Time Nick Message 23:43 SelfishMan but does the foundation officially exist *right now*? 23:43 SelfishMan Ok, odd question and I'm pretty sure I know the answer 23:03 rhcl ltr 23:03 rhcl ok, lrt 23:03 wizzyrea but otherwise I'll ttyl, because I'll be here 23:03 wizzyrea if you get tomorrow off, lucky you :) 23:03 wizzyrea ok, gotta go, brain made of toast 23:02 wizzyrea *get off of I-35 23:02 wizzyrea it's on the corner 23:02 wizzyrea basically, you get off on misison road, head south to 47th 23:02 rhcl I got a new GPS for Christmas, maybe I should try it out 23:02 wizzyrea you may be thinking of the one on strang line 23:01 wizzyrea this is the one we went to 23:01 wizzyrea http://www.mapquest.com/maps?address=3002+west+47th+ave&city=kansas+city&state=ks&zipcode=66103&country=US 23:01 wizzyrea maybe 23:00 rhcl ??? maybe I'm confusted 23:00 wizzyrea the door is towards the left 23:00 wizzyrea erm, it's a largish gas station 23:00 rhcl I was there once and can't find my way back 23:00 wizzyrea they don't need to advertise lol 23:00 rhcl it's in a kinda largerish strip mall, right, towards the left end as you face it from outside? 23:00 wizzyrea you'd never know it was a restaurant, there's hardly any signage 22:59 wizzyrea maybe you drove past it 22:59 wizzyrea lol 22:59 wizzyrea it's in a gas station 22:59 wizzyrea stupid googles 22:59 rhcl yea, well, google doesn't 22:59 wizzyrea was there a couple of weeks ago 22:59 wizzyrea I know where that is 22:59 wizzyrea OH OH 22:59 wizzyrea Buffalo new york = chicken wings 22:59 rhcl yea, whish I could find Oklahoma Joe's 22:58 wizzyrea lawrence = free state beer 22:58 wizzyrea kansas city = bbq 22:58 wizzyrea everywhere has it's benefits lol 22:58 rhcl um, but lots of good things :) 22:57 wizzyrea though they have very good food there 22:57 wizzyrea euch 22:57 wizzyrea hot, humid 22:57 wizzyrea nah, not the tropics 22:57 rhcl Thailand 22:57 wizzyrea then you can live in a lovely temperate place all year round 22:57 wizzyrea I'm thinking take the 6 months when the weather sucks, and move to the other hemisphere 22:56 rhcl yea, pictures of snow work fine for me 22:56 * wizzyrea totally digs the idea of summer xmas 22:56 rhcl then apparently the pain meds worked :) 22:56 wizzyrea so I'd imagine he's just enjoying the summer :) 22:55 wizzyrea true, though he tweeted last night about a big day of adventures 22:55 munin rhcl: chris was last seen in #koha 1 day, 6 hours, 29 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <chris> ok, pain killers kicking in, back to sleep i go 22:55 rhcl @seen chris 22:55 munin rhcl: Error: "says" is not a valid command. 22:55 rhcl munin says he was taking pain killers 22:55 wizzyrea he may be on a koha vacay as dictated by his wife :) 22:55 wizzyrea not sure 22:54 rhcl is chris sick or something? 22:54 rhcl for real 22:54 wizzyrea it's so lonely when everyone's on vacay 22:54 wizzyrea but a good suggestion. 22:54 wizzyrea yea, not sure that would help 22:53 rhcl coffee 22:53 wizzyrea and then pflapff 22:53 wizzyrea I was doing so well 22:53 wizzyrea ohh, don't you just hate it when you run out of steam 22:13 rhcl I see that there is a php-sip class (not a surprise) 21:50 rhcl yep, I sees it 21:49 jwagner I looked at an adult patron & it was there but grayed out. Probably only active in a child record. 21:48 rhcl but we're creating one now to test it 21:48 rhcl jwagner: does that only show up if you have a child patron? We are just testing koha still and don't have a child patron, but we don't see that option... 21:47 rhcl I think I need to start looking at the SIP code and see all the values that koha can return. 21:46 jwagner When you're in the patron record, under the More button, Update Child to Adult Patron? 21:45 rhcl that's a non-librarian speaking, however 21:45 rhcl or even better, it should do a date of birth check periodically and change all the juvenile user patron types to adult 21:44 rhcl we use the "patron type" juvOK. But if we tried to do that in Koha, when this user turned 17, then we need to change the "patron type" to adult. Maybe I just don't see how to do that, however. 21:43 rhcl Well, I also see a "code" for "patron category" but it doesn't seem easy to change that for a patron once created. For example, if we need to check for a juvenile user with parental permission to use the internet... 21:43 jwagner Come out of that hole, it's not groundhog day yet. No, I remember looking for those & I'm pretty sure they're hardcoded. 21:41 * wizzyrea goes back to her hole 21:41 wizzyrea those arenn't authorized values? 21:40 jwagner No, that's a downer. It's hardcoded somewhere. 21:39 rhcl Is it possible to add/change category type? The drop down list seems to be fixed to "adult", "child", et al. 21:39 jwagner I haven't looked at a Sirsi system in a while, but I think Koha patron categories have more settings. 21:39 jwagner pretty much, yeah. 21:38 rhcl Is a Koha "patron category" analogous to a Sirsi "patron type"? 21:35 rhcl Distributed databases can be slow to update and propagate changes (in my limited experience). 21:35 rhcl I have vacillated several times over the past couple of years over whether a server-client or distributed database is a better solution for this type of application. 21:33 rhcl You can almost cookbook the install. 21:32 wizzyrea yea, he's a top notch gentleman when it comes to thoroughness 21:32 rhcl Kyle's install instructions are excellent, too. 21:27 wizzyrea yes, that kind of stuff would be handy as well 21:27 wizzyrea Ahhh 21:27 rhcl and we use a profile like "juvOK" (in Sirsi) for that. I'm not sure that libki does any checks like that, although SIP will return that profile type. 21:26 rhcl and it needs to do a SIP check to check if a patron profile is authorized access to the internet. For example, if a user is <17 yo, then they need to have signed parental permission for the Internet 21:25 wizzyrea php, I feel, is not particularly daunting 21:25 wizzyrea Ahh, yea, we run into that too 21:24 rhcl A couple of features that we see right off that it needs is a "multiple login" check, where a user can only be logged into one position at at time (we have kids that love to share their lib card) 21:24 wizzyrea now that I think about it for more than 2 seconds 21:24 wizzyrea actually, we have some places using cybraryn, and one place using envisionware 21:23 wizzyrea that is hotness 21:23 rhcl The "koha" integration thingee will let you click on a logged-on (or logged off) user and take you directly to their koha profile 21:23 wizzyrea hee 21:22 rhcl most things seem to work "as advertised", and it's pretty, which is important for staff acceptance. 21:22 rhcl But libki is really really responsive...much quicker than some of the systems we've played with 21:21 rhcl I don't know if my tech assistant and I are smart enough to start writing php or not. We had actually hoped to start looking at Koha code sometime with the thought of working on some easy bugs. 21:21 rhcl Well, we just brought up a libki client, and have been playing with the system. I really like most of what I see, except it needs a few additional features. 21:19 wizzyrea we would like to look at libki but are totally snowed at the moment 21:19 wizzyrea where we have it, we are using LibraryMetricks, and loathe it, for the most part 21:08 rhcl Liz, what patron access system are you using? 21:08 collum I doubt there was a conspiracy, but it would make a great Library Mystery Novella. 21:06 collum :) 21:06 rhcl Liz speaks! 21:05 wizzyrea ok, back into my hole 21:05 wizzyrea they must have some very convincing folks :P 21:05 wizzyrea so you're thinking that LL is perhaps the unwitting recipient of a grand scheme for WALDO to take over Koha? 21:04 wizzyrea ooh, conspiracy! 21:01 collum Yep. Can't find anything more recent, except for LL announements. 21:00 rhcl except that was 1.75 years ago... 20:59 rhcl ...not sure what to make of that post 20:55 rhcl ...seems like they wanted to buy Evergreen...reading... 20:53 rhcl ...reading... 20:52 collum Just read some history. It's interesting that they were on PALs before Koha. (http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=136031146335) 20:50 rhcl "information regarding updated pricing, new products, special offers, content changes, or other information on products offered through WALDO" 20:50 rhcl Here's a snip that almost reads like they are a clearing house for products for their members: 20:49 collum I'm not sure that I can speculate on their intention, but that seems to be the result. 20:46 rhcl saw Koha, and said "Let's buy that one?" 20:46 rhcl Do you suppose it's possible they were a unit in search of a mission...ooops, that's military...an organization in search of an ILS that they could acquire primarily for their members... 20:45 rhcl Their range of interest, however, is somewhat broader than I had imagined... 20:44 rhcl Well, now that there seems to be signs of life...I've been looking over the WALDO website, and I don't see anything particularly that states any interest in open source. 20:42 collum They are not listed on http://www.waldolib.org/members.asp 20:42 jwagner That's Kyle's site, isn't it? Pennsylvania? I doubt it's part of WALDO. 20:37 rhcl Does anybody know if the Crawford County Fed Library system is part of WALDO? 20:35 rhcl Ohhh, you're gonna miss out... 20:34 * owen would normally game, but it's quittin' time! 20:34 rhcl Does anybody wanna talk politics? 20:27 rhcl_lunch liz, you there? 20:13 collum Someone just posted a bunch of "open source" questions to Horizon-L. Suggested they post to the Koha or Evergreen lists instead. We'll see. 20:06 owen But I'm not sure that's the right thing to do here, concerned about the overhead of doing that when looping through list contents 20:05 owen But the places I've seen that in use pass a $record variable created by doing my $record = GetMarcBiblio() 20:04 owen The way I know to do that is to use C4::Biblio::get_koha_field_from_marc() 20:04 owen I'd like Lists in the OPAC to show subtitle as well as title 20:04 owen Anyone here familiar with the GetMarcBiblio() function? 20:00 brendan heh :) 19:58 jwagner Sorry, I thought that said hula. Was having visions of everyone on the beach in Hawaii..... 19:54 brendan hola #koha 19:25 wizzyrea :P 19:25 wizzyrea bye 19:25 wizzyrea rhcl: oh hai... oh, nm 19:21 munin rhcl: chris was last seen in #koha 1 day, 2 hours, 55 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <chris> ok, pain killers kicking in, back to sleep i go 19:21 rhcl @seen chris 19:21 munin rhcl: kyle was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 5 days, 23 hours, 14 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <kyle> A late thought, instead of having a version number battle, why not move to a date based versioning system like Ubuntu? Koha 9.12? 19:21 rhcl @seen kyle 19:20 munin rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 59 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> at least this week. 19:20 rhcl @seen wizzyrea 19:10 richard hi 18:41 brendan See you all later - enjoy that day 18:36 CGI659 is it possible to do multilingual cataloging 18:35 CGI659 thnks guys 18:35 CGI659 yes i now have the multilingual screen 18:34 collum Darn it. So much for the easy fix. Then it must not be able to find a file that is referenced in tmpl_process3.pl. 18:33 CGI659 translated template files were successfully generated 18:32 CGI659 yeah it is done 18:30 collum CGI659: if you do an ls command does tmpl_process3.pl appear in the file listings? ./ indicates that the file has to be in the current directory. 18:19 owen CGI659: I've gotten that error before if I forgot to create the directory for the template files 18:13 CGI659 i got bash: ./tmpl_process3.pl: No such file or directory 18:13 CGI659 after i ran the command i got bash: ./tmpl_process3.pl: No such file or directory 18:08 owen CGI659: So your translated template files were successfully generated? 18:07 CGI659 but my screen is still not multilingual 18:06 owen Sorry CGI659 I don't know about that 18:04 CGI659 how can i set Googlearabictranslitration 18:04 CGI659 hi 18:02 CGI659 my next task is to set Googlearabictranslitration in opac, how can i achieve that 17:58 CGI659 yes, i check the sysadmin it's there. ar-Arab-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po is .p not .po that was the initial error 17:56 owen Did you create the directories under koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog and koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog ? 17:55 CGI659 owen , i got tmpl_process3.pl : No such file or directory 17:51 CGI659 this is wa i got :Warning: Can't determine original templates' charset, defaulting to UTF-8 Warning: Charset Out defaulting to UTF-8 /opt/kohamaitainance/misc/translator/po/ar-Arab-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po: No such file or directory 17:44 owen_ tmpl_process3.pl said that? 17:43 CGI659 i'm installing it 17:42 CGI659 it said cant locate locale.po 17:38 owen_ If so, the next step is to enable your translation in system preferences. 17:36 owen_ You should now have a complete set of opac and intranet templates in the directories you created 17:36 owen_ Did those commands run successfully? 17:36 CGI659 and wat next 17:33 owen ./tmpl_process3.pl install -s ~/kohaclone/misc/translator/po/ar-Arab-i-opac-t-prog-v-3002000.po -r -i ~/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/ -o ~/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab 17:33 owen And: 17:32 owen ...assuming ~/kohaclone/ is where your Koha is installed 17:32 owen ./tmpl_process3.pl install -s ~/kohaclone/misc/translator/po/ar-Arab-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po -r -i ~/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/ -o ~/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab 17:32 owen from misc/translator, run this: 17:31 CGI659 then wat next 17:29 owen ..and koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab 17:29 owen First create folders where the translated templates will go: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab 17:27 owen CGI659: You'll have to generate the template files using the po file and a template-processing script 17:24 CGI659 thnks seen it, but how can i enable it 17:24 muchin owen: all right i'll review the file 17:23 muchin i can't find the z3950 script, I'm not sure I selected from the make file 17:23 owen muchin: the debian lenny INSTALL file has directions for how to start the z3950 daemon 17:22 muchin i'm running 3.0.0.2 on debian lenny ... and I'm following the directions from koha documentation 17:21 muchin ah, and I thought I had it solved 17:21 owen muchin: What instructions are you following? What version of Koha? 17:21 owen Sorry muchin, my comment was directed at CGI659 17:20 muchin thanks, what do i do from there 17:20 owen CGI659: misc/translator/po 17:17 muchin if there isn't a scripts folder in my intranet folder so I can run the z3950 daemon do I have recompile koha? 17:14 CGI659 i'm using git 17:14 CGI659 where can i check in the folder 17:11 owen CGI659: What version? Did the arabic po file not come with your download? 17:11 jwagner CGI659, there aren't too many people here today. 17:07 CGI659 hi 17:07 CGI659 hi can any one help me with arabic po download 17:04 owen Sorry CGI027, no idea 16:58 CGI027 I forgot to mention that I'm getting the following error message in the MARC Bibliographic Framework Test, but no errors are listed (i.e. OK is listed in every column): "You have 1 error(s) in your MARC configuration. Please fix them before using Koha". Any ideas what the error might be? 16:36 owen Telling us "Koha Express" lets us know that you don't have access to server configuration or command-line tools, and telling us the version number lets us know what you should expect to see in Koha (and what bugs you might encounter) 16:36 CGI027 Thanks again, owen. I'll try that. 16:35 owen CGI027: If you want to try the Koha mailing list, be sure to start by stating which version you're on (the number). 16:35 hilongo see you all next year! 16:34 hilongo Happy New Year to everyone! .. I'm off to vacation until february ... wohho! 16:34 owen CGI027: This is often a good place to ask, but at the moment there aren't very many people around 16:34 CGI027 Any suggestions for where I might look for help with my problem? 16:33 CGI027 Thanks for your help, owen. 16:33 * owen has only imported Koha exports into Koha 16:32 owen Anyway, I'm not very experienced with MARC imports, so I'm not sure what to tell you about that CGI027 16:32 owen Yeah, 3.0.2 was released in June wasn't it? 16:30 nengard um - yup - just a little 16:30 owen So they're a little behind 16:30 owen I see Liblime's site says "Runs the official Koha Project release (currently 3.0.2)" 16:29 nengard http://bywatersolutions.com/?p=296 16:28 nengard and then most recently 3.0.5 was released 16:28 nengard 3 weeks ago the current release was 3.0.4 16:27 CGI027 That's interesting since we just purchased it about 3 weeks ago. 16:27 nengard we're at 3.0.5 16:27 nengard well you're 3 releases behind ... 16:26 CGI027 Version 3.00.02.012 16:26 CGI027 Okay. Maybe that isn't the problem then. What I'm trying to solve is why when I import records item records are recognized but not created. I have an item type defined in 952$y and $a, $b, and $o all have values. 16:25 owen CGI027: What version are you using? Find out by going to More > About Koha 16:24 owen I don't know why you would have to run anything after modifying a framework. 16:23 CGI027 Yes. 16:23 owen So you were editing a framework under the "MARC Bibliographic Framework" page? 16:22 CGI027 It was the MARC Bibliographic Framework, actually. 16:21 owen If you were changing links, I assume you were using the latter. 16:21 owen CGI027: When you say "the MARC Frameworks page," I'm not sure what you mean. There is the "MARC Bibliographic framework" link from the administration page, and there is the "Koha to MARC mapping" link. 16:17 owen CGI027: Where does it say you should run misc/rebuildnonmarc.pl? 16:16 owen That's what I interpret from the "nomarc" part at least 16:16 owen I'm not sure if there is a step required here or not, but "rebuildnomarc.pl" looks likes it only relevant if marc support is turned off in your system. 16:12 CGI027 I changed some of the links. 16:12 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4019 critical, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Lists Merge Issues 16:12 nengard updated bug 4019 with a summary of changes that need to be made - as i understand them 16:11 owen CGI027: You edited a framework, or you changed the koha to MARC links? 16:10 CGI027 Hello. I made some changes in the MARC Bibliographic Framework in Koha Express and see that the misc/rebuildnonmarc.pl script now needs to be run so that the records appear properly in the OPAC. How is this done with Koha Express? If someone could just point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. 16:09 owen You can't replace the destination of that form with "cataloguing/merge," I tried it. It doesn't pass any biblionumbers, just a shelf number. 16:09 owen hdl_laptop: Should we also remove the merge button from the list of shelves? 16:07 hdl_laptop cataloguing/merge is the one. 16:07 nengard okay 16:07 hdl_laptop It is obsolete. 16:07 hdl_laptop nengard: virtualshelves/merge.pl should be removed. 15:55 nengard yeah the cataloguing/merge tool looks a lot easier to figure out 15:55 nengard hmm 15:54 owen hdl_laptop: One button takes me to virtualshelves/merge.pl and the other takes me to cataloguing/merge.pl 15:53 nengard the behavior of them 15:53 nengard and yes owen - i too see the differences between the two merge buttons 15:52 nengard it was a list with 0 items 15:52 nengard adding items to the list :) 15:52 owen What worked nengard? 15:52 nengard but now i have no idea what to do or how to document it :) 15:52 nengard okay - added things ot the list and it worked 15:51 owen "get lost!" geeze nengard, can't a merge get a little privacy around here? 15:51 nengard maybe cause my list is empty - but that means we should limit when the merge button shows -- off to add to the list 15:51 owen If I click through to one of the lists instead and "merge selected," I get an intermediary page which asks me to choose a merge reference. 15:50 nengard GET LOST ? at /home/nengard/kohaclone/virtualshelves/merge.pl line 131. 15:50 nengard hdl_laptop owen - i get a new error now that i have that installed 15:50 owen hdl_laptop: I'm viewing the list of all my lists, and clicking the "merge" button for one of them. 15:48 hdl_laptop You must have a merge problem. 15:48 hdl_laptop strange. 15:48 hdl_laptop owen: yes. 15:45 owen hdl_laptop: This is a tool for merging records? 15:45 owen Okay, now I don't get an error, but I get a page filled with a huge table and this at the top: "d4d89865f7169b3e107cfe4fb00d8d00" 15:44 nengard doing it now 15:43 hdl_laptop I shall ask my folks to remove that dependency 15:42 hdl_laptop nengard: owen can you try installing Devel::SimpleTrace ? 15:42 nengard if that helps 15:42 nengard i put my error log info into the bug report 15:41 nengard hehe 15:40 * owen says sternly, "Gentlemen, we are now at DebLev 2. Get to your bunkers." 15:40 owen hdl_laptop: I am in debug level 2, but the error was not output to the browser 15:39 nengard ahhhh! got it 15:39 owen nengard: I found that error in my log 15:39 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4019 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Lists Merge Button Throws Error 15:39 nengard see bug 4019 15:39 hdl_laptop owen: you are in debug mode are you not ? 15:38 nengard i get a 500 error 15:38 nengard owen - i don't get that 15:38 owen hdl_laptop: Do you know anything about it? 15:37 owen " Can't locate Devel/SimpleTrace.pm in @INC" 15:37 nengard off to bug report it - even though i don't know what the feature is supposed to do :) 15:37 nengard does nothing and throws an error :) 15:37 nengard both :) 15:36 owen Does nothing, or causes an error? I get an error. 15:33 nengard cause right now it does nothing :) 15:33 nengard what is the merge button on the private lists page in the staff client supposed to do? 15:33 nengard hey - found another new feature i didn't know about 15:08 brendan good morning rhcl 15:07 rhcl Morning brendan 14:45 hilongo morning! :) 14:39 brendan Morning All 14:30 nengard hiya owen 14:24 jdavidb Hi, owen! :) 14:24 owen Hi nengard, jdavidb 14:20 nengard let's just say it's FREEZING 14:20 nengard don't want to know the weather here 14:19 * jdavidb shivers a little. 14:19 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is -4.5�C (9:13 AM EST on December 30, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Rising). 14:19 jdavidb @wunder 20852 14:13 owen Sound good to me hilongo, my office is 15°C at the moment 13:59 hilongo Great day :D 13:58 munin hilongo: The current temperature in Mendoza, Argentina is 20.0�C (10:00 AM ART on December 30, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 13:58 hilongo @wunder Mendoza, Argentina 13:35 imp heyho owen 13:32 owen Hi #koha 13:03 jwagner Oh, well -- that's better than nothing :-) 13:02 hdl_laptop only the first two days 13:02 jwagner Bonjour hdl_laptop. Thought you were on vacation this week. 13:00 hdl_laptop hi jwagner 12:56 munin imp: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 0.1�C (1:42 PM CET on December 30, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa (Steady). 12:56 imp @wunder Berlin alexanderplatz 12:55 munin collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is -2.9�C (7:50 AM EST on December 30, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa (Falling). 12:55 collum @wunder 41011 12:49 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is -5.5�C (7:47 AM EST on December 30, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.52 in 1033.4 hPa (Rising). 12:49 jwagner @wunder 20740 08:14 nicomo hi Amit 08:13 Amit heya nicomo 05:25 munin Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 19.0�C (8:30 AM IST on December 30, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. 05:25 Amit @wunder Bangalore 04:39 Amit heya richard 04:39 richard good afternoon Amit 04:26 Amit good morning #koha 04:26 Amit hi chris