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00:00 Nate goodnight Koha!
00:18 brendan @wunder 93117
00:18 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 10.8�C (4:12 PM PST on December 08, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising). Frost advisory in effect from 3 am to 9 am PST Wednesday...
00:29 nengard hooooolllllllyyyyy cow!
00:29 nengard gmcharlt has been busy!
00:29 nengard just opened my email :)
00:30 jransom whats he been up to ...
00:30 jransom I just getting my head around bugzilla and what bugs have been reported for 3.2
00:31 nengard jransom - nevermind - very weird - I just got an email with tons of commits
00:31 jransom and seeing what bugs i've got that have A) have been reported or b) i can add to or c) need to be bereported
00:31 nengard but then i saw that the date is the 1st
00:31 nengard it was the biblibre merge ... not sure why i just got the email
00:32 nengard now i'm sad ... thought i was gonna have a ton of fun stuff to play with ... oh well - guess i'll wait patiently
00:34 jransom you .. patient :)
00:35 nengard i know - i'm no good at that
00:35 nengard but i'll try
00:35 nengard :)
00:35 nengard gonna log off and play a game instead of playing with koha :)
00:35 nengard ttyl
01:42 brendan @wunder 93117
01:42 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 9.3�C (5:37 PM PST on December 08, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Falling). Frost advisory in effect from 3 am to 9 am PST Wednesday...
01:50 pianohackr|work bye
02:11 jransom going quietly batty here ...
02:11 jransom why doesn't my screen look like the one in the 3.2 manual ...
02:12 jransom Chris: you about?
02:56 joetho @wunder 66701
02:56 munin joetho: The current temperature in DEAN\'S WEATHER STATION, PRESCOTT, Kansas is 2.0�C (8:55 PM CST on December 08, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.32 in 992.8 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from 3 am to noon CST Wednesday...
03:26 mahesh hello all
03:35 jransom hi there
03:38 Amit heya brendan, chris_n2, chris
03:39 Amit good morning #koha
03:39 brendan hello amit
03:39 brendan good morning
03:39 Amit brendan: google chrome is available for linux
03:40 brendan cool
03:40 Amit http://www.google.com/chrome?hl=en&platform=linux&brand=CHFK
03:52 brendan @wunder 93117
03:52 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 7.8�C (7:48 PM PST on December 08, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Rising). Frost advisory in effect from 3 am to 9 am PST Wednesday...
04:43 brendan @wunder 93117
04:43 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 8.2�C (8:39 PM PST on December 08, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). Frost advisory in effect from 3 am to 9 am PST Wednesday...
05:03 hdl_laptop hi
05:05 hdl_laptop Ropuch: long lines are loathed by git. you could do a pull request from a public branch.
06:34 Susan-Dev Good Morning Everyone,
06:34 Susan-Dev I tried the issuing rules under the Administration section
06:35 Susan-Dev but if I go to the checkout page, and I specify a due date for this "Book" item, for example 2 weeks from now, IT allows me
06:35 Susan-Dev It does not say, You have a rule that says "ONLY 2 days" allowed for the Item BOOK, based on your issuing rules
06:35 Susan-Dev or something similar
06:35 Susan-Dev Does that exist in koha?....
06:36 Susan-Dev sorry in the Issuing rules section, I specified that Category STaff, should be allowed to check out book ITEMS
06:36 Susan-Dev for only 2 days
06:36 Susan-Dev but when I checkouta book to a staff and give him 2 weeks..it lets me proceed
06:39 Susan-Dev anyone? awake :)
06:39 Susan-Dev Or is my question not clear...
06:40 Susan-Dev I want to assign a limiting due date per specific Item Type per specific Category. Staff + Books + 2 days (Loan Period),. I do this in the default issuing rules section...seems ok. However, I checkout to Staff +Book+3 weeks due date. No error comes up, it allows me to check out the book for that long
06:40 Susan-Dev >_<
06:53 Susan-Dev guess I am the only one who is ok...its ok I will wait, while searching google..
07:01 Ropuch Morning #koha
07:06 Susan-Dev morning
07:06 Susan-Dev ropuch are you familiar with issuing rules + due date of checkouts? in koha
07:08 Ropuch Not really
07:16 Susan-Dev :) thanks
07:16 Susan-Dev its alright
07:16 Ropuch hdl_laptop: how can I do that pull request?
07:48 CGI715 good morning
07:49 CGI715 I have still problem in
07:55 zico hi... i am using koha-3.0.4 i want to modify some policy for "holding books/cds/dvds"....
07:56 zico as for example: Students cannot hold more than 2 books...whereas Faculty staff can hold only 5 books... but not more than that
07:56 zico how to do that?
07:56 zico is there anything for "holding" items there in koha - 3.0.4?
07:58 Ropuch There's maxreserve sys pref
08:00 Ropuch And you can specify some loan details per patron category, but I don;t think there's something sililar with holds in 3.0.4
08:00 zico Ropuc: Thanks, but that is "same" for everyone... i want this different from different types of users
08:01 zico sorryy... it is Ropuch
08:01 zico :)
08:01 Ropuch [;
08:02 zico Ropuch: can i do anything with this maxreserve for different type of users?
08:03 Ropuch zico: I'm quite sure you can't
08:04 zico :(
08:07 Genji hiya all!
08:09 kf hi #koha
08:14 CGI715 when I run this command ' sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml'
08:14 Ropuch Morning kf [;
08:14 CGI715 IT show ' sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml'
08:14 CGI715 whtz its meaning
08:15 kf guten Morgen Ropuch
08:16 CGI715 is it error?
08:19 CGI715 why my irc is going to end
08:26 CGI715 actually it show
08:26 CGI715 sudo: no passwd entry for koha!
08:29 kf CGI715: we dont know wher youre in the installation process and what you try to do, which version? which os? using installation manual?
08:30 hdl_laptop zico: there is an enhancement we work on about that
08:42 Ropuch Hi paul_p
08:43 Ropuch paul_p: maybe you know what I'm supposed to do: I've added pl-Pl directory to installer/data/mysql, generated patch for it, but when trying to send it I get "fatal: patch contains a line longer than 998 characters"
08:44 Ropuch Lots of lines are longer (those with marc filds, ISBD for example)
08:45 Ropuch Should I sent it in a form of attachment to koha-patches@lists.koha.org? (I'm working with 3.2)
08:52 paul_p Ropuch: yep. The only solution is the attachment
08:52 paul_p we faced the problem sometimes (rarely)
08:54 Ropuch paul_p: it's quite a big patch (5,8mb) - should i gzip it?
08:54 paul_p Ropuch: wow, yes, please, gzip it !
08:54 paul_p other option : file a bugs.koha.org, upload your gzipped patch, and send a mail to patches@ to let galen know he can get it
08:54 Ropuch .sql for install mandatory & optional values ;>
08:55 Ropuch Bugzilla scares me
08:55 Ropuch ;>
08:55 paul_p that's a better option imo, that will prevent everybody DLing the mail with the patch
08:55 Ropuch Ok, so I'll take that approach
09:04 Ropuch hi chris_n2
09:57 Ropuch Huh, I've filled a bug, attached a gziped patch to it, send an email to koha-patches@
09:57 Ropuch Hope I've done it right
13:08 nengard updating all of this documentation is helping me find tini tiny inconsistencies in Koha that I now have the power to fix :) such a nice feeling
13:10 kf your patches are great nicole!
13:20 hdl_laptop nengard: I have some problems with your patches. I cannot apply them.
13:20 nengard hdl - what could I be doing wrong?
13:22 hdl_laptop nengard: In fact, it is a message in multipart with binary of the patch.
13:22 nengard so i shouldn't be attaching the patch to my emails?
13:40 owen nengard, are you not doing 'git send email' ?
13:41 nengard owen - i don't have mail set up on my virtualbox - if you can tell me how i will do that instead ... but chris was helping me and said it was easier to just put the patch in an email
13:41 nengard he might have meant just the text and not attaching it as well - but the short of it is that we didn't set up sendmail
13:41 owen nengard: I followed the instructions for specifying an external smtp server for git to use: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage
13:42 owen git config --global sendemail.smtpserver "smtp.address.com"
13:42 owen etc.
13:42 nengard and you used gmail's smtp settings?
13:42 owen That seems to have worked--I used my gmail details
13:42 nengard i'll see if i can do that
13:43 hdl_laptop if you use smtp gmail, you have to set up TLS account
13:44 |Lupin| good day all :)
13:44 |Lupin| nengard: around pls ?
13:45 nengard here - setting up git mail
13:46 |Lupin| nengard: there is a strange things that happens when you send a patch to Koha: I receive it at my personal address in addition to receiving it from the list
13:46 kf nengard: good luck :)
13:46 |Lupin| nengard: do you have an idea why this is so ?
13:46 |Lupin| guten nachmitag kf :)
13:46 kf guten Nachmittag Lupin
13:47 nengard Lupin - no clue - sounds like a list setting - I only send patches to patches@koha.org
13:47 nengard and owen - I set it up and tried to resend today's patch
13:48 |Lupin| for the geeks: the weird thing with nengard mails is that they don't have any header saying through with machines they traveled. They only have four headers: From, Date, Subject, Content-type
13:48 nengard owen and hdl i have an error with the new email setting:
13:48 nengard Can't locate Net/SMTP/SSL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/perl/5.10.0 /home/nengard/kohaclone/ /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/git-send-email line 744.
13:49 owen nengard: ssl not installed?
13:49 owen I had to install that manually when I was setting up the connection between VirtualBox and Windows
13:52 brendan @wunder 93117
13:52 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 4.1�C (5:48 AM PST on December 09, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady).
13:52 owen Sorry nengard, not ssl, ssh
13:52 owen sudo apt-get install openssh-server
13:53 owen So that's probably completely unrelated
13:53 owen I'll stop talking now.
13:53 jdavidb @wunder 20852
13:53 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 4.8�C (8:43 AM EST on December 09, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.19 in 988.4 hPa (Rising).
13:53 brendan beatcha two days in a row jdaivdb
13:53 jdavidb Heh. *still* warmer in MD than in southern CA.
13:54 brendan :)
13:54 owen @wunder 45701
13:54 munin owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 13.3�C (8:47 AM EST on December 09, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.06 in 984.0 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening...
13:55 owen Come over to Ohio, at least until the high winds blow the cold weather back in
13:56 |Lupin| anybody knows whether it is possible to export an acquisition basket somehow, pls ?
13:56 nengard okay - i installed libnet-smtp-ssl-perl and tried again - now i get this: http://koha.pastebin.com/m3fed32d5
13:57 Ropuch libauthen-sasl-perl{
13:57 Ropuch uh
13:57 kf |Lupin|: you can create pdf in new acq 3.2
13:58 |Lupin| kf: but what if you want to pass the marc records to another system ? is that possible ?
13:58 Ropuch nengard: http://koha.pastebin.com/d419962d5
13:58 owen nengard: Maybe you need to sudo apt-get install git-email ?
13:58 Ropuch That packages were installed as dependencies when i installed git-email (ubuntu)
13:59 nengard Woo Hoo!!! looks like it's sending
14:00 nengard we'll see if it comes through
14:00 nengard now gmcharlt around? do you need me to resend all patches? (I hope not - not sure I have them all)
14:00 gmcharlt nengard: nope
14:00 nengard :)
14:00 nengard well I did the most recent one again - just to make sure this all worked
14:00 nengard thanks everyone! you all rock!!!
14:01 nengard owen++
14:01 nengard Ropuch++
14:02 kf |Lupin| sorry, I dont know, perhaps Nicole or someone else has an idea
14:03 nengard Lupid kf - the folks at BibLibre are the best to ask - but I know you couldn't with the acq system before their upgrades
14:03 |Lupin| also, another question: do staff members have to login via OPAC to change their own password, or is there a way to do i from within the staff client ?
14:03 nengard Lupin simply visit the staff member's page under Patrons in the staff client
14:03 nengard and click 'change password'
14:03 |Lupin| nengard: okay, thanks
14:03 kf ok, have to go - bye #koha
14:04 |Lupin| nengard: no I think this does not respond to my question...
14:04 |Lupin| nengard: I mean one staff member to change _his/her_ password, not someone else's password
14:05 |Lupin| nengard: the thing I'm looking for does not require the patrons permission...
14:05 nengard if you want to change the staff member's password you search for them from the patron's interface (even though they're staff) and then you can edit their record - including their password
14:06 nengard if the staff member wants to change his/her own password - they can do it via the OPAC and/or the staff client
14:06 |Lupin| nengard: I would like to know if one staff member can change his or her password from the staff client. I'm not asking how to change the password of another staff member...
14:06 Ropuch gmcharlt: I sent an email to patches@ because of a problem sending patch from git, I attached patch to bug report (as suggested by paul) - can you tell me I if i did it right or need to do it once more in different way?
14:06 owen |Lupin|: The process is the same
14:06 nengard Lupin - yes the staff member can change their own password from the staff client
14:06 nengard they open their account on the patrons interface and click 'change password'
14:07 |Lupin| nengard: yes but that requires the right privileges, which our staff members do not have becuse we don't want to let them play with other's accounts.
14:07 nengard then they can only do it via the OPAC
14:08 |Lupin| nengard: ok, that's what I wanted to know. I think it'd be nice if they could do it from within the staff client, too, this shold not require any permission
14:13 schuster wunder 75035
14:13 owen hdl_laptop or paul_p, could you help me understand how the new patron search filter works?
14:13 schuster @wunder 75035
14:13 munin schuster: The current temperature in Plantation Estates, Frisco, Texas is -4.0�C (8:12 AM CST on December 09, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Rising).
14:16 jdavidb Quite a bit warmer in the DC 'burbs than in the DFW 'burbs this morning.
14:17 |Lupin| if I modify the additemp template so that the submit button works even with js disabled, am I gonna break something ?
14:18 owen |Lupin|: It's possible, but it's a good thing to try
14:18 paul_p owen: & others american ppl: good morning
14:18 paul_p owen: yes, I can, what is your question (about patron filter)
14:19 paul_p @wunder marseille, France
14:19 munin paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 15.0�C (3:00 PM CET on December 09, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
14:19 nengard morning/evening paul_p :)
14:19 owen paul_p: It seems you can begin your search by typing a name in the filter form, correct?
14:19 paul_p owen: yep
14:19 owen Sorry, you *can't* begin your search
14:19 owen At least, it doesn't work for me :)
14:20 |Lupin| is it possible to overload the default theme for intranet at all ? I can't find a syspref to specify another theme for staff...
14:20 paul_p mmm... it's probably a bug then. hdl_laptop, could you confirm ?
14:20 paul_p |Lupin|: you can't quit Koha ? ;-)
14:21 nengard owen, i was able to search patrons and then run a filter on it without a prob
14:21 owen nengard: Right, but you started your search in the top search form, right?
14:21 nengard yes
14:22 nengard where are you searching from?
14:22 gmcharlt Ropuch: that's fine
14:22 owen I'm just trying to figure out if the filter form *only* works on a search begun from the top search form
14:22 |Lupin| paul_p: it was never planned to quit KOha ! I just stopped to be paid to work on it ! now building a Koha-based buddhist library for the blind
14:22 hdl_laptop you should have template and opatchemes sysprefs.
14:22 nengard owen - yes - and i put a bug report in for that
14:23 owen nengard: Oh, I didn't see it
14:23 nengard looking for it now
14:23 owen munin: What's the bug she's looking for?
14:23 munin owen: Error: "What's" is not a valid command.
14:23 owen I guess I didn't say please.
14:23 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: ah for staff it's called template rather than %theme%...
14:23 nengard owen: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3829
14:23 munin 04Bug 3829: major, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Patron Filter Does Nothing
14:24 nengard now for my prob again ... hehe -- I can't seem to rebuild zebra -- here is the log: http://koha.pastebin.com/m2a0fde61
14:24 Ropuch gmcharlt: that's a relief, I was a little bit confused with bugzilla
14:25 Ropuch nengard: sudo?
14:25 nengard Ropuch if it's that easy i'm gonna throw a tantrum :) hehe - hang on
14:26 nengard nope - sudoo has errors too: http://koha.pastebin.com/m5174c820
14:26 Ropuch check if you have /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/biblios/ & zebradb/authorities/ anyway
14:26 Ropuch And export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
14:27 Ropuch export KOHA_CONF=your/koha-conf,xml
14:27 Ropuch ;>
14:27 nengard Ropuch yes i have those directories: http://koha.pastebin.com/m1b19c7b0
14:27 owen nengard: did you add that to your .bashrc file?
14:27 nengard owen yes i did
14:27 nengard ages ago - off to make sure it's still there
14:27 nengard not sure why it wouldn't be
14:28 Ropuch nengard: and you have koha-conf.xml in the same place as it's in your .bashrc export?
14:28 nengard this is in my .bashrc file: export KOHA_CONF=/home/nengard/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml
14:29 nengard Ropuch - just checked - yup
14:31 |Lupin| when creating new theme, is it okay to create jsut the necessary files ? will Koha find the other files (images, scripts) from the default template if they are not provided by the new one ?
14:31 nengard can i just say that i do not like zebra at all!!!
14:31 nengard one day it works and the next not so much
14:31 nengard and the set up is insane
14:31 owen nengard: Zebra seems to always be the hangup
14:31 nengard any other ideas?
14:32 nengard do i need to edit my koha-conf.xml file in some way?
14:32 owen nengard: same errors?
14:32 nengard yes
14:32 nengard but i didn't change anything - everything you guys asked me about was set up right
14:33 nengard brb
14:34 nengard back
14:40 owen nengard: I don't know the answer, but I'll take note of it when you get one because I'm sure it'll happen to me too!
14:40 brendan man I had to scrap ice off my car windows this morning
14:40 brendan not the california I signed up for
14:40 owen brendan: Do they even sell scrapers in California? :)
14:41 brendan not that I have seen
14:41 brendan luckily I had mine in my car still from leaving out east
14:41 brendan I kept it because it's one of those scrapers with a brush on it
14:41 owen brendan: You could set up a side business scraping windshields ;)
14:42 owen "It's the man with the scraper! We're saved!"
14:42 brendan :)
14:42 Ropuch hehe
14:45 brendan nengard - just reading back about your zebra issues
14:45 brendan did you fix it?
14:45 nengard the world is going to hell ... weather makes no sense anymore!
14:45 nengard brendan - nope
14:45 nengard still without a reindexed system :)
14:45 brendan I think you're going to have to chown those directories
14:45 nengard ah
14:45 brendan so something like
14:46 brendan chown -R nengard:negard /home/nengard/koha-dev
14:46 nengard so i need to be owner - not the koha user?
14:47 brendan do you have the same zebrauser as your koha user
14:47 nengard uh .... how would i check that? I don't remember what I did when i set it up ages ago
14:47 brendan IRC it should be in your koha-conf
14:48 nengard k
14:48 brendan one thing you could do is
14:48 brendan ls -lh
14:48 brendan when you navigate to that directory
14:48 brendan one sec - let me look at your paste again
14:49 nengard from my koha-conf:
14:49 nengard <user>kohauser</user>
14:49 nengard <password>zebrastripes</password>
14:50 brendan did you ever create that user?
14:50 nengard who knows :) -- I'm sorry - I set this up during a pretty stressed out time in my life - I was just following instructions and not remembering a thing
14:51 nengard one thing to note here - I have had zebra index before - and I haven't added users or anything since then
14:52 brendan do a ps -aef | grep zebra
14:52 brendan and paste your results
14:54 nengard http://koha.pastebin.com/m76b1ef88
15:04 owen Should it not be possible to create a routing list if you have not received any issues for that serial?
15:06 jwagner owen, I would think so, but I was just in experimenting with serials earlier this morning, and I didn't see any way.
15:07 owen jwagner: I should rephrase it: Should one be prevented from creating a routing list for a serial with no issues?
15:07 owen the edit routing list interface includes a line for choosing an issue
15:08 owen At the moment it's displaying as blank because I haven't received any issues
15:08 owen I wonder if that's going to be a problem
15:11 owen hdl_laptop, paul_p: routing.pl doesn't seem to have any place to store patron data for submission. No input fields for borrowernumber
15:13 paul_p owen: I don't think we did anything on this feature. so it's either a merge bug, or someone else to ask, sorry ( hdl_laptop, pls confirm )
15:15 owen Okay, maybe I've just never tried it before.
15:39 |Lupin| pls, what's the meaning fo items.dateaccessioned column ?
15:39 owen That is the date the item was added
15:49 |Lupin| owen: oh... why s it called that way ? is "accessioned" librarian terminology ?
15:49 |Lupin| owen: thanks a lot, btw
15:50 owen I guess it must be library terminology. I've never heard it anywhere else!
15:53 |Lupin| owen: ok, me neither :)
15:56 |Lupin| owen: just tried to create a new theme with additem.tmpl fixed: it works without javascripts.
15:57 |Lupin| owen: actually, the only thing the scripts do for the simple "Add item" button is to check that all the mandatory fields have been filled
15:59 |Lupin| k, gotta go
15:59 |Lupin| till soon, everybody
16:05 schuster Owen - I have a question about printing the edit item screen.
16:23 owen schuster: I'm back, what's up?
16:32 schuster Curious as to when we click edit on the item screen and you print why all the cells print empty even though they show up on the print preview.
16:34 owen schuster: Interesting. You open the item edit screen, you click to edit a particular item, then you choose "print" from the browser's file menu?
16:36 owen schuster: It's working for me in Firefox
16:43 nengard hi all - anyone using task scheduler in their libraries with success? I asked on list but got nada - and I want to be able to document it - but I can't cause I can't get it to work :(
16:44 nengard owen - FF is always the answer - Firefox is the best!
16:44 jwagner owen, oh great font of all knowledge on stylesheets :-) which setting would I modify to change the page background color? I tried changing body { background-color : white to the color I wanted but that didn't seem to do anything.
16:44 owen jwagner: OPAC?
16:44 jwagner Yes, sorry.
16:45 jwagner Oops -- never mind, I got it to work -- had a typo in my line!
16:45 |Lupin| hi again :)
16:45 schuster owen - it prints - but the boxes are empty
16:46 |Lupin| back for a few minutes
16:46 owen schuster: Sorry, I'm not getting the same results
16:47 |Lupin| is there a way to see a list of all sites in OPAC, pls ?
16:47 schuster hmmm interesting what version of FF are you on?
16:48 * owen has got to go home and try to head off this cold
16:53 nengard I'm trying to install the koha offline circ tool on mac (http://kylehall.info/index.php/projects/koha-tools/koha-offline-circulation/) and the instructions for PHP-GTK says I need X ... what is X ??
16:54 nengard "You need to make sure you have the Apple Developer Tools, BSD Subsystem, and an installation of X before you try installing PHP-GTK 2"
16:54 schuster Why don't you use the NEW and improved FireFox plugin!!! Much better!
16:55 nengard schuster - where do i get it - and i have to use them both cause i have to do the documentation for both :)
16:59 nicomo nengard: there's a version uploaded on the add-ons repo accessible through firefox
16:59 nicomo it's in sandbox stage
17:00 nicomo https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/14399
17:01 nicomo a new-new version is on the way for the next release
17:01 nengard thanks nicomo
17:01 nengard i'll add that to my list so i document that one too :)
17:02 nicomo basically this version works without changing the management of .koc files in Koha
17:02 nengard nicomo - ff page reads "This add-on is for older versions of Firefox"
17:02 nicomo ah yes, just saw that
17:02 brendan heya nicomo
17:02 brendan how are you doing?
17:03 nicomo nicole: please open a bug and put it to jeanandre.santoni@biblibre.com
17:03 nicomo hi brendan
17:03 nengard will do
17:03 nicomo I'm fine, thanks, I'm not the one having to de-ice my car ;-)
17:03 nicomo how are you?
17:05 nengard bug 3885 added
17:05 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3885 normal, P5, ---, jeanandre.santoni@biblibre.com, NEW, Koha Circ Tool for Firefox out of date
17:05 nengard now - back to the original question - anyone know what X is?
17:06 nicomo nengard: maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
17:06 nicomo ?
17:06 nicomo not sure
17:07 nengard nicomo - oh!!! I already have that :)
17:07 nengard awesome
17:07 nengard hehe
17:07 nengard off to try and get this thing installed
17:12 schuster hmmm I have it installed so would have to look at the instructions again later. I'm in a class right now so can't look at it.
17:13 CGI985 Possible to connect to different server through here?
17:15 CGI985 Hello?
17:18 CGI985 Anyone here?
17:19 CGI985 Anyone know if it's possible to get onto another server through this chat?
17:27 nicomo nengard: around?
17:27 nengard here
17:27 nicomo I'm starting including the doc I wrote about SRU in your manual.xml file
17:27 nicomo have you inserted code or snippets of xml in the docbook file already?
17:29 nicomo and if so, which tag did you use?
17:29 nicomo <code> element inline?
17:30 nicomo <programlisting role="XML"><![CDATA[ my snippet of XML?
17:30 nengard <programlisting>
17:30 nicomo ok
17:30 nengard and yes i have you can see it in my example in the SOPAC part of the documentation
17:30 nengard chapter 12 i think
17:30 nicomo ok cool
17:30 nicomo thanks
17:30 nengard http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=kohadocs;a=blobdiff;f=en/koha3-2manual.xml;h=bad86ebeab2c31986bede7ebf950016f56724083;hp=2a0ced90bff244837f1e62e76ff54fe37fab27ce;hb=c32882634c2c53c76c22a03fc3feb5e245517c6c;hpb=f247fa31965e18a88a7f3cbf6ae5d95ae6725559
17:30 nengard :)
17:30 nengard no prob
17:31 nengard now - are you adding to the french or the english manual?
17:31 nengard I set up a folder for a french version
17:32 nicomo english
17:32 nicomo I've seen the french dir
17:32 nicomo but I write in English
17:32 nicomo and we'll translate afterwards
17:37 nengard works for me! :)
17:40 ccurry Hello all.
17:44 ccurry Just installed Koha 3.01.00.100 on Debian Lenny. I've been honing my install process over the last few months. I recently installed 3.01.00.061 with no problems. I imported my test batch into the latest install in indexed. When I search the opac and the intranet catalog, I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/m669548bd. The bibs did get imported. I was able to directly access...
17:44 ccurry ...records with http://eucalyptusopac.amphilsoc.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1. Any thoughts? I compared the c4 directories and it looks like there have been significant changes. Am I a victim of the ramp up to 3.2? I'm using git to pull the latest version.
17:44 ccurry *I imported my test batch into the latest install AND indexed.
17:45 brendan ccurry - you'll need to install Lingua::Stem::Snowball
17:45 brendan that hasn't made it into HEAD yet
17:46 ccurry btw, that opac url is internal...meant to just past the part after cgi-bin. brendan: thanks. I'll try that.
17:48 ccurry git question: should I be pointing my git syncing somewhere more stable? It's not entirely clear to me how I can control the source of my git clone. I followed the instructions in INSTALL.debian.lenny: 1.4.1 Option A: Download Koha via Git
17:53 ccurry I had another issue with cpan when trying to install PDF::API2::Simple. cgi-bin/koha/about.pl tells me that this module is missing, but an attempt to install it returns: "'/usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=site' returned status 512, won't make"
18:32 schuster nengard sorry I'm on windows not mac so can't help you.
18:33 nengard i knew that - was confused about what you were gonna check
18:38 schuster What X meant on your instructions, but mine are different since I'm on a pc.
18:39 Ropuch Whoa, I've found another bug I can fix & patch ;>
18:40 nengard schuster - found it - it's X11
18:41 schuster OK was wondering if it was one of those X = 10 type deals... whew.
18:42 Ropuch Should I report the bug first and include bug no in patch description?
18:42 nengard Ropuch yes
18:42 schuster Anyone have instructions on how you installed 3.2 without the full package yet? I was thinking about setting up an old PC at home and getting it fired up.
18:43 schuster Playing with git etc...
18:43 nengard schuster - it's on the wiki - hang on
18:43 schuster OH YOU ARE A GEM!
18:43 nengard mainly this line: git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone
18:43 nengard http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage&s[]=git
18:43 Ropuch git clone git://git.librarypolice.com/git/koha-rm.git 3.2-rm
18:43 nengard of course you need git installed
18:43 Ropuch ;>
18:44 Ropuch hm
18:44 schuster hmmm ok another step I will probably need to learn!
18:44 schuster thanks
18:44 nengard np
18:44 Ropuch nengard: the repo you pasted is last 3.2?
18:45 nengard Ropuch - it's Head
18:45 nengard which is 3.2 right now
18:45 Ropuch crap
18:45 nengard there is no other branch for it yet
18:45 nengard gmcharlt said he'd create a branch sometime soon
18:45 Ropuch I'm playing with the one I've just pasted
18:45 Ropuch Switching to proper one then ;>
18:46 nengard Ropuch the one you pasted is gmcharlt's working copy
18:46 nengard so it too is probably 3.2 - but we're all talking about HEAD when we are posting 3.2 quesitons and bugs - I think...
18:48 Ropuch The good part is the patch I've submitted is creating polish directories in installer, so it should work just fine in HEAD
18:49 Ropuch I'm so glad I've took a look at irc at this particular moment ';>
19:05 sekjal hmmm.... git pull isn't working for me. says unable to look up git.koha.org (port 9418) (Name or service not known)
19:05 sekjal can anyone quickly tell me if this is my problem, or something up with git.koha.org?
19:09 masonj its ok for me in NZ..
19:15 sekjal thanks, masonj. it's probably me
19:20 Ropuch sekjal: git pull woks for me also (Poland)
19:27 brendan @wunder 93117
19:27 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.2�C (11:25 AM PST on December 09, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling).
19:27 sekjal Ropuch: thanks. this is totally on my end; my DNS isn't properly set
19:28 sekjal must have gone down when I restarted the machine.
19:37 richard hi
19:37 brendan hello richard
19:38 richard hi brendan
19:39 Genji Morning all.
19:42 Ropuch Hello
19:43 ccurry anyone know why I might not be able to add authorized values at /cgi-bin/koha/admin/authorised_values.pl?op=add_form&category=LOC on Koha 3.01.00.100 on Debian Lenny (from HEAD)? I get no error messages; the values just aren't added.
19:43 Ropuch ccurry: do you have zebra enabled?
19:44 ccurry yep
19:44 Ropuch If yes, you need to rebuild it for new added entry to be searchable
19:44 ccurry I realize that, but I can't even get them to show up in the list of authorized values.
19:45 chris nothing in the apache error logs?
19:47 ccurry just "File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/favicon.ico" in koha-error_log
19:47 ccurry There are errors in the zebra logs, but I think they're unrelated.
19:48 ccurry permission denied errors from when I tried to rebuild zebra without su-ing
19:48 Genji then you need to repair that permissions damage you did, ccurry.
19:51 Genji ensure /var/lock/koha and subdirectories, and /var/lib/koha and subdirectories, are all owned by user koha group koha.
19:52 ccurry Genji: ok...I'll try that. Is this why my LOC authorized values won't stick?
19:52 chris ccurry: what about in the main apache2 error log, and yes you are right the zebra errors are totally unrelated
19:52 chris you will want to fix them, but they will not be causing the authorized values not saving
19:54 ccurry ok; now we're getting somewhere...I can't believe I forgot to check the main apache logs....http://pastebin.com/mc45709
19:54 Genji huh... thats interesting.
19:54 chris there ya go, thats a bug, can you file a bug at bugs.koha.org please and put that code snippet in there
19:55 CGI775 hi
19:55 chris (its not super suprising, there were about 500 patches merged in recently, so we are in full testing/fixing mode)
19:56 Genji updatedatabase is supposed to of added this column.
19:57 Genji http://paste.workbuffer.org/75
19:57 Genji 8 lines down the log.
19:58 ccurry chris: I'd be happy to submit the bug. Is the detail I've given so far sufficient? I've never submitted a bug before.
19:58 chris yes, you could als note what Genji said, that updatedatbase should have created it
19:59 Ropuch I was just to look into it as I'm fixing some db update errors
19:59 Genji ccurry: what version are you running? have you upgraded it recently?
19:59 chris Genji: he is running head, 3.01.100 (what will be 3.2)
20:00 chris so the latest code in the master branch
20:00 Genji Right... which should already have the lib_opac in place, unless someone forgot to update sql_structure?
20:02 hdl_laptop ccurry: Genji I am about to send a patch for updatedatabase
20:02 Genji Hmm.. someone could give him the parameters necessary to create the lib_opac column, I imagine?
20:02 Genji oh hi, hdl_laptop.
20:02 hdl_laptop And I will see if kohastructure lacks that column
20:03 Genji BTW, your default.idx snippet, was a huge help in fixing my numeric indexing.
20:03 Ropuch Hm, i have lib_opac in authorised values after upgrading
20:03 ccurry chris: re:running head. I've only recently realized that this is what I was doing by downloading koha from git using: git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone. I thought this was pulling from the current stable version. Can someone direct me to documentation for adjusting this command to target the current stable version?
20:04 chris you do exactly that
20:04 chris but then you do
20:04 chris git checkout -b 3.0.x --track origin/3.0.x
20:04 chris and now you are in the 3.0.x (stable) branch
20:04 ccurry ah good to know
20:04 ccurry thanks
20:04 Ropuch hdl_laptop: lib_opac is in updatedatabase.pl but it's not present in kohastructure.sql
20:05 Genji Bingo.
20:06 Genji Ropuch: can you cut and paste the line to execute, for creating lib_opac?
20:07 Ropuch Genji: ALTER TABLE authorised_values ADD COLUMN `lib_opac` VARCHAR(80) default NULL AFTER `lib`
20:08 Ropuch and ; at the end ;>
20:08 Genji ccurry: There you go. Run that in a mysqlclient session, and you'll be away.
20:08 Ropuch ccurry: issue a bug anyway
20:09 ccurry Sweet. Thanks.
20:09 Ropuch Or I can do this along with sending patch
20:10 ccurry Ropuch: I'd be happy to submit the bug, but I've never reported a bug before and don't really know the process or what level of detail is necessary. If you'd be willing to submit the bug, and send me the link, I'll have a look and use it as a learning experience.
20:14 Ropuch ccurry: you'll never know untill you try, I'm amateur at this, bugzilla cunfuses me too :)
20:15 ccurry Ropuch: Ok. Here goes.
20:15 Ropuch ;)
20:26 Ropuch Wghere should i sent patches: koha-patches@lists.koha.org or patches@koha.org?
20:27 chris the first one
20:27 chris the second is just a redirect
20:29 Ropuch sent!
20:29 Ropuch :)
20:30 Ropuch I forget to issue a bug first and include it number in patch
20:32 ccurry http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3887
20:32 munin 04Bug 3887: blocker, P1, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Adding Authorized Values
20:32 |Lupin| back
20:36 ccurry question regarding upgrading: Can I use "make upgrade" to change my current installation from HEAD to the stable 3.0.x branch? If so, is there a predictable place to look for the file I need for "--prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log," referenced in INSTALL.debian.lenny
20:36 ccurry ?
20:37 pianohacker hola
20:37 Ropuch Hi pianohacker
20:37 pianohacker Hi ropuch
20:37 Ropuch ccurry: I'm not sure if upgrade is meant for degrading ;>
20:38 ccurry I thought I might take this opportunity to test upgrading, but I guess I can use the 3.2 release for that.
20:39 ccurry Any idea about my other question? predictable place to look for the file I need for "--prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log," referenced in INSTALL.debian.lenny
20:40 pianohacker ccurry: it'll be in your koha install path, under misc
20:40 chris yeah you cant downgrade with it
20:40 ccurry pianohacker: awesome. thanks
20:41 ccurry chris: I thought that might be a stretch. 'twas worth a try
20:42 |Lupin| hello jesse ! :)
20:44 pianohacker Hi |Lupin|
20:44 |Lupin| greeting chris
20:44 |Lupin| could one of you pls tell me whether it is possible to see a list of branches in the OPAC ?
20:45 pianohacker not at the moment, I don't think, why do you ask?
20:45 cait1 just see them? there is a search limit in advanced search
20:46 Ropuch yup
20:46 pianohacker ah, okay
20:49 sekjal just pulled the latest HEAD from git; any place for me to look to see what new Perl modules are required? I can't login in until I get Authen/CAS/Client.pm, apparently
20:49 |Lupin| pianohacker: our organisation is interested because the branches are used to store our partners that produce books in embossed braille thanks to our digital files, so it would be nice to be able to see the list from OPAC, jsut to show how many partners there are...
20:50 pianohacker ah
20:50 |Lupin| cait1: ah yeah... but that's not very elegant... perhaps I could copy one script from the staff client into the opac part to make them available
20:51 pianohacker |Lupin|: There's a syspref (whose name I can't remember), where you can put static content on the main page of the OPAC
20:51 pianohacker If you don't mind maintaining it manually, it would at least show up
20:52 cait1 lupin: you could add the list to mainuserblock oder opacnavigation manually
20:52 |Lupin| cait1: gute idee, danke :)
20:52 * |Lupin| likes when a few german words appear in cait1's texts :)
20:53 |Lupin| actually, it's be nice if the system preferences you guys are mentionning would be template-interpreted...
20:54 cait1 lupin: or use tools > news, you can have different lists for english and french this way
20:56 jwagner sekjal, I was trying to keep a list of the Perl dependencies people mentioned -- here's what I have as new: YAML.pm, PDF::Table, PDF::API2::Simple, Lingua::Stem::Snowball, Number::Format, Authen::CAS::Client
20:56 |Lupin| cait1: hmm the thing is we hcurrently have something like hundreed partners, so any manual way seems rather cumbersome...
20:56 sekjal thanks, jwagner. I'll see about installing them
20:57 jwagner Anyone know of any others?
20:58 cait1 lupin: perhaps you can write something to generate a list and add it to a news item or one of the sys prefs?
20:59 sekjal I have some notes here from a previous attempt at Make: Storable 2.21, Memoize::Memcached 0.03, IPC::Cmd 0.46
20:59 jwagner Is that from the new head?
21:00 sekjal may be a couple versions back.
21:00 pianohacker Those are definitely required though, especially ipc::cmd, as the web installer depends on it
21:02 |Lupin| cait1: yeah that sounds interesting !
21:03 |Lupin| cait1: wouldn't it be too much, tough, to have all nearly 100 branches displayed ?
21:03 pianohacker |Lupin|: Isn't that what you're asking for?
21:07 Ropuch pianohacker: I don't have up-to-date IPC::Cmd and installing (and upgrading) works for me
21:08 pianohacker Ropuch: You don't have it up to date, or you don't have it at all?
21:08 Ropuch I do have it, isn't a part of perl itself?
21:08 cait1 lupin: much, but too much? dont know, you could group them perhaps to make it easier to read
21:10 Ropuch Hm, I could be wrong
21:10 Ropuch I have problems installing PDF::API2::Simple from cpan
21:10 sekjal Ropuch: me, too
21:10 sekjal something about Module::Install not being found. so I'm installing that first, then I'll try again
21:12 Ropuch O, I'll try that too
21:12 sekjal not working so well for me. still getting "Make had some problems", and it won't test or install
21:13 Ropuch sekjal: isntalling limodule-install-perl solved the problem for me
21:13 Ropuch libmodule-install-perl (ubuntu)
21:15 sekjal getting "cannot find method 'write_meta' in Module/Install/Admin.pm line 186
21:33 |Lupin| cait1: yes, perhaps. Anyway thansk for your suggestions, they are inspiring.
21:33 cait1 Lupin: gern geschehen
21:35 |Lupin| cait1: :)
21:35 |Lupin| cait1: we have this phrase in the dialect spoken in elsass, too ! :)
21:36 cait1 :)
21:40 sekjal I installed Module::Install from CPAN, and then again as a debian package. Should I go back and try to delete the CPAN install?
21:40 sekjal I'm still not getting PDF::API2::Simple to make
21:42 |Lupin| okay, this day ws long enough... goto bed;
21:42 |Lupin| goodnight, all !
21:43 |Lupin| tschüs cait1, shlaf gut !
21:45 hdl_laptop Is there a problem on git.koha.org ?
21:46 sekjal no, anything I said was my fault
21:47 * sekjal hopes nothing has actually happened since
21:54 jwagner @add quote <sekjal> no, anything I said was my fault
21:54 pianohacker bbl
21:54 munin jwagner: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, Bugzilla, Herald, Lart, News, Quote, and Todo plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
21:54 jwagner @quote add <sekjal> no, anything I said was my fault
21:54 munin jwagner: The operation succeeded. Quote #48 added.
21:54 jwagner I thought that would be a useful one to remember :-)
21:55 sekjal :)
21:56 jwagner @quote random
21:56 munin jwagner: Quote #28: "<owen> I'm glad munin doesn't follow me around all day remembering *everything* I say." (added by jdavidb at 09:14 AM, September 01, 2009)
22:09 hdl_laptop chris around ?
22:09 hdl_laptop chris_n2_ hi
22:10 hdl_laptop are you there ?
22:16 chris back
22:21 hdl_laptop hi
22:21 hdl_laptop chris_n2 I sent you a patch for updatedatabase
22:22 chris ?
22:22 hdl_laptop chris I am not mistaking persons.
22:22 chris ah good :)
22:33 Nate gnight #koha
22:54 cait1 good night #koha
22:56 imp somehow my koha got problems displaying records with arabic letters inside (results in an error page saying: Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /mnt2/koha-install/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 3579. )
22:57 imp any pointers? (maybe some consequences from updating to .4 ?)
22:58 imp opac-detail.pl: problem with :33 : Cannot decode string with wide characters at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.1/sparc-linux/Encode.pm line 174.
23:05 hdl_laptop imp: this looks like a problem with your SAX PARSER
23:05 hdl_laptop imp: have you checked misc/sax_parser_print ?
23:05 hdl_laptop your biblio must have been broken
23:06 imp there's no problem with records which are only in german
23:08 hdl_laptop can you please do the test ?
23:10 imp hdl_laptop: http://pastebin.ca/1708895
23:10 hdl_laptop thanks.
23:10 hdl_laptop So you have a problem.
23:12 * imp starts looking around in the portage tree - there are many different libxml packages for perl
23:16 hdl_laptop to solve that : you have to use XML::LibXML
23:17 hdl_laptop And XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser
23:17 hdl_laptop you can use Parserdetails.ini to fix that if you have XML::LibXML installed.
23:18 imp it's rebuilding the first one right now and creating the ebuilds for the second one *waiting* :)
23:21 imp hm, the "you have"-line changend to: XML::LibXML::SAX=HASH(0xb9d70)
23:21 imp and it's working again :)
23:22 imp thanks hdl_laptop :)
23:22 imp hdl_laptop++
23:22 chris imp: i suspect that rick on the mailing list has the same problem if you have time to reply to him that would be great
23:23 chris http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2009-December/021785.html
23:25 imp chris: i can give him the same pointer, but his problem looks a little bit different to me, we'll see
23:25 chris ahh i just saw the wide character bit :)
23:26 chris yes you might be right, i think that is a different one
23:26 imp does the import function depends as well on the sax parser?
23:27 chris nope
23:27 chris yeah its a different one
23:29 imp ^^
23:29 * chris replies
23:37 chris_n hdl_laptop: I saw your patch and will try it over the weekend
23:38 chris_n I'm at nearly 72 hours of work with about 10 hours of sleep and lots more hours left and so will not think clearly to try it before then
23:38 chris_n :-P