbs California - obviously too late for most US folks :) 04:31 chris_n2 chobbs: there are quite a few around who have migrated off of proprietary ILSs onto Koha 04:31 chris_n2 I'm sure they would be glad to tell you how it went 04:31 chobbs It's been about 7 years since I last looked at Koha - looks like it's matured a lot. 04:31 chris_n2 you could post to the mailing list as well 04:31 chris_n2 yeah, we're gearing up for the 3.2 release 04:31 chobbs I'll try checking in during the regular (US) work day 04:32 chris_n2 there are some major improvements in it 04:32 chobbs You're one of the devs? 04:32 chris_n2 yup 04:32 chobbs Cool. 04:33 chobbs Downloaded Kyle Hall's vm and messing around with it a bit now. 04:34 chris_n2 chobbs: take a look through these list search results: http://old.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?forum=14380&local=y&query=migrate+koha 04:34 chris_n2 I think there may be a few stories there 04:34 chobbs Great, thanks. 04:34 chris_n2 a vm install is probably the quickest/easiest way to check things out 04:34 chobbs Looks like that'll keep me busy reading for a bit. 04:35 chris_n2 feel free to drop in any time here as well 04:36 chris_n2 there are more US folks on earlier in our day 04:44 * chris_n2 heads off to sleep 04:44 chobbs thanks for the tips - later 06:50 Ropuch Morning #koha 09:34 chipsy hi uys 09:37 chipsy how long will it take cpan to install Net::Server cos mine ran for 24hrs but still at make test 09:39 chilts should be faster than 24hrs 09:39 chilts probably about 23hrs 58mins faster 09:39 chilts try it again :) 09:42 chipsy is this a joke? 09:45 chris 22:45 ~ $ time sudo cpan Net::Server 09:45 chris real 0m23.097s 09:45 chris user 0m8.149s 09:45 chris sys 0m0.992s 09:45 chris thats how long it took 09:45 chris under 30 seconds 09:46 chris RHANDOM/Net-Server-0.97.tar.gz 09:46 chris /usr/bin/make install -j3 -- OK 09:46 chris so if its taking more than a few minutes something is definetly wrong 10:01 magnus <- the nick formerly known as magnusenger 10:15 kf hi #koha 10:16 imp heyho kf 10:16 kf hi imp 10:42 Ropuch Hello kf, imp 10:42 imp hi Ropuch 10:43 imp @wunder hannover germany 10:43 munin imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is -6.0�C (11:20 AM CET on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 10:44 kf @wunder Konstanz 10:44 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.2�C (11:40 AM CET on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). 10:50 kf oh, and hi Ropuch! 10:51 nicomo hi all hi kf 10:51 nicomo @wunder lyon france 10:51 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is -0.4�C (11:00 AM CET on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1003.6 hPa (Steady). 10:51 nicomo and snowing 10:51 nicomo :-( 10:51 kf but warmer than in hannover and Konstanz ;) 10:52 kf hi nicomo 10:52 nicomo yes, warmer, but I'll still stay home :-) 10:58 imp hehe 11:02 greenmang0 @wunder mumbai 11:02 munin greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (4:10 PM IST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 11:02 imp Conditions: Smoke oO 11:02 greenmang0 imp: yeah ;) 11:03 imp smoke, like smog? 11:27 magnus @wunder bodo, norway 11:27 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (11:50 AM CET on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Snow Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 11:28 chipsy hi u said make install -j3 --OK 11:28 chipsy but it still got hook at make test 11:29 chipsy cos cpan try to install 11:37 Amit heya chipsy, kf, nicomo 11:39 kf hi Amit 11:45 Amit @wunder Bangalore India 11:45 munin Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 26.0�C (2:30 PM IST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. 11:53 greenmang0 imp: dont' really know :) 12:28 davi Who proposed to use a Sun Java videoconference applet for the next Koha meeting? 12:28 davi It is a bad idea. 12:29 davi Which one was proposed? Is there some URL? 12:54 chris_n g'morning #koha 12:54 chris_n @wunder 28334 12:54 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 3.4�C (7:50 AM EST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Steady). 12:54 chris_n heat wave :-) 12:55 kf hi chris_n 12:55 kf @wunder Konstanz 12:55 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.2�C (1:50 PM CET on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Steady). 12:55 jwagner @wunder 20740 12:55 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is -3.3�C (7:53 AM EST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Rising). 12:55 chris_n howdy kf and jwagner 12:55 jwagner g'morning 12:56 chris_n jwagner: did you all get that label search problem figured out? 12:56 jwagner Haven't had a chance to try yet -- it's a little ways down the priority queue. 12:56 jwagner I'll let you know what happens. 12:56 chris_n great; yeah, I know about the priority queue :-P 12:57 chris_n just let me know if there's anything else I can throw a pair of eyes on for you 12:57 jwagner quote "I want it all and I want it NOW" -- sound familiar? 12:58 chris_n yup 12:58 chris_n or even "I want it yesterday" 12:58 jwagner Yep. Got some of them on the list too 12:58 chris_n g'morning jdavidb 12:58 jdavidb Happy Friday! woot! 12:59 kf morning jdavidb and jwagner 12:59 jwagner Guten tag kf 13:06 nengard jdavidb - holy cow!!! I had no idea it was Friday!! 13:06 nengard how sad is that!?? 13:06 nengard morning all! 13:07 * jdavidb hands nengard a big mug of hot cocoa. 13:08 jdavidb I had that problem when I worked at home. 'specially since I tend to work at least a little bit seven days a week. Here, at least, there are the days I work where I don't go to the office, and the days I do. 13:12 nengard yeah - that's pretty much it - I'm always working :) but I should still know it's Friday which means I get my hubby at home for 2 whole days :) heeh 13:18 nengard seems that a lot of people are using MarcEdit with Koha - it's a shame it's not open source cause then maybe we could write some connectors or something to make it a little bit easier 13:21 Nate Hello Everyone! 13:22 * chris_n seems to recall schuster suggesting that some sort of z3950 connection could be had between Koha and MarcEdit 13:22 chris_n hi Nate 13:22 Nate hi chris_n 13:23 chris_n nicole: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Cataloging-workflow-p27064660.html 13:29 nengard chris_n - ooo - I need to pick his brain and get some documentation on that for others 13:29 nengard hi Nate 13:30 Nate hi nengard! 13:30 chris_n speaking of schuster :-) 13:30 nengard schuster did you know we were talking about you??? 13:30 nengard hehe 13:30 chris_n hi david 13:31 nengard let's catch schuster up 13:31 nengard [08:18] <nengard> seems that a lot of people are using MarcEdit with Koha - it's a shame it's not open source cause then maybe we could write some connectors or something to make it a little bit easier 13:31 nengard [08:23] <chris_n> nicole: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Cataloging-workflow-p27064660.html 13:31 nengard [08:29] <nengard> chris_n - ooo - I need to pick his brain and get some documentation on that for others 13:31 nengard So - schuster - got any documentation you can share??? 13:31 jdavidb poor schuster. Walks in the door, and gets waylaid. 13:32 jwagner give him time to get some caffiene, why don'tcha??? 13:34 schuster Hey... 13:35 schuster Let me check on a couple of things... My presentation last year had some documentation with it.. take a look at this for starters 13:35 schuster http://wiki.koha.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=marceditschuster.pdf 13:37 nengard thanks 13:37 nengard jwagner - no caffine :) if you logged in without it then be ready to be nagged by the documentation manager :) hehe 13:38 schuster hmmm that's not opening for me this morning or it's really big. Let me dig some more and I'll send you some stuff. I need to do some further testing with it on the upload aspect does it really index etc... 13:38 nengard schuster it opened for me and it's great 13:38 jwagner nengard, you're such a bully :-( 13:39 nengard aww :( 13:39 jwagner it locked up for me. 13:39 schuster I was able to pull stuff out of my database at the conference and show how it worked a little. Terry has a new version out this month and it is supposed to be more linyx friendly. 13:39 nengard schuster I think you were speaking at the same time as me so I missed your talk 13:39 schuster Ah that would probably be accurate as you were a very busy person! 13:40 schuster nengard - are you going to be at ALA? 13:40 nengard ALA yes - ALA midwinter no 13:41 nengard I'm speaking at ALA, PLA and SLA this year 13:41 nengard hitting all of the biggies ;) 13:43 chris_n schuster: did you get your PDF::API2 problem worked out? 13:43 schuster No I went to bed after posting my plea. - and as you can see I just got to the office and barely finished a quarter of my first cup of coffee... 13:44 schuster I was just going to say nengard realized it's Friday and how much she wanted to accomplish this week ;) 13:44 schuster I'm that way myself I have several todos that need to get DONE today. 13:44 * chris_n is not one to come between a person and his/her coffee :-) 13:44 nengard :) 13:45 nengard as someone who doesn't do coffee - I don't get the importance :) 13:46 schuster @wunder 75074 13:46 chris_n s/coffee/whatever-gets-you-going-first-thing-in-the-morning/g 13:46 munin schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is -9.3�C (7:29 AM CST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 10 am CST this morning... 13:46 nengard chris_n -- waking up gets me going ... that's it :) 13:46 chris_n lol 13:46 schuster we texas folk are COLD... i know it might not mean much to you all, but man I've been out of Minnesota for awhile! 13:46 nengard hehe 13:47 nengard they say that the artic chill should be out of your area next week and in ours 13:47 nengard so hang in there, it's almost over 13:48 nengard well - going to grab some breakfast - be right back 13:51 jwagner Got a bibloading puzzler for you. One of my sites says that occasionally a MARC import (file downloaded from OCLC Connexion) strips off the 6xx fields. So far I don't have an actual data file from one of those uploads, just a file of records reassembled after the fact. It loads fine & all the 6xx fields are there. 13:52 jwagner I can't think of any circumstance in which Koha would strip 6xx fields from an import. Has anyone else ever seen it? 13:53 schuster chris_n - when I do the make clean in that directory I got a make *** No rule to make target 'clean'. Stop. 13:54 jdavidb @wunder 20852 13:54 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is -2.7�C (8:43 AM EST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Falling). 13:54 chris_n schuster: np, go ahead and do 'perl Makefile.PL' 13:55 chris_n then 'make' 13:55 chris_n and 'make test' 13:55 schuster jwagner - is that site stripping based on indicator so that they don't get any non LC type headings? 13:56 jwagner Not that I know of -- nothing on the Koha end, anyway. They're using a combined match rule I set up but otherwise it's pretty vanilla. 13:56 schuster Thanks chris_n that worked now on to try and fix the otherone the same way.. 13:56 chris_n schuster: don't forget to 'make install'... :) 14:00 schuster OK so the XML::LibXSLT 1.59 error with the same type of output what file name would I be looking for to attempt the same thing? 14:01 chris_n check /root/.cpan/build for a subdir with XML-LibXSLT in the name 14:02 chris_n cd into that one and do 'perl Makefile.PL' et al 14:08 brendan morning all 14:08 chris_n heya brendan 14:08 brendan look's like I've got a little bit of "scroll-back" to go through this morning. :) 14:11 schuster ok so the well phoey - I'm getting cant find -lgdbm and can't put that computer on the network so will have to wait until I get home over the weekend to attempt to fix that piece. 14:13 schuster Looking back over my notes it says to do the /kohaclone/misc/sax_parser_print.pl and you should see XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x81fe220) 14:13 chris_n schuster: be sure to install the dev libraries for libgdbm 14:14 schuster if you don't it says looks bad check Install documentation - well I end up with XML::SAX::Expat=HASH(0xa0b1588) 14:14 chris_n libgdbm-dev 14:14 schuster that is just a sudo apt-get libgdbm-dev correct? 14:14 chris_n right 14:15 schuster This sax parser thing always gets me in trouble... 14:15 chris_n the other is the default parser "problem" 14:16 schuster so if I get the XML-LibXSLT piece fixed are you saying it will fix the sax parser error? 14:16 chris_n not necessarily 14:17 chris_n there is an ini file somewhere that sets that up iirc 14:19 chris_n schuster: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=encodingscratchpad#sax_parser 14:19 schuster Ah yes found the ini file so I just comment out the lines I don't want? 14:19 schuster YEAH that fixed that!!! 14:20 pastebot "chris_n" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "ParserDetails.ini" (7 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/105 14:20 chris_n schuster: ^^ 14:20 chris_n there's mine 14:20 chris_n fwiw 14:21 schuster Ok now I have a couple of other questions for the group... How can you tell if Pazpar is setup on an existing system? 14:21 * chris_n is in the dark on that one 14:23 schuster I also like the idea of the Memoize - but it requires a ??? server??? is there information someplace about that in setting one up or??? What are others doing about it? 14:27 schuster OK hopefully getting that libgdm-dev installed this weekend will fix my problem. Thanks again chris_n... I owe you... 14:28 chris_n schuster: Memoize can be run on the same server as Koha afaik 14:29 chris_n that is chris c's baby 14:29 chris_n so you might question him about getting it set up 14:29 schuster yeah I've seen that in the IRC hmmm... have to chat with him later about it. 14:29 chris_n it sounds very cool, though and will allow some neat things to be done which cannot atm 14:30 schuster yeah that's what has me wondering about a couple of things based on what I have read so far. 16:23 * chris_n makes the final large push of patron card creator code to his public repo 16:24 nengard chris_n woo hoo 16:25 chris_n and invites all comers to test it :-) 16:26 brendan @wunder 93117 16:26 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 10.3�C (8:21 AM PST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Rising). 16:26 brendan chris_n - do you have that available to look at yet? 16:28 chris_n not on a publicly available test server; only in my github repo 16:28 chris_n git://github.com/cnighswonger/koha-wip.git 16:28 brendan ah ok thanks :) 16:29 nengard chris_n - now we just need some docs :) 16:29 chris_n still one or two cosmetic things to be done, but it is pretty much as it will be 16:30 chris_n except for the docs, that is ;-) 16:30 chris_n nengard: I have to figure out how it works first :-D 16:30 nengard oh don't tell us that 16:30 nengard you wrote something and don't know how it works?? :) 16:31 brendan heh 16:31 * chris_n feels like he just finished up a text only version of gimp :-P 16:39 Ropuch libasciiart gimp 16:39 Ropuch Reminds me watching movie on mplayer with -vo ascii ;> 16:39 brendan should call it timp 16:41 imp how about libcaca? (cac.zoy.org, but it seams to be down right now :/) 16:41 Ropuch ;> 16:41 imp sorry, caca.zoy.org 16:41 Ropuch I've never played with libcaca 16:42 imp same here, but it's on my todolist :) 16:42 Ropuch Just aalib - been there, done that, got a tshirt 16:43 Ropuch http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=74 16:43 Ropuch Seems pretty easy 16:44 imp aalib on the first half of the page and libcaca on the rest :D 16:49 chris_n wow, just what I wanted to do with my spare time ;-) 16:51 Ropuch hehe 17:22 chris_n lunchtime 19:41 brendan @wunder 93117 19:41 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.9�C (11:37 AM PST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling). 19:44 chris_n brendan: one other note; if you decide to test the card creator you'll need to grab a modified copy of PDF::Reuse from here: git://github.com/cnighswonger/PDF-Reuse-0.35.git 19:45 chris_n the maintainer has accepted the changes, but has yet to role a new release 19:45 brendan ok - thanks 19:45 brendan @seen paul_p 19:45 munin brendan: paul_p was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 58 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: * paul_p head to train station. See you next monday ! 19:45 brendan @later tell paul_p Happy Birthday on Jan 9! Enjoy 19:45 munin brendan: The operation succeeded. 20:03 chris_n @wunder 28334 20:03 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.3�C (2:58 PM EST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Rising). 21:14 schuster brendan here? 21:14 brendan I am 21:14 brendan hi schuster 21:14 schuster Just tied calling you. 21:14 schuster tried. 21:14 brendan ok I'll try and give you a call 22:13 brendan @wunder 93117 22:13 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.5�C (2:07 PM PST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady). 22:13 moodaepo @wunder 56001 22:13 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -19.1�C (4:08 PM CST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -22.0�C. Windchill: -27.0�C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033.1 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until midnight CST tonight... 22:13 brendan ok chris - my highwater mark for today is 19.5 - let's see if you can beat that 22:13 brendan oh wow moodaepo 22:13 brendan delete the minus sign and you'd be here 22:14 moodaepo : ) Yea I'm just a watcher ok Koha but for my weather announcements! 22:14 brendan excellent 22:14 moodaepo brendan: Yea that's why I seem to be attracted to looking at the weather here every time you do. 22:14 brendan heh 22:16 schuster @wunder 75074 22:16 munin schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is -1.9�C (3:59 PM CST on January 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Falling). 22:17 schuster as I get ready to wonder outside to go home for the weekend! I see in Minnesota they don't even calculate Windchill anymore! HA! 22:19 schuster by everyone