Time Nick Message 03:00 * chris_n2 wanders in and looks around 03:00 * chilts sees chris_n2 wander in and look around 03:07 chris_n2 hi andy 03:10 SelfishMan multiple chris* nicks confuses me 03:11 chris i only have the one :) 03:11 * chris_n2 is also chris_n 03:11 chilts lol 03:11 chris_n2 vpn is too latent for me to deal with 03:11 chilts so my Post-Christmas resolution (seeing as I don't do New Year's ones), get Koha going at home and damn well fix somethign :) 03:11 chilts think I missed getting a commit number under 100 :) 03:11 chilts maybe 101 is good though 03:12 SelfishMan there are three chris* nicks? I just got used to two! 03:12 chris_n2 my resolution to get koha going on win32 by year's end is fading fast 03:12 chilts :( 03:12 chilts good luck! 03:12 SelfishMan chris_n2: What flavor of perl? 03:12 chris_n2 SelfishMan: earlier there were four chris* nicks 03:12 chris_n2 strawberry 03:13 SelfishMan I haven't played with strawberry yet. Does it have full support for Time:HiRes yet? 03:13 chris_n2 the maintainers worked with me last month to get several changes made in the January 2010 build necessary to run koha 03:13 chris_n2 I'm not sure about that 03:14 SelfishMan That is one of the things that always amazed me about activestate and vanilla perl was that Time::HiRes was not useable 03:14 SelfishMan Even more amazed by that fact that there was no alarm support 03:14 chris_n2 right now I'm trying to fight through figuring out why a single directory install of koha runs fine, but a dev install causes apache to bork when calling /cgi-bin/ pages 03:15 chris_n2 motivation has been low for the last several weeks, however :-P 03:16 SelfishMan Is there a release date for 3.2 yet? Not sure if I missed that discussion 03:18 chris nope 03:18 chris_n2 SelfishMan: cpan Time::HiRes says "Time::HiRes is up to date (1.9719)." 03:18 chris http://2tu.us/gqg 03:18 chris_n2 it appears to be a core module on strawberry 03:18 chris gotta kill those blockers and criticals (to be fair, most of them have patches waiting to be pushed) 03:18 chris and then it will be sometime after that 03:18 SelfishMan chris_n2: ok. just making sure. Had a library tell me they wanted to upgrade to 3.2 today but I don't remember it being scheduled for release yet. 03:19 * chris_n2 wonders if the bugs with patches waiting are marked as such 03:19 chris they are 03:19 chris using the priority column 03:19 chris so when they get pushed, someone gets to test and close them :) 03:20 chris_n2 any thoughts on why "http://localhost:8080/index.html" works fine, but "http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/tools-home.pl" causes apache to throw a 500 error? 03:20 chris_n2 same thing works fine with a single directory install 03:20 chris SelfishMan: we don't really do dates .. we aimed to get 3.2 out by the end of the year, but that wont happen .. but it will be out as soon as we can fix the bugs 03:20 chris chris_n2: whats the error in the log? 03:21 chris the main apache2 error log that is 03:21 chris_n2 nothing... that's the thing... just a line for the 500 error in the access log 03:21 * chris_n2 hates silent fails 03:22 pastebot "chris_n2" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "access.log" (6 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/102 03:23 chris_n2 last entries in the error log are from 16 dec... :-( 03:24 chris not the koha error log either? 03:26 chris_n2 yes 03:26 chris_n2 there are 03:27 * chris_n2 suddenly remembers where he was four weeks ago in the debugging 03:28 chris :) 03:28 pastebot "chris_n2" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "koha-error_log" (6 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/103 03:28 chris_n2 it appears to be pathing, but again, the only change here is the dev install vs. single dir install 03:29 chris_n2 C4 is located in C:/DOCUME~1/CHRIS/MYDOCU~1/koha-test/lib/ 03:29 chris and the SetEnv is right? 03:30 chris_n2 SetEnv PERL5LIB "C:/DOCUME~1/CHRIS/MYDOCU~1/koha-test/lib/" 03:30 SelfishMan chris: That's what I remember but they were convinced that 3.2 was out 03:30 SelfishMan Just needed to figure out which of us was on crack :--P 03:30 chris SelfishMan: heh, funny, maybe they were confused with 3.0.2 03:32 chris_n2 I've been trying to get it running as a dev install to ease getting my work into my git repo 03:32 chris_n2 it's a chore to manually move each change from the single dir into my win32 repo 03:33 chris you cant do symlinks in windows eh? 03:33 SelfishMan sure you can 03:34 SelfishMan They are called "junctions" and can be a little funky 03:35 chris_n2 what SelfishMan said :-) 03:35 chris_n2 funky is definitely the word 03:35 * chris_n2 wonders what part of windows is *not* funky 03:36 SelfishMan The first thing I learned about junctions is to *never* remove the target before removing the junction 03:36 chris right time to pick up kids 03:36 chris spotyas later 03:36 chris_n2 and time for bed here 03:36 chris_n2 g'night 03:38 Amit heya brendan, chris 03:38 Amit good morning all 04:00 brendan hi amit 04:00 brendan good evening 08:09 Ropuch Morning #koha 08:16 nicomo morning Ropuch 08:22 hdl_laptop hi all 08:26 Ropuch Hello 10:11 Amit heya nicomo, ropuch 10:15 Ropuch Hi amit 10:19 Ropuch Huh, I was just wondering how tiny dryed grapes are called in english 10:19 Ropuch I remeber "raisins" from sezame street ;> 10:20 Ropuch But querying some dictionaries gave me: tidbit, plum 10:20 Ropuch Thank you, google image! ;> 13:16 nengard happpy christmas eve eve everyone :) 13:16 jwagner And to you. 13:19 magnusenger to you too! 13:19 hdl_laptop nengard: hapy xmas eve 13:29 chris_n g'morning 13:35 hilongo happy christmas eve eve to you too... and to all :) 13:42 nengard so - today i'm going through pianohacker's updated sys prefs branch - i have to say i like it more and more the more i use it :) 13:44 owen nengard: You got tired of waiting and set up a special branch to test? 13:44 nengard yeah 13:44 nengard cause hdl_laptop gave me some detailed instructions for setting up a new branch and not losing HEAD :) 13:44 nengard I can share them with you too if you want 13:45 owen I think I'd better not...plenty of things to keep me occupied today without new shiny distractions 13:52 jwagner New toys! new toys! 13:54 hdl_laptop nengard: I want to make an open testing interface so that one can test. 13:54 nengard cool 13:56 chris_n bye chris_n2 13:57 * chris_n wonders if his 3 year old is playing with the keyboard at home again :-) 13:58 jwagner But Daddy plays with it, why can't I??? 14:09 chris_n hehe 14:09 chris_n paul_p++ #for the "too many sysprefs" observation 14:10 chris_n jwagner: if chris_n2 suddenly starts typing things unintelligible, you'll know what happened ;-) 14:12 jwagner Yep. Unfortunately, most of us don't have that excuse.... 14:13 jwagner chris_n, not sure I agree with paul_p and you -- I think allowing anonymous suggestions and allowing reading history anonymizing are two different functions. Libraries should have the either/both choice. I think both sysprefs should stay. 14:13 paul_p jwagner: activating them is another thing. This one is just to say which patron is the "anonymous patron". 14:14 chris_n my complaint about too many sysprefs is more general rather than directed so much at this particular instance 14:14 paul_p so, we have 3 : sugg yes/no, readinghistOptIn yes/No, AnonymousPatronName Number 14:14 jwagner paul_p, in that case, I'm OK with it. Just don't want to lose the granularity of control. 14:15 jwagner Personally, I like more sysprefs. The more control we give the library, the happier they'll be and the less customizing we might have to do. So long as the sysprefs are documented and don't clash with each other, the more the merrier! 14:30 chris_n jwanger: I've been thinking of a feature which would allow some sysprefs to be set on a per user basis (those that are appropriate for that sort of thing) 14:31 nengard chris_n & paul_p I don't agree - more preferences means more control for the librarians - and that's a good thing :) and pianohacker's sys prefs edits makes it much easier to navaigate 14:32 nengard paul_p i'm confused - suggestion just says whether to allow suggestions at all 14:32 jwagner chris_n, I think that would be very advisable. There are some sysprefs that the library really _shouldn't_ mess with, and others, like all the opac text blocks, that they can change to their heart's content. If we could group the "don't touch" ones somewhere and isolate a permission for them, that would be great. 14:32 * chris_n 's main concern has been the hither-to-fore confusion and general lack of understandable explanation of sysprefs in general 14:33 chris_n but nengard's work should fix most of that and stop my griping ;-) 14:33 nengard paul_p - so if i have suggestion on but want the suggestions to be anonymous i set anonsuggestion 14:33 jwagner I do think many of the sysprefs need better documentation. 14:33 nengard jwagner - working on it :) 14:33 nengard help always appreciated 14:35 chris_n some sort of syspref development standard which could be enforced on patches containing new sysprefs might also help keep the poison out of the pot of sysprefs 14:35 chris_n and keep work like is having to be done now down to a minimum 14:35 owen An iron-fisted RM could help 14:36 * chris_n tries to imagine gmcharlt with an iron fist, glibly smashing patches into little pieces :-) 14:36 jwagner Nah, gmcharlt is more the velvet glove type. Keep the iron fist out of sight, but available :-) 14:37 gmcharlt *snort* 14:37 owen Oooh, what color are they gmcharlt ? 14:37 chris_n I think development standards in general should move up to near the top of the list after our 3.2 release 14:37 jwagner I vote we all present gmcharlt an Order of the Iron Fist plaque when he retires from his present role. 14:38 chris_n they could save lots of time 14:38 gmcharlt owen: fuligin, naturally 14:41 * owen runs off the look up fuligin 14:52 chris_n @dict fuligin 14:52 munin chris_n: No definition for "fuligin" could be found. 14:58 nengard owen added you to a bug - i thought it was a circ issue -but now i'm almost positive it's a design issue 15:04 nengard done testing an documenting the new sys prefs branch - i think :) 15:11 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: hi 15:38 jwagner Got a report puzzler for you -- I'm trying to run a select * from borrowers where cardnumber like 'e%' but when I save the report, it's cutting it off at like 'e -- leaving off the % and the closing ' Any ideas why? 15:40 nengard jwagner sounds like an HTML filtering issue on the textarea ... 15:40 nengard off to try it myself 15:41 owen Some kind of sanitize routine that gets run on SQL submissions? 15:41 nengard jwagner and owen - it works for me ... 15:41 jwagner Don't know. This is a pretty old version of Koha, maybe a bug that got fixed in the meantime. 15:41 nengard on the most recent version of head 15:42 owen I've got a question about adding budgets. On the add budget form (admin/aqbudgets.pl) there is a hint that says "Budget amount cannot both be empty" 15:42 jwagner It does the same thing with a contains 'e' -- cuts off the closing ' 15:42 nengard yeah - i think i put a bug in for that owen - it's a language issue 15:42 owen nengard: So the "both" is superfluous? 15:42 owen Or "amound" and something else cannot both be empty? 15:42 nengard or there is another field that can't be blank that's missing 15:43 nengard not sure which 15:43 nengard owen - it wasn't a bug report - it was an email to the mailing list that was never answered -- 15:43 nengard off to put it in as a bug that you can watch 15:43 owen Maybe hdl_laptop or nahuel know the answer? 15:44 nahuel abotu what ? 15:44 nahuel about 15:44 nengard Bug 3998 15:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3998 normal, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Confusing warning on budget add page 15:44 owen nahuel: On admin/aqbudgets.pl 15:45 nahuel oh right 15:45 nahuel it's on new acquisition module ? 15:45 nengard yes 15:47 nahuel 2s 15:50 nahuel I don't find the message in templates... 15:50 owen "Budget amount cannot both be empty" 15:51 nahuel oh 2s 15:51 nahuel :) 15:53 nahuel $ grep -ir 'cannot both' koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/ 15:53 nahuel doesn't return anything... 15:53 owen http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/aqbudgets.tmpl;h=a7c64c9a4d2a1dd892c1b4ccfd486a19ea39fd8b;hb=HEAD 15:53 owen Line 284 15:56 nahuel 2s i'm rebasing 16:00 nahuel I got it ! 16:01 nahuel So 16:02 nahuel hmmm 16:04 nahuel ok 16:04 nahuel "both" can be deleted 16:04 nahuel if you want to do the patch 16:05 owen If budget amount cannot be empty, shouldn't it be a required field like budget name is? 16:05 nahuel no 16:06 nahuel It's an old stuff 16:06 nahuel Before you had to choose 2 budgets 16:06 nahuel now you have only one 16:06 owen So the whole message can be removed? 16:06 nahuel hmmm 16:06 nahuel Depends :) 16:06 paul_p owen: probably right 16:07 nahuel amount me be filled 16:07 nahuel as I know 16:07 wizzyrea nahuel: I have a question about bug 3950, is it related to 3270? 16:07 owen So it's okay to create a budget with no amount? 16:07 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3950 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Pending reserve problems 16:08 wizzyrea (because if you fixed that, I will... I'm not sure, but it will be a huge thanks) 16:08 nahuel owen, no you can't 16:08 nahuel wizzyrea, I fixed it today 16:09 nahuel it was REALLY hard 16:09 nahuel :) 16:09 owen Then budget amount *should* be a required field? 16:09 * wizzyrea squees with joy 16:09 nahuel I have a question for US people : how many holds a library have? 16:09 wizzyrea lots 16:09 nahuel lots is like how much ? 16:09 wizzyrea hundreds a day 16:09 nahuel 200 ? 16:09 nahuel 1000 ? 16:09 nahuel 10 000 ? 16:10 wizzyrea you know, I'm not sure how to measure that 16:10 wizzyrea items on the holds queue for the day? Items waiting in the queue 16:10 wizzyrea ? 16:10 nengard nahuel owen - my head hurts - what does the note mean and do we need it? 16:10 nahuel wizzyrea, items that should be in pending reserves :) 16:10 wizzyrea Ahh... lemme see if I can get a current snapshot of that, sec 16:10 nahuel nengard, The "amount" *must* be specified 16:11 owen Thanks nahuel, I'll see about including that in the work I'm doing on that template right now 16:11 nengard so it should be required and we can remove the note 16:11 nahuel ok cool :) 16:12 owen select count(*) from reserves where found IS NULL ? 16:12 owen Hmmm... and maybe add "and cancellation date is not null" ? 16:14 owen No, that turns up nothing 16:14 nahuel héhé 16:14 nahuel no owen 16:14 nahuel "and cancellationdate IS null" :) 16:15 owen Of course. But it doesn't look like it makes a difference to check cancellation date. I get the same result: 2726 16:16 jwagner nahuel, one of my sites can have several hundred holds in a day, maybe getting close to 1,000. We've done some work on pendingreserves ourselves, trying to speed it up for them. Not finished with that yet -- our programmer is looking at your patch to see if we're taking the same approach. 16:17 nahuel owen, me too :) 16:17 nahuel jwagner, I don't think 16:17 nahuel Mine is slower, but not hang the browser 16:17 nahuel It use some AJAX 16:18 nahuel for 1700 holds it took 20s to show the result 16:18 nahuel it have pagination 16:18 nahuel and filtering 16:19 owen We may have 2726 holds but we never look at a list of all of them. 16:19 nahuel In pending reserve, i'll add a CSV export 16:20 nahuel to allow librarians to print it 16:20 wizzyrea 2918 here 16:20 wizzyrea omg nahuel 16:20 wizzyrea i love you. 16:20 nahuel ahah 16:21 owen She says that nahuel, but she never calls on Valentine's Day. 16:21 wizzyrea well I didn't want to annoy your wife 16:21 wizzyrea ;) 16:21 paul_p nahuel: i'll copy/paste the chat to Delphine :D 16:21 nahuel You can 16:21 nahuel I have a lot of "in-love" friends 16:21 nahuel :p 16:21 wizzyrea Wife vs. Some random koha person... wife winds 16:21 wizzyrea wins* 16:21 chris_n hehe 16:22 wizzyrea wife crits you for 9999 16:22 wizzyrea you die. 16:22 * chris_n gets bug #3999 16:22 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3999 major, P5, ---, cnighswonger@foundations.edu, NEW, Create Batch on Marc Import Tool Does nothing 16:22 chris_n tnx nengard :-) 16:22 nengard no prob 16:22 wizzyrea there's one last thing about pending reserves 16:23 nahuel yep ? 16:23 wizzyrea i'm not sure we've filed a bug, it's kind of more of a fringe case 16:23 wizzyrea where the only item with a hold placed on it is missing 16:24 wizzyrea the reserves system shouldn't allow that 16:24 nahuel you're right :) 16:25 wizzyrea to be perfectly clear, this is a situation where a bib has only one item, and it's lost 16:25 owen What did I accidentally type to make mysql ask, "Display all 2786 possibilities? (y or n)" 16:26 nahuel héhé 16:26 nahuel "tab" 16:26 owen Oh, "tab" twice :) 16:26 nahuel héhé like in a shell 16:27 jwagner I don't think we've submitted it yet, but we've created a field in the reserves table for expiration date instead of calculating on the fly. This allows filtering etc. We also created a script to automatically transfer expired holds to old_reserves. 16:28 nahuel What about if you change the expiry delay ? 16:28 jwagner It records the expiration date as of the setting when the hold is triggered. 16:30 nahuel it don't update fields ? 16:30 jwagner You mean if someone changes the syspref? No. We have a site that changes the syspref at intervals (don't ask) but the expiration date should always be based on what was in effect when the hold was triggered. 16:34 nahuel héhé in 3.4 this won't be a syspref anymore 16:35 nahuel it'll be in issuingrules/smartrules 16:35 nahuel each library will be able to choose his delay 16:39 hdl_laptop pianohacker around ? 16:41 chris_n @seen pianohacker 16:41 munin chris_n: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 day, 15 hours, 4 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <pianohacker> Good night, #koha 16:44 owen @seen pianohackr|work 16:44 munin owen: pianohackr|work was last seen in #koha 3 days, 17 hours, 35 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <pianohackr|work> It is a landmine, I tell you 16:45 owen Hmmm.. I guess munin doesn't know you were here unless you said something. 16:45 nengard heh - sometimes those last quotes are just funny 16:45 chris_n @quote add <pianohackr|work> It is a landmine, I tell you 16:45 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded. Quote #50 added. 16:46 * chris_n is sorry he missed seeing that one live ;-) 16:47 wizzyrea http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/album/A+Charlie+Brown+Christmas/ 16:47 wizzyrea merry christmas everybody 16:51 owen nahuel: I'm curious about the jquery "treeTable" scripts in aqbudgets.tmpl 16:51 owen Under what conditions does something on that page display as a tree? 16:51 owen I've tried adding a sub-budget, thinking that would be it, but my sub-budget displays the same as other budgets 16:51 nahuel owen, with big tree between budgets 16:52 nahuel sub-budgets with sub-budgets with sub-budgets 16:53 owen nahuel: If I have a sub-budget with a sub-budget, should I see the tree view automatically? 16:53 nahuel theoricaly yes :) 16:54 * owen doesn't see it :( 16:54 nahuel oh, tomorrow i'll take a look 16:55 owen Okay, I'll file a bug 16:55 nahuel ping me to remind me :) 17:00 owen Bug 4000! 17:00 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4000 normal, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com, NEW, Budgets table doesn't show tree view for sub-budgets 17:02 jwagner That's some kind of milestone. Not sure if it's good or bad.... 17:04 owen I'd like to see a graph of open bug reports over time. Hopefully that would not be a steadily rising line. 17:07 chris it does rise, mainly because we are bad at marking bugs resolved/closed not because we arent fixing them 17:07 owen nengard will have made a difference with her recent work 17:07 chris hence the desire for 3.4 to come with a bug wrangler to do that 17:07 chris yep 17:08 chris also enhancements ... often just keep growing and don't get checked again 17:08 chris even when they have actually now been implemented, or it no longer makes sense 17:11 chris nahuel: was your patch for 3536 meant for master or 3.0.x ? it does the updatedatabase for 3.0.x ... shall i make one for master too? 17:11 * chris_n hates it when he gets the assignment operator swapped with a logical equality >:-( 17:13 paul_p chris: nahuel just left 17:14 paul_p chris: Merry Christmas to you ! (it's 24th for you isn't it ;-) ) 17:14 * paul_p head home now (6:15PM in France) 17:14 chris_n bye paul_p 17:14 paul_p see you tomorrow. Next week will be an internet-less one ! 17:15 * chris_n too (next week) 17:17 chris cya 17:20 indradg Merry Christmas to all at #koha 17:36 nengard owen - yeah - i did the best i could - some bugs weren't even marked as patch sent - so i may have not tested some that were done because of that 17:37 nengard i think bugzilla could make things a little easier - but i like it better than other systems i've used 17:37 owen it takes some discipline on everyone's part to make sure the process works well. 17:38 owen If only Bugzilla could prevent you from marking something as patch-sent if there are not patches attached. 17:38 nengard i'd like a way to mark it assigned, patch sent and attach the patch in one move 17:39 nengard see if bugzilla made it easier maybe more people would do it 17:39 nengard who knows 17:39 chris i doubt it 17:39 nengard LOL 17:39 chris seriously 17:39 nengard well - i'd appreciate it :) making my life easier as one of the good kids just seems fair 17:40 nengard or a way to add multiple attachments at once - that would also be nice 17:40 nengard i try to be detailed and provide images - but sometimes i just don't cause of how annoying it is to do 17:40 chris there are probably enhancements filed for that 17:41 wizzyrea nengard: you could use screencast/jing and keep them all online and just link to them there 17:41 wizzyrea instead of uploading to bugzilla 17:41 nengard bleh - still another step 17:42 nengard hehe 17:42 wizzyrea hm, my experience with jing is screencap, add arrows or whatever, say save to screencast and it is ready to paste the link 17:42 nengard i'm not a fan of jing in general - not sure what it is - but it bugs me 17:42 nengard :) 17:42 wizzyrea which seems easier than taking the screencap, adding arrows, saving, uploading into bugzilla 17:43 chris basically what we need the bug wrangler to do, i forget who volunteered for that 17:43 chris lemme look 17:43 wizzyrea ah, well you're entitled to your opinion :D 17:43 nengard several people did 17:43 nengard volunteer for the bug wrangler job 17:43 chris jesse or calyx 17:43 chris to nag people 17:44 chris attach your patch, add more info 17:44 chris there are bugs that i just go, what? and move on 17:44 chris if a developer cant figure out what you mean ... they will just move on .. more info is always better 17:45 chris its a human problem, ppl are inherently bad at reporting bugs 17:45 owen Yeah, because if there is lower-hanging fruit it will be chosen first 17:45 chris and they just need someone to nag them into being good ;-) 17:48 nengard working as temp bug wrangler again - i'm good at nagging :) 17:49 chris :) 17:50 chris im too brutal to do bug wrangling, id just go these have been open more than 6 months, no one has done anything to them ... closed 17:50 nengard no no no 17:51 nengard the prob is there are so many patches waiting to be pushed - so i can't test them and close them until they're pushed 17:51 chris the mail will at least prompt people to reopen them and look at them if they really care 17:51 chris oh there are craploads of really old ones with no patches too 17:52 chris 1199 open 17:53 chris 304 of those have patches 17:54 nengard wizzyrea - who wrote this? http://www.nexpresslibrary.org/go-live/configure-your-receipt-printers/ I want to add it to the manual with the proper credits 17:56 * chris_n finishes adding the ability to embed borrowers table fields into text lines on patron cards 17:56 chris_n and inches one step closer to the end 18:01 nengard woo hoo - go chris_n 18:02 wizzyrea nengard: pretty much everyone on the NExpress team had a hand in that one. I wrote it originally, Heather Braum edited it some, sharon did too 18:02 wizzyrea I think you can just credit NEKLS with it's creation 18:02 wizzyrea it was a team effort :P 18:03 nengard wizzyrea - okey dokey 18:03 wizzyrea most of our stuff is (except for the reports stuff, sharon does most of that) 18:03 nengard :) 18:03 nengard okay all - prepare to be flooded with bug emails if you subscribe to that list 18:03 nengard status changed to REMIND on all bugs that haven't been looked at since before 12-31-2008 18:04 wizzyrea nengard: did you see the patch I sent yesterday that sharon re-wrote some of the help in the reports module? 18:04 nengard yes i saw it - and i need to grab that text for the manual or i might end up overwriting it next time i edit that file :) 18:05 nengard i usually write those files based on the manual 18:05 wizzyrea or you can work them together 18:05 wizzyrea i'm sure she won't mind 18:05 nengard yeah - that's what i mean - i need to take her edits and add them to what i wrote in the manual :) 18:05 wizzyrea ah gotya 18:05 wizzyrea <- is a little slow today 18:06 nengard okay -- manual question for all on the chanel - should we have 2 manuals - one for useage and one for sys admin stuff? right now it's all in one manual - which i'm fine with - but i'm just wondering if we want 2 18:06 nengard let the debating begin 18:07 chris i like 1 18:08 chris otherwise you are gonna have to check 2 places everytime you arent sure 18:13 wizzyrea chris++ 1 manual please 18:16 * chris_n votes for 1 18:17 * owen too 18:19 * owen is off 18:19 owen Merry Christmas everyone 18:31 nengard okay - adding it all to the one manual - 18:31 nengard hubby home - time for a break - be back later 19:42 zico hi 19:42 zico i just need an idea regarding koha-3.0.5 19:43 zico i want to add "New arrival" in my opac 19:43 zico there... that "New Arrival" will just show the new arrivaled book`s image... say .. only 5 images 19:43 zico how can i do that? 19:45 wizzyrea http://www.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/node/624 19:46 rhcl Cool. Pretty nice of ACLOU. 19:46 wizzyrea something like that zico? 19:52 zico wizzyrea: yep! xactly like this. :) 19:52 jwagner zico, jdavidb has worked on a feature for a new books list, not exactly like owen's, but controlled by sysprefs. With luck he can get that one pushed out fairly soon. 19:54 zico jwagner: is jdavidb here? 19:54 jwagner No, he's on vacation this week. 19:57 wizzyrea and a well deserved one at that 19:58 jwagner He was trying to sneak in and do some work this morning, but I growled at him. 19:59 wizzyrea good girl jwagner! 19:59 jwagner Doing it via chat doesn't have quite the emphasis of in-person looking-over-the-top-of-the-glasses, but it seems to work. 20:00 Ian hi folks, quick question: does the dev version of Koha work with MySQL 5.2? 20:02 zico ok.. guys.. i will check this tomorrow...and let you know... :) 20:03 zico need some sleep now! 20:21 wizzyrea Ian: afaik, dev koha works exactly the same as tarball koha in that regard 20:21 wizzyrea so if tarball koha works, dev should too. 20:54 * wizzyrea loves low hanging fruit 20:56 Ian thanks wizzyrea 21:00 moodaepo @wunder 56001 21:00 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -3.1�C (2:58 PM CST on December 23, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon CST today... 21:22 wizzyrea hahaha http://www.osnews.com/images/comics/wtfm.jpg 21:22 wizzyrea it's really too bad chris isn't here lol 21:28 * jwagner chortles 21:28 jwagner I think a LOT of people would appreciate that one. 21:30 jwagner In fact, I just sent it to a couple of them.... 21:40 * chris_n heads out to find food and become chris_n2 21:53 IrmaCalyx Good morning all... 21:56 wizzyrea morning IrmaCalyx 22:05 cait hi #koha 22:05 rhcl Hi cait! 22:06 cait hi rhcl :) 22:07 cait zico around? 22:10 wizzyrea newp, he's gone 22:10 wizzyrea cait: I think I answered his question to the list, but I"m not sure 22:10 wizzyrea if I understood it correctly 22:10 cait hi liz 22:10 wizzyrea heya 22:10 wizzyrea :) 22:10 cait I wrote him the same... some days ago 22:11 wizzyrea lulz 22:11 wizzyrea oi 22:11 cait I m a little confused why he wrote to the mailing list again 22:12 wizzyrea his english may not be very good, he may not be understanding 22:12 wizzyrea hard to say 22:12 wizzyrea we'll get him sorted out eventually 22:13 cait thx for answering him :) and I need to tell him, Im not a he ;) 22:13 wizzyrea hee :) 22:14 wizzyrea well peeps, I may check in now and again over the long weekend, but if I don't talk to you, have a merry and safe holiday 22:14 wizzyrea I'm out, ttyl 22:15 cait oh now she is gone :) 22:16 cait @tell wizzyrea you were too fast for my typing - merry holidays to you too! 22:16 munin cait: Error: I haven't seen wizzyrea, I'll let you do the telling. 22:16 cait @later wizzyrea you were too fast for my typing - merry holidays to you too! 22:16 munin cait: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "wizzyrea" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. 22:16 cait @list later 22:16 munin cait: notes and tell 22:17 cait list later 22:17 cait hm 22:17 cait difficult 22:18 cait @later 22:18 munin cait: Error: "later" is not a valid command. 22:19 * cait gives up 22:19 cait merry christmas #koha :)