Time Nick Message 00:10 chris nz is a small place 00:10 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/3158465/Twitter-helps-reunite-owner-with-camera 00:16 brendan heh - that's great 00:16 brendan good peeps++ 00:24 chris hey .. how long have we had search history in the opac? 01:36 brendan chris search history came down during the laatest updates from .61 -> .100 02:34 chris ahh good, i thought id missed it:) 02:48 brendan @wunder 93117 02:48 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 11.3�C (6:44 PM PST on December 13, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Rising). 02:48 brendan @wunder 99705 02:48 munin brendan: The current temperature in Speedway, North Pole, Alaska is -32.2�C (5:46 PM AKST on December 13, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: -999%. Dew Point: -71.0�C. Windchill: -32.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). 02:48 brendan wow look at that humidity = -999 03:40 Amit hi brendan, chris, chris_n2 03:40 brendan heya amit 03:41 brendan @wunder 99705 03:41 munin brendan: The current temperature in Speedway, North Pole, Alaska is -32.2�C (6:36 PM AKST on December 13, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: -999%. Dew Point: -71.0�C. Windchill: -32.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Falling). 06:42 Genji Wow, its cool, im part of Koha history. Im the 33rd committer. 06:45 Genji And the 22nd top of the irc chat nicks. 06:46 Genji And.. most of my lines are questions..... 06:49 Genji http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ ... interesting reading. 06:49 Amit heya Genji 06:49 Genji Hiya Amit. How goes? 07:04 Ropuch Morning #koha 07:15 imp heyho 07:33 CGI396 Hello there huys 07:34 CGI396 Hello there guys 07:54 |Lupin| hi there 07:55 eiro hello |Lupin| 07:55 eiro hello all 07:55 |Lupin| hello eiro :) 07:58 Amit hello lupin, eiro 08:03 CGI396 Hi mLupin 08:04 CGI396 Hi Everybody 08:05 CGI396 Are u there guys 08:07 CGI396 Where can I get the best the best Koha pay 4 support 08:07 |Lupin| hello Amit, CGI396 08:08 Genji CGI396: Avoid Liblime. 08:08 pie CGI396: http://koha.org/support/pay-for-support/pay-for-support <- might help 08:09 Genji unfortunately, that page makes Liblime look good. 08:09 pie there's plenty of choice, so hopefully there is something to suit 08:11 kf good morning #koha 08:14 CGI396 Why should I avoid Liblime? (advice) 08:16 CGI396 Genji why should I avoid Liblime 08:19 CGI396 Kf,how can you assist 08:20 CGI396 Pie, I have already sent correspondence to the listed Pay 4 support companies 08:21 pie cool 08:24 CGI396 Does anybody know about a company called Sabinet in the Koha suppot community 08:25 chris they are listed on the pay for support page 08:29 CGI396 Chris: I know but I meant if u know more about the company's delivery profile 08:29 chris no 08:31 kf h chris 08:31 chris hi kf 08:33 Ropuch Hi chris, kf 08:33 kf guten morgen Ropuch 08:33 chris they are probably the closest to you geographically though 08:33 CGI396 Kf are u representing Biblibe? 08:34 kf CGI396: no, Im working for a German institution called BSZ 08:34 CGI396 Chris yes & I ve already communicated to them 08:35 * Ropuch is freezing 08:35 Ropuch Our central heating system was disabled all night 08:35 chris :( 08:36 CGI396 Guys anybosy knows why Liblime should be avoided? 08:37 chris google liblime fork 08:37 kf CGI396: you dont have to avoid them, but you should know that their product liblime enterprise koha is not the same as koha from the community - its your decision 08:38 Ropuch CGI396: it was Genji's own point of view, but you must need to know, that Koha version provided by LL is no longer open source 08:39 CGI396 kf,Chris,Ropuch: Oh I see.. 08:42 Genji Its no longer koha as we know it. 08:43 Genji And you probably can't ask for help here, if you go LL. Its changed dramatically from community koha. 08:43 CGI396 Does anybody know about this company called Openlx 08:43 chris Amit does 08:47 CGI396 Hi Amit: what should we take home about Openlx support for Koha? 08:48 |Lupin| guten morgen kf 08:48 Amit heya chris 08:50 Amit hi CGI396: means 08:51 CGI396 Amit: would u recommend their support 08:52 Amit hi CGI396 don't know 08:52 Amit i leave this company last year in october 08:52 Amit right now i m working with Nucsoft Osslabs 08:53 CGI396 Amit : I see ..So u have quite extensive experience with Koha eh? 08:54 Amit hmm 08:54 Amit i have already done koha for delhi public library 08:56 kf guten Morgen Lupin :) 08:56 Amit heya kf 08:57 CGI396 Amit :so you have worked with Sudhir Gandotra? 08:57 kf hi Amit 09:03 CGI396 AMit:what is URLto Delphi Public Library 09:03 Amit www.delhipubliclibrary.in 09:07 CGI396 Amit: Im already there. 09:07 CGI396 Amit : Thanks.... 09:10 Genji how difficult is it to diff my work's koha against 3.0, then bring the changes back into 3.2? 09:10 chris if you have been using git, very very easy 09:10 chris if you haven't quite a lot harder 09:11 chris but still doable 09:11 Genji nope, they haven't been using git. But the files are still in the git like tree (Bin, opac, intranet etc) 09:12 eiro http://search.cpan.org/~miyagawa/Plack-0.9022/lib/Plack.pm, http://search.cpan.org/~fwie/Acme-Very-Modern-Perl-0.02/lib/Acme/Very/Modern/Perl.pm, http://search.cpan.org/~flora/MooseX-Declare-0.32/lib/MooseX/Declare.pm 09:12 Genji their base was debian's kohaclone. 09:12 chris yeah its not the location that helps, its the versioning, if it was in git you could create a patch easy, or cherry-pick, or rebase your changes... without it being inf version control 09:12 * Genji nods. 09:12 chris you will have to do manual diffs, and make the changes 09:12 * Genji nods. 09:12 eiro some ideas for the future of koha ( just pick ideas from Acme::Very::Modern ) 09:12 chris :) 09:13 CGI396 Amit: Your currently company supports Koha, but its not listed in list of Koha companies..what shud i know here? 09:14 chris yes it is listed http://koha.org/support/pay-for-support/pay-for-support 09:14 chris just after sabinet 09:15 CGI396 Amit:Oh sorry just found out. Yeah sorry man.. 09:19 Genji CGI396:im curious, why arn't you using mibbit or a IRC client? 09:21 CGI396 Genji: No im using web-based client;why? 09:22 Genji CGI396: why are you using a web-based client? Mibbit is actually a better web client than CGI::IRC. 09:26 CGI396 Genji: Advice Noted... 09:26 chris @wunder wellington, nz 09:26 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (10:00 PM NZDT on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). 09:27 Genji http://embed.mibbit.com/?server=irc.katipo.co.nz&channel=%23koha&forcePrompt=true 09:28 Genji CGI396: use the link above, for a better irc client. 09:29 Genji_mibbit Testing testing... 09:30 Ropuch ;> 09:30 Genji_mibbit Try it, CGI396, the water's fine. 09:30 CGI396 Genji: Sure I can see 09:38 CGI396 .Genji what's IRC name & Channel 09:47 Genji CGI396: irc.katipo.co.nz channel #koha 09:47 Genji but just copying that link will take you straight back here. 09:49 CGI396 Genji:Already done exactly that..still connecting.. 09:53 |Lupin| till soon, everybody 10:19 si woot 11:59 zico hi 11:59 zico in my koha 3.0.4... the "status" of any book/dvd is not showing... 12:00 zico means... status showed "available" or "not available" before... by default... but it is not showing this now 12:11 zico hi 12:12 zico i cannot see the "status" of my opac 12:12 zico when i searches for any book or others... it shows the item... but... not showing any "status" like... available or not! 13:45 Nate Good morning, afternoon, and evening #koha! 13:48 nicomo good, what?, morning Nate 13:54 CGI526 ciao a tutti 13:58 nengard owen -did you ever get the modify/delete queryset of items to work? if not did you report a bug? or is it the fact that we don't know how to use it? 13:59 owen nengard: I'm not sure I did file a bug. I was in the middle of trying to figure out what was going on and got distracted by other issues 14:00 nengard owen - i'm with you on that!! 14:00 nengard :) 14:03 Ropuch Hello nengard, owen 14:03 nengard hosdy 14:12 nengard oops - just now saw my typo :) that was supposed to be howdy! :) 14:13 * jdavidb points and laughs at nengard. 14:17 owen Don't pay any attention to jdavidb, he's had an overdose of Christmas spirit 14:17 jdavidb :P Bah! Humbug! 14:20 jdavidb There are only a few Christmas songs I'm not rather tired of, owen. I've managed to be enough of a hermit this year to *not* be completely sick of 'em. 14:20 owen I'm usually tired of Christmas songs by Halloween. 14:21 jdavidb I hear ya. I was shocked last year to see Christmas decorations going up at Wal-Mart two days after Halloween. Music and all. Very annoying. 14:22 * owen sings, "All I want for Christmas is some approved patches" 14:22 jdavidb hehehe 14:23 * jdavidb belts out "I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas." 14:29 nicomo nengard: I did manage to do a batch mod of items 14:29 nengard nicomo - okay - so my question is what did you edit? Did you edit every field? I only tried to change the library field on multiple items and nothing happened 14:30 nicomo I modified the note field of the items 14:30 nicomo adding some lame text 14:30 nicomo on a batch of about 1000 items 14:31 nengard okay - i'll see if I can do that 14:53 * owen thinks that's the same test he tried 14:53 nengard owen - i'm working with nicomo to pin point the prob 15:37 nicomo nengard: it seems matts's code for batch mod of items uses: item2marc to get the data, updates marc, then mod item from marc 15:37 nicomo so it all goes through the API 15:37 nicomo and shouldn't be marc-flavour dependent 15:38 nengard okay - however owen and i are seeing some crazy errors 15:38 nengard when we added a non public note and it appeared in the item type field - for both of us 15:38 nengard and neither of us can change the library ... 15:38 nengard and when i added a public note it did not appear at all 15:39 nengard so - something is off 15:39 nicomo off it seems 15:40 nengard :) 15:40 nengard heh 15:45 nengard nicomo should i report a bug to matt? with lots of image attachments so he can see what i see? 15:45 nicomo I'm on it with him 15:45 nicomo looking at the code 15:45 nengard oh okey dokey 15:45 nicomo but I can't figure what's wrong 15:45 nicomo it all looks pretty standard stuff 15:45 nengard :( 15:52 nicomo nengard: any way we could test your install? 15:53 nengard no :( it's a virtual machine locally - bug i can say that it's just what i pulled from git 15:53 nengard maybe owen's is on the web? 15:53 nengard he has the same issues i have 15:54 owen I'm testing on a VM too 16:02 owen nengard, nicomo: For good measure I tried batch modifying a completely new record (rather than an imported one) and got the same results 16:02 nicomo ok 16:03 nengard owen - can you email nicomo some screenshots of your results? because you may be trying different things 16:04 owen One thing I'm not clear on: What should I see after submitting a batch change? I see a page that lists the items I chose to change and a link at the bottom that says "Go back." 16:04 owen Is that what I should see after a successful batch change? 16:04 nicomo yes 16:04 nicomo but with the change in it 16:04 owen Yes, that's right 16:05 nicomo nengard: and owen on step 1 16:05 nicomo when you have the list of items 16:05 nicomo are the right information in the right column? 16:06 nicomo homebranch under homebranch header, etc 16:06 nicomo ? 16:06 nicomo it seems so from nengard's screenshot 16:06 nengard yes - i think so 16:06 owen Yes 16:07 owen Batch-modding the item type results in the itemtype appearing in the "public note" field. 16:07 owen ...but it's the "non-public note" that got put in the itemtype field 16:08 owen Permanent location got put in Shelving location 16:10 owen collection code is unchanged 16:10 owen not for loan is unchanged 16:11 owen date acquired got put in source of acquisition 16:13 owen It's weird, it's like each field is getting put into the field *after* the field it should be in 16:13 owen Maybe a loop count is off by one somewhere? 16:19 owen Suggestions management has lost the ability to specify a reason on the fly? 16:23 nicomo owen: not that i know of 16:24 owen I'm going to the dropdown labeled "Choose a reason for all marked entries" 16:24 owen And I'm choosing "Others..." 16:24 owen I expected to get a text field for entering a custom reason, but nothing appeared 16:27 wizzyrea Hmm, am I just dumb or is there something wrong here (this was in the intranet with xslt turned on (current head): Software error: 16:27 wizzyrea Could not create file parser context for file "/home/liz/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl": No such file or directory at /home/liz/kohaclone/C4/XSLT.pm line 155 16:28 wizzyrea the file is existent? 16:28 wizzyrea (that is to say, it's there 16:29 wizzyrea ) 16:29 wizzyrea OH wait... no it's not! 16:29 wizzyrea the unimarc one is there, but not MARC32 16:29 wizzyrea 21* 16:30 owen I think I remember someone else mentioning that 16:31 wizzyrea i'm looking for a related bug but I don't think I"m finding one 16:33 owen Looks like brendan asked the devel list about it, but got no responses 16:34 owen [Koha-devel] MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl on 2009-12-06 16:34 wizzyrea ok so I'm not nuts 16:34 wizzyrea I think I'll file a bug 16:35 wizzyrea Unless there's something wrong with the git 16:35 owen I don't think devs any better responses from the devel list than regular folks :) 16:35 wizzyrea that was a biblibre project? 16:35 wizzyrea the xslt-ization of the staff interface? 16:36 owen I can't remember who said they were working on that... 16:37 owen BibLibre contributed UNIMARC versions 16:37 owen Someone else was working on MARC21 I think 16:37 moodaepo @wunder 56001 16:37 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -14.4�C (10:35 AM CST on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Falling). 16:37 owen It could be that the framework is there for XSLT on the staff side and it's just automatically looking for the MARC21 version just like it does on the OPAC side 16:38 owen (and by framework I mean the scripts necessary for display of the XSLT version) 16:38 wizzyrea right right 16:39 wizzyrea well, the file it's looking for isn't there :( 16:40 wizzyrea http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=tree;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt;h=fc2e26a1eb104e144efe24c2a781631e13ce80b2;hb=HEAD 16:40 wizzyrea doesn't look like it's here either 16:40 owen No wizzyrea I think it really honestly doesn't exist :) 16:40 wizzyrea hurrah 16:41 wizzyrea I will file a bug for it, and turn it off lol 16:41 owen Bug 2165 16:41 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Add XSL Support for Staff Client -- was: ISBN being truncated 16:41 nicomo nengard: 16:41 nicomo and owen 16:41 owen gmcharlt on 2009-06-15 "Enabling XSLT bib display in the staff client has now been sponsored." 16:41 nicomo I think I've pinpointed the issue 16:41 nengard woo hoo 16:41 nicomo it's related to the framework 16:41 nengard ahhhh 16:41 nicomo no the marc flavour 16:42 owen Staff client XSLT went down the LEK hole? 16:42 nicomo nengard: items are called up in the page each according to it's own framework 16:42 nicomo but all saved with the default framework 16:43 nicomo so if framework ABC has the barcode in $k 16:43 nicomo and framework "" has it in $l 16:43 nicomo -> boom 16:43 nengard ahhh 16:45 nicomo I didn't see it in my install because all the frameworks I used are coherent as far as items are concerned 16:45 nicomo can you confirm this nengard ? 16:46 nengard are there item frameworks? 16:46 nengard tell me where to look to confirm this 16:46 nicomo admin > marc frameworks 16:46 nicomo item field 16:46 nicomo for the different frameworks 16:47 wizzyrea so wait, ok, that bug says it was *going* to be done, is this a half job then? 16:47 wizzyrea b/c it looks like the unimarc flavor is there 16:48 nicomo nengard: if you have different settings for items in the various frameworks 16:48 wizzyrea actually, I'm going to be quiet, I don't know anything about this. 16:48 nicomo that would be an issue 16:48 nicomo hi wizzyrea 16:48 owen wizzyrea: BibLibre picked up the UNIMARC half, and someone else was expected to pick up the other half 16:48 nengard nicomo - i'm using just the defaults that koha installs - so which fields am i looking for in particular? 16:48 owen brendan: Did you get any off-list response to your question about the staff client XSL file? 16:48 nicomo I think in marc21 that's 852 16:48 nicomo not sure 16:49 owen nicomo: Are you saying that if the record I'm batch-modifying uses the default framework I should get correct batch edits? 16:49 nicomo yes 16:49 nicomo I think 16:49 nicomo I'd like confirmation 16:49 wizzyrea owen: thx, sorry I'm so dense. 16:49 brendan owen - nothing off-list - I talked with kf on-IRC and he stated it was on his list to get - same here 16:50 kf wizzyrea: brendan or me wanted to work on intranet xslt for marc21 (found no time yet, dont know about brendan) 16:50 brendan haven't found the time yet - here too 16:51 kf brendan: im a girl ;) 16:51 owen nicomo: I confirmed that the record I was trying to edit was using the default framework, but still no success 16:52 nicomo :'( 16:52 brendan whoops - totally sorry :) 16:52 kf just started reading back, long meetings today 16:52 * kf also known as cait in IRC (when im on my computers at home) 16:52 nicomo owen: I have to say I'm really disappointed in you answer ;-) 16:52 brendan ahhh... need to "/whois" more often 16:52 owen nicomo: I'll try again with another brand new record just to make sure 16:53 nicomo ok 16:53 nicomo have to leave for a moment bbl 16:54 wizzyrea oh and here I was thinking they were two separate people 16:54 * wizzyrea is now educated 16:54 wizzyrea well they are both helpful and nice lol 16:54 wizzyrea ^.^ 16:54 owen :D 16:55 owen I wonder if chris's stats take that into account? http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ :) 16:55 kf thx :) 16:57 kf hm no entry for cait in chris's stats 17:05 wizzyrea ooh, the ladies are going to need to be more vocal to catch up to the menfolk. :P 17:06 owen Sorry nicomo, still no luck even after batch-editing a newly-created record which used the default framework. :( 17:08 nengard nicomo owen - sorry - got distracted with the part of the manual i was writing - if you still need my help testing something, let me know 17:17 kf time to go home - bbl. bye #koha :) 17:22 wizzyrea so, another question, the syspref for XSLTdetailDisplay seems to indicate that the setting is for OPAC only 17:22 wizzyrea but I just tested it, turning it on makes the intranet detail display go nuts 17:22 wizzyrea (nonexistant file prob. noted earlier) 17:22 nengard I thought XSLT was only opac 17:22 wizzyrea apparently not? 17:22 nengard hmm 17:23 wizzyrea i mean, I could have something set up funky but it's pretty much out of the bo 17:23 wizzyrea box* 17:24 wizzyrea soooo, if that is true, we need to either 1. change the name/location of the syspref or 2. split out the functionality of the two prefs: one for opac and one for intranet 17:25 wizzyrea (and fix the fact that it's broken, of course) 17:26 owen #2. 17:36 wizzyrea bug 3920 bug 3921 17:36 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3920 major, P5, ---, paul.poulain@biblibre.com, NEW, XSLTdetailDisplay syspref controls both OPAC and Intranet XSLT detail display 17:36 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3921 major, P5, ---, paul.poulain@biblibre.com, NEW, XSLTdetailDisplay throws error in staff client 17:58 owen Hi arturo8a 17:58 arturo8a hi owen 17:59 arturo8a hi to all =) 18:00 arturo8a owen, i need some help with koha 18:00 arturo8a =( 18:00 owen Ask away, if someone knows the answer they will answer 18:00 arturo8a ok :) 18:00 arturo8a (first, sorry for my bad english) 18:01 arturo8a well, my Librarian ask me this: 18:01 arturo8a she needs to all fields of authorities can be search from opac 18:03 arturo8a i dont know how to do this =/. So... i need to modify the way that koha is indexing authorities and biblios, and modify re-indexing script 18:05 arturo8a im using zebra... i need to create some "record.abs" like biblios marc_def but for authorities. I dont know where record.abs is called to indexing 18:06 cait hi #koha 18:06 arturo8a hi cait 18:11 owen arturo8a: My silence means I don't know the answer :) 18:12 arturo8a hahaha 18:12 arturo8a thanks, anyway 18:12 arturo8a where you from, owen? 18:12 owen Nelsonville Public Library. Ohio, U.S.A. 18:13 jdavidb Hi, cait! :) 18:14 arturo8a I'm from UNI Central Library. Lima, Perù 18:16 arturo8a wich version of koha are you using? 18:20 owen We're on an incrementally updated version of 3.0 18:22 nengard woo hoo - groceries delivered now i can eat lunch :) be back soon 18:22 cait hi jdavidb and owen :) 18:37 jdavidb Good evening, paul_p! 18:38 paul_p hi jdavidb (at hotel in lille) 18:38 paul_p very cold... 18:39 jdavidb It's much warmer here today--was very chilly over the weekend. 18:41 jdavidb Howdy, collum. :) 18:45 collum Hi jdavidb 18:48 cait @wunder Konstanz 18:48 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.8�C (7:40 PM CET on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). 18:50 jdavidb @wunder 20852 18:50 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 10.1�C (1:43 PM EST on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling). 18:54 wizzyrea question: I'm looking at the cataloguing search page (addbooks.pl, more -> cataloguing) and the focus appears to be set for the search box in the code, but it's not working 18:55 wizzyrea can anyone else verify? 18:57 chris morning 18:57 wizzyrea mornin chris 18:58 imp wizzyrea: true, you can't start typing into the searchbox right after the reload 18:59 brendan morning chris 19:00 chris have i shown you guys the work pie has been doing? 19:00 chris http://kohacon.appspot.com/ 19:00 wizzyrea <input type="text" name="q" size="40" class="focus" /> 19:00 wizzyrea This should set the focus though, right? 19:00 nengard chris - that doesn't look like a pie 19:00 nengard ... 19:01 wizzyrea ooh very nice 19:01 brendan chris - this is what I got -- http://koha.pastebin.com/m51c8ff29 19:01 brendan never mind chris - cleared up 19:01 wizzyrea mine was pretty >.> 19:01 nengard hey chris - didn't you say that HLT was using task scheduler? 19:01 chris nope, they are live on 3 yet 19:01 paul_p g'morning chris. 19:01 chris arent even 19:02 chris hi paul_p , thanks for the nice comment 19:02 paul_p Hello wizzyrea, brendan & nengar 19:02 brendan heya paul_p 19:02 paul_p chris: was sincere ... 19:02 chris nengard: the trick with the scheduler is the user that the webserver runs as, needs to have permissions to use at 19:03 nengard how do i know who has permissions to run it? 19:03 nengard just look at the directory listing? 19:03 chris look at /etc/at.allow 19:03 chris if that exists then the users in that 19:04 chris if /etc/at.deny exists .. but is blank ... every user can use at 19:04 chris but if neither exist, only superusers can 19:04 chris paul_p: yep, it was good advice 19:04 nengard chris I have at.deny - but not at.allow 19:04 chris is at.deny blank? 19:04 nengard nope 19:05 nengard full 19:05 chris so it has entries in it? is there one for www-data? 19:06 nengard yup 19:07 chris that will be blocking it 19:07 nengard so remove that line? 19:07 chris this is on your virtual machine eh? not one out on the net somewhere? 19:07 nengard right 19:07 chris yeah remove that line 19:07 nengard all local 19:08 chris (don't do that on a production machine, on a production machine you want your koha sites to run as their own user and use that to run at, but for testing this is fine) 19:09 nengard WOO HOO 19:09 nengard I got further than I have ever gotten before 19:09 nengard I will include your tips from this chat in the manual - including an important note to not delete www-data 19:10 nengard now all i'm missing is email functionality of my vm :) in short - i won't get this report because it can't email it to me 19:11 chris yep 19:11 chris now your cpan one 19:11 cait a tutorial how to set up sendmail for testing would be nice (have no email on my laptop too) 19:12 owen nengard: Install postfix? 19:12 chris sudo cpan -fi PDF::API2::Simple 19:12 nengard chris same errors 19:12 nengard owen - huh? :) 19:14 owen https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html 19:14 cait chris: uh, I missed that one too 19:14 owen nengard: But I didn't do any detailed configuration and it worked to send something through Koha 19:16 chris ok 19:16 chris nengard: sudo bash 19:17 chris cd /home/nengard/.cpan/build 19:17 chris ls 19:17 chris find the pdf-api dir 19:17 chris cd into that 19:17 chris (will have some random looking characters in the dir name as well) 19:17 nengard -bash: cd: PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4-U40ggL: Permission denied 19:17 chris did you do the sudo bash bit first? 19:18 nengard uh huh - didn't work 19:18 nengard nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ nengard: sudo bash 19:18 nengard -bash: nengard:: command not found 19:18 chris eek no bash ... horrible 19:18 chris ok 19:18 chris sudo su 19:18 cait chris: it worked for me - i will try to follow to, had problems with this package too 19:18 chris cool 19:18 chris so once you get into the dir 19:19 chris perl Makefile.PL 19:19 chris make 19:19 chris make test 19:19 chris then paste me the output of the test 19:19 cait makefile failed 19:19 chris what was the error it said? 19:20 nengard debian:/home/nengard/.cpan/build/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4-U40ggL# perl Makefile.PLCan't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at Makefile.PL line 1. 19:20 nengard BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 1. 19:20 cait same here :) 19:20 chris oh easy peasy 19:21 chris cpan Module::Install 19:22 cait installing 19:22 nengard me too 19:24 nengard wow - longest install ever 19:24 cait yes... 19:25 cait hm it stopped moving... 19:29 cait ah :) 19:29 nengard chris - results 19:29 nengard debian:/home/nengard/.cpan/build/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4-U40ggL# make 19:29 nengard cp lib/PDF/API2/Simple.pm blib/lib/PDF/API2/Simple.pm 19:29 nengard Manifying blib/man3/PDF::API2::Simple.3pm 19:29 nengard debian:/home/nengard/.cpan/build/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4-U40ggL# make test 19:29 nengard PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'inc', 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/01.t t/02_open.t t/pod.t 19:29 nengard t/01.t ....... ok 19:29 cait finished 19:29 nengard t/02_open.t .. ok 19:29 nengard t/pod.t ...... skipped: Test::Pod 1.00 required for testing POD 19:29 nengard All tests successful. 19:29 nengard Files=3, Tests=10, 1 wallclock secs ( 0.02 usr 0.04 sys + 0.61 cusr 0.47 csys = 1.14 CPU) 19:29 nengard Result: PASS 19:30 cait me too 19:30 cait here too 19:33 chris cool make install 19:34 nengard Installing /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/PDF/API2/Simple.pm 19:34 nengard Installing /usr/local/man/man3/PDF::API2::Simple.3pm 19:34 nengard Appending installation info to /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0/perllocal.pod 19:34 cait Appending installation info to /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0/perllocal.pod 19:34 cait ok, same here, missed first 2 lines 19:34 nengard :)( 19:34 nengard or :) 19:35 richard hi 19:35 chris hi richard 19:35 richard hey chris 19:35 nengard chris - it's installed!!!!! WOO HOOO 19:36 nengard unfortunatly that wasn't the problem with the basket printing 19:36 nengard it still can't print ... oh well - but at least i have it installed now 19:36 chris yeah thats spine lables 19:36 chris labels too 19:37 cait nengard: do you have sysprefs for pdf set? 19:37 nengard cait - what sys prefs? 19:37 nengard :) 19:37 nengard guess not 19:38 cait kf: hdl told me they must be set when I could not print pdf from biblibre's test installation 19:38 nengard ah - how do i create/get templates to include? 19:38 nengard adn what pdfformat sholuld i have? 19:38 cait I have to sysprefs for pdf 19:39 paul_p nengard: look at the apache logs 19:39 cait OrderPdfFormat set to pdfformat::layout3pages 19:39 cait and OrderPdfTemplate (empty) 19:39 paul_p if there is an error, you'll get html, that acrobat can't open 19:39 cait orderpdfformat has no description 19:39 cait oh nengard - have you tried to open the generated pdf-file with editor? 19:39 nengard paul_p - okay - but there needs to be a better way to make it clear to the librarian using the system that printing will fail 19:40 cait I had an error message in it 19:40 nengard like on other pages where it says - you need to set this sys pref 19:40 nengard or this notice for this work 19:40 paul_p nengard: the syspref should be correct by default (pdfformat::layout3pages iirc) 19:41 paul_p ( or pdfformat::layout2pages ) 19:42 chris paul_p: http://stats.workbuffer.org/gitbuilder/ running the tests against each branch 19:44 nengard paul_p - my default is this: pdfformat::example 19:44 nengard and I didn't put it that way 19:44 paul_p nengard: then it's a bug ! should be layout2pages or layout3pages 19:44 nengard k - i'll update my bug report 19:44 cait nengard: did you update? I have a new installation 19:44 nengard cait i did an update 19:45 cait in my new installation its: pdfformat::layout3pages 19:45 hdl_laptop chris : WOWOWOWOW !!!!! Cool. 19:46 hdl_laptop chris : 3.0.x fails tests. 19:46 chris hdl_laptop: yep, but i sent a patch to fix master 19:46 chris i will send one for the 3.0.x today 19:46 hdl_laptop I should remove labels tests which fails quite unfairly 19:46 chris *nod* 19:47 chris hdl_laptop: what it does, is if it fails, it uses git-bisect to try and find when it last worked 19:47 chris eg 19:47 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/gitbuilder/#origin/translation 19:47 chris now i know that commit 1f7c701 broke the tests in the translation branch 19:47 hdl_laptop ok. 19:48 chris so once we get the tests all going nicely, then this can run all the time and we can spot commits that break them more easily 19:48 hdl_laptop So it seems that 3.0.x tests have been broken for a big while. 19:49 chris yes, for quite a while 19:49 chris does it use C4/Record.pm ? 19:49 chris that was breaking master 19:50 chris hdl_laptop: the other thing i played with in the weekend was gitdm to generate these stats 19:50 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/3.2.0.html 19:50 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/3.0.1.html 19:50 chris etc 19:51 hdl_laptop chris yes : for export.pl 19:51 hdl_laptop uses C4/Record.pm 19:51 chris right 19:52 hdl_laptop Is it consolidated figures ? 19:52 paul_p chris: you cheater: with translations commits, you'll always & easily be the 1st commiter ever :D 19:52 chris heh 19:53 collum looks like I've been slacking. Expect some patches soon. 19:53 chris paul_p: yep, i dont have many translation ones in 3.2.0 yet tho :) 19:54 chris the employer ones are interesting 19:55 cait paul_p: just saw nicoles bug update... will work on xslt once i get zebra working in my new installation 19:55 owen Ah, translations. I was wondering how chris had managed to be so busy! 19:58 chris yep for 3.0.x its mostly translations 20:00 paul_p chris: something is wrong with http://stats.workbuffer.org/3.2.0.html = I have no lines removed, but I removed many scripts for new_acq. 20:00 chris its not who removed them, its who's lines they were i think 20:00 paul_p even in this cas, someone else should have them credited 20:01 chris and i think the signoff gets in the way 20:42 cait do I need koha-zebraqueue-daemon when using rebuild_zebra.pl as crontab? 20:56 chris yeah another patch from wizzyrea 21:00 wizzyrea another teeny librarian annoyance resolved, I hope 21:13 wizzyrea owen++ for insisting on unique id's for everything 21:14 owen Even better would be if I followed through and made it so 21:15 wizzyrea dude, anything is better than nothing ^.^ 21:15 wizzyrea I'm wondering if I should go ahead and fix this thing that is an annoyance for our librarians 21:15 wizzyrea I did it locally with jquery but it might be one of those things that a permanent fix would make more sense 21:16 wizzyrea (I fixed the focus of the cataloging search box so that the cursor goes into it on page load) 21:16 chris do it 21:16 wizzyrea well ok then, I will 21:16 chris :) 21:28 wizzyrea omg, fastest bug turnaround ever! 21:28 wizzyrea fredericd++ 21:28 chris heh 21:29 cait wow 21:29 cait and *sigh* 21:31 cait fredericd++ 21:31 owen I feel a similar tinge of regret when someone else fixes something I wanted to fix 21:31 * owen enjoys fixing stuff! 21:32 owen But I would hate to discourage someone from contributing! 21:32 cait owen: wow, you understand me :) 21:36 * cait working on her first crontab 22:23 lakab anyone care to answer a question? 22:24 lakab it has to do with integrating information into the koha db from an LDAP source 22:24 imp if it's not another metaquestion, maybe ;) 22:24 lakab metaquestion? What did I miss? ;) 22:25 chris its always easier to ask the question than ask about asking the question :) 22:25 lakab ah... right 22:25 chris if ppl know the answer they will answer :) 22:25 cait and chris has answers to everything ;) 22:25 lakab so: I have my Koha speaking to my LDAP server 22:25 chris not LDAP 22:25 lakab (got it - thanks!) 22:25 lakab haha 22:25 chris someone else is gonna have to answer that one :) 22:26 lakab anyway, I have integration set to "1" in the config, and it is working well 22:26 lakab EXCEPT - it isn't bringing over the "firstname" attribute 22:27 lakab I know I have it mapped right - if I do an "ldapsearch" from the CLI for the property in the LDAP records, I find the right info 22:27 lakab <firstname is="givenname" ></firstname> 22:27 lakab is there something I'm missing? 22:28 lakab all the other bits of info being integrated were the default-ly required ones 22:28 lakab I added firstname to the <config> section, thinking it would just grab it naturally, but this is not the case 22:28 lakab I've googled around, but either I'm not asking the question correctly, or no one has had this problem before ;) 22:29 chris im not sure anyone who uses LDAP is on at the mo, but this is all being logged ;) you might want to email the koha list with the question, hopefully joe who wrote a bunch of the LDAP stuff will see it and answer 22:29 lakab cool - the general support list or the devel list? 22:30 chris probably just the general, if its starts getting techy, can shift it over 22:30 lakab heh, got it - thanks! 22:43 lakab mailing list inquery is away - thanks for the help 22:43 chris no problem hopefully someone has an answer for you 23:44 Nate until tomorow #koha! 23:50 moodaepo @wunder 56001 23:50 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -15.1�C (5:48 PM CST on December 14, 2009). 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