Time  Nick        Message
23:19 * chris_n2  throws more wood on the fire
23:19 munin       chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.8�C (6:17 PM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Steady).
23:19 chris_n2    @wunder Dunn, NC
23:08 chris       :)
23:07 brendan     could get a better day
23:06 brendan     it's amazing outside right now
23:06 chris       cloudy here today, and its gonna rain soon
23:06 brendan     close
23:06 munin       chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 07, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
23:06 chris       @wunder wellington, nz
23:06 brendan     chris - can you beat me
23:06 chris       bet thats warmer than here today
23:06 brendan     oh not bad!
23:05 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.2�C (3:03 PM PST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady).
23:05 brendan     @wunder 93117
23:05 brendan     all right you on
23:04 rhcl        National Weather Service: THE DEADLY COMBINATION OF BELOW ZERO TEMPERATURES AND BLUSTERY NORTHWEST WINDS WILL YIELD WIND CHILL VALUES OF 25 TO 35 BELOW ZERO OVER MUCH OF THE THURSDAY NIGHT-SATURDAY MORNING PERIOD.
23:02 munin       rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -7.7�C (5:00 PM CST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1027.7 hPa (Rising).  Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 PM CST Thursday... 
23:02 rhcl        @wunder 64505
22:43 chris       https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1001&L=CODE4LIB&T=0&O=D&P=46873
22:27 chris       hmm
22:16 chris       thats below freezing eh?
22:16 schuster    by all have to go home and stoke the fire supposed to be a high of 30 tomorrow.
22:12 chris       heh
22:09 Ropuch      ;>
22:06 schuster    I was in meetings ;)
22:03 liz-nekls   wow seriously this is the quietest afternoon evar
21:37 * chris_n   has had all the fun he can for one day and so heads home
20:30 nengard     but I'm the TV junky in the house - he's more about the computer
20:30 nengard     I guess not
20:30 nengard     LOL
20:29 owen        Never come between a man and his HDTV
20:29 nengard     owen that was all my hubby - he was mean mean mean - I've never seen him so tough :) hehe and in the end we won
20:20 owen        You know the one.
20:20 owen        Sorry, The Man.
20:20 owen        Congratulations for taking on The Main and winning
20:19 nengard     if you followed my tweets you know it was a struggle!
20:19 nengard     directtv guy just left - we now officially have HDTV :)
20:11 collum      The next week I was a cashier.  Seesh!
20:11 collum      I was washing dishes at a hospital when I was 15.  Found a dollar on the ground and turned it in to the boss.
20:11 * chris_n   looks to be sure he is on the right side of the circ desk
20:10 owen        Complete with the sob stories
20:10 brendan     I think circ is like bartending
20:10 nengard     well circ is a lot like retail
20:10 brendan     oh yeah retail is horrible
20:10 nengard     speaking at people is diff than speaking to people
20:10 chris       "just buy it already, sheesh"
20:10 nengard     I do well in training and with colleagues - but when i was in retail I was no good
20:10 owen        You can tell--she avoids speaking in public at all costs
20:09 chris       hehe
20:09 nengard     LOL
20:09 brendan     that's good to know nengard
20:07 nengard     I don't do that well - dealing with the public
20:07 nengard     too much dealing with people
20:07 collum      I'm just glad I'm not in circulation.  It's too complicated.
20:06 nengard     oh boy
20:05 chris       heh
20:05 owen        If they hand it over and it's taped together with clear tape that constitutes criminal neglect.
20:04 collum      :)
20:04 owen        :)
20:04 chris       we charge $2 if they swear at the card, if they punch it is $9
20:04 owen        I see. We charge no matter what.
20:04 collum      Not unless we determine that there is abuse.
20:03 owen        Do you charge for replacement?
20:03 collum      5 card replacements in 10 years is not abuse.
20:03 collum      5 card replacements in a month is abuse.
20:02 owen        "abuse?"
20:02 collum      It would also be nice to have the date of the replacement.  We measure abuse by the number of cards that are replaced in a year.
20:01 owen        Interesting! Sounds like a great use of patron attributes
20:00 sekjal      owen: we did have multiple barcodes for patrons coming over from our previous ILS.  We kept the "most current", which was the highest number value, and stashed the others in a Patron Attribute 'History'
19:54 brendan     owen you may want to ask him what he ended up doing
19:54 brendan     I think if I remember correctly - his migration from "whatever" had that issue as well
19:53 brendan     I saw sekjal do something with that too
19:52 chris       HLT use the notes field for that
19:52 owen        I wonder if there could be a way for Koha to track a patron's card numbers in the case where they get a replacement card and change numbers?
19:51 chris       yep
19:48 owen        Hm, I guess that must be the case: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1diag.html
19:47 owen        What does it mean when you get a "permanent system error" message back from a z39.50 search? Is that a z39.50 message coming from the search target?
19:41 Ropuch      :)
19:39 chris_n     another minor disaster cleverly averted ;-)
19:38 nengard     patch submitted with help file updates
19:38 nengard     woo hoo - that worked :)
19:37 nengard     thanks chris_n I'll try that
19:36 chris_n     nengard: I *think* you want 'git checkout /path/to/file' where the file is the one you want to roll back to the current HEAD...
19:31 nengard     i think chris told me how to do this once - and I didn't write it down
19:31 richard     hi
19:30 nengard     and then do my patch
19:29 nengard     so I want to pull the files as they are not in the repo
19:29 nengard     hi all - i need a git tip - how do I pull just one file from the git repo?  For some reason my install says I have edited a few files that I didn't :) or don't remember editing - and I don't want them to end up in my commit
19:15 munin       chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 6.2�C (2:13 PM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Steady).
19:15 chris_n     @wunder 28334
19:00 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.8�C (10:57 AM PST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising).
19:00 brendan     @wunder 93117
18:34 chris_n     bbiab
18:21 chris       wow John_Brice_MPL ... long time no see
18:20 chipsy      guys i still get this error when i try to start pazpar:  pazpar2 -f pazpar2.cfg 23:12:44-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] Error: ICU support requested with element: <relevance>  ...  </relevance> 23:12:44-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library.
17:58 chipsy      how
17:57 hdl_laptop  disable relevancy
17:54 chipsy      hdl_laptop i install yaz-icu but i still get thesame error
17:32 chipsy      i couldn't add the repository
17:31 hdl_laptop  yaz-icu
17:30 chipsy      hdl_laptop i install yaz-3.0.52
17:14 hdl_laptop  add that
17:13 chipsy      hdl_laptop i dont have indexdata as repo
17:12 dreece      i just got rid of the crontab.
17:12 dreece      hdl_laptop: doing that now.
17:11 hdl_laptop  Also, using -x -nosanitize with biblios is increasing performances.
17:11 * nengard   doesn't know if she likes this new 'off' trick - i say make it all public - even the bad stuff :)
17:10 hdl_laptop  or you may have a problem.
17:10 hdl_laptop  dreece: you should stop all.
17:10 hdl_laptop  chris_n.... don't know
17:09 chris_n     or have I missed them?
17:09 chris_n     hdl_laptop: no minutes from those 08 meetings?
17:09 dreece      something is not right.
17:09 dreece      I now have 8 threads of rebuild_zebra.pl running.
17:08 chris_n     [off] owen: lol :-)
17:08 chris_n     everyone was too busy I guess
17:08 hdl_laptop  we had some in 08
17:08 owen        [off] chris_n: that must have been when LibLime was doing 100% of all Koha development ;)
17:08 hdl_laptop  mmm... No
17:08 hdl_laptop  chris_n unfortunately true
17:07 wizzyrea    :)
17:07 wizzyrea    it could be raining
17:07 wizzyrea    ah, it could be worse
17:07 hdl_laptop  set the cookie for search expires in 10 minutes
17:07 wizzyrea    with flashlights pointed at faces and oooooohs and aaaaaaahs
17:07 nengard     oh my :(
17:07 wizzyrea    will make a good halloween systemadmin story
17:07 hdl_laptop  expires=>"10m"
17:07 wizzyrea    loooong story. :) will tell you later when I have more time
17:07 hdl_laptop  owen : line 486 in opac-search.pl :
17:06 nengard     what happened
17:06 nengard     and I'm sorry you have to rebuild :(
17:06 nengard     wonderful!
17:06 nengard     ah
17:06 wizzyrea    yesm
17:06 wizzyrea    so no, you should be fine linking to it
17:06 nengard     wizzyrea - will the links remain the same as they were before?
17:06 wizzyrea    nengard re:website We are in the process of rebuilding it
17:00 chris_n     is this true, or have some notes been inadvertently omitted from the wiki?
17:00 chris_n     wow, no developer/general meetings for koha from 31 Aug 07 to 6 May 09
16:58 hdl_laptop  chipsy: Check if you have Indexdata repositories as sources. You should have them in order to install pazpar2 so I guess you have them installed.
16:55 chipsy      hdl_laptop i got this error Following packages haven't been found on the medium:  yaz-icu
16:43 chipsy      thanks
16:43 hdl_laptop  no, aptitude
16:43 hdl_laptop  chipsy: no aptitude
16:42 chipsy      i mean i should install yaz-icu using cpan
16:41 chipsy      uusind cpan?
16:40 hdl_laptop  chipsy: install yaz-icu
16:39 chipsy      But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library.
16:38 chipsy      can anyone help out with this pazpar error
16:37 dreece      This stinks. haha
16:37 dreece      Bah
16:37 owen        That definitely seems too long, although I'm not a Zebra expert.
16:37 dreece      Now it's still running... been three hours since reboot.
16:37 dreece      I left it go overnight, had to reboot the server because the Swp had maxed out and was going so slowly.
16:36 owen        How long?
16:36 dreece      indeed. haha
16:36 owen        dreece: Do you ask because it has run for a long time and you're wondering when it will stop? :)
16:35 dreece      I know this is a stupid, loaded question, but how long does it usually take for rebuild_zebra.pl to run.. say with... 25,000 new entries?
16:32 chipsy      guys i'm having this error when trying to start pazpar :- 21:26:16-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] Error: ICU support requested with element: <relevance>  ...  </relevance> 21:26:16-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library.
16:25 schuster    OK - I copied the code and dropped it in and nothing happens on my test environment so that was why I was asking.
16:25 owen        That post was more proof-of-concept than do-it-yourself in nature.
16:23 owen        That targets *every* <td> anywhere. Not what you want to do.
16:23 owen        $("td").click(function(event){
16:23 owen        (Now that I look at it again after 6mo.)
16:22 owen        It's too generic
16:22 owen        You definitely don't want to just copy and paste the code in the blog post.
16:20 owen        Have you tried it without success? It's been a while since I wrote that so I don't recall
16:19 schuster    Yes that one - can I just take the script that is there and put it into the staff javascript area in the system preferences or do I have to do something special to get it to show up?
16:18 owen        http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=298 ?
16:18 schuster    dealing with the edit/delete script for edit items -
16:18 owen        Which post?
16:17 schuster    owen - question about a blog post - http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?cat=6
16:16 * chris_n   goes so far as to neglect the telephone on occasion :-)
16:16 thd         chris_n: I am almost always available by telephone which may be helpful if I am not attending to something.
16:15 thd         chris_n: When I am busy, I can also neglect my email altogether and I tend not use it as a substitute for the telephone like many people do now.
16:14 thd         chris_n: When I am busy it can take me a very long time to pay attention to my mailing list mailboxes
16:13 thd         chris_n: I actually use a separate address for each mailing list
16:13 chris_n     right, np
16:12 thd         chris_n: It would help my attention to such messages if you would send them to koha AT agogme.com
16:12 chris_n     ahh... is there another you'd prefer me to use?
16:11 thd         chris_n: I have very many subject based mailing addresses
16:11 thd         chris_n: Thanks again
16:07 chris_n     thd: and another
16:05 thd         chris_n: Thanks
16:01 owen        "current session," "earlier today," and "previously?"
15:58 matts_      hmm... Not so sure... I could make some search about a topic at one time of the day and other searches about another topic later on the day... They would cleary be separated, session-based...
15:58 owen        I think a table for "today" and a table for "previous days" might be better since the concept of a "session" is a little bit obscure to users.
15:58 owen        Google's search history feature would be a good thing to look at for ideas.
15:57 hdl_laptop  maybe a display by date could be more interesting.
15:56 matts_      yes
15:56 hdl_laptop  yes... For the system... yes.
15:56 owen        matts_: If I log out and log in again that is considered a new session?
15:55 matts_      owen, hdl_laptop, it is session-based...
15:54 hdl_laptop  matts_: ?
15:53 owen        hdl_laptop, matts_ : How does the "current session" versus "previous session" work with search history? I thought it was by date, but that's obviously not the case.
15:52 chris_n     thd: I forwarded an email too you just now
15:22 hdl_laptop  oopps I missed Kyle
15:01 * rach      heads off back to bed
14:59 rach        if you think it might just be anoying then maybe you could
14:59 rach        for a public opac
14:58 rach        if you're worried about privacy then you can't rely on that
14:57 matts_      Indeed
14:57 owen        Some will, some won't
14:55 matts_      But the button for clearing history is very visible when it appears (on the top right, near "Log In"... So I guess the user will notice it when he performs his first search...
14:54 hdl_laptop  owen: mmm... timeout HAS to be implemented
14:54 rach        on a per person basis though
14:54 matts_      yes
14:54 owen        Ah, I see. So at that point I've permanently stored the search history of everyone who used the OPAC that day!
14:53 hdl_laptop  owen : as soon as they login, iirc (matts_ confirm), search history is stored in database.
14:53 rach        but they are pretty agressive at timeing you out
14:53 owen        Right, so if I'm stalking you I'll swoop in as soon as you finish. ;)
14:53 * rach      can check at her library what they do
14:52 rach        if you time out the unlogged stuff, then you would only see someone elses if you sat down at an opac they had just vacated?
14:52 * owen      isn't sure there is a perfect solution here
14:51 owen        ...except for hdl_laptop's example use case: Someone does some seaches, then remembers to log in. Should their previous searches be cleared at that point? They'll have lost that history.
14:51 rach        so shoudl they only see their logged in stuff?
14:50 owen        No, a logged in user sees their logged in stuff and whatever was searched for during that session before they logged in
14:49 rach        wouldn't a logged in user only see their logged in stuff?
14:49 owen        But a logged-in user will see both a combination of their stored (semi-permanent) search history and whatever random terms they picked up from other users that day
14:48 rach        if they use their own PC then they will never "know" that there are 2 things going on
14:48 rach        if they use a public OPAC they would expect there to be "remnants" of other users
14:48 rach        owen I think 2 would just add visual complexity to the user
14:44 owen        (not sure if (2) is possible)
14:43 owen        2) Change the display of search terms to indicate which terms are stored long-term based on userid?
14:43 * rach      is passing through
14:43 owen        Perhaps we should do a couple of things: 1) Add a system preference to block access to search history for non-logged-in uers
14:43 brendan     goodmorning hdl_laptop owen et. al
14:43 owen        Hi brendan
14:43 hdl_laptop  hi brendan
14:42 owen        I agree hdl_laptop, I'm not sure how to handle both cases.
14:42 hdl_laptop  yep
14:42 hdl_laptop  don't you think ?
14:42 owen        It's a two-layered system, correct? Search terms input by non-logged-in users are stored in cookies, terms input by logged-in users are stored in the database?
14:42 hdl_laptop  owen: could be. but when they login with their computer, they will enjoy that feature.
14:41 matts_      A timeout seems a good idea to me...
14:41 hdl_laptop  BUT.... matts_ Maybe we should have a timeout (say 10 minutes) for search_history to be flushed ...
14:40 owen        Won't it be confusing to the user if they log in to a public OPAC terminal and find a history of search terms that they don't remember searching for?
14:39 hdl_laptop  you first search things... And then, you think.... Oh I forgot to login.... login and you gett all your search history in.
14:39 hdl_laptop  owen: use case is this :
14:38 owen        If I log in and view my search history, some of those terms are mine, and some are terms searched for by the person who came before me.
14:37 owen        hdl_laptop and matts_ : setting aside the issue of whether anonymous search terms should stored, I think some thought needs to be given to how the history is presented to the logged-in user
14:27 matts_      so the bug is (2)
14:27 matts_      In fact, the link should appear when the first search as a non-logged user is performed
14:24 hdl_laptop  matts_: ?
14:23 owen        hdl_laptop: The bug is either (1) Non-logged-in users have their searches logged or (2) Non-logged-in users have no way to view and clear their search history (because the search history link doesn't display at the top)
14:23 hdl_laptop  Maybe should be disabled-able by syspref ?
14:23 nengard     hehe
14:23 hdl_laptop  owen: this was asked... So we did :D
14:22 owen        I realize that it's not much different than clicking the back button, but it seems more overt to provide a link.
14:22 hdl_laptop  you can delete it with a click iirc.
14:22 nengard     owen - i'm with you - cause that means the history might be kept on public computers without people logging in first
14:21 owen        hdl_laptop: So you disagree with my bug report suggesting that search history should be limited to logged in users? I'm worried that users will see that as an invasion of their privacy.
14:17 hdl_laptop  owen: I think so
13:50 nengard     wizzyrea - will the website upgrade make all links to content be broken? I have linked to your site a lot in the new manual since it had so much info :)
13:49 owen        hdl_laptop or paul_p: Should the OPAC search history feature be available to non-logged-in users?
13:48 munin       magnusenger: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -10.0�C (2:20 PM CET on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
13:48 magnusenger @wunder bodo, norway
13:46 munin       owen: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -6.0�C (8:34 AM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
13:46 owen        @wunder 45701
13:45 owen        What's really cold for Texas?
13:41 schuster    Getting ready to bundle up!  supposed to be REALLY cold here for Texas tomorrow!
13:40 owen        Hi schuster
13:39 schuster    Hey all.
12:41 chris_n     g'morning (or the appropriate TOD) Ropuch
12:39 Ropuch      Hi chris_n, jwagner
12:39 chris_n     hi jwagner
12:32 munin       chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -5.7�C (7:30 AM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Rising).
12:32 chris_n     @wunder 28334
12:32 chris_n     g'morning #koha
09:11 Ropuch      Plug barcode scanner, open test editor and scan some isbn or whatever
09:10 Ropuch      Barcode is simply device
09:10 Ropuch      No afaik
09:09 chipsy      do i have to turn any setting on
09:08 Ropuch      ;>
09:07 Ropuch      Just like while shopping
09:07 Ropuch      Instead or typing a number/title or whatever
09:06 Ropuch      Barcode is used to identify an item, you print the barcode on the label, then when checking in/out a book you just need to scan it
09:05 Ropuch      I'm not sure I understand your question
08:57 chipsy      hi can anyone describe how to use barcode & barcode reader with koha
08:14 magnusenger hello biblibre
08:07 paul_p      hello world
08:00 hdl_laptop  hi
07:59 magnusenger well that's global warming for you... ;-)
07:58 nicomo      not  days
07:57 nicomo      it's supposed to snow like 2hrs per year
07:57 nicomo      yes, but living where I leave that's annoying
07:57 magnusenger nicomo: you'r in good company then, i guess...
07:56 nicomo      magnusenger: actually waiting for the snow to melt
07:35 magnusenger i'm fine, looking forward to above freezing temperatures in a couple of days and trying to work out some xslt weirdness - and you?
07:34 nicomo      heya magnusenger how are you?
07:33 magnusenger good morning nicomo et al
07:29 nicomo      morning koha, morning all
06:43 Amit_laptop heya Ropuch
06:42 Ropuch      Morning #koha
06:35 * chris     pops in briefly
05:47 liz-nekls   hey peps
05:21 brendan     g'night #koha
04:55 chris_n2    g'night #koha
04:55 chris_n2    nasty bug fixed...
03:58 brendan     hi amit
03:57 Amit        hi brendan, chris
03:57 Amit        hi chris_n2
03:51 chris_n2    howdy Amit
03:41 * chris_n2  also notes that koha has been developed primarily for FF rather than other browsers
03:40 * thd       exercises his able body
03:40 thd         However, I have learnt what coping with a disability is like
03:39 thd         I am pleased to have overcome my unpleasantly long disability
03:38 thd         good point richard
03:38 richard     it depends a bit on the browser. msie8 and ff3 magnify the whole page rather than just the font - so you end up having to scroll right to see it all
03:37 thd         I myself spent a very long time recovering from an injury requiring me to be very far from the screen and had to use low resolution and font magnification to use a computer
03:37 * chris_n2  finds a nasty bug in the patron card code :-(
03:36 thd         I have worked with people who have had vision problems and if things do not scroll properly with font magnification it is a real problem
03:35 thd         I am very concerned about what happens when fonts are magnified for disability access
03:34 thd         the staff may not necessarily have anything different
03:34 thd         kados expressed the view at that time that we should design for 800 x 600
03:34 chris_n2    ahh... I'm thinking primarily in terms of the staff-client side not the opac
03:33 thd         chris_n2: 800 x 600 was the most common resolution of public access computer terminals which kados had found for libraries adopting Koha three years ago
03:33 * chris_n2  wonders how Koha looks on a blackberry or iphone
03:33 chris_n2    thd: at that point I think we'd have to feed the browser results based on agent type
03:32 chris_n2    although I do know some web designers who assume very low resolution
03:32 thd         chris_n2: minimal resolution on a pocket sized device may be the computer of the future with some clever way of having full keyboard input
03:31 chris_n2    thd: that would make for some very sorry looking layouts I think
03:31 thd         chris_n2: assuming nothing about minimal screen resolution would be best.
03:24 chris_n2    just in case
03:24 chris_n2    although I do maintain dial in management capability on several systems I admin
03:23 masonj      i guess 1024x768 is the safe option
03:23 brendan     yeah my reaction too
03:23 brendan     heh
03:23 chris_n2    dial up... what's that? ;-)
03:23 brendan     so I guess that's a good average
03:23 masonj      up from 1024x768, circa 2005
03:23 brendan     I'd hope so, but I still know some people on dial up
03:22 chris_n2    that's sort of what I was thinking
03:22 masonj      the default screen rez these days is 1280X1024 , i think
03:22 brendan     I think nengard was just building up some steam to start tackling some of those issues
03:21 brendan     yeah I'm guessing that should be discussed in some of the coding-guidelines docs
03:18 chris_n2    it would be nice to know at what resolution they should be designed
03:18 chris_n2    I work at some unearthly high resolution and my browser interface layouts do strange things at lower "normal" resolutions
03:16 brendan     yeah that kind of question drives me crazy sometimes
03:16 * chris_n2  wonders what average screen resolution a koha user runs their monitor at
03:12 chris       heh
03:11 brendan     whoops featuring MARC
03:11 brendan     "The Wolrd's Worst Inventions" feature MARC
03:11 brendan     Git wrangling
03:10 brendan     yeah some interesting looking talks there
03:10 brendan     heh
03:09 chris       the sysadmins have built a fort
03:09 brendan     you going to see "code rush"
03:09 chris       http://freedomisnothingtofear.com/~pipes/a/office.jpg
03:09 chris       lol
03:07 chris       some good talks
03:07 chris       http://www.lca2010.org.nz/programme/schedule
03:05 brendan     any other highlights?
03:05 brendan     oh excellent
03:05 chris       presenting at the education mininconf on koha too
03:05 brendan     good thing
03:05 chris       im all registered now
03:05 chris       yup
03:05 brendan     ah getting close to linux.conf chris
03:02 chris       id make the module use that
03:00 chris       Log::Log4perl
03:00 chris       sorry error logging module
03:00 chris       there is a good error handling module
02:58 chris_n2    among others
02:58 chris_n2    with browser and log methods
02:55 * chris_n2  wishes for C4::ErrorHandler
02:54 munin       chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -1.2�C (9:51 PM EST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Rising).
02:54 chris_n2    @wunder 28334
02:44 munin       chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (3:00 PM NZDT on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
02:44 chris       @wunder wellington, nz
02:43 rhcl_home   Cold enough that just walking around outside hurts your lungs a little
02:42 chris       crazy cold
02:41 chris       sure is
02:41 rhcl_home   -15.2 C. It's chilly outside.
02:41 munin       rhcl_home: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -15.2�C (8:38 PM CST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035.4 hPa (Falling).  Winter Storm Warning in effect from 9 am Wednesday to 6 PM CST Thursday...
02:41 rhcl_home   @wunder 64505
02:39 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.3�C (6:35 PM PST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising).
02:39 brendan     @wunder 93117
02:29 rhcl1       here or out the window or something?
02:28 * chris_n2  watches the people come and go
00:32 brendan     then let her rip and see if I'm able to repeat
00:31 brendan     (was also thinking that if I can get access to that machine - I may just swap out the code for that section with the code from head)
00:31 brendan     -itemscontent <list of fields>
00:29 brendan     I was wondering if that was an option or if that was depecated
00:29 brendan     so reading through the cronjob -- their are options to list out which fields to print -- i.e biblio, title, etc.
00:28 brendan     heh
00:28 chris_n2    weirdness--
00:28 brendan     yeah weirdness
00:28 chris       weird
00:28 brendan     all same versions
00:27 brendan     and on other servers that we all set up by this individual
00:27 chris       different versions?
00:27 munin       chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -1.6�C (7:23 PM EST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Steady).
00:27 chris_n2    @wunder 28334
00:27 brendan     the weird thing is that on all of my hosted servers -- this is not a problem
00:27 chris       try that
00:27 chris       biblio.title i think
00:26 chris       yeah you dont want that for individual you want
00:26 brendan     all of the ones that are individual emails - the <items.content> does not print
00:26 chris       lemme find it
00:26 chris       yeah you dont want that, you want
00:25 brendan     anybody got any ideas for me to trace down this issue.  When sending overdues, all the emails that come as a digest or as a text attachment - print the <items.content>