Time Nick Message 02:06 brendan @wunder 93117 02:06 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.9�C (6:02 PM PST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady). 02:06 brendan looks like we lost the NZ'ers 02:08 russ back now :-) 02:08 brendan hey great :) 03:41 Amit heya brendan, chris 03:42 Amit good morning #koha 04:35 CGI946 i get this error when i try to install koha in fedora; could somebody clarify: Installing /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/README Installing /var/lock/koha/zebradb/authorities/README Installing /var/run/koha/zebradb/README chown: invalid user: `koha:koha' make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 04:36 CGI946 chris could u clarify my earlier query:? 04:39 CGI946 hi if nebody out there could clairfy this error in fedora: chown invalid user koha:koha make :*** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 04:42 CGI946 brendan: could u clarify my earlier post 04:48 Amit hi CGI976 04:48 Amit have u created koha user 04:48 Amit ? 04:51 CGI946 hi amit 04:51 CGI946 yes i have created kohaadmin, koha accounts in mysql 04:51 Amit no create linux user koha 04:52 Amit CGI946: Create linux user koha 04:52 CGI946 oh so there should be a linux user account koha... 04:52 CGI946 ok i shall create.. and should i repeat all the steps logged in as koha in linux?? 04:52 Amit yes 04:53 CGI946 and password should it be koha or anything of my choice... 04:53 Amit as your choice 04:54 CGI946 ok amit i shall create and repeat the steps...ne probs i shall get back.. thanx for the info. 05:23 CGI161 hi amit.. got through that koha ownerhsip error. but then the next command i execute... sudo -ln ... says creating symbolic link `/etc/apache2/sites-available/koha': No such file or directory 05:24 CGI161 shud these directories be created under /etc as root user 05:25 CGI161 somebody could clarify my recent post... 05:53 CGI161 amit there? 05:53 Amit y 05:53 CGI161 hi amit.. got through that koha ownerhsip error. but then the next command i execute... sudo -ln ... says creating symbolic link `/etc/apache2/sites-available/koha': No such file or directory 05:54 CGI161 shud these directories be created under /etc as root user 05:55 CGI161 amit my earlier post did it reahc? 05:57 Amit follow this 05:57 Amit http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=INSTALL.fedora7;h=7393958c8bd409a618de96da415143df9270fbd6;hb=9bebe2e914e839480d59e953165d30ded572cc8b 05:58 Amit chris: we have create live cd of koha on opensuse with zebra 05:58 CGI161 yep i shall go thru that page..... one more clarifiaction, in windows i have been able tos uccessfully install...now how do i login as an administrator from another machine...i am able to access the opac page from client machines....how i do reach the admin page from clinet machines... 05:59 Amit localhost:8080 06:00 CGI161 the ip of machine:8080 would work? 06:03 Amit y 06:03 CGI161 lets say the machine where the software is installed is 15.15.10.25. so to access the admin page should i give http://15.15.10.25:8080...but then there is no response... 06:08 CGI161 i give that localhost:8080 the system hangs with no response in the browser... 06:08 CGI161 but i am able to access the opac pages from other machines... 06:16 CGI161 amit ? 06:27 Amit go to koha-httpd.conf 06:28 Amit file and Listen 8080 port 06:49 CGI161 koa 06:49 CGI161 thanx amit..i shall try that...but i am not able to proceed with my installation in fedora.... 06:51 CGI161 any other good help file for installation in fedora.... for example the command sudo a2enmod does not execute at all... 07:19 Ropuch Morning #koha 07:28 Amit heya ropuch 07:28 Ropuch Hi Amit 07:52 kf morning #koha 07:58 Ropuch guten Tag, kf 07:59 Ropuch http://www.dresden-26-gigapixels.com/dresden26GP 07:59 Ropuch [; 08:09 paul_p2 chris: about ? 08:12 paul_p2 @seen gmcharlt 08:12 munin paul_p2: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 week, 1 day, 17 hours, 49 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> Ropuch: that's fine 08:15 Ropuch Hi paul_p2 08:15 paul_p hi Ropuch, kf, Amit & munin 08:26 Amit hi paul_p, kf 08:27 Amit @wunder Dehradun india 08:27 munin Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 11.0�C (8:30 AM IST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa. 08:27 Ropuch @wunder Wroclaw 08:27 munin Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -14.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -20.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 08:28 nicomo brr 08:28 nicomo @wunder lyon france 08:28 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Lyon, France is -2.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 08:29 Kivutar @wunder marseille france 08:29 munin Kivutar: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 2.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 08:36 Amit heya nicomo 08:36 nicomo hi Amit 08:58 Ropuch kf: what field is used for storing subject heading in german cataloging practice (you told me that once befero) 09:21 kf Ropuch: dresden? 09:21 kf hi paul_p and Amit 09:21 kf @wunder Konstanz 09:21 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.3�C (10:10 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady). 09:22 Ropuch kf: Tateadhe biggest photo in the world ;> 09:31 Amit @wunder Bangalore india 09:31 munin Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 23.0�C (11:30 AM IST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. 09:33 CGI167 amit i am not able to access the koha admin pages from client machines. windows platform. tried http://serverip:8080 it hangs...without response.. 09:33 kf Ropuch: depends, Schlagwortketten (subject chains according to RSWK) are stored in 689, but this is not a good solution for koha 09:33 Amit i think your firewall is on 09:34 CGI167 how do i proceed 09:34 kf Ropuch: we wrote a converter (tested successfully yesterday) to change them from chains to single subject headings in normal MARC21 fields - now facets are working great :) 09:35 CGI167 the start page comes welcome to koha.....and then it hangs.... 09:35 hdl_laptop Kf are you using zebra facets or koha facets ? 09:36 kf hdl_laptop: uh, dont know, the one thats implemented in koha? 09:36 hdl_laptop ok. 09:36 CGI167 amit...i added the line listen 8080 into the conf file and then the welcome to koha 2.2.9 message comes...but then the browser hangs for a while before timing out... 09:37 kf hdl_laptop: but we had a question about facets some time ago - I think the implemented feature works with search strings and zebra facets would work through indexing? 09:39 hdl_laptop implemented feature parses the returned records. 09:40 kf I think zebra facets would be faster? 09:40 hdl_laptop and zebra facets would use zebra indexes. 09:40 hdl_laptop yes and more global 09:41 hdl_laptop But we have a problem with diacritics. 09:41 kf I looked at the code yesterday to find out how facets work, I saw comments about federated search 09:42 kf is it possible to do federated search with koha? with z39.50? 09:47 hdl_laptop kf: it could be/ should be possible. 09:48 hdl_laptop Since whatever z3950 server we connect to, we would have the same queries. 09:48 hdl_laptop What makes problem is displaying details. 09:49 kf do you know somebody who has implemented something like that in his library catalog? 09:49 hdl_laptop Since we donot have a failback on what the server returns. 10:10 imp @wunder hannover germany 10:10 munin imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Wedemark, Germany is -6.3�C (10:59 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling). 10:57 kf @wunder Konstanz 10:57 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.1�C (11:50 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Steady). 10:58 Ropuch @wunder Wroclaw 10:58 munin Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -12.0�C (11:30 AM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). 10:58 kf ;) 11:00 Ropuch glitschig 11:00 Ropuch Kristin just taught me new word 11:01 kf glitschig - nice :) 11:02 kf because everything is wet or frozen? 11:02 Ropuch Frozen 11:03 Ropuch I've found the word flatt 11:03 Ropuch glatt 11:03 Ropuch ;> 11:03 imp how about "rutschig"? 12:53 kf Ropuch: when there is ice on the streets it's "glatt" 12:53 kf rutschig is ok too 13:53 owen nengard++ # for bug-wrangling! 13:53 nengard :) 13:57 owen Weird, this is a new one to me: "Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/* <-- HERE the*/ at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 935." 14:01 owen ...and now it's gone. 14:02 hdl_laptop owen: if you can find the string you were searching for. 14:08 owen Ah, interesting. hdl_laptop: the error happened when I had a space before my search term. 14:09 owen opac-search.pl?q=+book 14:12 hdl_laptop Is that 3.0 or 3.2 ? 14:13 owen head 14:14 jwagner Owen, see Bug 3711 -- I submitted a patch to strip spaces before/after search terms. Dunno if it's made it into head yet. 14:14 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3711 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Intermittent search error in OPAC 14:14 jwagner Is that the same type of error you were having? 14:15 owen It's not a javascript error, it's a show-stopping error. 14:15 owen "Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/* <-- HERE the*/ at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 935." 14:20 nengard so maybe speaking up is just going to make me more and more tired ... there is no easy solution there is there? 14:20 owen jwagner: it doesn't look like your patch ever got approved, but there's no way to know whether it's still a problem until this new bug gets fixed. 14:25 owen Can anyone duplicate the search error I'm getting? 14:26 owen I'd hate to file a big fat blocker bug and find out it was user error. 14:27 nengard owen - happens for me too 14:27 nengard if i have a space before my search term 14:27 owen Okay, filing big fat blocker bug report. 14:27 nengard in opac and staff client 14:27 jwagner I'm not at current head yet, so I can't test. 14:28 owen Who should I assign it to, anyone have any suggestions? 14:28 nengard hmm 14:32 hdl_laptop jwagner: can you link to your patch in bugzilla ? 14:33 hdl_laptop owen: looks like the same issue. 14:33 jwagner ? Bug 3711 14:33 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3711 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Intermittent search error in OPAC 14:33 owen hdl_laptop: jwagner's error was a javascript error. 14:36 owen Bug 3955 14:36 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3955 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Searching fails if there is a space before your search term 14:36 collum I got the same error in both PAC and Staff search. 14:45 CGI213 good morning 14:45 CGI213 is this a german chat room? 14:46 kf hi CGI213 14:46 CGI213 schuster tomascohen owen nate 14:46 CGI213 hello 14:46 kf this chat room is English, but Im German 14:46 CGI213 ummm.... i was asked to find out this, "Sarah ~ Please call and find out when the upgrade for KOHA will become an approved release." 14:46 CGI213 i see 14:46 Nate Hi! 14:46 tomascohen hi 14:47 CGI213 hello 14:47 CGI213 Guten.... morgen! 14:47 tomascohen hola che 14:47 schuster Howdy! from Texas with a Minnesota drawl. 14:48 CGI213 minnesota is more like a pinch than a drawl :) 14:50 CGI213 so does anyone know anything about the uprade release of Koha? 14:50 kf CGI213 where are you from? 14:50 schuster approved release? Well sometime in the spring would be my guess. I know there are people "testing" 3.2 kinda pre alpha even at this point. I believe Galen talked about a "Beta" in January. 14:51 CGI213 Atlanta 14:52 CGI213 thank you for the fyi about the upgrade 14:52 owen CGI213: Do you run your own Koha installation? 14:52 kf ah 14:52 kf I thought perhaps from Germany, because of your question 14:54 CGI213 not germany, i don't run the installation, the IT company I work for maintains the Koha server at a local university and they asked me to find out when the new upgrade is coming out. 14:55 imp but how is this related to german? :D 14:55 owen CGI213: I'm surprised your IT company doesn't keep tabs on it themselves. 14:57 tirabo @wunder Cordoba, Argentina 14:58 munin tirabo: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 28.0�C (11:00 AM ART on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 14:58 tirabo @bgkriegel 14:58 munin tirabo: Error: "bgkriegel" is not a valid command. 14:59 tirabo @seen bgkriegel 14:59 munin tirabo: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 1 day, 17 hours, 37 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> tirabo: hi 15:12 schuster owen you online? 15:12 owen Yes 15:13 schuster What version of FF are you using? 15:13 owen 3.5.6 15:13 schuster I'm still trying to figure out why my Add item/edit item forms don't print the data inthe fields. 15:13 schuster Ah... I'm on 3.0.11 so that might be part of it. 15:14 schuster hmmm how to get the district to update FF on 40,000 computers... 15:14 owen schuster: Do you have a computer you can try FF 3.5.6 on? At least then you'd know for sure whether that was really the problem. 15:15 schuster That's what I'm trying to figure out. thanks 15:21 owen nengard still around? 15:23 nengard yup 15:23 nengard patching and documenting 15:23 owen Is there a difference between a "vendor" and a "supplier," and if not which is the best term to standardize on? 15:24 kf I think there are is also bookseller in new acq 15:25 owen That's right kf I knew there was a third 15:25 owen Anyone else have a vote? 15:25 imp imho a vendor is "someone" who produces the thing, a supplier may only sell the things a vendor produces? 15:25 kf I tried to translate all of them with Lieferant, I think this would be vendor or supplier 15:25 nengard owen - there is no difference 15:25 nengard they are all the same 15:25 nengard I'd say vendor - since you can buy more than books 15:25 owen I would probably choose "vendor," but I've not used any other acquisitions system for comparison. 15:25 kf but I think owen is right, we should only use one term 15:26 kf make it easier for translators too 15:26 nengard yup :) 15:26 kf vendor sounds better for me, but Im not a native speaker :) 15:26 nengard I've done a lot of training 15:27 nengard and no one has ever used a term other than vendor when i asked how they did acq 15:27 nengard but that is just the US 15:27 * owen chants USA! USA! USA! and changes everything to "vendor" 15:28 kf :) 15:28 nengard LOL 15:28 nengard owen - do you think when you're done with that you could test something for me 15:29 owen Sure 15:29 nengard on /cgi-bin/koha/tools/batchMod.pl?del=1 -- if you were to scan a barcode into the box does it submit the form before you get to scan another item? 15:29 nengard i don't have a scanner to test wtih 15:29 nengard with 15:29 owen Me neither :( 15:29 nengard wizzyrea around? 15:29 owen that's the trouble with VirtualBox, I can't hop on any computer and test 15:30 nengard or anyone else on who has the most recent HEAD and a scanner? 15:30 nengard and owen - you can easily plug any scanner into your computer :) 15:30 nengard they're plug & play 15:30 owen Yeah, tell that to the circ desk librarians who I'd have to steal one from :P 15:34 nengard hehe 15:34 nengard or the catalogers? 15:34 nengard I had one as a cataloger 15:34 nengard I'll send a message to the mailing list - unless someone in here has a scanner they can test with 15:35 owen nengard: Normally a scanner wouldn't submit a form from a textarea, since it's a carriage return and textareas will happily accept carriage returns without submitting the form 15:36 nengard ah - you are right!!! 15:36 nengard thanks :) 15:36 nengard no worries then 15:39 owen hdl_laptop: the 3.0.5 download link you posted to the Koha list does not work. I get Drupal "access denied" message 15:39 owen http://koha-fr.org/content/diffusion-koha-version-305 15:40 imp @wunder hannover germany 15:40 munin imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Wedemark, Germany is -7.7�C (3:59 PM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). 15:45 nengard we need to find a better way to handle the in-Koha help ... once the manual is in XML do we think we can pull from that? 15:45 wizzyrea lurve that idea nengard 15:46 nengard :) good cause as i go through trying to keep the help up to date before the 3.2 release i'm hating the way we do it 15:49 hdl_laptop owen-away: should be ok now 15:53 chris_n2 @wunder 28334 15:53 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 3.1�C (10:50 AM EST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from noon today to 7 PM EST Saturday... 15:55 joetho "Neither a borrower nor a lender be." 16:00 wizzyrea well criminy, that should be possible 16:01 nengard @wunder 19030 16:01 munin nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is -3.8�C (10:45 AM EST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Watch in effect from late tonight through late Saturday night... 16:02 nengard chris_n2 looks like we have a watch - not an advisory - what's worse? :) 16:02 collum @wunder 41017 16:02 munin collum: The current temperature in Taylor Mill, Taylor Mill, Kentucky is 2.2�C (10:59 AM EST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Falling). 16:03 chris_n2 nengard: watch 16:03 nengard :( 16:03 chris_n2 and actually we are under a watch atm 16:03 nengard i need to run an errand - but don't want to go out among all the crazies who will be stocking up on water and food - cause snow = end of the world 16:03 * chris_n2 thinks he may loose his seats at a play at UNC tomorrow :-( 16:04 chris_n2 hehe 16:04 nengard :( 16:04 chris_n2 snow = end of milk around here 16:04 nengard ah - yeah end of milk too 16:04 nengard but i have enough of that to get through the weekend ;) 16:04 nengard i think i should go out now - most people will be in work - right? 16:04 chris_n2 now's the best time probably 16:05 chris_n2 it'll get crazy this afternoon... especially if/when the precip starts 16:05 chris_n2 it's not the snow/ice I'm worried about... its the other people on the road that scare me ;-) 16:05 chris_n2 bbl 16:06 jwagner Those of us who grew up in the snow belt have _vastly_ superior winter driving skills :-) 16:06 chris_n2 jwagner: I grew up with snow, but most folks in NC did not apparently 16:10 jwagner chris_n2 -- yep, been there, done that. 16:10 jwagner Got the dents.... 16:22 nicomo @seen brendan 16:22 munin nicomo: brendan was last seen in #koha 14 hours, 14 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <brendan> hey great :) 16:58 schuster Party party party last day of work until January 4th - I'm sure I will lurk here and there but everyone have joyful Winter holidays! 16:58 chris winter?? thats crazy talk 16:59 kf schuster: my last work day this year too :) merry chrismas and a happy new year everyone! 16:59 * owen envies all these people about to embark on 2 weeks of vacation! 17:00 CGI212 Is there a way to get Koha to automatically create item records when a batch of MARC records are imported? We imported all our MARC records but have no holdings. We use the 852 field for our holdings information so I tried importing a record with holdings information in the 952 field and an item record was found but not created. Thoughts? 17:01 sekjal CGI212: did you have 952$a, $b and $y all populated with existing values in your Locations, Locations and Item Types (respectively)? 17:02 CGI212 Yes to 952$a, $b and $o. 17:02 sekjal CGI212: if you fill in the $y with your Itemtypes, I think that will help 17:05 CGI212 I see. That's problematic since we don't have itemtypes defined in our present records. I suppose this means we will have to create all new item records? Or is there a way around this? By the way, thank you very much for your help. 17:07 kf CGI212: there is no automatic way, but it should be no problem to add $y with a tool like marcedit 17:07 CGI212 Okay, I'll try that. Thanks! 17:07 sekjal CGI212: if your items all circulate the same way (have the same loan periods, fines, etc.) you could just assign a universal default value 17:16 joetho hey all you experimenters- has anyone turned "independent branche settings" OFF, after having used the system for a while with that pref ON? 17:16 chris hmm not me im afraid, never actually run with it on 17:19 brendan @wunder 93117 17:19 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.1�C (9:15 AM PST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 10 am PST this morning... 17:19 chris @wunder wellington nz 17:19 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (6:00 AM NZDT on December 19, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 17:19 brendan guess that I can still ride the bike today :) 17:19 chris stupids clouds 17:20 nicomo @wunder lyon france 17:20 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Lyon, France is 0.0�C (6:00 PM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 17:20 kf @wunder Konstanz 17:20 munin kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -4.0�C (6:00 PM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). 17:20 nicomo eh, always nice to see some people are worse off than one is ;-) 17:21 chris gah 17:21 chris http://www.metservice.co.nz/national/maps-rain-radar/maps/tasman-sea-nz-colour-latest 17:21 chris way way too many lines on that 17:21 chris gonna be a rainy weekend 17:21 chris otoh, probably some good surf 17:22 sekjal got a pretty good chance of a large snow storm sweeping through my way long abouts Saturday night 17:22 sekjal right when I have movie tickets, too... boo 17:22 brendan nicomo - does it usually get that cold where you are - or is that temp not normal? 17:23 brendan sekjal - for avatar? 17:23 sekjal brendan: yes 17:23 chris in 3d? 17:23 sekjal yes 17:23 nicomo brendan that's not unusual... if it doesn't last 17:24 brendan yeah planning on seeing avatar on boxing day, in NYC 17:24 chris nice 17:24 brendan one of those big 3d imax screens 17:25 chris pie who is in here sometime was at weta when they were working on that 17:25 joetho sup with the mass email announcement thing in koha 3.0x? 17:26 chris who what where? 17:26 joetho being able to send email to all patrons 17:27 chris oh, no idea 17:28 chris and it being the first day of my holidays .. im outta here for a bit, nicomo might know 17:28 * chris will bbl 17:29 nicomo eh eh, nice try chris but no, I haven't looked at the email annoucement yet 17:31 owen Is that in 3.0.x but not HEAD? 17:34 joetho it was bandied about when we were ILS shopping 17:44 owen Bandied about when you were talking to your vendor joetho? 18:04 joetho bait n switch 18:05 kf \me will bbl 19:24 nengard it's very very quiet today - is it really a work/week day? 19:29 owen It is for me, although everyone around here is slowly wandering off 19:30 brendan yup seems quiet today 19:30 brendan NOISE 19:30 brendan Loud Noises 19:31 imp ;) 19:32 * imp was just stunned by the snow today ;) 19:39 cait hi #koha 20:02 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:02 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.4�C (8:50 PM CET on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady). 20:05 jwagner @wunder 20740 20:05 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 1.1�C (3:03 PM EST on December 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from midnight tonight to 6 am EST Sunday... 20:54 chris_n2_ hmmm.... http://koha.org/download says the latest stable version is 3.0.2 20:55 wizzyrea has anybody looked at 3270 20:55 wizzyrea bug 3270 20:55 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3270 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Cancelling a hold request after transfer initiated orphans item 21:02 owen chris_n2: You didn't think it would be up to date did you? 21:06 wizzyrea oh, chris_n, I had a question about labels 21:06 wizzyrea chris_n2 21:06 wizzyrea :P 21:20 chris_n2_ wizzyrea: :-) 21:21 * chris_n2_ got caught up looking at some Jatoba (aka Brazilian Cherry) 21:28 schuster nengard around? 21:28 schuster or anyone who has travel experience! What are the cheaper days to fly? I thought I had heard like Tuesday through Thursday? 21:29 sekjal schuster: I believe that is true 21:29 sekjal also helps to purchase tickets on those days, as the prices tend to dip mid-week 21:40 cait time to sleep - bye :) 21:48 wizzyrea oh, chris_n2 are you still about? 21:48 wizzyrea that question... 21:48 wizzyrea ;) 21:49 wizzyrea NEKLS, as a local preference, has the label item search set to default to Barcode (we changed the templates... I'll wait while you cringe... ok) would it be possible to, say, have a checkbox in that window that says "Make this my default search type" and key it to the logged in user? 22:01 wizzyrea oh, and what is the status of that other LL initiative, openNCIP? 22:02 wizzyrea or is that "the next big thing" 22:02 wizzyrea for LL 22:02 wizzyrea I feel like I'm pulling the thread on a sweater here... 22:02 sekjal good (localtime), all! I'm off for the holidays. best wishes to you all. 22:04 wizzyrea oh, ha, chris_n2_ 22:04 wizzyrea that might get your attention better ^.^ 22:14 chris_n hey wizzyrea 22:14 chris_n you mean a personal preference or a library wide one? 22:14 * chris_n is in for just a minute then out again 22:14 chris_n library wide could be a syspref (yet another one ;-) 22:15 chris_n personal might be possible with a modification to the borrowers table 22:15 chris_n it is something I have given a little bit of cogitation to now and then 22:16 chris_n gotta run off again, I'll check the buffer later 22:22 wizzyrea well, I think personal 22:23 wizzyrea @later tell chris_n I think personal, in that each staff user might have a different preference. 22:23 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 22:44 brendan afternoon all 22:50 rhcl Hi brendan 22:50 brendan howdy 22:50 brendan you get any snow? 22:51 rhcl Not recently. Maybe light snow tonight and tomorrow. We do have a little left over from about 10 days ago. 22:51 brendan when I see an email from Liz Rea - it looks so weird - I'm used to seeing wizzyrea 22:52 brendan I've only seen snow on mountain tops so far this year - haven't got close to it yet 22:52 rhcl how are temps out there where you're at? 22:52 brendan it was 70 degrees today with a low of about 40 at night 22:53 rhcl Oh gee..... 22:53 brendan it hardly every varies from a high of 70 - even during the hottest parts of the summer 22:53 wizzyrea brendan: hehehe 22:54 wizzyrea i'm just hoping I didn't totally miss what she was saying 22:54 wizzyrea of course, without a URL I can't check myself to see what they're doing. That's so annoying 22:55 wizzyrea you really ought to include the URL of your opac if you're going to ask about the display therein 22:55 wizzyrea aside: I love screencast.com 23:02 rhcl are you using camtasia or jing?