Time  Nick        Message
23:06 Nate        gnight everyone!
22:39 chris       yeah that would be great
22:39 hdl_laptop  then we would have independent parts and update regularly
22:35 chris       cool
22:35 hdl_laptop  But I still have to master that part more
22:35 hdl_laptop  I am using it and I think it could be great to use that for translation and configurations.
22:34 chris       nope havent used it
22:34 hdl_laptop  are  you used to git submodule ?
22:34 chris       that looks ok
22:33 chris       http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha;a=commitdiff;h=df910acf3be7cb52adc51ae825bfeccf83d4a9ea
22:33 chris       hmm nope
22:33 chris       ah could be
22:32 hdl_laptop  I think it comes from  0024 Puts focus in search box on page load
22:32 chris       heh
22:32 hdl_laptop  cannot convert from utf-8utf-8 to utf-8
22:32 chris       i should track that with my autobuilder
22:31 chris       http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/3.2_community for anyone else interested ;)
22:31 chris       cool
22:30 hdl_laptop  I have some encoding error
22:30 hdl_laptop  see 3.2_community on git.biblibre.com for all the patches sent that pass on a master branchautomatically
22:28 chris       yep, that's another possibility
22:28 hdl_laptop  and some branches on the project.
22:27 hdl_laptop  I thought that it could be done with using topic branches with authoremails on top of dev
22:26 chris       it would just be nice to have a easy way to see how many patches are waiting etc
22:26 chris       that would work
22:25 hdl_laptop  waiting testing applied pushed cantapply rejected
22:25 chris       sup and offlineimap
22:25 chris       http://sup.rubyforge.org/
22:25 hdl_laptop  well there should be more dirs
22:24 chris       i use sup
22:24 chris       then people can just look and see oh my patch is still in the waiting dir
22:24 chris       the nice thing with the dirs, is that when the RM applies a patch, they just move it
22:24 hdl_laptop  are you using mutt ?
22:24 chris       definitely
22:23 hdl_laptop  But having only thunderbird directory is a pain.
22:23 chris       stgit involves a bit of change in work flow .. but might be good
22:23 hdl_laptop  maybe. Maybe stgit could be also handy.
22:22 chris       patches_applied, patches_waiting, patches_rejected
22:22 chris       do you think just have 3 dirs on a webserver would be handy?
22:22 chris       *nod*
22:22 hdl_laptop  There are patches which cannot pass.
22:21 hdl_laptop  chris : I try and apply all the patches sent to list on a day-to-day base.
20:52 chris_n2    bbl
20:50 wizzyrea    hmm, good to know
20:48 chris       its just adding a point of failure for no need
20:48 chris       but it goes through a mail server and has filters/spam scanning applied
20:47 sekjal      ah
20:47 chris       because patches@koha.org is just a redirect
20:47 chris       and encourage everyone to
20:47 chris       i always use koha-patches@lists.koha.org
20:47 wizzyrea    and by "always" i mean, the 6 times I've done it :P
20:47 sekjal      cool, thanks!  I just spotted a bug, and it was an easy fix, so I'll give it a whirl
20:46 wizzyrea    patches@koha.org is what I always use
20:46 chris_n2    I think patches@koha.org
20:46 sekjal      the wiki says the former, my inbox shows both
20:46 sekjal      quick question: is koha-patches@lists.koha.org the preferred destination for patches, or is patches@koha.org?
20:45 * chris_n2  had better go find something else to do...
20:44 chris_n2    never met him live and in person, but I'd agree with the electronically bit
20:44 sekjal      Ben's a good guy in person.  He just seems to have a way of coming off badly electronically
20:43 chris_n2    lol :-)
20:43 wizzyrea    that term always makes me giggle, while simultaneously filling me with dread
20:43 wizzyrea    hehe
20:42 chris_n2    but then maybe he got called into the "principal's office"
20:42 * wizzyrea  waves to Ben HIYA!
20:42 * wizzyrea  is sad that he's not
20:42 * wizzyrea  did too
20:42 * chris_n2  thought he might be coming around at one point
20:42 wizzyrea    Oh right, connecticut
20:41 chris_n2    works for a WALDO library iirc
20:41 chris_n2    ben ide (I think that's his last name)
20:40 wizzyrea    ben who?
20:40 chris_n2    nengard++ #for her blog post
20:39 * chris_n2  thinks it is significant that ben lurks on the irc log rather than the channel itself
20:09 hilongo     It can be done right now, but some librarians prefer to search a patron by the lastname
20:07 hilongo     but still be able to loan and reserve items to patrons from any branch
20:06 hilongo     Yep ... but the idea is tha staff from one branch cannot login as a staff of another branch
20:05 joetho      If you have the user permissions to do that
20:05 joetho      if you know what branch they are from, you can change to that branch and find them by name.
20:02 hilongo     Anyway, that is no a really big problem right now ...  :P
19:59 hilongo     Hmm..  I see
19:58 joetho      I think
19:58 joetho      but in general, no
19:58 joetho      hilongo: that seems to depend on the gui you are searching from
19:57 joetho      <---yes, independent branches
19:57 hilongo     in the releases after 3.0.1... I mean
19:57 hilongo     is it possible to search patrons from another branch by their names and not only by theie cardnumbers?
19:56 hilongo     but... about "independant branches" ...
19:56 hilongo     hello there... just got here :)
19:48 chris       ah yeah, like i said, "you want what???" :-)
19:47 chris       back
19:47 schuster    in which case you may need to be medicated... ;)
19:47 schuster    joetho - do you run independant branches?
19:14 nengard     well a report that pulls the home library instead of the statistics branch should be pretty easy for you to work up
19:10 joetho      that's what one of the guys in our state library calls it
19:09 joetho      "unmedicated" = "unmediated"
19:07 joetho      If we had unmedicated ILL it would be different, but a lot of our ILL in Kansas is pretty hands-on
19:07 nengard     in most cases the library checks their own item out
19:07 joetho      This is really more of a procedural issue, I suppose.
19:07 nengard     okay - well in that case i bet we could write a report to give you the numbers you need - but that's a strange case
19:06 joetho      5. I'm exhausted just thinking about it.
19:06 joetho      4. Statistics show that the little branch library checked the book out to the patron, when in fact the main library did.
19:05 joetho      3. Main library checks the book out to the ILL borrowing library (not part of consortium, but they exist as a special "ILL-category" patron.
19:04 joetho      2. Main library requests that the branch library transfer the item to the main library. They do.
19:03 joetho      1. Our consortium main library attempts to fill an ILL request and finds the item at another branch within our consortium.
19:03 joetho      Not to change the subject, but here's how I spotted this alleged "problem":
18:59 wizzyrea    and here I was going to go off about incorporation and foundation of city government...
18:58 chris       im off to catch my bus
18:58 chris       and with that gross generalisation on the history of colonisation
18:58 chris       thats how it was done here anyway :)
18:57 wizzyrea    hmm
18:57 wizzyrea    always that
18:57 chris       kill off the indigenous ppl and plant a flag?
18:57 wizzyrea    probably ^.^ not sure, will have to look
18:57 nengard     lots of it
18:57 nengard     money i think
18:57 nengard     hehe
18:57 chris       what does it take to start a town anyway?
18:57 chris       can we found it?
18:57 wizzyrea    damn shame.
18:57 wizzyrea    no moonbeam that I know of, though
18:57 wizzyrea    :P
18:57 wizzyrea    that makes sense to me
18:54 chris       that help?
18:54 chris       statistics.branch will be twigtown
18:54 chris       and return it
18:54 chris       if i go to twigtown next
18:54 chris       then statistics.branch will be moonbeam for that transaction
18:53 chris       if i walk into moonbeam kansas library, (i hope this actually exists) and check a book out there
18:53 chris       maybe im not being clear
18:51 chris       tracking libraries that didnt do something instead? :-)
18:50 chris       it tracks the library that did something .. is there more accurate than that?
18:50 chris       oh?
18:40 joetho      I won't tell em if you won't
18:40 joetho      oh my. Libraries like to have accurate statistics of what they do and it doesn't look like my consortium will get that from statistics.branch
18:33 chris       i just go "you want it to do what???? oh ok then"
18:33 nengard     hehe
18:33 chris       nothing about an ILS makes sense to me :)
18:32 nengard     made sense to me before :)
18:32 nengard     makes sense to me
18:27 chris       does that make sense?
18:27 chris       if you can only ever issue things at their homebranch .. then it will be that .. but that is just coincidence
18:26 chris       just where that transaction took place
18:26 chris       it doesnt care what the items homebranch or holdingbranch is
18:26 chris       no statistics.branch just stores the branch where the transaction took place
18:25 nengard     is this where you the ILS has crazy rules part comes in? :)
18:25 chris       or none as well
18:25 chris       on none
18:25 nengard     :)
18:25 chris       or both
18:25 chris       so could be either
18:25 chris       then its the branch the item was issued from
18:24 chris       if its statistics.branch
18:24 joetho      or clarify exactly what it is they are reporting to you. To wit: my reports problem du jur
18:24 nengard     chris - no - i just finished documenting them :) hehe - you can't remove them
18:23 joetho      How bout we just make em work right.
18:23 joetho      I think they are great, and easy for librarians to use.
18:23 joetho      I think about you every time somebody asks me about them
18:22 joetho      the report itself refers to "statistics.branch" and I can't figure out which is which. I have independent branches turned on.
18:22 chris       i think that we should remove the links to the canned reports until we overhaul them
18:21 joetho      another question - in the "canned" report module, ( /cgi-bin/koha/reports/issues_stats.pl ) ...does "Library" refer to holding branch or owning branch?
18:16 nengard     yeah - i think it's just all kinds of messed up :) hehe
18:16 schuster    nengard - when looking at this report it doesn't look like it would limit to the location either unless I overlooked it ...
18:10 chris       nicoles blog
18:10 schuster    chris where is that blog post guess I need to give ben a piece of my mind.
18:10 nengard     chris - okay - bug report coming
18:10 schuster    it has item limits in it too???
18:09 chris       nengard: yeah im not sure it works properly either
18:09 chris       but the euchre made up for it
18:09 schuster    nengard - I don't know it doesn't seem to work right for me.
18:09 chris       was the most mind numbingly boring job ever, slide the kevlar, put the blade on it, swing the press over, push the buttons 10 tonne of pressure down, click, ... move it off, start again
18:08 chris       every smoko break, and lunch break, all the factory workers would beat me in euchre
18:07 chris       to make helmets .. made some for london fire brigade, hong kong riot police etc
18:07 chris       one of my holiday jobs was cutting kevlar and fibreglass
18:06 chris       next time im awake at 5am i should find some online euchre site or something :)
18:06 joetho      rock paper scissors
18:06 schuster    euchre!  Oh my!!  Havn't in a long time but it was a Minnesota thing when I was little.
18:06 nengard     got a question - what is the patrons with no checkouts report supposed to look like? I have a ton of patrons who have never checked out -but they don't appear on the report ...
18:05 joetho      ah
18:05 Ropuch      chris: is Ben striking back again? ;>
18:05 schuster    I checked this book out from library A that is owned by library B - someone else at library A and it is still owned by library B but still at A does a force transfer - even though the book never really moved locations.
18:05 chris       who plays euchre?
18:05 joetho      renew? check out to another patron?
18:05 joetho      what do you mean, check out a second time?
18:05 nengard     yup
18:05 chris       joe trumps ben
18:05 nengard     :) hehe
18:05 joetho      well according to Joe you are.
18:04 nengard     according to ben you're not
18:04 schuster    I'm not part of the community?
18:04 joetho      check out a second time... meaning...
18:04 schuster    OK figured out the forced business!  If you have a book from library B at Library A and you check it out no problem.  If you check it out the second time it does a forced transfer to library A from A
18:03 nengard     hmm
18:02 chris       otoh he left a nice message on my blog :)
18:02 chris       since when did liblime customers become not part of the community?
17:59 chris       luckily i have given up commenting on blogposts
17:59 chris       "look at me, i can totally misrepresent a situation"
17:58 chris       trolly troll troll
17:58 chris       ah ben ben ben
17:58 Ropuch      Evening again ;>
17:55 chris       morning again
17:54 schuster    I've played with it but don't see how the comment gets there.
17:52 nengard     joetho :)
17:45 joetho      and Nicole too. Saw yer blog entry yesterday, btw. Take no prisoners!!
17:45 joetho      Thank you David
17:43 joetho      I am trying to research this, to make our end-of-time reports as accurate as possible.
17:42 joetho      Those are good guesses.
17:42 nengard     sorry joetho - not sure here either - but someone was talking about adding notes to SQL tables to make them make more sense - what ever happened to that?
17:41 schuster    wrong transfer maybe when the wrong location checks it in?
17:41 schuster    Sorry I can only guess - forced would be when the Librarian initiates it to send rather than the system automatically doing it?
17:39 joetho      anyone? anyone?
17:38 joetho      I have a transfer question- in the "branchtransfers" table, -COMMENTS- field, what do the values 'Forced branchtransfer'  and 'wrongtransfer'  mean?
17:38 joetho      hello
16:59 schuster    chris - sorry.
16:57 nengard     :( sorry
16:57 * chris     shakes his head sadly and goes back to bed
16:57 chris       note to self, dont read comments on blogposts in the morning ...
16:44 chris       good idea
16:44 nengard     that's what i do when i need to stop thinking about things and clear my brain before sleep
16:44 nengard     chris - time to start knitting
16:41 chris       gotta do something while the baby goes back to sleep :)
16:41 nengard     usually cause it's a koha meeting ... but still :)
16:41 nengard     i've been up at 5:30am talking about git
16:40 paul_p2     chris: do you know that there is an option to power off your computer? that would make wake up at 5AM shorter & consume less electricity ;-)
16:37 chris       yep, hungry baby
16:37 chris       ;)
16:37 * slef      returns to banking
16:36 slef        heh, is the answer "children"?  But why the hell am I awake at 4.30pm talking about git?
16:36 chris       why the hell am i awake at 5.30am talking about git???
16:35 * slef      looks at the list archive a bit more closely
16:35 chris       cos its doing my head in trying to keep up with what has been applied, and what hasnt
16:35 chris       so you could just look in there
16:34 chris       patches rejected
16:34 chris       patches applied
16:34 chris       patches to be applied
16:34 chris       just some dirs on a webserver
16:34 chris       or at least expirement with it to see if it works ... or maybe something even simpler
16:33 slef        probably could develop that into something that read the patches mailing list and posted the patches into bugzilla if needed
16:32 chris       is http://procode.org/stgit/
16:32 chris       what i would like to see us use
16:31 chris       sure, if there is a commit, you can attach it
16:31 slef        ta
16:31 chris       http://blog.fishsoup.net/2008/11/16/git-bz-bugzilla-subcommand-for-git/
16:31 slef        so upload for other people's commits if there's no attachment
16:30 slef        ok... could it be made to run when updating a branch from git.koha.org?
16:30 chris       its kinda trick
16:30 chris       it uses that to do it
16:30 chris       you have to be authenticated to bugzilla at the time
16:30 chris       or attach a patch to a bug, from that commit
16:30 slef        but for attaching to existing bugs?
16:29 chris       you can then create a bug from that commit
16:29 chris       after you commit
16:29 chris       your machine
16:29 slef        chris: where local is what?
16:29 chris       slef: the plugin works locally
16:08 schuster    Thanks - nengard
16:08 nengard     http://www.web2learning.net/archives/3434
16:08 slef        schuster: nengard: where's the post?
16:06 schuster    chris_n2 - well then I have no idea why it hasn't been pushed as it hasn't even made it into LL patches!
16:02 nengard     anyway - replied
16:02 nengard     schuster - you're silly - why the hell would i be mad at you for speaking your mind which is what the whole post is about???
16:02 chris_n2    schuster: this would have been back in august of 08
16:01 wizzyrea    except for some Dev work
16:01 wizzyrea    it's been june since we've gotten patches
16:00 schuster    nengard and chris_n2 - well I don't have that patch as a LL client self hosted.  Nobody has gotten patches in awhile.
16:00 slef        this has been said before - presumably we need clay or someone at LL to install it?
15:59 nahuel      ask to chris
15:59 nahuel      a bugzilla plugin for git
15:59 nahuel      slef, there is a git plugin
15:58 slef        and no, I'm not writing one today :-(
15:58 slef        we need a patch tracker or better linking between bugzilla and git
15:55 nengard     i'm not surprised - unfortunatly
15:55 chris_n2    nengard: will do... its just too bad the work did not make it into the repo
15:54 schuster    nengard - don't be mad at me, but I just posted a very lengthy post to your blog.  I hope we can still be friends.
15:54 nengard     chris_n2 :( you should put that on the bug report I guess - chris asked me to go through and close all fixed bugs and note if a bug wasn't fixed - so I did :)
15:53 chris_n2    and I'm not sure what the intended behavior is atm... sorry... :-(
15:52 chris_n2    unfortunately I no longer have the work
15:52 chris_n2    this was work I did for LL and submitted a patch, but cannot see that it was ever committed
15:52 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2635 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger@foundations.edu, NEW, Adding non-digit chars to cost fields in items causes data corruption
15:52 chris_n2    re bug 2635
15:51 nengard     yup
15:51 chris_n2    nengard about?
15:50 jdavidb     hehe.  yup.
15:49 collum      And 2 hour commutes.
15:49 jdavidb     Houston gets the worst of both worlds.  35-38C, *and* 90% humidity.
15:48 collum      Yep: I used to live in Houston.  I like cold better.
15:48 jdavidb     Humidity makes a huge difference.  Here in Washington DC, 30C feels like a sauna, especially down close to the river.  40C would fry your brains, but you wouldn't be soaked in sweat, because it was *so* dry.
15:48 * hilongo   wouldn't miss 40C that much either
15:47 hilongo     it isn't ... but living in the middle of the mountains it 'feels' warmer
15:47 * jdavidb   used to live in a place that regularly got to 40C in the summer, every day for several weeks.  He does not miss that very much.
15:45 munin       moodaepo: Error: "where" is not a valid command.
15:45 moodaepo    @where hilongo
15:45 jdavidb     30C isn't that hot!
15:45 hilongo     I'm at the other side of the world ... so we're melting over here
15:45 collum      heat wave
15:44 moodaepo    collum: I think it's gotten a bit warmer since yesterday : )
15:44 munin       hilongo: The current temperature in Mendoza Aerodrome, Argentina is 30.0�C (12:00 PM ART on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa (Falling).
15:44 hilongo     @wunder Mendoza, Argentina
15:44 collum      Wow.  moodaepo wins temperature wise.
15:44 hilongo     haha
15:44 hilongo     for me .. .it's like to sneak peak into a VIP room :P
15:43 munin       moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -10.4�C (9:41 AM CST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Falling).
15:43 moodaepo    @wunder 56001
15:42 hilongo     I leave the IRC open and take a look from time to time ... just to see what's on :)
15:38 munin       Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -9.0�C (4:30 PM CET on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
15:38 Ropuch      @wunder Wroclaw
15:37 munin       slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 4.6�C (3:35 PM GMT on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
15:37 slef        @wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET
15:37 munin       schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 5.6�C (9:30 AM CST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Rising).
15:37 schuster    @wunder 75074
15:36 slef        schuster: yes, I'm mostly idle and only monitoring.
15:33 jwagner     Or maybe a lot more of us are using it now for everyday problems, not just development.
15:33 jwagner     rhcl, maybe munin adds to the IRC's popularity :-)
15:33 munin       jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is -0.9�C (10:23 AM EST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Rising).
15:33 jdavidb     @wunder 20852
15:32 munin       collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is -0.8�C (10:30 AM EST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Rising).
15:32 collum      @wunder 41011
15:29 schuster    I know several of these probably leave their IRC open all the time most likely.
15:29 schuster    your point being - Koha is gaining momentum?
15:27 rhcl        Just an observation here directed at nobody in particular. I see there are about 50 people signed on right now, and this an average Thursday morning (here anyway). When I first started joining this chat like 6-8 months ago 20 people would have been a good number.
15:11 Ropuch      See ya in 15 minutes or so ;>
15:10 Ropuch      6Ok, getting home
15:01 * jdavidb   perks up.
15:01 schuster    jdavidb around?
14:39 munin       tirabo: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 17 hours, 18 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> tirabo: hi
14:39 tirabo      @seen bgkriegel
14:34 munin       nicomo: magnusenger was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, 5 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <magnusenger> hdl_laptop: nice!
14:34 nicomo      @seen magnusenger
14:30 Nate        heya jwagner
14:30 jwagner     Hi Nate
14:29 Nate        Hello #koha
14:25 schuster    OK thanks just making sure I'm not spinning my wheels trying to get 3.2 up and running...  I'd have been really frustrated to end up with 3.00 again!
14:25 hdl_laptop  If you want to get a 3.0.x then you have to git checkout -b local3.0.x origin/3.0.x
14:24 hdl_laptop  out of the box, you have master
14:24 hdl_laptop  yes schuster
14:24 hdl_laptop  yse
14:22 schuster    git clone //git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git
14:21 schuster    right now when I do a git pull I'm getting HEAD 3.2 right?
14:21 schuster    wanting to be clear on what I am getting with git.
10:55 CGI844      can an administrator log in remotely onto koha server installed in windows platform. if so could u clarify.
10:17 CGI844      i am trying to install koha in fedora. this is the place i am stuck in : make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 chris could u clarify.
09:57 Ropuch      chris: I hope you won't be dreaming of pootle permissions ;>
09:56 imp         gn8 chris
09:56 kf          sleep well chris!
09:56 kf          have to leave for a meeting now, will look at the new links in pootle later
09:56 chris       and now, bedtime :)
09:55 kf          chris++
09:55 Ropuch      Hooray for chris ;>
09:55 Ropuch      :)
09:55 kf          thx Ropuch and chris!
09:55 kf          and can approve suggestions :)
09:55 kf          more links everywhere :)
09:54 kf          I see the Ropuch's links now, try suggestions now
09:54 chris       try now
09:54 chris       ok katrin has permissions too
09:54 kf          translating as katrin for a while now
09:53 kf          aah
09:53 chris       thats the problem
09:53 kf          https://opac.bsz-bw.de/koha_temp/dashboard.png
09:53 chris       i gave Cait
09:53 chris       katrin
09:53 chris       ah ha
09:52 chris       what user are you logged in as?
09:52 kf          no
09:51 Ropuch      Then you shuold have (Permissions|Files) next to project -in german probably
09:51 kf          German - de is the first link, followed by the projects from the settings
09:50 kf          they do
09:50 Ropuch      So they should appear at your dashboard
09:49 kf          intranet 3.0.x - terminology
09:49 kf          all are chosen
09:49 Ropuch      (It's under my project down there)
09:49 Ropuch      Ok, first go to the Settings and select the projects you're involved in
09:49 kf          which link on dashboard?
09:48 kf          ok
09:48 Ropuch      Dashboard
09:48 kf          which tab is this?
09:48 kf          yes
09:48 Ropuch      And In project summary you should have 'permissions' link next to project
09:47 Ropuch      MY account >
09:47 kf          where do you see this?
09:46 Ropuch      (permissions to opac 3.0)
09:46 Ropuch      I can make suggestion, submit translation, view projhect and download archives
09:45 kf          Ropuch: nothing :(
09:45 Ropuch      kf: the same line as suggestion, to the right
09:44 kf          ok, im logged in and did logout/login after chris's changes :(
09:44 chris       now i just have to figure out what is different
09:44 Ropuch      I didin't realize i was loggoed oud somehow
09:44 kf          :)
09:44 kf          Ropuch: where???
09:44 chris       yay!
09:43 Ropuch      Sorry, O have the buttons
09:43 Ropuch      chris: wait
09:43 Ropuch      :)
09:42 chris       but in the morning
09:41 chris       ill have to keep looking into it
09:41 chris       how bizzare that i get them
09:39 Ropuch      But I remeber the buttons from previous pootle
09:39 Ropuch      I didin't realize it's not here because (as it seems I'm only one working at pl version ATM) I'm using lokalize and then upload .po
09:38 Ropuch      Nope
09:32 chris       can you see see/approve suggestions here?
09:32 chris       Ropuch: http://translate.koha.org/pl/opac3_0/translate.html?match_names=check-hassuggestion&view_mode=translate
09:31 kf          3.5.3
09:31 kf          firefox
09:30 chris       what browser are you using?
09:29 kf          yes :(
09:28 chris       how weird
09:22 kf          I see the colored markup for differences, but no tick and x
09:22 kf          yes see it, but cant accept :(
09:21 chris       (dont accept it :))
09:21 Ropuch      Just name the .po :)
09:21 chris       can you see my suggestion now?
09:21 Ropuch      kf: I can add one suggestion for you to try
09:20 chris       2 secs
09:20 chris       ahh that is probably it
09:18 kf          click on tick and submit or on x to delete the suggestion... but I cant see them :( perhaps because these are my own suggestions?
09:18 kf          yes, it worked this way before the update
09:17 chris       above the suggestion
09:17 chris       a little tick and an x
09:17 kf          the buttons?
09:17 chris       i can see it
09:16 chris       dangit
09:15 kf          chris: no :(
09:13 chris       thank you
09:13 kf          chris: will test, mom
09:10 chris       kf: i tried changing the permissions again .. hopefully that link gives you some buttons now?
09:09 nahuel      aya
09:08 Amit        heya nahuel, chris
09:06 chris       if you reload ... you get it now?
09:05 kf          chris: only the buttons I have for normal translation
09:05 chris       lemme try something
09:05 chris       hmmm
09:04 kf          chris: link works, I can see the suggestions, but not buttons to approve them
09:04 chris       np
09:04 kf          chris: sorry chris, was away from keyboard, reading back now
09:02 Ropuch      hdl_laptop++
09:02 chris       hdl_laptop++
09:02 chris       yay hdl_laptop !! :)
09:01 Ropuch      :)
09:01 nahuel      hi chris !
09:01 nahuel      w00t !
09:01 hdl_laptop  making the release today
09:00 hdl_laptop  no.
09:00 * chris     wonders if he needs to regen the .po files
09:00 chris       hdl_laptop: with your latest push ... any template changes? I think no?
08:59 chris       then the criticals, then the majors, then the normals ... then die of exhaustion :)
08:58 chris       only 4 blockers, without patches .. getting there
08:52 chris       then chose review suggestions
08:52 chris       http://translate.koha.org/de/intranet3_1/review.html
08:51 chris       then click review
08:51 chris       how i got to that was to go to http://translate.koha.org/de/intranet3_1/
08:51 chris       does that work for you?
08:51 chris       kf: http://translate.koha.org/de/intranet3_1/translate.html?match_names=check-hassuggestion&view_mode=translate
08:49 chris       (choosing overwrite)
08:49 chris       kf: i think the best thing for those \n is to fix it in poedit then upload it
08:48 chris       kf: hmm lemme look
08:48 chris       and it was out of memory
08:48 chris       pootle leaks ram slowly
08:48 chris       hdl_laptop: ill set up a cron job to restart it each morning
08:48 kf          chris: I had some problems with pootle yesterday too - got my message?
08:48 chris       hdl_laptop: fixed
08:47 chris       nicomo: yep, cheap place to do it, plus we have weta
08:47 kf          hi chris
08:46 nicomo      chris: lot of motion pictures shooting in NZ it seems
08:46 chris       hdl_laptop: hmmm let me look
08:46 chris       nicomo: you know kete eh? walter the head developer for that is in avatar (as an extra)
08:46 hdl_laptop  mmm seems that translate.koha.org has some problems
08:45 chris       hiya hdl_laptop
08:45 hdl_laptop  chris hi
08:43 Ropuch      ;>
08:43 Ropuch      Whoa, that was Hello from russia in cyrillic alphabet
08:42 kf          hi Ropuch :)
08:40 Ropuch      guten Tag, kf
08:39 kf          good morning #koha
08:38 CGI694      КУКУ
08:38 CGI694      ПРЮВЕТ
08:37 nicomo      annoying, still
08:37 nicomo      ah, not entirely surprising then
08:36 chris       nicomo: avatar
08:31 nicomo      what did you intend to see?
08:31 nicomo      sorry about the annoyance
08:31 nicomo      hi chris
08:24 chris       feels a lot warmer than that
08:24 munin       chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
08:24 chris       @wunder wellington nz
08:23 chris       went to 2 movie theatres, both full
08:23 chris       well that was annoying
08:17 Ropuch      hehe
08:15 nicomo      yeah, that's much better: feels warm just reading it
08:15 munin       nicomo: The current temperature in Tahiti, French Polynesia is 27.0�C (10:00 PM TAHT on December 16, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
08:15 nicomo      @wunder papeete
08:14 nicomo      I have a friend who's in papeete right now
08:14 Amit        hmm
08:14 nicomo      aaaahh, except for the drizzle, the temperature is just fine
08:14 Amit        nicomo: my city bangalore
08:14 munin       Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 20.0�C (11:30 AM IST on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.0�C.
08:14 Amit        @wunder Bangalore india
08:13 nicomo      Amit: what's your city?
08:13 Amit        heya paul_p
08:13 paul_p      (an electric bike. a really GREAT way of moving in a city !!!!)
08:12 paul_p      very cold on my bike this morning too...
08:12 munin       paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 0.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
08:12 paul_p      @wunder marseille, France
08:11 Ropuch      :)
08:11 Ropuch      I'm gonna check
08:11 Ropuch      But i think we're under -5 here
08:11 Ropuch      My mother just called - she spotted -11 ;>
08:11 Ropuch      Incorrect
08:11 nicomo      omg
08:11 munin       Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -8.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
08:11 Ropuch      @wunder Wroclaw
08:11 munin       imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is -5.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
08:11 imp         @wunder hannover germany
08:10 nicomo      brrr
08:10 munin       nicomo: The current temperature in Lyon, France is -2.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
08:10 nicomo      @wunder lyon france
08:10 nicomo      I'm find, but cold this morning
08:10 Amit        nicomo: I am fine what abou u?
08:09 nicomo      heya Amit how are you?
08:09 Amit        heya nicomo
07:01 Ropuch      Hi Amit
06:59 Amit        heya Ropuch
06:58 CGI351      ok
06:56 chris       you need to talk to whoever configures your network
06:56 chris       its not something anyone here can fix
06:56 chris       but there is definitely something blocking port 7090 outbound from your machine
06:55 chris       i dont know, i dont know your network setup
06:53 Ropuch      Morning #koha
06:51 CGI351      with network or ISP? Im on proxy
06:51 CGI351      what problem it may be?
06:51 chris       or ISP
06:51 chris       you will need to talk to your network administrator
06:50 chris       mean its not koha
06:50 CGI351      mean?
06:50 chris       something is blocking your connection
06:50 chris       yep, its not a koha problem then
06:49 CGI351      telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: connection refused
06:49 CGI351      I t say 'Trying 140.147.249.38...
06:47 chris       does it say connected
06:47 chris       telnet z3950.loc.gov 7090
06:47 chris       type
06:47 chris       at your commandline
06:45 CGI351      so wht should i do ??
06:45 CGI351      Im on debian-lenny
06:43 chris       which is usually caused by a firewalling blocking the port it is trying to connect on
06:43 chris       if it saying connection failed, it means the koha server can't connect to z3950.loc.gov
06:35 CGI351      ??
06:32 chris       looks to me like a firewall is blocking your connection out
06:28 CGI351      how can I solve this problem
06:27 CGI351      I have installed koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian-lenny, succefully,but z39.50 is not working, It show 'Results Connection failed to z3950.loc.gov nothing found. Try another search'
06:27 CGI351      09:24  but z39.50 is not working, It show 'Results Connection failed to z3950.loc.gov nothing found. Try another search'
06:27 CGI351      I have installed koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian-lenny, succefully
06:02 anotheruser night
06:00 brendan     night #koha
03:29 brendan     good morning Amit (evening here)
03:29 Amit        hi brendan, chris
01:22 brendan     bbiab
01:22 brendan     cya #koha
00:18 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Tombur Subdivision, North Pole, Alaska is -21.1�C (3:16 PM AKST on December 16, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -23.0�C. Windchill: -21.0�C. Pressure: 29.23 in 989.7 hPa (Falling).
00:18 brendan     @wunder North Pole, Alaska
00:18 munin       brendan: Error: No such location could be found.
00:18 brendan     @wunder 99305
00:18 munin       brendan: Error: No such location could be found.
00:18 brendan     @wunder 99307
00:18 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.6�C (4:11 PM PST on December 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady).
00:18 brendan     @wunder 93117
00:18 brendan     afternoon #koha