Time Nick Message 01:36 pianohacker Good night, #koha 03:25 Nate ...and to all a good night 03:38 chris_n evening #koha 03:46 Amit heya brendan, chris 03:50 chris_n hey Amit 03:50 Amit heya chris_n 04:53 brendan hi amit 04:55 * chris_n drags off to bed 05:43 Amit heya indradg 05:44 indradg morning Amit 06:57 Ropuch Morning #koha 06:59 Ropuch Wow, 21 unread messages in koha-patches 07:10 Amit heya Ropuch, nicomo 07:10 Ropuch Hi Amit 08:36 hdl_laptop chris around ? 09:28 magnusenger @wunder bodo, norway 09:28 munin magnusenger: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0�C (10:20 AM CET on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Steady). 09:28 magnusenger brrr... 09:28 paul_p @wunder Marseille, fr 09:29 munin paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 14.0�C (10:00 AM CET on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 09:29 paul_p magnusenger: there is probably a plane from norway to Marseille ;-) 09:29 paul_p and we have a spare office in our office 09:29 magnusenger paul_p hmmm... ;-) 09:30 Ropuch hehe 09:30 paul_p Ropuch: there are *2* spare chairs in fact ;-) 09:30 paul_p 'morning Europa !!! 09:31 Ropuch Hi paul_p [; 09:34 magnusenger as long as your office has a fireplace and lots of dogs it's not that bad, actually... 09:35 paul_p lots of dogs ??? 09:39 magnusenger i have 3, which is nice... 09:40 Ropuch magnusenger: where do you live in Norway? 09:41 magnusenger Ropuch: Bodø, just above the Arctic Circle 09:44 Ropuch I'm not sure if I've been there 09:44 magnusenger Ropuch: it's the kind of place you pass through... 09:45 Ropuch I think we passed through/near Bodo on trip to Lofoten 09:46 Ropuch (after 1,5 month offroad Norway Lofoten wasn't that great thouh ;-) 09:47 magnusenger Ropuch: nice! yes, that sounds about right - you could have taken a ferry to moskenes (perhaps by way of Røst and Værøy) or the coastal steamer to Stamsund or Svolvær 09:47 magnusenger oh, blasé! 09:48 Ropuch It was geeat trip, I must admit 09:48 magnusenger i should certainly think so! ;-) 09:49 Ropuch We came to Norway to make some money, worked for 7-8 days only, but were able to live and travel through Norway for 6 weeks 09:49 magnusenger hehe, nice! 09:49 Ropuch Yup 09:50 magnusenger next time you must stop by me and say hello! ;-) 09:50 Ropuch The people I went with could not appreciate the rare opportunity to see Norway, maybe the one and only time in their lives 09:50 Ropuch MONEY! 09:50 Ropuch magnusenger: I sure will 09:51 magnusenger shame on them! ;-) 09:51 Ropuch I think I browse through pictures from that time when i get back home 09:51 Ropuch And try to recreate our journey 09:52 Ropuch The funny think i was the oldest among them 09:52 Ropuch So they were supoosed to just enjoy the trip 09:52 magnusenger old and wise, eh? 09:53 Ropuch I remeber first man we're worked for, ex-policeman near Gjovik, about 3km from dgo training area 09:53 Ropuch s/dgo/dog's 09:53 Ropuch Really nice guy, he lend us his waggon 09:55 Ropuch Uh, I'll save memories for evening, back to work :) 09:58 magnusenger good luck! i'm sneaking out to stock up on xmas foodstuffs! 10:20 zico hello everyone 10:20 zico hi 10:23 hdl_laptop hi zico 10:24 zico hi hdl_laptop :) 10:24 zico i tried with http://192.168.1.15:8080/cgi-bin/koha/labels/label-item-search.pl 10:24 zico it works 10:25 zico but.. if i click on "Add item(s) to batch" ... its then not working 10:53 zico is there any solution for this problem? 10:57 crackjack hello all 10:57 crackjack I have a problem in redirecting koha error 10:58 crackjack can I redirect a koha error to a standard koha pagae 11:04 hdl_laptop zico: I don't have any problem. are you using internet explorer ? 11:05 zico hdl_laptop: basically i am using firefox... but.. i also tried with internet explorer 11:06 hdl_laptop Do you have DebugLevel set to something ? 11:06 hdl_laptop Is there any logs we could investiguate ? 11:11 zico hdl_laptop: do you want to see the koha log file? 11:19 Ropuch Henri-Damien is hard worker considering amoutn of patchees he sent in past 12 hours 11:20 Ropuch Hi hdl_laptop, zico 11:22 hdl_laptop Ropuch: if you look at authors, you will see most of them are not mine 11:23 hdl_laptop zico: use pastebin 11:25 Ropuch hdl_laptop: I browsed some random digests and saw only patches with your name :) 11:25 Ropuch Lucky random maybe 11:27 zico hdl_laptop: do you want /var/log/koha/koha-error_log ? 11:28 hdl_laptop yes only with the page calling labels 11:32 zico hdl_laptop: i cannot see anything regarding label printing there!!! 11:33 hdl_laptop So no error 11:33 hdl_laptop ... 11:33 hdl_laptop quite embarassing indeed 11:33 zico yea 11:33 zico ;( 11:33 Ropuch Hm 11:34 zico if i put... http://192.168.1.15:8080/cgi-bin/koha/labels/label-item-search.pl 11:34 zico it comes!!! 11:34 zico :( 11:35 hdl_laptop what comes ? 11:35 Ropuch Try to look into firefox Tools>Console 11:36 Ropuch zico: are you working with english versioan of staff client? 11:37 Ropuch I had some problem once due to broken .po (I've messed with <a1></a>) 11:41 zico by the way... another problem 11:42 zico when i tries to reserve any book ... some koha error comes 11:42 Ropuch Do you have some custom changes in your koha code? Maybe dumping database & clean install of 3.0.5 a 11:42 zico say. i am inserting.... "place hold" ... nd.. the error comes 11:43 zico The following fatal error has occurred: Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Reserves.pm line 183. 11:43 zico Ropuch: i will download the whole koha from git... let`s see if anything changes 11:43 zico now... how about this error? "The following fatal error has occurred: Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Reserves.pm line 183." 11:43 zico do i need to install something from cpan? 11:45 zico i googled for this... but. didn`t find anything 11:50 zico ok..done!! it is ok 11:50 zico if i login as "root"..... then.. i cannot hold anything 11:50 zico thank you guys 11:50 zico i am going to download koha from git... and going to let you know about this! :) 12:01 nengard hdl_laptop around? 12:02 hdl_laptop oui 12:02 nengard actually anyone who knows git can help me - how do i send multiple patches like hdl does :) 12:02 nengard hiya hdl :) 12:02 nengard I just wanted to know how to email multiple patches - I've always done them one at a time 12:03 nengard but now i see you told me that already 12:03 nengard i'm sorry - it's early here :) 12:04 nengard hdl_laptop using the line you gave me "git send-email --to henridamien.laurent@biblibre.com --smtp-server patches_for_henri" says i haven't picked any patches to send 12:04 nengard but that folder has several patches in it 12:05 hdl_laptop --smtp-server you can remove 12:05 hdl_laptop should work better without. 12:05 Ropuch nengard: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage 12:05 Ropuch Pargraph: If you are doing a patch of a bunch of file moves or deletes: 12:05 hdl_laptop It is just that I need always to set that param. 12:05 nengard ahhh 12:05 hdl_laptop --smtp-server smtp.google.fr 12:05 nengard will give it a whirl 12:05 hdl_laptop --smtp-server smtp.nerim.fr 12:06 nengard hdl_laptop - patches on their way to you!! 12:06 nengard thanks that was a nice learning experience!! 12:08 nengard now - should i write future patches against this branch? Or back against my HEAD branch? 12:11 Ropuch Good question 12:11 Ropuch well, guess I'll look into biblibre branch [; 12:44 slef "Gale, part of Cengage Learning, announced that Stephen Abram is joining the company as vice president of strategic partnerships and markets." http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=14430 12:45 slef yes, that's the sort of person we want supplying learning solutions :-/ 12:45 slef koha blogs page currently down - working on restoring it 13:07 jwagner hdl_laptop is flooding my inbox :-) 13:16 hdl_laptop jwagner: ;) 13:19 jwagner I thought you were all on vacation. 13:20 Ropuch ;> 13:38 paul_p jwagner: nope, this week we all are here (except friday). Next week will be very quiet though... 13:40 jwagner Probably here too. 13:54 * chris_n wonders if the "problems" with the label item search might rather be java problems in the user's browser 14:02 Ropuch chris_n: I adviced him to check js console in ff 14:07 jwagner Question about match points & indexes -- one of my sites needs to put a local identifier number into the MARC record to use as a match point for later loads. Ordinarily I'd use the 035, but as jdavidb pointed out :-( there are problems with indexing it as a local number. What about the 024? The default index setup shows that as being indexed as Identifier-other (subfield a) or Identifier-standard (whole field). 14:07 chris_n Ropuch: I think that's good advice at this point 14:25 hdl_laptop jwagner: why not a local field ? 14:26 hdl_laptop kind of 09X ? 14:28 nengard AHHHHHH - Okay - screaming done - sorry - will try very very very hard to keep the holiday spirit in mind and not call people idiots 14:28 nengard not you all of course - but people on my blog 14:28 jwagner hdl_laptop, I was hoping to find something already indexed, not have to set something up. 14:29 jwagner LC says the 024 is Other Standard Identifier, so I thought it might work. 14:30 owen nengard: Still going on? 14:30 nengard uh huh 14:41 owen What is the significance of the variable name I see often in Koha javascript: "ong" 14:48 paul_p owen: I suspect it's a frenchism (my fault). In french "onglet" means "tab", and ong is probably a shortcut for it. 14:48 owen I figured it must be something like that. I don't have any objection to it, I was just curious. 14:53 chris_n nengard: remember there's an idiot born every minute :-) 14:53 nengard bleh - drives me crazy 15:36 wizzyrea nengard: oi vey 15:36 wizzyrea and good morning. 15:36 wizzyrea :) 15:36 nengard uh huh 15:40 wizzyrea oi, average 1998 10 year old could beat 95% of kids in 2008 in running tests :( 15:40 wizzyrea that's probably not a good sign 15:49 rhcl @seen kyle 15:49 munin rhcl: kyle was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, 42 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <kyle> A late thought, instead of having a version number battle, why not move to a date based versioning system like Ubuntu? Koha 9.12? 15:56 owen nengard: Have you seen this? http://browsersize.googlelabs.com/ 15:56 * owen just ran across it 15:57 nengard yeah owen 15:57 nengard it was mentioned in a few blogs i read yesterday 16:05 * owen has just about battered Bug 3375 into submission 16:05 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3375 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, RESOLVED INVALID, Catalog statistics wizards not pulling from item 16:07 owen http://zivotdesign.com/examples/opac-full-serial-issues.png 16:09 wizzyrea lulz love that from gmcharlt: Wrong version of Koha; not issue in HEAD. SNAP. 16:10 chrisd Hi All 16:10 chris_n hey... another chris ;-) 16:10 wizzyrea heh @kohalibrary.com. Well of course it's not the right version, it's not koha :P 16:10 chrisd I've been trying to get zebra up and running for weeks now and have been unsuccessful 16:10 chrisd I'm running debian lenny on koha 3.00.02 16:10 * chris_n welcomes chrisd to the zebra club 16:10 * wizzyrea welcomes chrisd into the welcoming arms of the zebra club 16:10 wizzyrea JINX 16:10 owen Sorry wizzyrea, wrong bug: Bug 3376 16:10 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3376 trivial, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, ASSIGNED, Serials Display in OPAC 16:10 wizzyrea but it was still funny :) 16:11 chrisd I can import a record but it's not showing up 16:11 * chris_n cheers owen on 16:11 wizzyrea Ah have you run the indexing jobs? 16:11 chrisd I've set up crontab 16:11 chris_n wizzyrea++ # for being faster on the keyboard 16:11 chrisd How can I tell if the indexing jobs are working 16:11 chris_n chrisd: have you run rebuild_zebra.pl 16:12 chrisd I think but not sure. what is the command 16:12 chris_n you should 'su koha' 16:12 chrisd ok 16:12 chris_n then run rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v 16:12 chris_n and note any errors, etc. 16:12 wizzyrea man, we really ought to make this session a concise guide 16:12 chris_n hopefully there are none 16:12 chris_n I agree there 16:12 chrisd command not found 16:13 chris_n chrisd: what kind of install did you do? ie. tarball, git, etc 16:13 chrisd do I need to include /usr/share/koha 16:13 chrisd tarball 16:13 * wizzyrea is reeling from all of the chris's 16:13 chris_n hehe 16:14 chris_n chrisd: the script is located in the migration_tools subdir 16:14 chris_n and you will probably need to 'export PERL5LIB=path/to/koha/C4/' 16:14 chrisd ok i'm a newbie here ...so i need to be in that folder to run it 16:14 * chris_owen mocks your IRC client's tab completion 16:14 chris_n and 'export KOHACONF=/path/to/koha/koha-conf.xml' 16:14 chris_n chrisd: correct 16:14 chris_n lol owen 16:15 chris_n chrisd: I'm not exactly sure where that ends up in a tarball installation 16:16 chrisd chrisn: i'm in the migration_tools folder and run the rebuild_zebra.pl and it still says command not found 16:16 chris_n hmm 16:16 wizzyrea um, perl rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v 16:16 wizzyrea ? 16:16 chris_n right 16:17 wizzyrea ^.^ 16:17 chrisd ok 16:17 chris_n sorry 16:17 chrisd "can't locate C$/Context.PM 16:17 chrisd oops C4 16:17 * chris_n finds it a bit scary that he thinks with perl as his frame of reference at times 16:17 * wizzyrea pats chris_n "it's ok chum. It all runs together sometimes." 16:18 chris_n chrisd: that's where you need the export commands above 16:18 chrisd ok 16:18 chris_n you'll have to modify for your pathing 16:18 wizzyrea Ah, yes, it definitely sounds like your problem is related to your indexing jobs not running, so we solve these problems, you'll be ready to rock :D 16:18 chris_n perl make_coffee.pl 16:18 chrisd ok I think it's in /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 16:18 chris_n perl fix_breakfast.pl 16:18 chrisd I'll look 16:19 chris_n chrisd: sounds correct 16:19 chris_n perl write_more_code.pl 16:20 chrisd ran export KOHACONG=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml now i'm trying to run the rebuild_zebra.pl 16:20 chris_n chrisd: that's KOHACONF 16:21 chris_n and you will also have to set PERL5LIB as well to point to C4 16:21 wizzyrea KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's 16:21 chrisd oops mistype here but I did it correct on the server 16:21 wizzyrea welp, I think we've found the new name 16:21 wizzyrea my work here is done 16:21 * chris_n remembers when he struggled to remember those two env vars 16:21 chris_n hehe 16:22 chris_n @quote add wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's 16:22 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded. Quote #49 added. 16:23 chrisd Still go the can't find c4 error I'll set the PERL5LIB which I think is /usr/share/koha/lib/ is this right? 16:24 wizzyrea ah, I think just /usr/share/koha 16:24 wizzyrea it knows the lib/C4 bit 16:24 wizzyrea iirc 16:26 chrisd Just ran "export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/ I'll try to run rebuild_zebra.pl 16:26 wizzyrea chrisd: don't feel bad, I still struggle with this bit 16:26 wizzyrea :) 16:26 chris_n chrisd: PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ 16:26 owen I still don't know how I managed to get the zebra daemon working on my Ubuntu install but not my Debian install. 16:26 chrisd chris_n: I'll re-export 16:27 chris_n chrisd: you may want to add those to your .bashrc so they export automagically when you open a shell prompt 16:27 chris_n owen has a dead zebra 8-O 16:29 chrisd Still can't locate C4 16:29 chrisd I ran export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ 16:30 chrisd as the koha user 16:31 chris_n and we are sure the path to C4 is correct? 16:31 chris you dont need C4 there 16:31 Colin PERL5LIB needs to refer to the directory above C4 not C4 itself 16:31 chris yeah what he said :) 16:31 chris_n opps, my bad 16:31 chrisd so just export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ 16:31 chrisd no problem 16:31 chrisd :-) 16:32 * chris_n goes off to do penance 16:32 chris_n g'morning chris 16:32 owen Ah good, all chrises present and accounted for. 16:32 chris heh 16:33 Colin is there a collective noun? 16:33 wizzyrea the chris contingent? 16:33 chris_n the real problem is trying to decide which instance of the chris method you are referring to 16:34 chris_n or maybe that should be which chris object 16:34 * wizzyrea gets out the comedy drum set 16:34 * chris_n checks to see if today is Friday 16:34 wizzyrea lol, sorry, I'll stay on task 16:34 nengard chris_n - not here it's not 16:35 chrisd It looks like it ran, but still not showing up in the catalog 16:35 chris_n chrisd: did you see any errrors in the output? 16:35 chrisd i'll check 16:36 chris_n you can post pertinent portions to paste.workbuffer.org 16:37 wizzyrea you do have zebra turned on in the sysprefs, correct? 16:37 wizzyrea (just making sure) 16:37 pastebot "chrisd" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "koha@debian:/usr/share/koha/bi" (67 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/93 16:38 chrisd wizzyrea: Yes we have zebra turned on in the sysprefs 16:38 wizzyrea cool beans 16:39 chris http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=14432 16:39 chris incolsa are koha users ... so i wonder what will happen here 16:39 chris (were liblime ... now ptfs .. so koha not lek users) 16:39 chrisd zebra 10 chrisd 0 16:40 chris_n chrisd: output looks ok 16:40 chris_n you have one bib 16:40 chris_n I assume it has an item attached? 16:40 chrisd weird. Yes 1 bib 16:40 chrisd Yes it has an item 16:40 chrisd shoud I reimport? 16:42 chris does http://your.opac/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1 work (substituting a real address for your.opac) 16:43 chrisd yeah that works. 16:43 chrisd weird 16:44 Colin Any sign of an error in zebrasrv's log 16:45 chrisd Colin: where is the log? 16:46 Colin Now youre asking /var/log/zebra-log unless you're a dev install 16:47 chrisd It's not there. I have a /var/log/koha folder 16:48 Colin or /var/log/koha/zebra-log 16:48 chrisd no zebra-log 16:48 chrisd we do have a koha-zebraqueue-output.log 16:50 chris_n chrisd: how about koha-zebradaemon.err? 16:51 chrisd yes, have that too. 16:51 chris_n maybe check that one 16:51 chris_n chrisd: so a search on a keyword returns no records? 16:52 chrisd chris_n: you're right. It returns no records 16:52 chris and zebra is definitely running? 16:52 * chris_n considers the need of someone writing "The Care and Feeding of a Zebra" 16:53 chrisd How can I tell if zebra is running? 16:53 chris_n chrisd: 'ps -ef | grep zebra' 16:53 Colin_ In the script that starts zebra you can add -l logfile_name_and_location to the zebrasrv and get it to log 16:55 pastebot "chrisd" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "koha@debian:/$ ps -ef|grep zeb" (6 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/94 16:55 chrisd Colin: so by default it doesn't log? 16:56 chrisd chrisd = totalzebranoob 16:58 Colin_ no (but when it logs it logs lots) 16:59 Colin Is there a /usr/bin/zebrasrv on the system??? 17:00 chrisd Colin: yes 17:00 Colin ok - just thought it best to check. How are you starting it 17:01 chrisd Starting zebra? I thought it was running... 17:01 chrisd I followed the debian install instructions so I think it's started 17:02 pastebot "rhcl" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "test" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/95 17:03 Colin Its not running according to your ps -ef. Try restarting the zebrasrv daemon 17:03 rhcl rhcl was wondering how paste was picking up somebody's internal IP address. Seems to be that server's IP... 17:04 chris yes it is 17:04 chris its because im doing some mod_proxying 17:04 chrisd Colin: do i use the commmand - sudo /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start 17:04 chris which is confusing the paste bot 17:04 Colin yes 17:04 zico hi! 17:04 zico thank you guys.... my "label printing" problem is ok now!!! 17:05 zico i downloded koha from git now 17:05 zico :) 17:05 zico itz ok now 17:05 zico thanks...thanks a lot.... chris... hdl_laptop.... Ropuch... chris_n... munin.... for your help 17:05 zico :) 17:06 hdl_laptop cool 17:06 Colin chrisd: Isn't that sudo -u koha /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start 17:06 hdl_laptop very glad for you 17:06 Colin so that it runs as koha ( not root) 17:06 chris_n zico: congrats! 17:07 chrisd Colin: I ran it and it went back to the prompt so I guess it ran? 17:08 Colin you should see it now if you ps -ef | grep zeb 17:08 zico by the way... i am getting a error 17:08 pastebot "chrisd" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "koha@debian:/$ ps -ef | grep z" (7 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/96 17:08 zico when i go to delete anything... it shows.... error 17:10 Colin zebrasrv is not running 17:11 chrisd colin: so when I told it to start it didn't? 17:12 chrisd i'm stumped 17:12 Colin no. check your koha-zebra-ctl.sh command 17:13 chrisd I'm running the command sudo -u koha /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start -- as root 17:14 chrisd Is this right? 17:16 Colin if you are root run the same command without sudo -u koha 17:16 chris im betting its a path thing in koha-zebra-ctl.sh itself 17:17 Colin You may get good odds for that bet 17:19 chris try sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 17:19 chris to see if we can start zebra by hand, if so, then we just need to track down the error in the .sh script 17:21 chrisd I'm runnning " sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" and waiting on the output 17:22 chris cool 17:22 chris now leave it running and try a search 17:22 paul_p chrisd ? another chris ? we already have chris, chris_n, chrisd. 24 to go and we have all chris's we can have :D 17:22 chris (in koha) 17:22 nengard hey all - i turned on XSLTDetailsDisplay and now i get the erorr in the staff client when i try to view bib detail -- Could not create file parser context for file "/home/nengard/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl": No such file or directory at /home/nengard/kohaclone/C4/XSLT.pm line 156 17:22 nengard ideas? 17:22 paul_p (hello everybody) 17:22 jwagner Maybe we can set up some aliases for all the chris variations :-) 17:23 owen nengard: There's a pending patch for that 17:23 paul_p nengard: the MARC21 XSLT is pending 17:23 nengard ah - great thanks owen 17:23 brendan nengard - that file hasn't made it 17:23 paul_p @seen gmcharlt 17:23 munin paul_p: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 3 hours, and 46 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> Ropuch: that's fine 17:23 chrisd chris: The search works. The record came up 17:23 chris_n variations on a theme of chris... hehe 17:23 gmcharlt hi paul_p 17:23 paul_p galen ! hello !!! 17:23 Colin If they're an array of chris's we could number them 17:23 chris_n hi galen! 17:23 nengard hi gmcharlt 17:23 chris chrisd: cool, so yep its just that .sh script that is wrong then 17:23 brendan heya gmcharlt 17:23 paul_p gmcharlt: did hdl_laptop told you we have a 32_community branch with all sent patches applied ? 17:24 paul_p (on git.biblibre.com) 17:24 chris you can ctrl-c to stop your zebrasrv 17:24 chris then can you run 17:24 chris which zebrasrv 17:25 chris then open /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh in a text editor 17:25 chris and check it has the right path to zebrasrv 17:25 gmcharlt paul_p: cool, I'll check it out 17:25 chrisd ran it and got /usr/bin/zebrasrv 17:25 paul_p (maybe he missed some, you should check) 17:27 pastebot "chrisd" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "debian:/usr/share/koha/bin# na" (22 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/97 17:29 chrisd chris: I'm guessing I need to change ZEBRASRV=/zebrasrv to ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv 17:29 chris indeed you do 17:30 nengard paul_p gmcharlt yes, some were missed, but i thought it was because hdl just did a certain time range of patches 17:30 paul_p kudos to nicomo that just submitted his 1st patch ! 17:30 nengard Woo Hoo!! 17:30 paul_p chris: is he the 100th commiter by chance ? 17:31 paul_p (just a spelling one, but now he knows how to create & send & deal with patches) 17:31 nicomo eh eh 17:31 nicomo thanks paul_p 17:31 nicomo a spelling mistake correction 17:31 jwagner Congrats nicomo 17:31 nicomo let's start slowly 17:31 nicomo thanks jwagner 17:32 hdl_laptop hi 17:32 chris 99 17:32 chrisd Chris: Ok. Now should I try runnning "sudo /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start ? 17:32 chris sudo -u koha 17:32 nicomo chris: a nice number, I'll settle for that 17:32 chris and yep 17:32 chris nicomo: (it actually depends when the patch is pushed ) 17:33 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: you have 3.2_community with patches coming from outside biblibre 17:33 chrisd chris: I got "starting zebra server. This is good 17:34 chrisd Where do i go from here? 17:34 hdl_laptop And merge_master_community which merges our work with community 17:34 chris chrisd: try a search in koha again 17:35 chrisd It came up 17:35 chris awesome 17:35 chris_n cool 17:35 chrisd awesome. :-) 17:35 chris so all you need to do now is set up the cronjob to run rebuild_zebra.pl at regular intervals 17:36 chris_n and so... another zebra is born 17:36 chris and you are set 17:36 * chris_n ducks behind his desk 17:36 chrisd Cool. So if I restart the server I need to run sudo /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start to start zebra 17:37 chris you are running debian? 17:37 chrisd Yes, debian 17:38 chris $ sudo ln -s ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon 17:38 chris (Note: ${SCRIPT_DIR} is /usr/share/koha/bin/ by default in a standard install) 17:38 chris $ sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults 17:38 chris doing that will make it start on reboot automagically 17:39 chrisd do I need to -u koha 17:39 paul_p time for family time. Bye #koha & see you tomorrow (my) morning ! 17:40 chris chrisd: not for that command no 17:41 chris paul_p: cya 17:41 jwagner Bye paul_p 17:42 nicomo ok, having boasted on FB about my 1st koha patch already, I'll do as paul_p and enjoy some family time now 17:42 nicomo see you all later 17:42 jwagner By nicomo 17:42 jwagner er, Bye nicomo 17:42 chrisd chris: I already had thhos links created ... I should need to recreate them should i? 17:43 chrisd opps I shouldn't need to recreate them should I? 17:44 chris nope 17:44 chris try this 17:45 chris sudo /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh stop 17:45 chris then 17:45 chris sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start 17:46 chrisd Chris: Awesome... It stopped and started. Very cool. Thank you so much. 17:47 chrisd chris: I'm curious though why I needed to change the ZEBRASRV variable in koha-zebra-ctl.sh .. . .. do you think I did something wrong during install 17:47 chris did you have zebra installed before you ran the make, make install parts? 17:47 chris it sets the path at that point, and if it cant find zebrasrv .. drops to /zebrasrv 17:48 chrisd yeah, I followed the debian install instructions. Oh well. I'll know next time. 17:48 chrisd chris: Thank you so much for the help 17:49 chrisd To everyone who helped THANK YOU SO MUCH 17:49 chrisd Hopefully i'll see some of you at the code4lib preconference 17:50 chris not me, unless you send a ticket to nz 17:50 chris :) 17:50 chrisd :-) 17:51 owen Bug 3536 17:51 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt 17:51 owen I am alarmed by this bug. 17:53 jwagner owen, this is checking something in through circulation, checkin, correct? 17:53 owen Yes 17:54 owen I'm also confused about what the AutomaticItemReturn system preference does 17:54 owen It says "If ON, Koha will automatically set up a transfer of this item to its homebranch" 17:54 owen But that doesn't seem to be happening 17:55 owen If the AutomaticItemReturn preference were working, wouldn't a line get added to the branchtransfers table every time I checked in an item from a different branch? 18:00 chris it should owen 18:01 owen I don't think it does so if the checkin happens when the item is not checked out 18:03 owen Ugh, this bug make me want to tear my hair out. I can't seem to pin down consistent behavior! 18:03 * owen had better get some lunch before getting in any deeper 18:03 chris yes, that is a bug 18:04 chris we need to change the way it handles returning of non issued items 18:04 chris it needs to do everything but return them ... at the moment it bails out way to soon 18:06 chris (ie it needs to do a transfer if needed, mark it seen, etc .. but just not edit the issues table) 18:06 chris at the moment it goes not issued, i wont do anything 18:06 chris which is not how it used to work 18:29 nengard got a transfers question - i'm on /circ/transferstoreceive.pl and under the Date of transfer it says 'check this transfer' -- um what's that support to be? 18:30 chris no idea 18:30 nengard chris you are so very helpful :) hehe 18:30 nengard wondering if i should report a bug and say this needs to be formatter clearer 18:31 nengard or formatted 18:33 wizzyrea interesting nengard, that appears to be newish 18:33 nengard that's what i thought 18:33 nengard i don't remember it being there before 18:33 nengard i'm going to put a low level bug in - hopefully someone will know what it's supposed to say or do and will fix it 18:35 wizzyrea it's probably supposed to be "check in this transfer" 18:36 wizzyrea but that's a total guess 18:36 wizzyrea or check-in this transfer 18:36 wizzyrea or checkin this transfer 18:36 wizzyrea lord 18:37 nengard i'm thinking that it might be that the transfer has been on its way for so long that you should check 'on' the transfer 18:38 nengard but either way the note needs to be made clearer and placed better 18:40 wizzyrea i'm not sure how you could check on it 18:44 nengard yeah 18:44 nengard i'm confused 18:44 nengard hence he bug 18:44 nengard hence the bug 18:47 brendan chris - how was avatar? 18:47 SelfishMan_ Where does koha stand with ncip support? 18:48 brendan not sure if anyone has gotten ncip support yet - right now I know there is some sip server in koha 18:51 chris wicked cool brendan 18:52 chris i mean it was a hollywood movie .. so the plot was always gonna be a bit lame, but the effects more than made up for that 18:54 SelfishMan_ Avatar was pretty good. I wouldn't say the story was lame but it was predictable 19:00 chris it was predictably lame :-) but way less lame than a lot of other hollywood plots 19:01 brendan I'm hoping to see it on an IMAX - so I'm holding out until we get close to a big one 19:01 chris yeah IMAX or 3D would be my recommendation 19:05 owen chris, any idea when the check-in behavior changed? 19:05 chris lemme see if i can find out 19:06 wizzyrea heh, committer #100 :) 19:06 wizzyrea assuming it gets accepted of course 19:07 owen Sorry wizzyrea, you're already on the committer list. You don't get to be 100 :) 19:07 Ropuch Still hope for me [; 19:07 wizzyrea not me 19:07 wizzyrea our pal Sharon 19:07 Sharon what? huh? 19:07 wizzyrea she wrote it, I just sent it in 19:08 owen Oh I see, hence the attribution 19:08 wizzyrea :) 19:08 Sharon Yes, I even used my rusty coding skills 19:08 chris august and july of this year 19:09 pastebot "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "5593a281 (Galen Charlton 2009-" (7 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/98 19:09 Ropuch Does being accepted into koha-biblibre branch counts as "commit"? ;> 19:10 gmcharlt Ropuch: nope, it gets you most of the way there, though 19:10 Ropuch ;> 19:10 chris looks like galens fixme needs to be implemented :) 19:11 Ropuch I'm more into translation, ixing some trivial typos is as far as i can get 19:12 * owen isn't sure whether to offer gmcharlt additional bribes, or insist on withholding bribes until fixme gets fixed 19:12 wizzyrea lol owen 19:12 Ropuch hehe 19:14 pastebot "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "if ($doreturn and ($branch ne" (13 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/99 19:14 chris also that bit 19:14 richard hi 19:14 chris since it has $doreturn as one of the if conditions 19:14 chris its not going to do a transfer unless it was returned 19:15 chris cos further back it says 19:15 pastebot "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "if ($issue and $issue->{borrow" (10 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/100 19:15 chris so the upshot is, there are 2 conditions where transfers are not done, when they should be 19:17 * chris hopes his random pasting makes some sense 19:25 Sharon Thank you owen for changing the severity of the missing transfer prompt bug. 19:26 owen I've looked at that bug before, but it didn't really sink in until today how serious that is 19:27 Sharon We have mis-labeled items everywhere - current location is wrong, but the status is Available. We find these items when they show up on the wrong library's holds queue (pick list) 19:27 chris owen if you have time 19:27 chris you could add the pastes to the bug 19:27 chris and when ive taken kahu to daycare, i can have a crack at fixing it 19:27 owen The contents of each paste? 19:27 chris yeah that would be sweet 19:27 owen You bet 19:33 wizzyrea SelfishMan_: www.openncip.org 19:33 wizzyrea this was/is a LL project 19:42 chris actually owen 19:42 chris line 1571 of C4/Circulation.pm 19:43 chris try taking this out 19:43 chris $doreturn and 19:43 chris of the if 19:43 chris then try returning an item not on issue, that should trigger a transfer 19:44 chris right now time to dress kids 19:52 SelfishMan_ wizzyrea: thank you 20:13 * owen thinks all budget-managing scripts should be moved from admin to acqui 20:15 owen Permissions for managing budgets are a subset of the acquisition permission 20:15 owen So I'm assuming that if you have granular permissions off then giving someone the acquisition privilege they get budget-managing permission 20:17 jwagner owen, I'd agree. I think Paul or HDL said this was fixed with their new acq stuff, but right now even with independent libraries on staff at one library can see the other library's budgets/funds through the Admin screen. Everything should be grouped under acq and managed according to the permissions set. 20:17 owen jwagner: I'm not sure moving the scripts around would solve that problem: you'd still be able to see other libraries' budgets 20:18 jwagner Sorry, wasn't clear. I'd agitate for adding that separation to what you're proposing. 20:18 owen That seems logical. Is there a bug for it? 20:19 jwagner No, I emailed paul a while back and I'm pretty sure he said it was fixed in his enhancements. Still haven't seen those to check. 20:38 owen jwagner: I see that there is now an option, when editing a budget to "restrict access to none, owner, or library" 20:40 jwagner Good, that sounds like what paul was talking about. 20:47 wizzyrea SelfishMan_: soo, it looks like NCIP hasn't gotten too far :( 20:53 SelfishMan_ wizzyrea: I've heard rumors of working implementations tied to koha. I'll have more access and info in a week but I'm betting it is the same code. 20:55 wizzyrea yes, I can see how that might be possible. 21:00 SelfishMan much better 21:02 hdl_laptop owen : I think I fixed that bug you talked about on koha_biblibre_master 21:02 hdl_laptop or on Univ_Lyon3 21:02 owen The transfer bug? 21:03 hdl_laptop yes. 21:05 hdl_laptop f3a393fe7294abbc53a7c3532d05f4ae7832679b 21:05 hdl_laptop on git.biblibre.com 21:07 chris http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha;a=commit;h=f3a393fe7294abbc53a7c3532d05f4ae7832679b 21:07 chris that one? 21:08 chris doesnt look like it hdl_laptop 21:08 chris i really do think just removing that $doreturn condition on line 1571 21:08 chris will fix it 21:08 chris so im hoping owen can test that 21:09 owen It didn't seem to. Let me try again to make sure. 21:09 chris do you have independent branches on or off? 21:09 hdl_laptop owen bug number ? 21:10 owen Bug 3536 21:10 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt 21:11 chris if you have independent branches on, then also try commenting out line 1466 21:11 owen chris: You're suggesting changing this: if ($doreturn and ($branch ne $hbr) 21:11 owen to this: if (($branch ne $hbr) 21:11 chris yeah that one 21:11 chris and if you are running independentbranches, then also comment out line 1466 21:13 owen chris, I picked an NPL barcode at random, checked it in at APL. Got the transfer prompt. However: 21:14 owen I checked the book out (at APL), and checked it in: No transfer prompt. 21:14 owen Checked it in again: no transfer prompt 21:14 chris i think because it already has a transfer set up for it 21:14 chris lemme check that condition 21:15 owen There is a line in branchtransfers for it: 21:15 owen 17027 | 2009-12-22 16:09:55 | APL | 2009-12-22 16:10:19 | APL | Forced branchtransfer 21:15 owen But the "tobranch" shouldn't be APL, it should be NPL 21:15 owen And why "forced branchtransfer?" 21:16 chris thats the message if you have automaticitemreturns on 21:16 chris if you dont have that on, it should give you an option to transfer or not 21:16 chris if you have it on, it always sets up a transfer 21:16 chris only line 1572 21:16 chris can you put something like 21:17 chris warn "We made it into this if"; 21:17 chris then try the check in again, and see if we actually get inside that condition 21:19 owen Doesn't look like we do 21:19 chris ah ha 21:20 pastebot "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "# check if we have a transfer" (18 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/101 21:20 chris that's it 21:20 chris its setting the $validTransfert 21:21 chris and because the $tobranch is wrong 21:21 chris if ( $tobranch eq $branch ) { 21:21 chris matches 21:22 chris so instead of it saying Wrongtransfer 21:22 chris it updates the datearrived instead 21:22 chris so i think the actual problem seems to be 21:23 chris that the tobranch is being set wrong 21:23 chris (the homebranch of that item is NPL eh?) 21:23 owen Yes 21:23 chris collaborative debugging :-) 21:23 chris ok, so i think we need to figure out why the to is APL not NPL 21:26 chris ModItemTransfer($item->{'itemnumber'}, $branch, $hbr); 21:27 chris my $hbr = $item->{C4::Context->preference("HomeOrHoldingBranch")} || ''; 21:27 chris right 21:28 chris so what is set for HomeOrHoldingBranch ? 21:28 * chris guesses holdingbrnach 21:28 chris spelt right 21:28 owen Yes 21:28 chris there we go 21:28 chris so the way the code stands 21:29 chris its gonna transfer to the items holdingbranch 21:29 chris not its homebranch 21:29 chris because it uses that syspref 21:30 chris this is just a test koha eh? 21:30 owen Yes 21:30 chris if so, try changing it to homebranch 21:30 chris and try your checkin again 21:31 chris now of course thats not the real solution ... because that effects all sorts of other stuff, but i think its what is causing the confusion, it keeps transferring items to the holdingbranch when everyone expects it to do homebranch 21:32 owen Yeah you're right: I get the transfer prompt after switching HomeOrHoldingBranch 21:32 chris affects .. effects i can never remember the right one 21:32 chris cool 21:33 chris well thats the mystery solved, now to figure out a fix 21:34 chris line 1422 is the line 21:34 chris causing all the mystery 21:34 owen Thanks for all the help chris. I've got to run, but leave me instructions if I can do more testing later 21:34 chris will do 23:17 * chris_n2 throws another piece of wood on the fire 23:17 chris_n2 @wunder 29334 23:17 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Rogers Bridge Rd Area, Duncan, South Carolina is 3.3�C (6:14 PM EST on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Rising). 23:17 chris_n2 @wunder 28334 23:17 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 3.0�C (6:00 PM EST on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 23:39 brendan @wunder 93117 23:39 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.4�C (3:34 PM PST on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling). High Wind Warning in effect until 3 am PST Wednesday... 23:39 brendan @wunder 06798 23:39 munin brendan: The current temperature in Washington Woodbury Road, Roxbury, Connecticut is -6.0�C (6:37 PM EST on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Rising).