Time Nick Message 00:02 chris back 00:03 chris_n2 g'evening 00:05 chris heya chris_n2 00:05 chris_n2 tired, but fine otherwise 00:06 * chris_n2 catches up on the mail 00:06 chris theres been tons of it lately 00:08 chris_n2 chris: nice response to andrea's post 00:08 chris i couldnt really think of any other way to say it 00:09 chris_n2 yeah, I think she sort of missed the point of my response 00:10 chris_n2 wow... nice feature by michael hafen 00:11 chris oh, i mighta missed that one, what was it? 00:11 chris_n2 patron sync tool 00:11 chris hmmm lemme look 00:12 chris oh yeah, that is sweet 00:12 chris_n2 it allows sync of patrons with another db 00:17 chris very cool 00:53 chris_n2 I've some weirdness with koha on win32 as a dev install which did not occur when installed in a single directory 00:53 chris_n2 I can log into the staff interface fine 00:54 chris_n2 once at the home page, clicking on any link results in a 500 error 00:54 chris_n2 the 500 error is *not* the koha 500 error page 00:54 chris_n2 there are no helpful lines in any of the logs 00:55 chris_n2 it appears that foo.pl is not being reached 00:55 imp chris: can't we just ban the cgi script? (at least the default names, CGI*, guess the ones who setup a name there, behave much better :) 00:55 chris_n2 and it may be a file permission problem 00:55 chris_n2 any thoughts? 00:55 imp (but it might be mistaken if somebody can not join) 00:56 chris we could but they'd still be on the server then 00:56 chris id rather just remove the script 00:57 chris having one that you cant use, seems pointless 00:57 imp yeah, but maybe it can speedup the removal of the script 00:57 chris i doubt it 00:57 chris LL don't care 00:59 imp do they use the host for their own irc stuff too? 01:00 chris probably not, but even they did, they havent been on here for months anyway 01:01 imp k 01:23 Genji liblime-- # No communication. 01:24 Genji Wish we could edit liblimes wiki.. but we don't have any independant, non-original research. 01:26 chris 276 days 01:27 Genji Hmm? 01:27 chris since joshua was last on here 01:27 Genji Ah 02:00 brendan so mdhafen's patch is consider a new enhancement - so it doesn't get into 3.2? 02:00 brendan silly question - who keeps track of that? 02:01 brendan obviously (I'll make a note of it so it gets put somewhere) 02:11 chris galen 02:11 chris and i 02:11 chris as soon as a 3.2.x branch is made, then it can go into master 02:33 pennmanor test 03:35 Amit heya chris, chris_n2 03:35 Amit good morning @koha 03:59 pianohacker hi, Amit 04:01 Amit hi pianohacker 04:14 brendan hi Amit 04:14 brendan hi pianohacker 04:14 pianohacker Hi brendan 04:14 brendan got it right that time :) 04:14 Amit heya brendan 04:15 Amit brendan: i m getting this error http://old.nabble.com/Amazon-jackets-not-working-in-3.00.02-td24169316.html 04:15 brendan yeah that's a bug in the current HEAD 04:15 brendan Amit are you on HEAD 04:15 Amit no i m using 3.0.2 one of our customer 04:16 Amit so amazon cover is not appear on normal view 04:16 brendan sorry Amit - just read your post right now 04:16 Amit k 04:17 brendan you need to get a See: http://aws.amazon.com. Note that this is required after 2009/08/15 in order to retrieve any enhanced content other than book covers from Amazon. 04:17 brendan you need to get a - AWSPrivateKey 04:17 Amit ok 04:17 Amit i m also seeing http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=54f7ca4d3b528324b127df4bebf3e05a08830235 04:18 brendan yup -- After 2009-08-15 04:18 brendan is the important part 04:18 brendan pianohacker fill in if I'm wrong 04:18 brendan or if you have a more graceful way of saying it 04:18 brendan :) 04:19 brendan bbias 04:19 Amit bbias means 04:19 Amit brendan 04:21 pianohacker be back in a second 04:24 brendan back 04:28 Amit brendan: so i should apply this patch on 3.02 04:29 brendan Amit - in your system preferences do you see a spot for AWSPrivateKey 04:29 Amit no 04:35 brendan it looks like you'll need an update to get that to work again 06:49 pianohacker night 06:57 Genji Wow, the private library im working for, is installing koha on a dedicated quad core. its going to rock. 07:28 Ropuch Morning #koha 08:54 Genji omg, hi rach! 08:54 Genji rach++ 08:54 kf good morning :) 08:55 Genji Good to see katipo back in koha action... and in #koha. 08:56 Ropuch > 08:56 Ropuch Guten Morgen kf, hi Genji 08:57 kf Guten Morgen Ropuch 09:43 |Lupin| hi 09:44 kf Guten morgen Lupin 09:47 |Lupin| guten tag kf :) 09:52 |Lupin| bbl 10:02 CGI285 when I want to configure zebra by 'sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml' 10:02 CGI285 it show fatal http://pastebin.org/63465 10:03 CGI285 how can I fix it? I have completed web installer 10:04 Genji CGI285: one way to possiblly fix your irc disconnecting problem. http://www.mibbit.com 10:05 Genji Ajax based web client 10:08 CGI285 Genji: ok, 10:08 CGI285 Genji: 10:08 CGI285 how can I fix this error of zebra 11:22 CGI285 any one there to help me?? 12:01 Amit happy weekend to all 12:02 imp think there are still some hours of work left ;) 12:02 imp thanks Amit :) 12:02 Amit hi imp 12:06 CGI285 I have problem in zebra configuration 12:06 CGI285 I have prob 12:06 CGI285 'sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml' 12:07 CGI285 above command is not working it show fatal http://pastebin.org/63456 12:19 CGI639 when I want to run sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 12:19 CGI639 It show fatal http://pastebin.org/63465 12:37 CGI639 is there any one to help me 12:37 CGI639 ?? 12:41 imp CGI639: check if it's already running, if not -> try to delete the files (the ones it's complaining about) and try again 12:43 hdl_laptop CGI639: either zebra is already launched, or you have socket files already polluting your var/run/zebradb/ directory 12:43 hdl_laptop CGI639: or you have permission problems on this directory 12:44 CGI639 hdl_laptop: so wht should I do? 12:44 CGI639 I have run and completed web installer also 12:45 CGI639 04imp>>01how can I check plz tell me commands 12:45 hdl_laptop ps ax |grep zebra 12:46 imp CGI639: see the one hdl_laptop posted, and please do not use coloured text for messages here 13:03 CGI639 imp:ok 13:10 CGI639 hdl_laptop: I have tried this happen. Im unable to understand it. http://pastebin.org/63500 13:24 imp CGI639: you've got already a zebraserv running 13:25 imp (that's the reason why you cannot start another one) 13:27 CGI639 imp: could u with me as I can complete the koha 13:30 imp CGI639: maybe. describe your problem 13:30 CGI639 http://pastebin.org/63507 13:32 imp the variable $koha is not set, so your shell uses the path as username (which is bad) 13:32 CGI639 how can I set it? 13:32 imp guess you need to replace ${koha} with the actual koha username 13:33 imp or put infront of the command: koha=theusernamehere sudo -u ... 13:35 CGI639 I tried but not working these commands 13:37 owen Hi #koha 13:38 imp heyho owen 13:39 CGI639 imp: http://pastebin.org/63511 13:41 imp CGI639: you have to replace "theusernamehere" with the username you gave koha.... 13:43 imp and your prompt says, you are inside your home directory - did you extract the koha installationfiles right there, not inside a subfolder? 13:45 nengard you can always tell what part of the manual I'm working on by reading the bug reports I'm putting in :) today it's serials 13:55 CGI639 imp: i also replaced 'the usernamehere' with koha but same thing appear 13:55 CGI639 'koha' is the username of my koha 13:55 owen nengard++ # for bug reports! 13:56 owen jransom++ # for bug reports! 13:56 nicomo @wunder lyon france 13:56 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 8.6�C (2:00 PM CET on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Steady). 13:56 CGI639 my home directory is /home/nouman 13:56 CGI639 and I extract there koha installation files 13:57 imp CGI639: what does "ls | grep koha" print? 13:58 CGI639 imp: nothing 13:58 imp and "ls misc" ? 14:00 CGI639 ls: cannot access misc: no such file or directory 14:00 imp no big surprise that you cannot run the commands 14:01 imp use "cd /path/to/your/kohainstall" and then try it again... 14:05 nengard owen wish i could fix more of these bugs that i'm reporting - goal for 2010 - both of us (you and me) save up enough for Perl classes ;) 14:05 owen That goal conflicts with a trip to KohaCon 2010 (unless I consider that my Perl class!) 14:07 CGI639 'imp: ls | grep koha' 14:07 CGI639 return: 'koha' 14:08 CGI639 and 'ls misc' return 'magic magic.mgc magic.mime pci.ids usb.ids' 14:10 hdl_laptop nengard++ and jransom++ too 14:10 nengard owen - yeah .. hmmm okay - by 2011 :) hehe 14:12 imp CGI639: and "pwd" returns /usr/share/ ? don't think you got the right folder.... but i dont know what you've done so far 14:12 CGI639 yeah pwd return /usr/share 14:13 CGI639 I have intalled koha in default location and did not change it 14:19 CGI639 imp: wht shoud I do? 14:20 CGI639 Im now in usr/share/koha 14:21 CGI639 'ls misc' return 'koha-install-log translator' 14:21 CGI639 and 'ls|grep koha' return nothing 14:22 imp the command you try to use is still from the installation part, or? 14:23 CGI639 yeah installaion part. I m insallation koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian-lenny 14:25 imp so, if it's the installation part, go into your koha-3.00.04_fixed folder 14:25 imp and issue the command there again 14:31 CGI639 imp: same thing occur.. http://pastebin.org/63524 14:33 CGI639 actually this command is written in the part of 'configure and start zebra -> Zebraqueue Daemon' in documentation 14:33 imp CGI639: ... ${koha} is still not set.... just replace it with koha (you said some time before, your kohauser ist just koha) 14:35 eiro hello all 14:35 owen Hi eiro 14:54 CGI639 imp: i issue commands but it show no progress but hanged 15:03 imp CGI639: ok, i don't know what happens there (have no experience with zebra so far), maybe someone else can help you 15:18 jdavidb g'mornin', wizzyrea_. :) 15:21 veryinky :| 15:25 owen wizzyrea__'s reception is getting better: she's up to 2 bars. 15:25 veryinky Is there an easy way to delete a vendor? I've found a lot of ways to delete patrons or users, but can't seem to find where vendors can be deleted or removed. 15:26 veryinky (can edit vendors, but I want to delete one entirely) 15:35 * jdavidb velcroes wizzerea_ in place. 15:36 wizzyrea_ lol sorry I've been working on our new WAP 15:36 wizzyrea_ lots of connecting/disconnecting 15:36 wizzyrea_ :P 15:36 jdavidb :P 15:38 veryinky At least you got your _ back. 15:41 wizzyrea_ heh 15:43 veryinky Damn it. Koha crashed. 15:43 owen :| 15:44 veryinky Empty String at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/catalogue/showmarc.pl line 74 15:44 veryinky When viewing a marc record. 15:45 owen nengard: On the subscription add form, is the "Location" field mean to be "Shelving location?" 15:45 nengard that's what I think we figured 15:45 nengard there is a chat transcript on that bug that says that 15:47 owen Oh I see, Bug 3285? 15:47 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3285 critical, P5, ---, paul.poulain@biblibre.com, NEW, Location on Add Subscription should be pull down 15:48 owen Hmmm... Can't delete a subscription. 15:50 owen Undefined subroutine &main::HasItems 15:51 veryinky hrm 15:51 veryinky The following fatal error has occurred: Can't call method "as_formatted" on an undefined value 16:02 nengard sorry owen - didn't see the other question - yes, that's the bug 16:20 schuster I know this is beyond Koha - but I'm trying to fileshare with a windows server I have looked at this page http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-remote-windows-partition-windows-share-under-linux.html but 16:20 schuster The other server seems to be rejecting my request? 16:21 schuster Open for suggestions... My debian box isn't running a windows client so I'm doing it from command line - I've read a few other pages, but they all talk about the GUI Debian. 16:21 owen nengard: I notice that when I edit a subscription the "manual history" block is open. Is that to be expected, or a bug? 16:21 nengard owen - hang on - let me try to edit and see what you mean 16:22 * indradg is looking for an easy answer about Koha and CAS, is there any examples out there? 16:22 * indradg is looking towards BibLibre stuff 16:23 nengard Hmm - what do you call the manual history box? 16:23 nengard everything I see open is supposed to be open 16:23 owen nengard: The block that appears when you check the "manual history" checkbox. 16:23 nengard hey look at that :) 16:24 nengard I've never clicked manual history 16:24 owen When I edit my subscription that block is open, but the manual history checkbox is unchecked. In this case checking the box hides the block 16:24 nengard that's wrong ... 16:24 nengard I think 16:29 slef should bug 3848 be reassigned to chris? 16:29 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3848 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Suggestions - Reasons not showing 16:33 hdl_laptop slef: he sent a patch for that. 16:33 slef hdl_laptop: yes, so should it be assigned to him or you? Also, where is the patch? 16:33 hdl_laptop slef: sent on list. 16:34 slef hdl_laptop: I searched http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-December/ for the bug number without finding it. 16:34 hdl_laptop slef: I thought the assignee was meant to be the one who actually copes with the bug. 16:35 slef hdl_laptop: I think so too, but we've two bugs which are unassigned but patched, which seems wrong. 16:35 hdl_laptop Fixing suggestions management page, Authorised values werent being passed through 16:35 slef I can't think of a situation where PATCH-Sent NEW bugs should exist 16:36 slef http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-December/004975.html 16:36 owen slef: Sounds like we all need a reminder. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too..Probably today :) 16:36 slef pasting link into bug 16:37 slef owen: sure, everyone makes mistakes. I just had some time to browse the bugs (first time in ages) 16:37 owen hdl_laptop: Are you the person to ask about subscription-add.pl? 16:38 hdl_laptop yes 16:39 owen hdl_laptop: I notice when you edit a subscription the "manual history" block is visible, even if you did not create the subscription with "manual history" checked 16:39 wizzyrea nahuel: about? 16:40 owen The template checks for "history": <!--TMPL_IF Name="history"--> $("#subscription_form_history").show() 16:40 wizzyrea bug 3987 what were the symptoms of this? 16:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3987 was not found. 16:40 wizzyrea bug 3897 16:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3897 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Holds policies and CircControl 16:40 owen hdl_laptop: ...and in subscription_add.pl: history => ($op eq 'mod'), 16:41 wizzyrea bah 16:44 hdl_laptop nahuel went 16:44 slef can anyone explain bug 2332 to me more clearly? 16:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2332 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, holds queue script should target as many items as are available 16:44 wizzyrea yea, I consulted the list. I was sad. 16:45 wizzyrea slef: there has been a lot of work in this area, I wonder if this bug is still valid 16:45 wizzyrea ...not sure how you'd test it :( 16:46 hdl_laptop owen: is there a bug for it ? 16:46 hdl_laptop I will have someone see that. 16:46 wizzyrea slef: maybe he means that if there are multiple holds on an item, the holds pick list will only target one per run? 16:47 wizzyrea even if there are multiple items available to fill multiple holds at the same time 16:47 owen hdl_laptop: No, I was about to file one. 16:47 slef per run of what? 16:47 wizzyrea of the holds queue 16:47 wizzyrea (sorry, we call the holds queue the pick list, I'll try to be more accurate) 16:47 hdl_laptop owen: please do 16:47 slef wizzyrea: the cronjob or something else? 16:47 wizzyrea yes the cronjob 16:47 slef oic 16:48 slef wizzyrea: thanks 16:48 wizzyrea if we were on more current code I'd volunteer to test this as we have lots of holds/items 16:48 wizzyrea :( 16:49 slef yes, I think I need to set up a copy of one of our libraries and try upgrading it to 3.2 instead of using toy examples that have simple holds and so on 16:50 sekjal wizzyrea: I've been looking at turnkeylinux.org and how to make a Koha appliance. If I have any success, perhaps that would help with the testing 16:51 wizzyrea sekjal: definitely 16:51 wizzyrea I love turnkeylinux 16:52 sekjal after you mentioned it, it got me on a whole "make it easier to install and test Koha" kick 16:52 sekjal messing with it will be part of my Monday 16:52 Ropuch Woo, new pootle 16:52 owen hdl_laptop: Reported. Bug 3908 16:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3908 normal, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Edit subscription page shows manual history block by default 16:53 wizzyrea sekjal: :D yes, it should be easier, and it can be, I know it can 16:53 wizzyrea sekjal: I'm kind of on about this idea of the iPhone interface/iphone app/backpack barcode scanners for iPod touches 16:54 wizzyrea seems like such an elegant solution 16:54 wizzyrea or using the cam 16:54 wizzyrea well 16:54 wizzyrea some won't like it because it's not android :P 16:54 sekjal it would be nice to be able to work with a handheld device in the stacks 16:55 sekjal and if that device can be something staff members already have on them, all the better 17:01 owen "sorry boss, the next Koha upgrade will require all staff to carry iPhones" 17:01 owen Boss "Oh no!" 17:01 owen Staff: "Yay!" 17:01 wizzyrea staff "Cheer!" 17:02 jdavidb lol 17:02 owen nengard: You're a Blackberry user aren't you? 17:02 nengard owen yes 17:02 nengard wish i was a droid user instead though ... 17:03 * jdavidb cobbles up a Koha interface for Windows Mobile in his copious free time. 17:03 nengard LOL 17:03 owen I'm curious about whether your Blackberry gets served mobile sites designed for the iPhone 17:03 wizzyrea you know, I adore my iPhone, but the droid kind of gets my gadget lust going 17:05 Ropuch If only n900 wasn't so expensive... ;> 17:05 jdavidb If I didn't have an early cancel penalty, I'd flush mine down the commode, and not get another one. 17:07 Ropuch jdavidb: speaking of N900? 17:07 Ropuch I haven't got an opportunity to lay my hands on it yet 17:07 jdavidb No, I have a Motorola Q9c, running WinMo. It works *fine*, and makes a dandy mobile web browser. 17:08 Ropuch '? 17:08 jdavidb I don't place five calls a month on it, though. 17:08 Ropuch ;> 17:08 jdavidb Definitely *not* worth what I'm paying for it. It's nice getting email in my pocket and all, but I'd give that up to get back the cash. 17:09 slef iphones seem a bit of a pig to code for - lots of special CSS and meta tags 17:09 slef but you know, some designers will mess about for it because it's apple 17:10 slef the beret brigate effect 17:18 schuster Has anyone seen a scanner that could be attached to an iphone or ipod touch? 17:19 owen schuster: There are iphone apps which use the built-in camera as a scanner, I think 17:20 owen Otherwise I don't think you can "attach" anything to an iPhone or iPod touch 17:28 owen hdl_laptop: When I do a search for a subscription the search results page includes the heading "Search for Serial Routing List" 17:30 owen hdl_laptop: I'm curious what circumstances would require that heading to be shown 17:32 wizzyrea owen actually at the apple store they have barcode/card scanners backpacked to ipod touches as POS devices 17:32 wizzyrea (POS = point of sale) 17:32 owen The other interpretation would be all wrong for an Apple store right? ;) 17:33 wizzyrea lol 17:33 wizzyrea owen: of course (she says, typing on her 21in iMac) 17:46 sekjal idea: for each of the <module>-home pages in the staff interface, enable a widgetizable Dashboard. The system could be configured to display certain blocks with useful, realtime stats, work queues and important messages. 17:53 nengard sekjal - love it - you gonna do it :) ? 17:53 nengard owen - sorry had a conference call - I don't know - what's the URL for a page that is designed for the iphone that i can visit? 17:54 sekjal nengard: thinking about the data structure required right now. 17:54 sekjal unfortunately, it's probably a lower priority on my institution's development list than other things 17:55 owen nengard: How about http://app.showtime-app.com 17:56 nengard trying now 17:56 nengard yup 17:57 nengard it's a red page with a watchlist and a weekly schedule 17:57 nengard etc 17:57 nengard but clicking the links doesn't work 18:00 * owen doesn't like that some Bugzilla components are still by default assigned to people who won't fix them 18:04 sekjal oh dear. thinking about widgets in the staff client has spun into a complete redesign with AJAX and a whole new template/plugin system. 18:04 * sekjal brings his mind back to reality, and contemplates lunch 18:05 owen Lunch is a much more manageable project 18:06 sekjal thing is, I know I could do it.... I just don't have enough time. 18:06 veryinky :| 18:06 sekjal not lunch, the other thing. 18:06 sekjal I'll make time for lunch 18:07 sekjal like right now! 18:11 schuster nengard - target.com - checks browser evidently ... 18:11 nengard owne - i'm with you on that - kind of annoying - but we need people to volunteer to take them over :( 18:11 wizzyrea heh 18:11 wizzyrea wpmu.test.nekls.org/iphone 18:11 wizzyrea i'm working on this atm :P 18:12 wizzyrea I think the very hard part will be formatting/using the results/detail pages 18:12 wizzyrea landing page is ez 18:13 wizzyrea flip your phone, it honors your orientation :P 18:13 veryinky I showed my boss the koha setup I did, he checked out some marc21 records. Asked if I could make it so they're entirely in french... "000 -LEADER " "020 ## - INTERNATIONAL STANDARD BOOK NUMBER " is that actually possible? 18:19 owen What information should display under the "serial data" column in the OPAC view of a serial title? 18:22 veryinky Was that for me? 18:24 owen veryinky: No, I'm just asking anyone who might know 18:25 veryinky Ah, sorry. Only been using koha for 2 weeks no, so it'd be surprising if I knew. 18:31 wizzyrea um.. you would have to visit that link with your iphone or ipod touch :P 18:45 owen Is there a difference, in Koha terminology, between a supplier, a vendor, and a bookseller? 18:48 * owen will have to take his answer off the air 18:55 collum wizzyrea: Until my boss gets me the iphone I have to use an emulator. I'm using one at http://www.testiphone.com/ 18:55 collum Should I be seeing more? 18:56 collum I evidently don't trust emulators. 18:59 wizzyrea no, there's just a search box and login/logout boxes 18:59 collum Cool. Thanks. 18:59 wizzyrea yea, that emulator doesn't show what's actually there 18:59 wizzyrea :( 18:59 collum Not Cool. Maybe I'll try another one. 19:00 wizzyrea that's interesting, I will fix the "no display" thing when I get back from lunch :) 19:00 wizzyrea | 19:03 cait hi #koha 19:04 chris hiya cait 19:04 brendan heya cait 19:04 cait hiya chris :) 19:05 brendan morning chris 19:05 chris cait: our friend ben is back 19:05 chris http://www.coloradolibraries.org/2009/12/07/aspencat-is-up-and-running-libraries-unite/ 19:06 cait uh 19:06 * cait goes reading 19:09 cait 2 minutes betwen yours and nicoles comment :) 19:11 chris hehe, so there is 19:12 chris i blame google reader :) 19:13 cait had to look up derogatory 19:14 chris i think ben uses that word, because he is so familiar with it, I can't think of a comment he has made that hasn't been derogatory 19:15 cait but I think he gave up on the mailing lists 19:17 chris oh man .. a koha express question ... 19:17 chris ill leave that for someone else to answer 19:18 chris hmm i wonder if sekjal would be interested in the koha preconferene 19:19 chris +c 19:19 nengard what koha preconf? 19:19 chris email just hit the mailing list 19:19 cait chris: which mail? 19:19 chris from jodi schneider .. code4lib conference 19:19 cait ah found it 19:20 nengard ah - email 19:30 brendan sekjal - you about? 19:31 sekjal brendan: yes 19:31 brendan hi 19:31 sekjal hey 19:31 brendan yeah let's say that we do a hackfest at code4lib 19:31 sekjal sounds good to me. 19:31 brendan you can talk about your ideas and roadmap for course reserves or something 19:32 brendan gmcharlt you about? 19:32 brendan would be good to get galen there and have him do a session on coding or on 3.2 roadmap release 19:32 sekjal yes, yes it would 19:33 sekjal so, we could do presentations in the first half of the day, discuss ideas and such, then tackle bugs/draft code in the second? 19:35 chris sounds good to me 19:36 chris maybe make up some certificates, every bug fixed earns you one :) 19:36 nengard hehe 19:39 brendan sounds good -- let me write up some notes - I send them to you sekjal and then you can submit it to jodi 19:39 sekjal brendan: agreed. 19:40 brendan anyone else that is on the channel going to code4lib? 19:45 brendan sekjal - mail on it's way 19:46 wizzyrea is this still a problem bug 2331 19:46 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2331 blocker, P1, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, holds queue report not working with item-level holds 19:47 sekjal brendan: received 19:47 wizzyrea I *think* it's working on our install, if I understand correctly the problem is that if you item level hold, that item won't show on the hold queue? 19:47 wizzyrea (sorry I was looking at slef's wonderful but analysis) 19:48 wizzyrea s/but/bug 19:48 wizzyrea (and if that's true it's hell and gone fixed... heh) 19:49 nengard iono but i can try it ... 19:50 wizzyrea i've missed my hold queue opportunities for today 19:50 chris http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=516ba77b8b9d8cd40453253eedd46ca749d026d1 19:51 chris there was a patch sent to fix it, and it was applied, id mark it patch sent and resolved fix wizzyrea 19:52 wizzyrea ohh, thank you for that chris 19:53 nengard oh - guess i don't need to try :) 19:53 nengard still finding little things here and there with acq & serials 19:53 nengard most of which I have been able to fix myself 19:56 wizzyrea done :) 19:56 wizzyrea slef: did you test bug 2332? 19:56 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2332 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, holds queue script should target as many items as are available 19:56 wizzyrea that commit chris just linked claims to resolve it 20:00 chris lol now we have people confusing express and evegreen, this is madness 20:00 nengard well - i'm sorry - it's stupid name - just call it what it is - Koha 20:03 wizzyrea yes, it's a stupid name 20:04 wizzyrea I think (hope) I cleared that one up 20:04 wizzyrea that line of questioning 20:04 wizzyrea that is 20:04 * wizzyrea runs around in circles yelling "that! that! that!" 20:05 chris thanks wizzyrea 20:05 wizzyrea Yep. :) 20:06 wizzyrea I hope it was clear enough >.< 20:08 wizzyrea Is this still really a blocker? Did anyone follow through on the suggestions or is it "working enough for now" that it's really not blocking anything? bug 2340 20:08 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2340 blocker, P3, ---, rch@liblime.com, NEW, Conflict with ability to place holds for notforloan status == -1 (item On Order) 20:10 jdavidb chris, we'd need a whole case of paper to print all the certificates you'd get. 20:10 * chris looks 20:10 * jdavidb is catching up with scrollback. 20:10 chris brendan: http://www.wotzon.com/eventlisting.php?event_id=5024713 20:10 jdavidb you suggested a certificate for a bug fixed... :P 20:11 chris ahhh 20:11 chris heh 20:11 chris wizzyrea: lemme look at the commits, do we have a separate column for not for hold now? 20:14 chris ah yes 20:14 chris in the /cgi-bin/koha/admin/smart-rules.pl 20:15 chris you can set reserves allowed count 20:15 chris set that to 0 for your itemtype, and no reserves allowed, no longer a blocker, resolved fixed by work done with issuing and fine rules 20:18 wizzyrea I like this game! 20:20 chris :) 20:22 sekjal brendan: got held up on the email when a coworker came in asking for a brief serials tutorial 20:22 sekjal almost there... 20:23 chris :) 20:23 brendan sekjal++ no sorries 20:24 brendan no worries either 20:24 brendan ok need to turn the heat on here -- fingers are miss-typing all over the place 20:39 pianohackr|work brb 20:53 slef wizzyrea: not yet 20:53 wizzyrea kk ty 20:54 wizzyrea I got additional info that leads me to believe that it is fixed, not the least of which is that it works for us, and we are running on June code. 20:56 slef RESOLVED FIXED :) wizzyrea++ 20:56 wizzyrea ^.^ 20:57 * wizzyrea faints... that's two in one week! 20:58 sekjal cheers, all; time for a retirement party upstairs 21:00 |Lupin| hello folks ! 21:02 brendan @wunder 93117 21:02 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.7�C (12:58 PM PST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch for the recent burn areas until 2 PM PST... 21:03 brendan flash flood - oh joy munin 21:15 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:15 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0�C (10:00 PM CET on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 21:16 imp @wunder hannover germany 21:16 munin imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is 3.0�C (9:50 PM CET on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). 21:16 imp same ;) 21:16 pianohackr|work @wunder 81212 21:17 munin pianohackr|work: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 6.5�C (2:10 PM MST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling). 21:17 pianohackr|work woohoo, balmy weather, t-shirts and shorts weather at last 21:20 |Lupin| has anyone a clue re:the indexin problem I mentionned on the Koha list earlier today, pls ? 21:21 pianohackr|work not any obvious tips, unfortunately, zebra indexing is... touchy :/ 21:21 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: yeah this is something I noticed, too... :) 21:22 pianohackr|work You might try running the rebuild_zebra and zebrasrv with the -v flag 21:22 pianohackr|work lots of output, but some of it's occasionally helpful 21:22 |Lupin| what Koha tries to search for is "mc-ccode:24" 21:22 |Lupin| does that look correct ? 21:23 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: yep, I may try this, thanks 21:23 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: do you perhaps know what the mc- in front of ccode means ? 21:25 cait lupin: is it possible that it does not work because you use numbers as codes? 21:26 cait I think i saw patches dealing with numbers in codes in other places, where this caused problems 21:26 |Lupin| cait: oh ! I didn't realise using numbers could cuse a problem ! 21:27 cait im not sure about it - but perhaps its worth a try 21:27 |Lupin| cait: I may try to add an alphabetic ccode, then an item with that ccode and see if it works... 21:27 |Lupin| cait: it would be rather strange, IMO 21:28 cait i doubt I will find the patch I have in mind, but trying to 21:29 wizzyrea nengard: bug 3864 ouch, really? 21:29 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3864 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Cannot place holds in staff client 21:29 |Lupin| hey liz :) 21:30 |Lupin| cait: well, don't try too hard... :o) 21:30 wizzyrea hello |Lupin| :) 21:30 |Lupin| 22:24:06-11/12 zebraidx(15203) [warn] Index 'mc-ccode' not found in attset(s) 21:30 |Lupin| is this a serious warning o can it be safely ignored ? 21:30 chris wizzyrea: yep thats a real one, there is a bug in CanBookBeReserved 21:30 chris its on my list 21:31 |Lupin| hello chris :) 21:32 pianohackr|work |Lupin|: That's probably your error right there 21:34 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: erm... but what should I change to the configuration files ? 21:34 wizzyrea bleh that sucks lol 21:34 chris wizzyrea: or it may just be a settings thing 21:35 wizzyrea it kind of has that settings thing look to it, to me 21:36 pianohackr|work |Lupin|: Try removing the mc-ccode ccode line from ccl.properties, then changing ccode to mc-ccode in ccl.properties and bib1.att, then reindexing from scratch with the -r flag 21:36 chris yeah, the bug is actually that i cant set a rule for it :) 21:36 wizzyrea heehee 21:37 wizzyrea yea, that'd break it, for sure 21:39 nelsonf Anyone willing to field a question or two about getting e-mail notifications to run? I believe postfix is installed. When I type crontab -l, I see the following line: perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -t 21:39 pianohackr|work nelsonf: You also have to run the process_message_queue.pl cronjob 21:40 chris ah ha, that was upgradedatabase not fully working 21:40 nelsonf yes, this line follows: perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl 21:41 pianohackr|work nelsonf: can you send an email using mail? 21:41 wizzyrea hmm, is there supposed to be a checkbox under renew? http://screencast.com/t/ODhmNzAwMz 21:41 wizzyrea OH OH, wait 21:41 wizzyrea scratch that 21:41 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: bib1.att does not contain any occurrence of ccode... is hat okay or is it a problem ? 21:41 wizzyrea i know what happened there. 21:41 wizzyrea false alarm! 21:42 chris ok found the bug in updatedatabase 21:42 nelsonf pianohackr|work: it's been suggested that I've got an incorrect setting in the GUI. Using 3.0 I've looked and looked in the admin settings, though. piano: yes I've received mail. 21:42 chris sending a patch 21:42 wizzyrea chris++ 21:42 pianohackr|work |Lupin|: it did as of your email this morning... 21:42 pianohackr|work nelsonf: You can see what it's trying to send by running overdue_notices.pl with the -v and -n flags 21:44 nelsonf sorry for the *very* newbie question, but do I simply type this on the command line? # overdue-notices.pl -v -n 21:44 nelsonf oops, overdue_notices -v -n 21:44 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: ohoh... strange I didn't se this file although I copy/pasted line by line... 21:44 pianohackr|work nelsonf: How did you install koha? (standard,dev, or single) 21:45 nelsonf not sure, how do I find out? 21:46 |Lupin| nelsonf: perhaps in misc/install_log ? 21:46 nelsonf how about About Koha in the GUI? 21:47 pianohackr|work okay, nvm, I see from your crontab output above it's standard 21:47 pianohackr|work So you would run perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -t -n -v 21:47 wizzyrea actually, http://screencast.com/t/ODhmNzAwMz stands, that looks weird to me 21:48 wizzyrea and what I thought caused it didn't :/ 21:48 pianohackr|work wizzyrea: ? 21:48 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: bingo !! it works now ! so good intuition, thanks !!! 21:48 pianohackr|work Cool! Glad it's working 21:48 wizzyrea well, the renew column has a 0 in it? and the tablesorter can sort Previous checkouts? 21:49 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: yeah me too ! may I ask what gave you the idea to do that ? 21:50 pianohackr|work I noticed that some of the files in your email had ccode, and others mc-ccode. Most importantly, given the error message zebraidx gave you, bib1.att (presumably the bib1 attset) did not have mc-ccode 21:50 pianohackr|work wizzyrea: Something's very strange there. Have you updated recently? 21:51 wizzyrea yea, a couple of days ago... let me delete all of my intranet jquery (though none of the rest of it even goes close to this page) 21:52 wizzyrea no, it's still the same 21:52 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: I see... a vry good intuition ! 21:53 nelsonf pianohackr|work: I ran the perl script. last line: returns 0 rows at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 370. 21:53 pianohackr|work I think the added HTML/JS/CSS prefs really ought to have their own page, on a slightly related topic, the sysprefs page is a weird place for them 21:53 wizzyrea yea, I agree PHW 21:53 chris fixinated 21:54 pianohackr|work Maybe Tools -> Customize OPAC/Staff Interface 21:54 pianohackr|work ? 21:55 wizzyrea PHW: Customize Interface? 21:56 pianohackr|work Wanted to emphasize that it was for both the staff and OPAC, but that could probably go in the description on the tools page 21:56 wizzyrea I mean, why be wordy if you don't need to be 21:56 pianohackr|work right 21:56 pianohackr|work now, re: your actual problem :) 21:56 wizzyrea lol 21:56 pianohackr|work What version are you on? 21:57 wizzyrea looooking 21:57 wizzyrea 3.01.00.100 21:57 pianohackr|work Ahh, so you're on the latest broken cart button version. Let me see if I can find that problem elsewhere 21:59 pianohackr|work Uh-oh: http://demo-staff.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?borrowernumber=2642 (demo/demo) 22:00 * pianohackr|work wonders if this is due to the recent database updates 22:01 brendan yup that demo is on 3.01.00.100 22:01 pianohackr|work nelsonf: Sorry for the delay; what is your overdues setup like? 22:02 wizzyrea ohhh should I file a bug? 22:02 wizzyrea maybe it's fixed in the stuff owen did... 22:03 nelsonf overdues setup - i.e. rules for various itemtypes at various branches? 22:03 pianohackr|work Yes 22:04 pianohackr|work Specifically, whether you have multiple rules for a given itemtype/branch 22:04 pianohackr|work I think I might have fixed that bug for my site and never submitted it 22:05 wizzyrea PHW: naughty! 22:05 pianohackr|work I know, 30 lashes and all that 22:05 chris owen fixed the cart thing too, there is a patch in the queue 22:05 wizzyrea phw: but I still love you 22:05 wizzyrea ok I won't bother with it then 22:05 pianohackr|work thanks wizzy :) 22:06 * brendan feeling happy hour is coming early today 22:06 wizzyrea BUT why I was really looking at that page was for bug 3299 22:06 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3299 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Sticky calendar renew date doesn't work 22:07 wizzyrea which says it was fixed, can anyone confirm? 22:08 chris says it was patched, no one has tested and marked it fixed yet 22:08 chris lemme try it 22:08 wizzyrea yea, I was hoping to do that :( 22:09 |Lupin| anyone knows whether Galen could aleady catch up with all the patches ? 22:09 pianohackr|work Oh, goodness. $ git-status # Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, # and have 47 and 734 different commit(s) each, respectively. 22:10 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: oooooooh... 22:10 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: what's themethod in these situations ? 22:11 chris rebase and fix any conflicts 22:11 |Lupin| chris: ok 22:11 pianohackr|work Well, you can either shoot yourself in the head, or rebase, test, what you can, and get ready to fix the tiny errors you've created; the first method is faster 22:11 nelsonf pianohackr|work: I have one itemtype BK for multiple branches. 22:12 pianohackr|work nelsonf: OK. Does that have multiple notices set up for it at the same branch? (like 15 days, 30, and 45, for example) 22:12 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: hmm perhaps try the second method first !!! 22:13 pianohackr|work if you insist 22:14 chris what i do 22:14 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: I do 22:15 chris is branch, get rid of master 22:15 chris checkout -b master --track origin/master 22:15 chris then you can merge from your branch, cherry-pick 22:15 chris or cherry-pick even 22:16 chris (if i think there are going to be lots of conflicts) 22:16 |Lupin| ah the famour remote-tracking branches... 22:16 pianohackr|work any particular advantages for that over a simple rebase? 22:16 |Lupin| chris: when you clone a repo, arent the branches you get set-up to track the remote ones by default ? 22:16 chris yes 22:16 chris but we are killing master 22:17 chris first 22:17 chris ie branch 22:17 chris git branch -D master (after you have branched it) 22:17 nelsonf pianohackr|work: Im testing with one patron category, superlibrarian LIB-S. At Home | Tools | Notice Triggers I have First : Delay 1 (Overdue Notice), then Second : Delay 2(Overdue Notice) to make testing easier... Today I added Third: Delay 3 (Overdue Notice). There is a second patron type that is above the LIB-S. 22:17 chris pianohackr|work: it depends if you want all your changes and/or you have fears of tons of conflicts 22:18 pianohackr|work Assuming I do want all the changes? 22:18 chris then just rebase 22:18 pianohackr|work cool. thanks for your best practices, they are appreciated :) 22:18 |Lupin| yeah 22:18 |Lupin| chris++ 22:19 chris ok gotta go finish building bunk beds 22:19 chris bbiab 22:20 nelsonf I have settings on both DEFAULT and branch CFCE. Originally I had just CFCE. 22:20 wizzyrea I keep forgetting today is friday 22:21 pianohackr|work nelsonf: try cutting it down to just the First at CFCE 22:22 nelsonf In Default should I just clear everything out, an set each of the three triggers to Delay : null and No Notice? 22:22 pianohackr|work Yup 22:22 pianohackr|work Same for second and third at cfce, for now 22:23 nelsonf done. now I check out a book due tomorrow, then wait until sunday (Delay 1) to see if it works? 22:24 pianohackr|work yup 22:26 nelsonf excellent, thanks. have a swell weekend everyone ... 22:26 pianohackr|work nelsonf: Good luck, feel free to bug me again if that doesn't help :) 22:27 nelsonf wildew 22:29 |Lupin| ok, time for me to go sleeping 22:30 pianohackr|work Good night 22:30 |Lupin| tomorrow, one-person-hackfest, I'll be allowed to cooooode ! 22:30 pianohackr|work Hehe 22:31 |Lupin| good end of day jese, take care 22:31 pianohackr|work you too, sébastien 22:31 |Lupin| :) 22:31 |Lupin| this name will soon be out of use :) 22:32 |Lupin| there will be a tibetan name to replace it :) 22:32 |Lupin| ok, enough chatting for today, bye all. 22:35 wizzyrea man, chris is on fire today 22:35 wizzyrea fixing stuff all over the place 22:35 brendan you chris++ 22:35 brendan yup 22:35 brendan not you 22:36 Genji chris++ 22:36 Genji katipo++ 22:36 Genji catalyst++ 22:36 wizzyrea @karma chris 22:36 munin wizzyrea: Karma for "chris" has been increased 91 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 91. 22:36 Genji liblime-- 22:36 wizzyrea ooh 9 short of 100 ;) 22:36 wizzyrea @karma liblime 22:36 munin wizzyrea: Karma for "liblime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 7 times for a total karma of -7. 22:36 wizzyrea yikes 22:36 wizzyrea @karma LibLime 22:36 munin wizzyrea: Karma for "LibLime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 7 times for a total karma of -7. 22:37 wizzyrea aha, it's case insensitive, nice 22:42 wizzyrea @karma 22:42 munin wizzyrea: Highest karma: "chris" (91), "owen" (67), and "gmcharlt" (67). Lowest karma: "<!" (-27), "failed" (-20), and "-" (-11). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 10 out of 612. 22:42 wizzyrea @wunder 66047 22:42 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 2.0�C (4:41 PM CST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Steady). 22:43 wizzyrea brr. 22:43 brendan @wunder 93317 22:43 munin brendan: Error: No such location could be found. 22:43 brendan @wunder 93117 22:43 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.4�C (2:38 PM PST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Falling). 22:45 pianohackr|work wizzyrea: Has it been insanely cold in kansas lately? We've been getting sub-0°F temps at night lately 22:46 wizzyrea PHW: yes, it has been crazy cold 22:46 wizzyrea we got an arctic screamer early this week, so cold they closed school in a lot of places 23:08 joetho @karma joetho 23:08 munin joetho: joetho has neutral karma. 23:09 joetho well I guess it could be worse 23:09 joetho @karma johnindy 23:09 munin joetho: johnindy has neutral karma. 23:09 joetho @karma madeupnamecouldbeanyone 23:09 munin joetho: madeupnamecouldbeanyone has neutral karma. 23:09 chris_n2 @wunder 28334 23:09 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Moore Farm, Four Oaks, North Carolina is -0.3�C (6:07 PM EST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling). 23:10 * chris_n2 throws more logs on the fire 23:10 joetho @karma cmon_nobody_REALLY 23:10 munin joetho: cmon_nobody_REALLY has neutral karma. 23:10 joetho ha ha ha 23:11 pianohackr|work @karma buddha 23:11 munin pianohackr|work: buddha has neutral karma. 23:33 brendan buddha++ 23:33 brendan @karma buddha 23:33 munin brendan: Karma for "buddha" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 23:34 brendan that's how it should be :) 23:35 brendan @wunder brisbane, australia 23:35 munin brendan: The current temperature in Brisbane Airport M. O, Queensland is 27.0�C (9:00 AM EST on December 12, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 23:35 brendan hey pianohacker - did you ever think about going to kohacon10 ? 23:36 brendan whoops pianohackr|work 23:36 brendan most likely that would be in the middle of your first semester in college - so I wasn't sure 23:47 pianohackr|work that's the thing 23:47 pianohackr|work Am waiting to figure that out until I have a better idea where I'm going and how that would work