Time Nick Message 23:59 pianohacker (I think ccl) 23:59 pianohacker Genji: yaz-client uses PQF (the @attr stuff) by default; you would need to set it to ccl syntax to search using word indexes 23:58 pianohacker Genji: What about a plain find @attr 1=31 1981 ? 23:57 Genji Im guessing, the default 'find' is word index based? 23:57 Genji Not really, just explicitly say that Im looking for equality. with 4=109, 2=4 is successful (no result when there should be though) 23:56 pianohacker What is the @attr 2=3 for? I'm guessing it's a comparison attribute, but why is it necessary? 23:55 Genji For 31. 23:55 Genji Unsupported Use attribute 23:55 Genji find @attr 1=31 @attr 2=3 1981 23:55 Genji No results, search successful. There should be results. 23:54 Genji find @attr 1=31 @attr 2=3 @attr 4=109 1981 23:54 Genji open localhost:9999 (sucessful, im in) 23:54 Genji auth koha kohap 23:52 pianohacker Genji: What is the exact procedure you're using to search? 23:52 Genji Without 4=109.. I get Unsupported Use Attribute. 23:51 Genji okay, just reindexed with 260$c pubdate:n, pubdate:s ..... im getting no results with 4=109 23:47 Genji hdl_laptop's paste showed up in google. 23:46 Genji Wow.. google has started doing almost realtime updates. 23:25 pianohacker It depends a lot on where we go after noche buena (dec 24th) 23:24 pianohacker To be sure, we need to get it out there 23:23 * Genji nods.... "So, its likely more people will get ensnared in Liblime unknowingly?" 23:22 pianohacker Demonizing liblime, as utterly tempting as it might be, would probably only cause them to dig in further and make any reconciliation more difficult 23:22 pianohacker Calmly putting out the facts might help 23:21 pianohacker Genji: Would depend heavily on the tone :) 23:21 chris its only defamation if its not true 23:21 Genji Creating a webpage to out all this publicly, would be classed defamation? 23:21 pianohacker technicalities--- 23:20 * Genji nods. "I feel your pain." 23:20 chris i hear that 23:18 pianohacker Regardless of how much of a part we played, it is still annoying 23:18 pianohacker I'm particularly annoyed because me and two coworkers have been demonstrating and pushing open-source to ASCC and CLiC (a supporting group) for about a year now, and demoing koha, and really trying to encourage a move to Koha by ASCC through liblime which was at the time trustworthy 23:16 pianohacker late 23:16 * pianohacker is coming to the discussion of ascc's go-live 23:03 SelfishMan well, link is valid just ignore the wget junk ;-P 23:03 SelfishMan ah, dammit 23:03 SelfishMan I moved the wiki archive if anyone still needs it. New address is wget -O /dev/null http://cdn.bitl.in/wiki.koha.org-12042009.tar.bz2 22:58 ian asks all and sundry: how do you ask for the biblionumbers of all items from the reserves tables for where there are, say 10 or more reserves on the bib? 22:01 Genji suppose i could take away its W. 22:00 hdl_laptop Good night 22:00 hdl_laptop maybe it is also indexed as w and messed the stuff. 21:59 hdl_laptop and not w ? 21:59 hdl_laptop have you checked it was indexed as n ? 21:59 hdl_laptop annoying. 21:58 Genji hdl_laptop: Yes, pubdate is being indexed. 21:57 hdl_laptop Going to bed now. 21:57 hdl_laptop have you checked 260$c is indexed as pubdate ? 21:50 Genji Hmm.... everything was changed from copydate to pubdate instead. In bib1.att, and record.abs 21:49 brendan at least from my record.abs 21:49 brendan copydate [yyyy] (260$c, indexed in word and sort indexes) 21:48 brendan so I think your going to want to change that to search the copydate 21:48 brendan which is pulled from 008/7-10, indexed in year,word,num,sort indexes 21:48 brendan advance search in the opac - is for pubdate 21:47 Genji brendan: the library im working for, put pubdate in 260$c 21:47 hdl_laptop It is in numeric.chr 21:47 brendan pubdate is in the leader 008 21:47 Genji hmm.. whats Breaking characters? 21:47 brendan Genji - I believe 260$c is the copydate 21:46 hdl_laptop see http://paste.workbuffer.org/83 21:45 Genji Ah. Whats your record.abs line for pubdate? 21:44 hdl_laptop Genji: I donot have any 008 : Unimarc 21:44 Genji im dealing with pubdate inside of 260$c... 21:44 owen Ropuch: That was either a returning troll or a returning bot 21:44 Genji hdl_laptop: ya.... but thats pubdate inside 008. 21:41 Ropuch Am I interested in computer software? It's like asking if I'm interested in eating food 21:41 hdl_laptop And it worked. 21:41 Ropuch wow 21:41 hdl_laptop Genji: I tried your search. 21:40 pastebot "hdl_laptop" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "searching dates with relational elements" (16 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/82 21:40 CGI508 hey ropuch! Do u have an interest in computer software? 21:39 Ropuch Hello Nelson 21:38 CGI508 hey guys 21:37 CGI508 hi my name is nelson 21:37 Ropuch I must have messed something, i have 3932 total in opac when other langauages have 5865 21:34 Ropuch Indeed [; 21:34 chris cool 21:33 Ropuch But i have the rights to change translations, thanks :) 21:33 Ropuch And I was sure same should appear by 3.2 21:32 Ropuch chris: sorry, you're right: I have "Administrate" link near 3.0 projects 21:32 wizzyrea (and I sent the instructions on how to fix it to them) 21:32 wizzyrea (I did get a one day turnaround on a SIP config change last week, but that was abnormal( 21:31 wizzyrea Genji: if by support you mean helping resolve issues related to your koha install, then little support is correct. 21:30 chris you have overview, archive, view, suggest, translate,compile po files rights 21:30 Ropuch Hm 21:30 chris Ropuch: yes i did that last night when you asked :) 21:30 Nate scratch that...sorry 21:29 chris Nate: 2 migrations? 21:29 cait good night #koha 21:29 chris i thought i already did that last night? 21:28 Ropuch chris: can you give me admin rights to polish 3.2 translations? 21:28 Nate whos got 2 migrations? 21:24 Genji The email on Koha suggest little support. if any. 21:23 chris only LL customers could tell you that 21:21 Genji LL support = no support? 21:18 chris yeah, i hope thats not the case 21:18 Ropuch The other sad option is that they just don't care 21:12 chris well yeah, they have probably signed a 3 year deal or something 21:12 Genji might be too late, already. 21:12 chris they'll figure it out 21:04 Genji Think someone should tell them? 21:03 chris and i wonder if ASCC even realise they don't have Koha 21:02 chris i dont think the number matters it the lack of ethics and lies that matter 21:02 chris so maybe 7 21:02 chris then ryan as well, and susan 21:01 chris joshua, tina, marc, bev, cecilia, maria 21:01 Genji Okay, at least 5..... supporting how many libraries? 21:01 chris but not just one 21:01 chris (lots less than the 16 or so) 21:01 chris there are at least 5 people at liblime 21:01 chris no its not 20:59 Genji Its possibly just one guy. 20:57 pie I can't believe they're still talking about Open Source, when nothing they do is related at all 20:55 cait :( 20:54 chris so does that line 20:54 chris LibLime Enterprise Koha is built on over two years of completed customer-sponsored development, including several highly-anticipated academic and consortia features. 20:54 Ropuch Same as "no vendor loc-in" as a part of LEK features 20:53 chris it makes me angry 20:53 Ropuch But still it makes me nervous ;> 20:53 Ropuch I know 20:53 chris its true 20:53 Genji Ya, noticed that. 20:52 Ropuch LibLime and the LibLime logo, Koha and LibLime Enterprise Koha are either registered trademarks or trademarks of LibLime. 20:51 Genji liblime-- 20:51 Genji idiots... 20:47 chris liblime-- 20:47 chris http://blog.cr2.in/2009/12/07/liswire-ascc-consortium-in-colorado-now-live-on-liblime-enterprise-koha/ 20:40 Genji hdl_laptop: used prefix language too.. same result. 20:40 hdl_laptop (well, in fact I used pqf search directly) 20:40 hdl_laptop so I am surprised. 20:40 hdl_laptop I used st-year with success with relationals. 20:39 Genji hdl_laptop: Indexed field by y and n..... st-numeric= doesn't work... st-year only works if its =, doesn't support relationals either. 20:39 hdl_laptop It is quite surprising. 20:39 hdl_laptop i saw you tried with date and it was a semi success. 20:38 Genji hdl_laptop: im trying to do ,st-numeric,ge but get relational not supported. 20:37 owen thanks hdl_laptop, I'll have to look into it when I'm back on that computer. 20:37 hdl_laptop Genji: ask. 20:37 hdl_laptop owen: I think virtualbox can be told which IP to set to a virtual machine. If not, you could add your localmachine to /etc/hosts and use the name you choos in /etc/hosts 20:35 hdl_laptop depends 20:34 Genji Anyone know Zebra innards here? 20:31 owen VirtualBox 20:31 hdl_laptop mmm is it a VirtualBox or a VMware virtual box ? 20:29 owen I'm not sure about ssh://localmachine when the local machine is a virtual one. 20:27 hdl_laptop owen: clearer ? 20:27 hdl_laptop git rebase owen/branchyouworkon 20:26 hdl_laptop git remote update owen 20:26 hdl_laptop and you have a cron which does : 20:26 hdl_laptop git remote add owen ssh://localmachine/mylocalrepo 20:25 hdl_laptop on the remote repo you add a remote source 20:25 owen Still confused. I don't understand how changes to my local branch are making it to the remote repo 20:25 hdl_laptop at least it is my experience, maybe chris or #git can confirm. 20:24 hdl_laptop I say so because pushing or making a hook in your machine A doesnot seem to be the correct way to do things. 20:23 hdl_laptop is it somewhat clearer ? 20:23 hdl_laptop which updates regularly the code of machine B based on machine A 20:22 hdl_laptop you can have a cronjob 20:22 hdl_laptop and machine B has a clone of this repository and has a branch Mylocalblabla tracking branch blabla of machine A 20:21 hdl_laptop lets say machine A contains branch blabla 20:21 owen Can you explain? 20:20 hdl_laptop I think you could do it with regular git pull --rebase from a repository. 20:20 hdl_laptop about your remote server. 20:19 hdl_laptop or confirm 20:19 hdl_laptop but chris_n can object. 20:19 hdl_laptop only because chris_n heavily rewrote this part, and it should make its way, and i think he had no time to adapt those tests to what he wrote. 20:17 owen But yeah, why wouldn't I want to print labels? :) 20:17 owen I was just curious about how to analyze those errors. Those were actually someone else's errors (he left) 20:16 hdl_laptop owen: the "make test" pastebin reported no real blocker error, unless you want to print labels. 20:12 hdl_laptop hi chris 20:06 veryinky :| 19:48 richard hi 19:44 owen I can set up a remote git repo, but I'm not sure what the correct procedure is for syncing with it 19:44 owen Now that I'm working on VM's instead of a remote server I'm thinking about how to coordinate my work with git 19:43 * cait translating :) 19:42 chris hiya cait 19:39 cait hi chris 19:36 chris back 19:25 joetho good enough for me. Thanks nicole engard and MERRY CHRISTMAS MONTH! 19:21 nengard it's the 3.0x working branch 19:21 nengard I think you want this one: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha-maintenance.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=11cfbc9c53a45725db55e25514b4c0cf80edc8dd;hb=HEAD 19:20 nengard joetho that's for HEAD - meaning the working branch where we're all submitting patches and such 19:19 nengard pianohacker - did you know about the new sys prefs added by the recent biblibre updates? if not should I bug report them to you so you know to add them to the sys prefs additions? 19:19 joetho ( table structure ) 19:19 joetho http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob_plain;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;hb=HEAD 19:19 joetho I use this as my reference for making up reports- is it the current one for version 3.01? 19:18 cait :) 19:18 nengard and just telling you all so i can take a break from staring at the docs :) hehe 19:18 nengard k - done with the cataloging bibs & items documentation ... moving along nicely 19:07 cait hi pianohacker, hi all 19:07 pianohacker hi, cait 18:42 * chris goes to catch his bus 18:42 brendan heh 18:42 owen Aye aye Cap'n. 18:41 chris at the moment, there is no way for you to know owen, so its best to just ignore it and continue 18:41 chris well, really nothing should fail except maybe the database tests (if you dont have a database set up) so tests failing should actually be a bug and should be fixed ... or actually be a problem, the user shouldnt have to guess wether its a safe fail or not 18:36 owen How does one know whether a failure is worth worrying about? 18:36 pianohacker The date tests seem to fail a lot, for no appreciable reason 18:34 pianohacker Depends on the failures 18:30 owen I'm still curious about CGI985's question if anyone knows the answer: If "make test" shows some failures, should one be concerned? 18:10 CGI985 hi 18:10 pianohacker Hallo 17:55 CGI985 so should I continue and skip or fixed it 17:55 CGI985 can any body guide me that I notice some erros during make test 17:54 CGI985 Im waiting for response of any 17:49 CGI985 hi any one?? 17:44 CGI985 is any one there to suggest me? 17:36 CGI985 'make test' show some failed. is it error or not? http://pastebin.org/61840 17:35 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 8.9�C (9:32 AM PST on December 07, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Falling). High wind watch in effect from this evening through late tonight... 17:35 brendan @wunder 93117 17:32 * owen will take his answer off the air 17:26 owen I second the question. How concerned should one be about problems reported by 'make test' ? 17:19 CGI985 'make test' show some failed. is it error or not? http://pastebin.org/61840 17:11 owen Yup. Bug report averted. 17:11 owen Hmmm... probably messed up my branch tables 17:10 CGI985 brendan: here is still night 17:10 nengard owen - nope - I see my branch a-ok 17:09 * nengard done with podcast 17:01 owen Anyone else finding that they're not shown their logged-in branch in the staff client in the latest HEAD? 17:01 owen I'm not working on it at the moment. That was on my VM at home. 17:00 brendan hey owen - how's your install going? 17:00 owen Hi brendan 16:58 brendan morning all 16:14 owen Howdy works :) 16:10 hdl_laptop howdy ? 16:10 hdl_laptop hi owen 16:10 owen Hi hdl_laptop 16:09 hdl_laptop you are not 16:09 owen Someone please correct me if I'm wrong 16:09 * nengard on library 2.0 gang call 16:09 owen sudo apt-get install libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl 16:08 owen sudo cpan IPC::Cmd GD::Barcode::UPCE 16:07 owen IPC::Cmd doesn't have a package, so it must be installed via CPAN 16:07 owen Can anyone confirm? 16:07 owen It's recommended to use the Debian package wherever possible. That's why I asked about whether libgd-gd2-perl == "GD 2.39" 15:59 CGI985 Ropuch:http://pastebin.org/61798 15:58 Ropuch CGI985: remind me what madules you're missing 15:58 CGI985 owen: could u guide me plz, as Im confused yet... 15:56 CGI985 but how can I install ? 15:56 owen Sounds like that is recommended. 15:56 CGI985 so I have to 1st install dependencies 15:55 owen Yes 15:55 CGI985 owen: r u there? 15:50 nengard hmmm - we need to explain that further - and you're right they shouldn't be on by default 15:49 owen I don't. http://www.jasig.org/cas maybe? 15:48 nengard do you know what CAS is? 15:48 owen The CAS authentication stuff needs to be turned off, then logging in and out works. 15:48 nengard oh okay - was just gonna give you the link :) 15:47 owen Yeah, just modified it 15:47 nengard the log out thing 15:47 nengard owen - i reported a bug for that 15:44 owen That doesn't seem like something that should be filled by default 15:44 owen Oh, because there's a URL listed in the casServerUrl system pref 15:42 owen it's trying to redirect me to another port 15:42 owen Weird logout error in the latest OPAC 15:35 nengard :) 15:35 nengard owen - while you do that - want to find out what tags I use to get code to appear as code in docbook? I found a bunch of contradicting things and none seem to look right 15:25 * owen twiddles his thumbs and waits for his patrons to import 15:23 CGI985 owen: I was away from my pc, now Im reading 15:23 nengard owen you're right - I did it - it's all my fault - bug removed and off to fix documentation 15:22 Ropuch nengard: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/systempreferences.pl?tab=StaffClient 15:22 nengard oh - did I do that myself? off to check my preferences - hehe -silly me 15:22 owen Or is that something new in 3.2? 15:22 owen nengard: I mean is that a customization in the intranetuserjs system pref? 15:21 nengard can't find a thing 15:21 nengard guess i was wrong 15:21 nengard thought this would be an easy fix 15:21 nengard owen - one more :) where is intranetuserjs? 15:21 owen CGI985: Did you get your missing prerequisites installed? 15:21 owen I can remember that but I can't remember [x number of important things] 15:20 CGI985 owen: Im here 15:19 nengard thanks 15:19 nengard hehe 15:19 nengard ah 15:19 owen nengard: intranetuserjs? 15:19 nengard grr - okay where is the link to the self checkout page? it's on my login page - but not on auth.tmpl 15:18 owen So a download from LOC didn't work? 15:17 nengard no - but that's cause i couldn't find a file that worked - i think 15:17 owen nengard: I'm curious if you got your authorities import to work? 15:17 nengard thanks owen 15:17 owen nengard: modules/auth.tmpl 15:16 nengard can someone point me to the template file for the staff login page? 15:16 jdavidb well, that's an improvement, at least. 15:14 wizzyrea my hubs is still sick-ish, and we're all still coughing a bit, but no more fever 15:13 owen Does libgd-gd2-perl == "GD 2.39" as reported missing by Makefile.PL? 15:11 owen gmcharlt is looking out for us 15:10 owen Heh: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=539905 15:10 masonj i cant actually see it there.. :/ 15:10 masonj http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ipc&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all 15:09 jdavidb Hi, wizzyrea! Everyone get well over the weekend? 15:09 owen masonj: Shouldn't you be in bed? :) 15:08 owen masonj: For the debian package? Or does there not exist a debian package for it? 15:08 owen Hi wizzyrea 15:08 masonj owen: IPC::Cmd is the correct name 14:57 owen Ropuch: I mean if one were to do "apt-get install XX" I'm always confused about whether a package doesn't exist or whether I'm just not finding it on packages.debian.org 14:56 Ropuch owen: IPC::Open2, IPC::Open3, IPC::Cmd) which are in fact in standard Perl distribution so they can be used without worries. 14:55 owen CGI985: You still around? 14:53 owen Anyone know the correct package name for IPC::Cmd ? 14:51 magnusenger ...and if it isn't: fix the problems before proceeding 14:50 owen So, CGI985, I guess that's your answer 14:50 * jdavidb agrees with magnusenger. 14:50 magnusenger um, i would install the prerequisites, then run Makefile.PL again to see if it's satisfied 14:47 owen So if Makefile.PL returns warnings about missing prerequisites, one should continue with the Koha install, but install the missing prerequisites after? 14:38 Ropuch As long as my library is up and running I consider instal a full success ;> 14:37 owen But then again my install wasn't entirely successful :) 14:37 Ropuch Same here 14:37 owen Hm, could be. The warning I got was about an outdated version (.401) 14:36 Ropuch I have 0.41 14:36 Ropuch owen: i thinks IPC:Cmd is actually a must, but the version number don't need to match 14:36 owen install.pl line 15 "use IPC::Cmd;" 14:35 Ropuch grep IPC::Cmd returns only 4 file 14:35 owen Looks like it's used by the installer. You'd think that would be important 14:33 Ropuch IPC::Cmd - finding and running system commands made easy, sounds important ;> 14:32 owen I wonder what it's for? 14:31 Ropuch owen: my library is working on install without IPC::Cmd dependency fulfilled 14:21 owen I should say so masonj 14:20 masonj 3am here, i am done.. 14:19 CGI985 owen:ok.. 14:18 owen I'm interested in finding out the answer to your question too 14:18 owen CGI985: Sometimes you just have to be patient and wait for the next expert to become available 14:17 CGI985 masonj r u there? 14:17 CGI985 is any one there to guide me?/ 14:12 CGI985 warning are pasted on http://pastebin.org/61798 14:09 CGI985 ropuch ipc::Cmd and three others 14:09 owen Ropuch: Can move on? 14:09 Ropuch CGI985: be back in 30 minutes - but if you're missing IPC::Cmd you can move on 14:09 owen CGI985: I wonder if you got the same message: http://old.nabble.com/A-couple-of-Debian-install-questions-td26658585.html 14:08 CGI985 ropuch: r u with me... 14:07 Ropuch Hi owen 14:07 Ropuch What dependencies are you missing? 14:07 owen CGI985: I was trying an install on Debian over the weekend and ran into the same thing: warnings about prerequisites not installed 14:07 CGI985 may I move forward 14:07 CGI985 masonj 14:05 CGI985 it show some warning, may I carry on. 14:05 CGI985 perl Makefile.PL 14:04 masonj ahh, ok 14:00 CGI985 thz y I switched to debian. and I m new in linux 13:59 CGI985 masonj: I have succefully installed koha2.9 on windows but z39.50 was not working in windows 13:58 CGI985 ok 13:58 masonj type 'dev', then press the enter key 13:57 CGI985 and when I want to change it, it is not changing 13:57 CGI985 masonj:how can I select dev. it is bydefault standard 13:55 gmcharlt_ hitting the road; offline for a few hours 13:54 jwagner Good morning, owen 13:51 owen Hi #koha 13:48 CGI985 sure.. Im now more consious 13:47 masonj i suspect a typo with them 13:47 masonj double-check your directory paths 13:46 masonj you did a good job , so far ! 13:45 masonj yep, no problemo ;) 13:45 CGI985 thnx for encouraging. hope u will b around if any prob occur 13:45 masonj keep trying you are close.. :) 13:44 masonj http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage 13:44 CGI985 ok 13:44 masonj yep 13:44 masonj its what most developers use 13:44 CGI985 masonj: and should I overide on current one 13:44 masonj try a 'dev' install 13:43 masonj reinstall koha 13:43 CGI985 wht should I do reinstall 13:42 kf pootle is moody 13:42 masonj you cannot complete yr install until you fix this error 13:42 masonj try some fresh reinstalls 13:41 masonj you have a tricky typo somewhere 13:41 jwagner OK, thanks. 13:40 nengard jwagner - colin does - that's why i included you both in that bug report :) 13:40 masonj descibing your problem 13:40 jwagner I don't have a system updated to current head yet. 13:40 masonj send an email 'Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz' 13:40 jwagner nengard, sounds like something got reversed in the updated head -- gmcharlt, check? 13:39 nengard i'm going through and working on the documentation for 3.2 and as I do I find these little things 13:39 nengard jwagner it worked a-ok before that upgrade 13:39 CGI985 masonj: then wht steps? 13:39 masonj i cant explain how to do that simply, its complex ;) 13:39 nengard jwagner yup 13:38 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3868 major, P5, ---, colin.campbell@ptfs-europe.com, NEW, Patron Messages Appearing in Both Places 13:38 jwagner Your report on Bug 3868 -- is this with the newest head? 13:38 nengard jwagner yup 13:38 masonj re/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 666. 13:38 masonj Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/sha 13:38 masonj The following fatal error has occurred: 13:38 jwagner nengard, online? 13:37 CGI985 masonj: plz tell me simply 13:37 CGI985 I m not understanding ur this sentence "the next thing *i* would do i turn up the DBI logging , on line 665" 13:37 nengard hi all - anyone know what a CAS login is? I'm seeing this on my OPAC now... 13:35 CGI985 this is the note from documentation of install.debian-lenny 13:35 masonj the next thing *i* would do i turn up the DBI logging , on line 665 13:34 masonj pass ? 13:32 CGI985 plz read this not... whtz its meaning? http://pastebin.org/61782 13:31 CGI985 ok so should I go forward to complete installation 13:30 masonj ok, i have run out of ideas :/ 13:29 CGI985 mysql> 13:29 CGI985 mysql -u kohaadmin -p12 koha 13:29 CGI985 yes I get it 13:28 masonj sure.. 13:28 CGI985 so should i press ctrl-z 13:27 masonj its not supposed to complete 13:27 CGI985 ? 13:27 CGI985 mean> 13:27 CGI985 I dont know 13:27 masonj erm 13:27 CGI985 no it is in process since long 13:27 masonj ? 13:27 masonj it doesnt complete :/ 13:26 CGI985 tail -f /var/log/koha/koha-opac-error_log 13:26 CGI985 still i previous command have not completed, but still in process 13:25 masonj you get that? 13:25 masonj . 13:25 masonj mysql> 13:25 masonj Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer. 13:25 masonj Server version: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2 (Debian) 13:25 masonj Your MySQL connection id is 1774 13:25 masonj Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. 13:25 masonj this works for you? 13:25 masonj mysql -u kohaadmin -p12 koha 13:24 masonj so... 13:24 CGI985 I run tail command since long but still in process, so Im waiting for see its result 13:24 masonj <pass>12</pass> 13:24 masonj http://pastebin.org/61770 13:24 masonj yr conf does too.. 13:23 CGI985 but conf? 13:23 CGI985 db have 12 passwd 13:23 masonj me asks a silly question... 13:21 masonj in both yr conf file , and your db? 13:21 masonj err, is your password actually '12'? 13:20 masonj http://pastebin.org/61763 13:20 masonj ah , this error.. 13:19 masonj what error? 13:19 Ropuch ;> 13:19 Ropuch without leading $ 13:19 masonj $ tail -f /var/log/koha/koha-opac-error_log 13:19 CGI985 when I try to restart apache, it show the same error 13:19 masonj $ lynx 10.1.2.36:80 13:18 masonj restart apache and mysql ... 13:17 CGI985 ok 13:17 masonj theres a space there... 13:16 masonj '-f /' 13:16 CGI985 masonj: this command is not working 'tail -f/var/log/koha-opac-error_log' 13:12 CGI985 this command is not working ' tail: invalid option--/ 13:11 masonj ... to complete the install 13:10 masonj koha user needs access to your DB 13:10 masonj solve this problem 13:09 masonj look in your log file.... 13:09 CGI985 masonj: wht should I do now? should I run remaining commands of koha installation or first solve this problem 13:09 masonj tail -f /var/log/koha/koha-opac-error_log 13:08 masonj http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle) 13:08 masonj many people in your region understand LAMP :) 13:08 CGI985 mean? 13:08 masonj koha is just a LAMP app 13:06 CGI985 here in my region no one is using koha, so no one b available to see my work 13:06 masonj sort of 13:04 CGI985 masonj: r u there? 12:57 veryinky Blarg. Why do I keep forgetting to log off from computers. 12:54 masonj look at this file for other errors.. 12:53 masonj tail -f /var/log/koha/koha-opac-error_log 12:53 masonj look out for path errors 12:52 masonj ask a friend to look at your work 12:51 masonj restart apache and mysql ... 12:51 masonj everything looks pretty good 12:50 CGI985 so wht should I do now? 12:50 masonj your password is correct? 12:50 CGI985 masonj: plz dont mind, Im going and will be back in 10 mins] 12:50 masonj looks good 12:48 CGI985 http://pastebin.org/61770 12:47 masonj your user:password:db in there need to be the same 12:47 masonj now look in /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 12:46 masonj goood 12:46 CGI985 yeah Im now in mysql> 12:46 masonj works? 12:45 masonj $ mysql -u kohaadmin -pxxxxx koha 12:45 CGI985 flush privileges was also done successfully 12:45 masonj correct 12:45 CGI985 but there is no tables inside koha 12:45 masonj mysql> flush privileges; 12:44 masonj good! 12:44 CGI985 koha is there 12:44 CGI985 it is there? 12:44 CGI985 yeah 12:43 masonj | information_schema | 12:43 masonj +--------------------+ 12:43 masonj | Database | 12:43 masonj +--------------------+ 12:43 masonj mysql> show databases; 12:43 masonj Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec) 12:43 CGI985 where should I search koha db?? 12:43 masonj do you have a koha db? 12:43 masonj Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec) 12:43 masonj mysql> create database koha; 12:42 CGI985 yeah 12:42 masonj is your grant successfull? 12:42 CGI985 I have done it but it show same error 12:42 masonj choose a password that matches the password in "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" 12:41 CGI985 masonj: 12:40 masonj no < or > , ok? 12:40 masonj > grant all on 'koha'.* to 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' identified by 'xxxxx'; 12:38 CGI985 should I give any password or keep same as mysql or debian 12:38 CGI985 masonj: wht do u mean, im not understanding 12:36 masonj the '<' and '>' are incorrect, i think :/ 12:36 masonj '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>'; 12:36 masonj ahhhhh 12:36 * kf fighting with translation 12:35 kf table des matières? 12:35 masonj your **password** :) 12:35 CGI985 wht should place here 12:34 CGI985 wht should I do '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>' 12:34 masonj when that works , koha error with go... 12:34 masonj $ mysql -u kohaadmin -pPASSWORD kohadb 12:33 masonj do that? 12:33 masonj mysql> flush privileges; 12:33 masonj yep, then test access from the commandline ;) 12:32 CGI985 I replace koha instead of kohadatabasename and kohaadmin instead of kohadataseuser 12:31 masonj do it again... 12:31 CGI985 but I have followed this steps 12:30 masonj mysql> grant all on <kohadatabasename>.* to '<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>'; 12:30 masonj create a user , give the user access to that db.. 12:30 masonj you need to create a db, in mysql 12:29 masonj http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian-lenny;h=2d2997a7eacb6053980232a96cff5f04c190b52b;hb=HEAD#l121 12:29 CGI985 what? 12:28 masonj and you have a common problem 12:28 masonj that means your apache is working 12:28 masonj good 12:27 masonj that file.. 12:27 CGI985 this result occur http://pastebin.org/61763 12:27 masonj $ ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default 12:26 masonj i suspect your 000-default file is overridding it 12:26 CGI985 when I try lynx 10.1.2.36:80 12:26 masonj fyi: your apache's koha.conf file does look OK 12:24 masonj $ sudo apache2ctl -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS 12:24 masonj ahhhh, this is very handy for debugging your apache conf problem 12:22 CGI985 yes Im getting it 12:21 masonj yep, if you dont have the program , get it ;) 12:21 masonj $ sudo apt-get install lynx 12:21 CGI985 It show above 12:21 CGI985 command not found 12:20 masonj try that... 12:20 masonj $ lynx 10.1.2.36:80 12:18 CGI985 http://pastebin.org/61760 12:17 masonj pastebin the file, i look... 12:16 masonj ? 12:16 CGI985 is it same ?? 12:16 CGI985 "koha" 12:16 CGI985 already there is one file name "koha: 12:16 masonj you have any koha files in there ? 12:16 masonj $ ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled 12:15 masonj then restart apache 12:14 masonj you need to put a koha-httpd.conf file in /etc/apache/sites-enabled 12:14 CGI985 yeah 12:13 masonj your apache2 is running , and working 12:13 CGI985 so should I continue further process of koha 12:13 imp it's still just a warning... 12:13 masonj its a warning 12:13 masonj as someone said, its *not* an error 12:12 CGI985 http://pastebin.org/61757 12:11 masonj me also 12:11 CGI985 masong: Im not getting 12:11 masonj ok 12:11 CGI985 no 12:10 masonj or did you already? 12:10 masonj now, paste in that url into your chat window.... 12:10 masonj great..... 12:09 CGI985 masonj: I have posted 12:06 masonj use pastebin.org ;) 12:06 masonj well, wots yr error? 12:06 CGI985 so why not it is restarting 12:06 CGI985 masonj: it is working like http://pastebin.org/61755 12:03 masonj thats a non-working / stopped apache2 12:03 masonj http://pastebin.org/61756 12:01 masonj thats a working apache2 12:01 masonj http://pastebin.org/61755 12:00 imp wb kf 11:59 CGI985 and when I want to run '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' it show error 11:58 CGI985 masonj: I type this command but how can I understand that apache is working 11:55 kf back 11:38 masonj $ sudo apache2ctl fullstatus 11:38 masonj oooohhh.. 11:37 masonj sudo apache2ctl status 11:37 masonj or 11:36 masonj $ps -ef|grep apache 11:29 CGI985 as I type localhost it show it works 11:29 CGI985 ? 11:29 CGI985 how can I check that whether apache is running or not 11:29 greenmang0 on Debian Stable (Lenny) 11:29 greenmang0 any solution for this error.. i am trying to install Kete 11:28 greenmang0 http://paste.debian.net/53347/plain/53347 11:28 greenmang0 properly? 11:28 greenmang0 CGI985: it's just a warning... is apache running? 11:24 kf lunch :) 11:23 CGI985 as u post but still prob 11:22 CGI985 greenmang()all is same 11:14 CGI985 greenmang(): I have followed but still have same problem 11:12 kf Ropuch: I think its ok the way you have done it, depends on the case I think - Im still a beginner too 11:12 kf Ropuch: try to logout and login again, when pootle is happier, I think chris wanted to give you the rights 11:11 ropuch_ I have 2 bug fixed in one patch 11:11 ropuch_ kf: should i make one-patch for one bug? 11:11 ropuch_ Well 11:11 ropuch_ And I still don't have permission to change 3.2 trasnlations 11:08 kf hm. pootle is unhappy again 11:06 kf Ropuch: change priority to patch-sent and you are done 11:02 CGI985 ok u mean 53342/ and 53343 11:01 CGI985 greenmang():Im new one so Im not getting easily. how can I read ur links 11:00 greenmang0 CGI985: read those 2 links i gave you and do the changes on your system accordingly 10:59 CGI985 greenmang(): I have pasted on http://paste.debian.net/53343/ 10:59 CGI985 CGI985: http://paste.debian.net/53343/ 10:59 CGI985 CGI985: http://paste.debian.net/53343/ 10:58 greenmang0 CGI985: where did you paste? give me the link 10:58 greenmang0 CGI985: i have 0 (zero) in my nick and not parentheses 10:58 CGI985 error 10:57 greenmang0 CGI985: what did you paste? 10:56 ropuch_ kf: on my way [; 10:56 greenmang0 :D 10:56 greenmang0 #kete 10:56 greenmang0 masonj: i think i am an admin on kete... LOL... 10:56 kf ropuch: ah, change bug to patch-sent and attach your patch 10:55 ropuch_ kf: ok, thanks 10:55 ropuch_ greenmang0: I suppose so, but I have no experience with kete 10:55 CGI985 greenmang(): i have pasted 10:55 masonj try #kete channel too... 10:54 greenmang0 ropuch_: can i get any help regarding "kete" installation here? 10:54 kf ropuch: wait until its approved, test and close 10:54 masonj wait for patch approval, i think 10:53 greenmang0 notice commented NameVirtualHost * entry 10:53 greenmang0 CGI985: http://paste.debian.net/53343/ 10:53 masonj they aren't fatal to apache 10:52 ropuch_ I've reported bug, submitted patch, what now - shuold i change bug status to fixed or wait fur patch to be approved? 10:52 masonj i get those apache warnings on my boxes too. 10:51 greenmang0 your ports.conf should look like this 10:51 greenmang0 CGI985: http://paste.debian.net/53342/ 10:49 ropuch_ Yup 10:46 CGI985 is any one there? 10:46 CGI985 I need help about it?? 10:42 CGI985 greenmang(): Im installing koha3.00.04_fixed on debian-lenny 10:41 greenmang0 CGI985: are you running Debian? 10:39 imp CGI985: you are restarting an apache, without knowing the website it should be serving? (guess it's a koha running there?) 10:36 CGI985 imp: how? 10:36 imp CGI985: just take a look at your apache with a browser 10:34 CGI985 imp: I dont know 10:31 imp CGI985: looks like a warning to me, not an error. are you sure that it doesn't work? 10:30 CGI985 is any one there to help me?? 10:29 CGI985 Reloading web server config: apache2[Sat Dec 05 19:23:08 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts 10:28 CGI985 when Im running 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload' it show following error 10:03 kf chris: works 09:55 chris try now 09:53 chris pootle doesnt do threading well 09:51 kf chris: ah, ill try again a bit later 09:50 chris yeah someone just tried to merge in a big file, it'll come right 09:46 kf chris: pootle gives me an proxy error 09:45 kf chris: still around? 09:45 kf hdl_laptop: thx, not sure I did it right, but its translated now 09:42 CGI985 hi ropuch 09:35 hdl_laptop principal author 09:32 kf Auteur principal 09:32 kf hm there are some french string from unimarc xslt to translate 09:30 masonj portable phones and such, i guess 09:30 masonj some are from me futzing, but some are from something enviromentel , i guess :/ 09:29 Genji Regular interference. 09:29 masonj genji: yes, there *are* interesting 'dips' in my wifi history graph 09:27 SelfishMan Technically yes but I think we all know how that *really* works 09:27 Genji For all we know, however, LL could just be One guy, at home. 09:26 Genji Which LL could easily change. 09:26 SelfishMan We have http access only because it is (currently) a public website 09:26 masonj click... 09:26 SelfishMan we don't have rsync access so it doesn't matter 09:25 Genji LL gives neither. 09:25 kf Gratulation Ropuch! :) 09:25 masonj rsync would be the obv tool 09:25 Genji rsync would require ssh or ftp, right? 09:25 masonj i suspect not 09:25 Genji Hmm.. 'no vendor lock-in' 09:24 masonj hmm, does that break rsync ? 09:24 ropuch_ patch sent 09:24 ropuch_ whoa 09:24 SelfishMan I find it interesting that they have explicitly disabled it 09:24 Genji Ah. 09:24 SelfishMan Their server doesn't support timestamping so there is no way to effectively check for changes 09:23 SelfishMan I'm not going to update it 09:23 * Genji nods. "So, now you've got it, how do you update it?" 09:23 SelfishMan The method I used was aggressive and not very well designed but it worked 09:23 SelfishMan sure 09:22 Genji Is it actually possible? 09:22 Genji Hmm... paranoid Chris ( :) ) said he wanted it backed up nightly.... how does one detect changes on 7GB, and only download the updates? 09:21 SelfishMan howdy 09:21 Genji Hi SelfishMan! 09:20 SelfishMan Yeah, I may have been the reason they are being defensive 09:20 Genji seem to be consistant. 09:20 Genji Hmm.. your graph has strange drops. 09:19 Genji Ah. Ive successfully done wok to wok, 130 metres... wok to university calebre wifi, 1.. 2 km. 09:18 masonj ive recently started graphing its singnal strenght with munin 09:17 masonj just from next door 09:17 masonj now its fast again... :) 09:17 Genji Wok-fi yeah! How far, masonj? 09:17 masonj prolly just my wok-fi network home connection tho :0) 09:16 Genji SelfishMan has successfuly got down the entire wiki. 7GB compressed into 250MB. 09:16 ropuch_ koha-patches@lists.koha.org ? 09:16 ropuch_ Where should i sent the patch 09:15 Genji Obviously, they've gotten defensive. 09:15 paul_p masonj: & chris: koha.org works fine from Europe it seems 09:15 kf wiki, bugzilla and koha.org ok from here 09:14 masonj heh, i keep timing out from home to koha.org :/ 09:12 Genji Ah.. maybe they have you throttled. 09:11 chris ahh there it is .. just super duper slow 09:11 chris i wonder if they have blocked my ip now too 09:11 Genji Got wiki still. 09:11 imp masonj: read the backlog? :D 09:11 chris no joy with the wiki 09:11 chris ahh bugzilla is ok 09:11 chris can anyone get to the wiki, or bugs.koha.org ? 09:10 masonj zzanGGGG!!! 09:10 Genji Have. no response yet. 09:10 imp maybe it's because the creator of zebra got hit with a fish today ;) 09:10 chris you probably should ask on the zebra list 09:09 Genji Zebra voodoo is so fustrating. putting -s to analyse zebraidx'ing, says that pubdate is being indexed with y and n .... maybe Zebra 2.0.35 doesn't support relationals? 09:08 kf chris: thx :) 09:08 chris i hope to get 100 by xmas :) 09:08 chris ropuch_: you will be the 99th committer 09:08 chris kf: yep, fixed it, not sure whats up with the search 09:07 chris ropuch_: done 09:06 kf chris: did you fix the po-files? German seems to have the right size now :) but search is still broken 09:06 ropuch_ I have 3.2 opac already translated 09:06 ropuch_ Thanks 09:06 chris will do ropuch_ 09:06 ropuch_ chris: can you give me admin rights for 3.2 polish translations? I can only change 3.0 ones 09:06 chris Genji: yep, its not up to me tho 09:05 chris ropuch_: lucky 99 09:05 Genji hey chris. Did you see Richard saying katipo would be pleased to host? 09:05 ropuch_ ;-) 09:05 kf I ll copy and submit :) I need 100% to be happy :) 09:05 chris ropuch_: excellent, then i can add you to the history doc :) 09:04 chris just ignore any ones like that, either just copy and submit, or just ignore them 09:04 ropuch_ chris: I've just fixed sysprefs & sample_itemtypes, trying to send my very first patch now ;> 09:04 kf installation = translation, im not really awake yet 09:03 chris yep, the xslt files dont play nice with translation 09:03 kf chris: started workino n 3.2 installation, there are many strings like /cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=au: from xslt-files 09:03 kf hi chris 09:03 chris yeah almost all the sample data needs updating for 3.2 09:02 ropuch_ paul_p: thanks, it still exists in sample_budgets.sql 09:02 paul_p hello everybody 09:01 kf hi paul_p 09:01 paul_p kf: true 09:01 kf i think acq table structure changed a lot 09:01 paul_p ropuch_: aqbookfunds has been removed (aqbudgets used instead) 09:01 ropuch_ And there's a aqbookfunds table 09:00 ropuch_ Well, I'll fix sample_itemtypes then 09:00 kf I dont have a test installation yet, but I think I saw some patches 08:59 kf hi ropuch 08:59 ropuch_ Hi kf [; 08:59 kf I think renewals were moved to circ rules 08:59 ropuch_ sample_itemptypes.sql is trying to insert 7 values 08:58 ropuch_ Is itemtypes table in 3.2 supposed to have 7 rows or just six (itemptype, desctiption, rentalcharge, notforloan, imageurl, summary)? 08:10 imp heyho 07:58 kf good morning #koha 07:14 SelfishMan morning 07:04 Ropuch Morning #koha 06:41 pianohacker Good night 06:34 pianohacker see ya, good luck 06:34 anotheruser thanks for all of your help, I'm off to bed 06:34 anotheruser I'll do that tomorrow 06:34 anotheruser ok, sounds like a plan 06:33 pianohacker Excising the frameworks, then loading the marc21 ones, will be easier 06:32 anotheruser is there a way to backup all of my settings, re-install, and then copy them back? 06:31 pianohacker You can remove all of the frameworks (might take some manual SQL work), then reload them from the sql source files in the tarball 06:31 anotheruser not yet 06:31 pianohacker anotheruser: You have no records? 06:30 anotheruser thanks for all of your help thus far, you're saving my life here. We've got it to the point where book cataloging is possible 06:30 anotheruser well maybe I should be using another tag? 06:30 anotheruser hmm... 06:29 pianohacker Well, then, the less easy option 06:29 anotheruser I've already spent way too much time to do that 06:29 pianohacker MARC21 is more common in the US 06:28 pianohacker Not really, easier to wipe the db and reinstall 06:28 anotheruser can I change it to marc21 easily 06:28 pianohacker Ohhhhh 06:28 anotheruser but I have no records at this point 06:28 anotheruser *marc 06:28 anotheruser pianohacker: Unimark 06:27 pianohacker (It's beginning to sound like the latter) 06:27 pianohacker anotheruser: Was it set up for MARC21 or UNIMARC? 06:21 anotheruser 3.0.4 06:21 anotheruser the most recent one 06:20 pianohacker anotheruser: What version of Koha are you running? 06:19 munin pianohacker: unknown tag 606 06:19 pianohacker @marc 606 06:12 anotheruser * tag 610 subfield a Subject Term in tab 6 06:12 anotheruser * tag 606 subfield a Entry Element in tab 6 06:12 anotheruser Can't save this record because the following field aren't filled : 06:12 anotheruser it tells me that they're mandatory 06:08 pianohacker Those are indicators, you probably don't have to worry about them 05:59 anotheruser I can put in the data fine, but it has two text boxes for 101[][] and 102[][], does it matter what I put in those/what are they for? 05:58 anotheruser I put tags 101/102 in the first panel (0) so I could put them in quickly 05:58 anotheruser ok, so one more and I think I'll have my first manually created zine marc record 05:58 anotheruser thanks for helping me out with this, I feel like such a noob on this system 05:56 anotheruser oh, you mean clicking on the "..." to the right 05:54 pianohacker Hmm 05:54 anotheruser *me the 05:54 anotheruser pianohacker: you mean just clicking in the text area? It still gives me in the same error 05:52 pianohacker You can make the @ subfield of 001 not mandatory; 000 can be field by just clicking in the text input for it 05:48 anotheruser what should i put in them? 05:48 anotheruser *empty 05:48 anotheruser when I put things in via the add marc record form, it won't let me save them because 000 and 001 are emptu 05:47 pianohacker The 001 can be made not mandatory, it's a control number (definitely in the "if you don't know what it is, learning is not going to be worth it") 05:46 pianohacker The 000 tag is a leader; you want to leave that mandatory, it's automatically set 05:44 anotheruser What are the 000 and 001 tags and can I make them non-mandatory (I assume they're there for a reason)? 05:43 pianohacker k 05:28 anotheruser I think what I'll do is force all the tags I need to show up in the first pane and remove the ones I don't there 05:28 anotheruser pianohacker: thanks 05:22 pianohacker Just get an idea of what metadata you need, find marc tags for them, and don't hide those fields 05:22 pianohacker Except for the URL 05:22 pianohacker anotheruser: Yup 04:43 anotheruser shit 04:41 IrmaCalyx would like to stay but I am running late for a meeting ...cheers for now. 04:39 anotheruser I mean, not hide the same ones? 04:39 anotheruser should I save the same tags in this case? 04:39 anotheruser no, they're zines ie a diy distribution method used by lots of political types 04:37 pianohacker right 04:37 IrmaCalyx anotheruser & pianohacker: ah..I thought zine = Electronically distributed newsletter or magazine 04:35 anotheruser and don't go too quick, I'd like to join in ; ) 04:35 anotheruser gotcha, thanks for the clarification 04:34 * pianohacker is about to hunt down the original person who thought eBook DRM was a fantastic idea and slowly kill them with an icepick 04:33 pianohacker anotheruser: I think that's only if it's an e-zine, and it had some URL it could be accessed at 04:33 anotheruser that sentence went a little over my head 04:32 anotheruser IrmaCalyx: Huh? 04:31 IrmaCalyx anotheruser: and include the URL...use 856 $u (in MARC21) OK? 04:29 anotheruser IrmaCalyx: thanks! 04:27 IrmaCalyx anotheruser: in MARC21: The title field is always 245 $a - If the zine is part of a series...and the title of eachzine in that series is different, you create a new bib record for each one and in field 500 (Notes) mention the name of the series it belongs to to link them all. That's keeing it very simple but also indexes the series name to be searched on. 04:24 anotheruser I know there's a whole science to cataloging but this is a small library with no intentions on becoming huge, so I'm just looking for what works 04:20 anotheruser I mean, I don't really care which is the "correct" one, I just want to make sure that whatever title tag I choose will show up using the built-in search engine 04:19 * wizzyrea is not a cataloger 04:19 wizzyrea ooh, that is a question for a cataloger :P 04:18 anotheruser Collective Uniform Title? Uniform title? Palellel Titel Proper? Cover Title? etc. 04:18 anotheruser so for something like the title of a zine, which title tag should I keep? 04:17 pianohacker especially the godforsaken hidden field 04:17 anotheruser yeah 04:16 pianohacker np 04:16 pianohacker messing with your marc frameworks through sql is touchy 04:16 anotheruser thanks! 04:16 pianohacker please back up that table before running that 04:16 pianohacker UPDATE marc_subfield_structure SET hidden = -6 WHERE frameworkcode='<the frameworkcode of the zine framework>' AND tagfield='<the number of the tag you want to hide>' AND hidden = 0; 04:14 pianohacker It'll look something like this for each tag that you want to hide: 04:14 pianohacker Okay. You need to set the hidden column in marc_subfield_structure to -6 (visible on OPAC and Intranet, but not the Editor) 04:13 anotheruser I can run an SQL command if that's easier 04:12 pianohacker There's a quick way to do it, but it requires that you're comfortable with SQL 04:12 pianohacker anotheruser: Unfortunately, you have to do it by editing the subfields 04:11 anotheruser pianohacker: in the tag edit menu I don't see a hide option, am I looking in the wrong spot? 03:53 anotheruser thanks! 03:52 pianohacker I think so and yes, they will 03:52 anotheruser pianohacker: Can I just clone the default framework and then rename it to zines or something like that and hide the tags there? Also, will the zines show up in search results? 03:51 anotheruser That sounds like a good idea but they're also cataloguing books 03:48 pianohacker anotheruser: You could simply hide those tags in the default framework 03:47 anotheruser I'm helping a group use Koha to catalog their zine collection which doesn't require as much bibliographic information as the default setup (think it's called a MARC framework). I tried making my own framework with its own options (one for title with a title subtag, author with author subtag, etc.). Koha says the tags are invalid. Is there a simpler way to do this? 03:46 anotheruser I've got a quick question for a more experienced koha user 03:39 brendan Heya Amit 03:33 Jo and retrieved in an instant for auditors rather than trawling through boxes for the paper copy 03:33 Jo just thinking to myself it would be cool in acquisitions, if we could scan in the actual invoice when we are receiving a bunch of books, and could be linked to. 03:31 Amit heya Jo 03:31 Jo hiya Amit 03:30 Amit good morning #koha 03:30 Amit heya brendan, chris, chris_n2 03:15 Jo :) 03:04 chris oh wait, he already did 03:03 chris he woulda called you a terrorist 03:03 Jo was probably Mr Abrahms himself! 03:03 chris funny 03:03 chris heh 03:03 Jo sirsi 03:03 chris was it from a proprietary vendor? 03:03 Jo still have no email ... i feel like a social outcast 03:03 chris :-) 03:02 Jo quite cool though to have the figure confirmed independently :) 02:59 pie heh 02:59 chris we were about 49cents 02:59 chris yeah it was back then 02:58 Jo had a nice email challenging my figures for a proprietary system back in 1999: challenged my $NZD225k figure .... his only cost $USD100k ... I expleined to him its about the same :) 02:56 Jo and I really should learn to either spell or type better 02:56 Jo hes got fish scales stuuck tohis forhead now :) 02:45 chris heh 02:43 chris_n2 well, things were getting awful quiet before the CGI nut wandered in... :-) 02:30 imp with some serious problems 02:30 imp or a broken eliza version ;) 02:29 chris old 02:28 chris or a 12 year 02:28 wizzyrea I suspect a drunken vacationer. 02:25 * richard scrolls back and sees that there ahas been a real pest about 02:21 * wizzyrea remembers why Jo is the coolest librarian ever 02:21 wizzyrea the creator of the zebra from a prestigious university gets slapped around by jo. I always miss the fun stuff 02:20 wizzyrea ooh, looks like that was some excitement ^.^ 01:57 chris_n2 heh 01:57 imp nearly 3am and there are still ideas popping up in my mind how to improve the prototype which has to be finished today... 01:57 * chris_n2 roasts fresh pecans 01:47 pie indeed 01:47 imp (then it doesn't make any sense to ban the ip ... :/) 01:47 richard he's loggin in from that one 01:46 pie yeah, looks like it 01:46 imp uhm, is it that one? -> http://koha.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi 01:45 * pie wonders why we have that CGI interface 01:45 pie Jo: yeah, unfortunately 01:45 Jo would be chasing a slippery pig to eep up :) 01:45 imp a server admin would be great right now 01:45 Jo mind you, it looks like he just logs back in again with a dofferent number-name 01:44 Jo ok 01:44 Jo or is it someone at Katipo 01:44 chris_n2 Jo: I think si does that 01:44 Jo Chris: have you got ops authority on this channel? 01:43 CGI500 qwertyuiopasdfghjkl;zxvbnm 01:42 CGI500 (. )( .) 01:42 * pie gets no noise now :) 01:42 Jo thats pie 01:42 pie :) 01:42 pie then once someone with ops comes in, they can kick or whatever 01:42 owen Good one pie :) 01:42 CGI742 908e4806 01:42 CGI742 e3gbt 01:42 CGI742 setiy9 01:42 CGI742 bt 01:42 CGI742 thu4e 01:42 CGI742 tye5ui 01:42 pie everyone, just type '/ignore CGI742' and your client will stop showing you those messages 01:42 CGI742 thyr5uo 01:42 CGI742 gh8orke8o 01:42 CGI742 yuidrh 01:42 CGI742 hgodr 01:42 CGI742 ogdruk 01:42 CGI742 bdr 01:42 CGI742 efiojrd 01:42 CGI742 deruio j 01:42 CGI742 ut6um 01:42 CGI742 f5t8 01:42 CGI742 r6/*87u 01:42 CGI742 68.9 01:42 CGI742 -r6it70/-. 01:42 CGI742 ivgjk+ 01:42 CGI742 vgjk+ 01:42 CGI742 chj 01:42 CGI742 +g 01:42 CGI742 g htdb 01:41 CGI742 5 4 01:41 CGI742 c 01:41 CGI742 d 01:41 CGI742 uy 01:41 CGI742 r6 01:41 CGI742 f 01:41 imp CGI742: do us a favour and prove that you are from the "best uni from the world" and join from their subnet, please :) 01:41 CGI742 yimg 01:41 CGI742 fhcd 01:41 CGI742 yg 01:41 CGI742 c yu 01:41 CGI742 hjyb 01:41 CGI742 g 01:41 CGI742 fhycfry 01:41 CGI742 tu 01:41 CGI742 vt 01:41 CGI742 ht 01:41 CGI742 gbyu 01:41 CGI742 80t6 01:41 CGI742 jgvyuvuiy 01:41 CGI742 gtjvuih 01:41 CGI742 gnjbvuinj 01:41 CGI742 h 01:41 CGI742 dfhhhfc 01:41 CGI742 dfhh 01:41 CGI742 dfhjdf 01:41 CGI742 hdfh 01:41 CGI742 hdf 01:41 CGI742 dfhj 01:41 Jo the channel operator can 01:41 CGI742 hgf 01:41 CGI742 fh 01:41 CGI742 h 01:41 CGI742 gdggfhdf 01:41 Jo we can ban him 01:41 CGI742 gdggf 01:41 CGI742 gd 01:41 CGI742 f 01:41 CGI742 gdggfh 01:41 CGI742 gdggfh 01:41 CGI742 asdgdf 01:41 CGI742 asdg 01:41 CGI742 kdf 01:41 CGI742 dj 01:41 CGI742 djghg 01:41 CGI742 dj 01:41 CGI742 djghk 01:41 CGI742 djgh 01:41 CGI742 dj 01:41 CGI742 dg 01:41 CGI742 hdf 01:41 CGI742 gsd 01:41 CGI742 shgas 01:41 CGI742 ghk 01:41 CGI742 ghk 01:41 CGI742 j 01:41 CGI742 fyhmsd 01:41 CGI742 sd 01:41 CGI742 g 01:41 CGI742 shf 01:41 CGI742 ja 01:41 CGI742 gsd 01:41 CGI742 gsd 01:40 CGI742 das 01:40 CGI742 gsdg 01:40 CGI742 gsd 01:40 CGI742 sdgsd 01:40 CGI742 sdg 01:40 CGI742 gsd 01:40 CGI742 gsd 01:40 CGI742 gsdg 01:40 CGI742 gsd 01:40 CGI742 gsd 01:40 owen Yeah, chris_n2 I've heard lots of bug reports about the lack of horizontal strips 01:40 CGI742 gsd 01:40 CGI742 g 01:40 CGI742 sdg 01:40 CGI742 sd 01:40 CGI742 sdg 01:40 CGI742 gasd 01:40 CGI742 asdfgfsdaf 01:40 CGI742 use my zebra program and i will hunt you down 01:40 * chris_n2 really has to go now ;-) 01:40 chris_n2 then play tic-tac-toe on him 01:40 CGI742 hahahha you are very damn funny 01:40 chris_n2 maybe we could paint perpendicular strips on the zebra 01:40 Jo you are a social outcast 01:39 owen Who would have thought to add the stripes. 01:39 CGI742 learn how to spell 01:39 owen We should be nicer to the inventor of the zebra. 01:39 CGI742 if you want to know i go to the most prestiges uni in the world im a computer operator 01:39 * chris_n2 has a good laugh 01:39 Jo can I punch him in the haed instead :) 01:39 * owen hand Jo a bigger trout 01:39 owen Jo, I don't think that trout was big enough 01:39 CGI742 you stupid nerdy retards 01:38 * Jo slaps CGI742 around a bit with a large trout 01:38 CGI742 chris who do u think u are 01:38 Jo I don't think its a human :) 01:38 CGI742 noway dont block the zebra creator 01:38 chris_n2 no ops on channel :-( 01:38 imp guess it's a bot controll thing 01:38 CGI742 i made it 01:38 Jo can we block CGI742 01:38 owen When did this place become somewhere to pop in randomly? 01:38 CGI742 i really love zebra 01:37 CGI742 jyhvfir 01:37 CGI742 vfror 01:37 owen No doubt, imp 01:37 CGI742 hkvbuoer 01:37 CGI742 hvefueklw 01:37 CGI742 ghuisvgjor 01:37 imp kick! 01:37 CGI742 gvc89rkbp 01:37 CGI742 ucvhroeb 01:37 CGI742 ufv9rejiov 01:37 CGI742 ghvcukde 01:37 CGI742 ywoergjk 01:37 CGI742 hgiodfvj;o 01:37 CGI742 bhdvirdov 01:37 CGI742 yucgudh 01:37 CGI742 bhcisdjvo 01:37 CGI742 fhcgsuihc 01:37 CGI742 fjhfjfjhfjhf 01:37 CGI742 mytjudfjdtjudt 01:37 imp gn8 chris_n2 01:37 chris_n2 g'night koha 01:37 chris_n2 bye brendan 01:37 owen Thanks brendan 01:37 imp bye brendan 01:37 brendan alright gotta run -- cya all later 01:36 brendan sometimes - they just don't go through -- so it's good that during the Makefile.PL step it notes the missing packages 01:36 owen CGI742: You'll have to quiz each of us extensively to find that out 01:36 CGI742 areyou? 01:36 CGI742 are you 01:35 CGI742 no 01:35 owen I had trouble with zebra my first time around, so I'm starting from scratch and trying to carefully keep track of my steps 01:35 brendan rereading one of your emails -- where you noted a bunch of packages that did not install 01:35 imp CGI742: are you a bot? 01:35 owen Okay, that's what I wondered 01:35 brendan so I don't think you need to worry about it -- it's taking care of as part of that step 01:34 brendan ahhh.. yaz and zebra should be in the dselect part 01:34 owen For instance, the Debian guide describes how to set up Index Data sources in sources.list, but doesn't tell you to install yaz, idzebra-2.0, etc. 01:34 CGI742 yes i love library software 01:33 brendan s/writing/written 01:33 brendan hmm... maybe it's one of those - writing by a developer kind of things 01:33 owen I'm curious why the Debian install guide leaves out steps listed in the Ubuntu install guide. 01:33 brendan cool beans 01:33 owen Hey brendan, I'm just doing what most guys do on a Saturday night: trying to install Koha on Debian 01:32 owen CGI742: Do you have an interest in open source library software? 01:32 brendan hey owen - here for a sec if you need something 01:32 CGI742 hello 01:30 CGI742 hi owen 01:29 CGI742 whats your name 01:28 owen Hi miles 01:28 CGI742 hello my name is miles 01:25 owen Anyone around for an install question? 01:17 CGI512 hello 01:14 CGI806 hi 01:14 CGI806 hi 01:13 CGI806 hello my name is ygtrhsd