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23:59 munin Genji: No matching quotes were found.
23:59 Genji @quote search rach
23:59 munin Genji: There were no matching configuration variables.
23:59 Genji @search rach
23:59 Genji Oh, a joke.
23:59 Genji ...
23:58 munin Genji: Quote #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo decided to write an ils just for fun, then forced HLT to use it" (added by gmcharlt at 02:23 PM, September 16, 2009)
23:58 Genji @quote get 34
23:58 munin pianohackr|work: Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010 (Subject: "Organization", added by 15 on 06:54 PM, December 04, 2009)
23:58 pianohackr|work @news 4
23:58 munin Genji: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 08:11 AM, July 27, 2009)
23:58 Genji @quote get 19
23:58 munin pianohackr|work: News for #koha: (#4) Organization
23:58 pianohackr|work @news
23:58 munin Genji: 4 found: #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't...", #26: "<chris> as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt", #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo...", and #39: "chris <chris> nope, ive made it my aim in life..."
23:58 Genji @quote search chris
23:58 munin Genji: No matching quotes were found.
23:58 Genji @quote search Genji
23:57 munin Genji: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
23:57 Genji @list quote
23:57 munin chris_n2: The operation succeeded.
23:57 chris_n2 @news remove 1
23:57 munin Genji: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "Genji" in it. Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin.
23:57 Genji @quote Genji
23:57 munin Genji: Error: "quote" is not a valid command.
23:57 Genji @quote
23:56 chris_n2 syntax++
23:56 munin chris_n2: The operation succeeded. (News item #4 added)
23:56 chris_n2 @news add 0 Organization: Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010
23:56 munin chris_n2: (news add [<channel>] <expires> <subject>: <text>) -- Adds a given news item of <text> to a channel with the given <subject>. If <expires> isn't 0, that news item will expire <expires> seconds from now. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
23:56 chris_n2 @news add 0 Organization Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010
23:55 munin chris_n2: (news add [<channel>] <expires> <subject>: <text>) -- Adds a given news item of <text> to a channel with the given <subject>. If <expires> isn't 0, that news item will expire <expires> seconds from now. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
23:55 chris_n2 @news add 0 Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010
23:54 munin chris_n2: Error: 'Next' is not a valid number of seconds.
23:54 chris_n2 @news add Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010
23:52 munin chris_n2: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:52 chris_n2 @news add Next general IRC meeting at 19:00 UTC+0 on 13 January 2010
23:51 munin chris_n2: News for #koha: (#1) Organizing
23:51 chris_n2 @news
23:49 brendan cya in a bit
23:44 brendan heh
23:44 pianohackr|work I am reliably weird, if nothing else
23:43 brendan nice one pianohackr|work
23:43 munin brendan: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 04:23 PM, June 19, 2009)
23:43 brendan @quote random
23:43 munin pianohackr|work: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 07:31 PM, September 02, 2009)
23:43 pianohackr|work @quote random
23:43 munin brendan: Quote #37: "< nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough..." (added by chris at 07:27 PM, October 04, 2009)
23:43 brendan @quote random
23:34 chris_n2 g'night Ropuch
23:27 Ropuch Good night all
23:22 pianohackr|work Genji: I don't think there's much beyond what's in the file
23:01 chris_n2 I'm also trying out the win32 port of git
23:01 Genji anyone know zebra marc_def/record.abs syntax?
23:00 chris_n2 right now the changes are just hacked into the uncompressed tarball
22:59 chris_n2 as soon as I get the changes into my local repo, I'll push them out to a win32 branch in my public repo
22:59 chris_n2 starting out with that now
22:59 brendan are you running that with git?
22:59 chris_n2 hopefully to write a how-to
22:59 brendan cool good luck
22:58 * chris_n2 begins to try to duplicate his win32 install of Koha
22:58 munin brendan: Karma for "chris_n2" has been increased 9 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 9.
22:58 brendan @karma chris_n2
22:58 brendan :)
22:58 brendan chris_n2++ #also for good measure
22:57 chris_n2 brendan++ # for good measure :-)
22:55 munin brendan: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 10 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 10.
22:55 brendan @karma brendan
22:55 munin brendan: Highest karma: "chris" (84), "gmcharlt" (67), and "owen" (64). Lowest karma: "<!" (-26), "failed" (-20), and "-" (-11). You (brendan) are ranked 18 out of 598.
22:55 brendan @karma
22:47 ILHOMJAN_2 privet
22:46 ILHOMJAN_2 salom
22:28 schuster try and stay warm everyone!
22:07 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 11.3�C (5:02 PM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady).
22:07 chris_n2 @wunder 28334
21:42 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.2�C (1:39 PM PST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling).
21:42 brendan @wunder 93117
21:20 owen Have a good weekend everyone!
21:13 chris_n bbl
21:10 schuster So yes - it was sponsored through our local OCLC channel.
21:10 schuster IEACT ? certified course
21:10 schuster my tinkering with webpages has come to a point in which I needed to actually take some classes.
21:09 owen Is it one of those national tech-training companies?
21:09 owen Sounds like fun!
21:08 schuster owen - watch out - I've finished day 2 of a 4 day javascript class... There may be LOTS of questions coming your way - we talk about ajax next week.
21:08 schuster Ah yes we continue to have that as well.
21:08 owen yeah, she's fine except for the sneezing boogers on us periodically
21:07 schuster owen hope the child is better.
21:04 chris_n jwagner: back now
21:03 owen I was voted most likely to leave in 15 minutes by the people who saw when I came to work this morning.
21:00 veryinky I was voted most likely to :| on #bay12games
20:58 veryinky Always am.
20:58 owen veryinky: You seem very neutral.
20:58 Nate have a great weekend everyone!
20:55 veryinky :|
20:40 Ropuch No, just a happy one :)
20:37 SelfishMan does that make me a bad person?
20:37 SelfishMan I must admit, I'm getting some pleasure out of burning 6GB of LL's bandwidth in the last 24 hours
20:34 owen Saturday for him Genji, although you can sometimes catch him
20:30 Genji hiya chris, you up?
20:20 veryinky_ pianohackr|work: Seems to have worked, was about to create a koh:koh account out of frustration.
20:07 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3864 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Cannot place holds in staff client
20:06 brendan bug 3864
19:54 veryinky_ :|
19:49 * wizzyrea claps excitedly
19:49 wizzyrea sweet!
19:49 wizzyrea sorry, had a lunch break >.<
19:49 owen I'm in business!
19:49 owen Yup, got it.
19:49 wizzyrea owen: I don't believe ssh is installed by default on ubuntu
19:29 Ropuch See you
19:29 pianohacker Time to head off to work, be back in half an hour or so
19:28 pianohacker Ropuch: But I believe the available items limit is working; you might want to check your zebra MARC configuration (good old record.abs)
19:28 Ropuch Neither do I
19:27 pianohacker Hmm, can't connect to my library at the moment. Good thing I'm going into work soon
19:26 pianohacker I have some custom modifications, and I haven't had the energy to deal with merging them in for a couple of months
19:25 Ropuch "Outdated 3.2"? ;>
19:25 Ropuch I've imported my 3.0.4 dump into 3.2 and I'm not sure if it's a bug or my problem only
19:25 pianohacker Ropuch: My library at http://jcfld.us.to/ is running a (slightly out-of-date) 3.2
19:24 Ropuch pianohacker: do you have 3.2 installed? When I'm trying to limit search to available items, the result is "no match"
19:22 Ropuch (although bugzilla is creeping me out)
19:22 Ropuch It's easier to translate and spot bugs when actually working with software
19:21 Ropuch I will do some testing on funcionality I need and maybe I'll put my library on it
19:20 pianohacker That it is :)
19:20 Ropuch And 3.2 is great ;)
19:19 Ropuch Despite previous declaration from others I'm doing this on my own
19:19 Ropuch Yup
19:19 pianohacker in terms of translation?
19:19 Ropuch I'm seriously thinking about switching focus entirely to 3.2 version
19:18 Ropuch [;
19:18 SelfishMan Ropuch: That's where the nick came from
19:17 Ropuch Kinda funny nick you have for a person willing to share his resources ;>
19:09 SelfishMan IO is insane though
19:09 SelfishMan just a matter of taking a bunch of raw data and making it into something useful
19:08 SelfishMan nah, handful of systems doing the crunching but most of it isn't really cpu intensive
19:08 Genji you got a Supercomputer strength cluster working at stuff?
19:07 SelfishMan just purged a bunch of data from the last contract
19:07 Genji Oh... not much bigger in comparision.
19:07 SelfishMan Genji: about 600TB
19:07 * Genji braces himself for a reallly big number.
19:06 Genji Right. You mentioned you have 400TB free... how much you have in total?
19:05 SelfishMan uh...infrastructure
19:05 SelfishMan custom hardware, software and/or infrastrure design mostly
19:04 SelfishMan Genji: I own the business and we take on all sorts of computer related contracts
19:04 Genji I mean.. job title? Workplace function? And what does the office actually do?
19:03 SelfishMan and if it benefits the masses then I'm even more willing to commit to it
19:03 SelfishMan Genji: I'll do anything that challenges me
19:02 pianohacker I'll just assume you host warez and leave it at that :)
19:02 SelfishMan Not really that serious since everyone makes you sign NDAs these days
19:02 Genji SelfishMan: what do you do?
19:02 pianohacker Very serious then
19:02 SelfishMan pianohacker: Can't really talk about that (NDAs)
19:01 SelfishMan At the office I have a room for servers and a room for storage
19:01 pianohacker like what?
19:01 SelfishMan I deal with a lot of large datasets
19:01 Genji You own a Datacenter?
19:01 Genji How is that possible?
19:01 pianohacker What on earth is that intended for?
19:01 Genji wow...
19:00 SelfishMan pianohacker: yep.
19:00 pianohacker SelfishMan: 400TB?
19:00 Genji Which we could of got via ftp from the pages directory, if LL gave us access.
19:00 * veryinky_ is reading the koha mailing list about others who had the same problem and how they fixed it.
19:00 SelfishMan I have about 400TB of free space available to me so disk space isn't a concern and bandwidth usage is minimal
18:59 veryinky_ Ok. I didn't have this problem with 3.0 and 3.0.2 so I was curious as to why it happened.
18:58 SelfishMan Genji: looks like every article has 15-20 variations on it. I'm sure the dataset is only a few hundred meg at most
18:58 pianohacker veryinky_: you can continue past that and test later, especially if you're not going to use the OAI server
18:57 veryinky_ But OAI 2.1.5 is the most recent one I found.
18:57 veryinky_ Looking at a weird error. Warning: prerequisite HTTP::OAI 3.2 not found.
18:54 pianohacker veryinky_: any luck?
18:47 Genji SelfishMan: compression will bring that down. .tar.gz'ed of course. good thing i didn't continue, havent got 4 gb to spare. Wow.. The wiki is a couple of books and then some.
18:45 veryinky_ Or not. 6 minutes in and it opened the file. Now to find a "koh" in a giant file filled with "koha"s.
18:45 SelfishMan 4GB in size though
18:45 veryinky_ pianohacker, well, editing the makefile directly does not seem to be an option on this computer. 5 minutes later it's still trying to open the file. Looks like I'll have to bite the bullet and remake.
18:44 SelfishMan 52,017 objects fetched
18:43 SelfishMan almost done though it looks like
18:43 SelfishMan still running
18:42 Genji SelfishMan: how far did you get with the mirroring?
18:42 Genji hiya all
18:42 owen Hmmm... ssh server installed on Ubuntu?
18:38 owen ...in the VirtualBox config xml
18:37 owen and "...ssh/GuestPort" value="22"/>"
18:37 owen I've got "...ssh/HostPort" value="2222"/>"
18:36 wizzyrea 22, if you did it Like I did
18:36 owen wizzyrea: With ssh hostport configured to 2222 shouldn't I be able to ssh to localhost:2222?
18:32 wizzyrea gmcharlt: thanks, that was what I assuming
18:31 veryinky_ It's a community historical society, so they don't exactly have state of the art hardware.
18:31 pianohacker veryinky_: one-time-speed-hack: also change it in the Makefile directly, you might not have to run the whole make again
18:31 veryinky_ (old but not that old)
18:31 pianohacker I was _hoping_ that was a typo
18:31 veryinky_ er, 1 gig ram
18:31 veryinky_ 1.2 ghz cpu, 1 meg ram
18:30 pianohacker urg.
18:30 veryinky_ Yeah, already got gedit out to fix it. Just annoyed, this is an old computer, make takes an hour
18:30 pianohacker You could directly edit the install log, and change koh to koha
18:30 veryinky_ Yes.
18:29 pianohacker veryinky_: I'm assuming you ran Makefile.PL with the --prev-install-log argument
18:29 veryinky_ Yeah, it's koha koha, koha directory
18:29 veryinky_ It'd be chown: invalid user: 'koh:koh', Error 1. Yeah, I,m going to fix it.
18:29 pianohacker veryinky_: Is there a koha user set up on your system (and does that user own your Koha install directory)?
18:28 pianohacker translations++
18:28 veryinky_ (sorry, it's in french, but this is for a historical society in quebec, canada)
18:28 veryinky_ make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Erreur 1
18:28 veryinky_ chown: usager invalide: `koh:koh'
18:27 veryinky_ make install update
18:27 pianohacker veryinky_: That should be koha:koha, I think. What's that error from?
18:27 * pianohacker adds blarg about tightvnc resetting auth password upon - wery wery bad when the machine is half an hour away
18:26 veryinky_ chown: Invalid user: 'koh:koh'
18:26 nengard so - lunch done - a nice garlicy soup - to kill the sick in me - only good for somone who only talks with her fingers :) hehe
18:26 veryinky_ blarg.
18:25 jdavidb owen++
18:25 collum yay
18:25 owen So yay, working! and Boo...don't know what I changed to make it work.
18:25 jdavidb I generally disable the default config. It's one more way in the door, and I prefer to control those.
18:25 owen Aaand... somewhere along the way things started working.
18:23 nengard back
18:22 owen *:80 127.0.1.1 (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:1)
18:22 owen wildcard NameVirtualHosts and _default_ servers:
18:22 owen 10.0.2.15:8080 oleonard-desktop (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:49)
18:22 owen 10.0.2.15:80 oleonard-desktop (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:6)
18:22 owen VirtualHost configuration:
18:22 owen Okay, "apache2ctl -S" give me this:
18:21 jwagner chris_n, still online?
18:20 Ropuch Hm, anyone running 3.2?
18:18 gmcharlt_ it force a general bib update, which has the effect of updating the embedded item data
18:17 wizzyrea question: functionally, what does changing the framework do on an existing record? What I want to know is: if you have a messed up bib with empty, erroneous items, why would changing the framework fix the problem? does it rewrite the marcxml blob?
18:14 brendan good luck chris
18:14 brendan New Zealand --> in group F, with Italy so far
18:13 jdavidb brendan: I'm not a huge football fan--always tried to be philosophical about the World Cup--it's not a matter of *if* USA will get their clocks cleaned by nations that take it more seriously than we do, but *when.*
18:12 brendan wow USA draws England in group C --> for world cup 2010
18:11 * veryinky_ watches system resources monitor, for lack of a better thing to do.
18:10 wizzyrea doh
18:05 veryinky_ :|
18:04 owen Same :P
18:03 wizzyrea sudo :P
18:03 owen "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}"
18:02 pianohacker Good quick way to check vhost configuration
18:02 pianohacker owen: what does an apache2 -S within VirtualBox show?
18:02 collum me too
18:02 wizzyrea (i know that I have solved this problem before...)
18:02 wizzyrea :/
18:01 owen Has no effect
18:00 collum owen: http://man.he.net/man8/a2dissite
17:59 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3713 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, When Editing Items existing branch values are ignored
17:59 sekjal does anyone know if the patch for bug 3713 is going to be rolled into 3.0.5, or 3.2? I don't see it in the 3.0.4 log
17:59 * veryinky_ yawns and watches makes.
17:59 wizzyrea then restart apache
17:59 wizzyrea sudo a2dissite default
17:58 nengard wow - look at the time ... guess i should eat some lunch - soup it is - be back soon
17:58 owen ?
17:58 wizzyrea which would disable the default config
17:57 wizzyrea well you could definitely try a2dissite default
17:55 collum the other errors do, but I'm not sure what's going on.
17:55 collum the fully qualified domain name shouldn't matter
17:54 owen "(13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80"
17:54 owen "(13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80"
17:54 owen I did, and got a couple of errors, don't know if they're relevant: "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"
17:53 collum owen: Did you restart apache after you made the configuration change? collum doesn't really want to ask this question.
17:51 owen :|
17:50 hdl_laptop2 I will try with a marc21 install
17:50 hdl_laptop2 could be. But would be strange.
17:49 hdl_laptop2 UNIMARC.
17:48 wizzyrea owen: I'm not sure :(
17:48 nengard that could be it
17:48 nengard I am Marc21
17:48 slef nengard: hdl_laptop2 - is one of you UNIMARC and the other MARC21?
17:48 wizzyrea >.>
17:48 owen "inet addr:10.0.2.15"
17:48 wizzyrea Imean, that's what it is on *my* virtualbox
17:47 wizzyrea well is 10.0.2.15 your IP?
17:46 nengard hdl_laptop2 - okay - so what do you think it is? why isn't it working for me in FF?
17:46 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3860 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Can't expand authorities
17:46 brendan bug 3860
17:46 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3863 major, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Amazon Covers Not Working
17:46 hdl_laptop2 nengard, 3860 works for me.
17:46 brendan bug 3863
17:45 slef yes it should
17:45 nengard afternoon
17:45 collum Yep, but shouldn't it work if you are only running koha? You may have to disable the default configuration.
17:45 slef evening
17:44 brendan morning all
17:44 slef *:80 means port 80 on any interface
17:42 owen But still no luck
17:41 owen Okay, <VirtualHost 10.0.2.15:80>
17:40 collum owen: I believe you can also use a wildcard character. *:80, if your ip is not static
17:37 wizzyrea same thing: 10.0.2.15:8080
17:37 wizzyrea there will also be a line farther down for the intranet
17:36 wizzyrea instead of 127.0.0.1
17:36 wizzyrea ah, yea, ifconfig to find out the guest IP, and stick that in there
17:36 owen <VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:80>
17:35 wizzyrea (sorry that took way longer than it should have)
17:35 wizzyrea <VirtualHost 10.0.2.15:80>
17:33 wizzyrea example:
17:33 wizzyrea you have configured your koha.conf with the IP:80 of your virtualbox?
17:32 Colin looks like a negative feature got merged in
17:32 wizzyrea ...thinking... ...looking...
17:31 owen I can only get to Koha via http://oleonard-desktop/
17:30 owen ..same as going to "localhost" on my guest browser
17:30 wizzyrea hrm
17:30 owen localhost:88 in my host browser reaches the "It works!" default Apache page
17:30 wizzyrea in your host browser?
17:29 wizzyrea localhost:88 doesn't work?
17:29 nengard Ah - mine is after the big merge
17:29 wizzyrea erm, maybe not
17:29 nengard in the the authority cataloging I get diddily
17:29 Colin works for me -- but that's without the latest big merge
17:29 nengard colin in cataloging my cursor turns into a finger when i mouse over labels
17:29 wizzyrea Iknow
17:29 wizzyrea oh oh oh
17:29 wizzyrea OH
17:29 owen wizzyrea: Says Listen 80 and Listen 8080.
17:29 nengard shouldn't be - I can do it with the cataloging module in the same browser
17:28 wizzyrea usually /etc/apache2/ports.conf
17:28 Colin nengard: Is that a browser specific issue?
17:28 owen Where should I check?
17:27 wizzyrea you have your listening ports configured in apache?
17:27 wizzyrea yea, that sounds like apache... but what...
17:26 owen So if I point the browser on my host to "localhost:88" it reaches the default Apache page
17:26 owen ...but "localhost" points to the default Apache page
17:26 owen Working in VirtualBox I can access Koha at "http://oleonard-desktop/"
17:25 wizzyrea either way, may be able to help
17:25 owen Anyway...
17:25 owen wizzyrea: Maybe it's not a VirtualBox question, maybe it's just an Apache config question.
17:24 wizzyrea owen, I'll do my best
17:24 nengard this is causing me a big issue since i can't write the authorities docs if I can't actually add an authority
17:23 munin 04Bug 3860: critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Can't expand authorities
17:23 nengard GRRR - Can't add an authority because I can't expand collapsed fields ... http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3860
17:21 * chris_n goes off in search of food
17:21 nengard awesome
17:21 chris_n nengard: kohadoc git works now tnx to hdl
17:18 sekjal does anyone know which permission a user must have to be able to set their library?
17:18 sekjal hey all, quick question
17:15 owen wizzyrea around? Got more more VirtualBox questions if you're game
17:07 nengard nevermind - played with it - and it moves the item -
17:06 nengard what does this do? move the item from one to another? or put it on both?
17:06 nengard just found something new - again - the ability to attach an item to a bib
17:05 nengard hey all
16:58 nengard owen - went to the supermarket after dr to pick up some meds - and it was PACKED - I jinxed it because of my comment to you about snow and milk :)
16:54 slef owen: just so
16:45 * veryinky_ wrote down everything that I had to do differently from the guide.
16:45 veryinky_ I'm not too confident yet, but I could help someone re-write that "koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy" for the most recent version of ubuntu, along with 3.0.4
16:44 Ropuch Besides: if one goes to download.koha.org an see: 3.0-stable, 3.0.1-stable and then only number, it's not unusual to assume that the higher numners are some dev releases
16:43 veryinky_ Hehe.
16:42 Ropuch veryinky_: you're not the first person ;)
16:40 veryinky_ (though 3.0.2 does nicely, as far as I can tell)
16:40 veryinky_ I blame my error on following the wiki.koha.org koha installation guide, which installs 3.0.2 instead of 3.0.4
16:39 Ropuch Yeah, I know
16:39 owen We all hope such confusion will be avoided in the future when all Koha release managers and maintainers have proper access to koha.org
16:38 Ropuch owen: there is some naming incosistency: people tend to download and test 3.02 as it is marked as stable
16:38 veryinky_ ah
16:37 hilongo IIRC
16:37 hilongo veryinky: yes ... initial 0.4 had a problem and there were access problems that lead to a "renamed release"
16:36 owen veryinky: Yes
16:35 veryinky_ (koha-3.00.04_fixed.tar.gz)
16:34 veryinky_ Why was it called _fixed? initial 0.4 had a problem?
16:32 jwagner schuster and hdl_laptop2, thanks. One of my sites was asking about it.
16:27 schuster jwagner - I have paid for some sponsorship to Liblime about that but have not heard any update on the status of my 3 development projects lately.
16:25 hdl_laptop2 jwagner, yes
16:20 Ropuch veryinky_: good luck [;
16:19 veryinky_ Ropuch, thanks. Seems to be working.
16:19 jwagner Oh, good! Is that one of the things in the new head?
16:19 hdl_laptop2 I am working on updatedatabase today
16:19 hdl_laptop2 Since it has been ported by us.
16:18 hdl_laptop2 jwagner, normally, should be on master now.
16:18 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Add XSL Support for Staff Client -- was: ISBN being truncated
16:18 jwagner Does anyone know current status on Bug 2165 about adding XSLT to staff side? Is that being actively sponsored/worked on?
16:16 veryinky_ (mostly 100+ year old books, not so much a lending library as much as a historical archive)
16:16 Ropuch veryinky_: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2009-July/019328.html
16:15 * veryinky_ is setting up koha to list books at this historical society, and also list books at nearby local achives and universities.
16:14 Ropuch veryinky_: upgrading is easy, give me sec
16:13 Ropuch We should do something about naming inconsistency on koha.org - you're not the first person confused
16:13 veryinky_ I just finished installing 3.0.2, about an hour ago. Is there an easy way to upgrade or should I uninstall koha entirely and re-install 3.0.4?
16:13 Ropuch http://koha.org/news/koha-3.0.4-released
16:13 Ropuch It's been a while
16:11 veryinky_ When was 3.0.4 released, I could swear it was 3.0.2 yesterday.
16:10 Ropuch veryinky_: why you're installing 3.0.2 when latest stable release is 3.0.4?
16:03 veryinky_ I'm just happy it runs, accidentally installed 3.0.0 instead of 3.0.2, spent a few days trying to figure out what went wrong before re-installing.
16:01 Ropuch New aquisition module is pretty cool
16:01 * Ropuch is poking around 3.2
15:59 veryinky_ I got koha to run, seem to have tested most things and still no errors. Not much enthusiasm to start working the book database for real though.
15:58 veryinky_ :|
15:56 * jdavidb queries his implant for "good chili" and gets back "go make some, fool. Texas is too far to drive."
15:56 jdavidb That might be handy.
15:55 wizzyrea jdavidb I was thinking of things like, you like gelato... when approaching a gelato shop it says 1500m to gelato shop
15:50 * wizzyrea faints
15:50 wizzyrea omg I got a karma bump from slef
15:48 jdavidb gmcharlt++ #again. Sure enough, commenting out the second local-number entry got me past the hump.
15:38 chris_n bye kf
15:38 kf time to leave - have a nice weekend everybody :)
15:36 chris_n but I think that nengard must have rebased ok
15:35 chris_n and I'm still waiting to hear from hdl_laptop2 on his thoughts
15:35 chris_n I have not yet attempted another rebase... the first attempt was enough stress for one week :-)
15:35 owen slef: Meaning their site didn't need the features WordPress provided?
15:34 jwagner chris_n, good news! Do you have notes about what went wrong & warnings for what anyone else would need to do? I made a note about all the Perl dependencies yesterday.
15:34 * chris_n breaths a sigh of relief
15:33 chris_n jwagner: fwiw, my dev install is back to where it was prior to the bad rebase
15:31 slef hi chris_n
15:31 slef asked them if they'd remove the linkspam that's been injected into the theme
15:31 chris_n heya slef
15:31 slef spotted a law project today using wordpress for everything apparently for no reason beside it being cool
15:31 slef wizzyrea++
15:28 jdavidb It'd be nice to have it pop up stuff like, "where did I meet this person who looks familiar..."
15:28 * jdavidb finds reality interesting enough, and wonders what sort of "augmentation" wizzyrea suggests.
15:28 chris_n lol
15:28 owen ...until the spammers hit your implants with popup ads
15:25 wizzyrea though augmented reality through corneal implants would be neat.
15:24 wizzyrea i have an iphone, I don't need implants :P
15:21 jwagner Maybe someone will give Bluetooth a whole new meaning...
15:20 * gmcharlt awaits the net implant for his brain
15:20 jwagner Try grumpy instead of sassy. Starting the day with no network connectivity is equivalent to getting out of bed on the wrong side. My whole LIFE is backed up online somewhere. Can't function without a network link!
15:17 wizzyrea luckily I can pretty easily work from home
15:17 wizzyrea jwagner: true! (for some reason that isn't terribly irksome to me, I've been at home with a sick one for 3 days now)
15:16 jdavidb Beware of jwagner; she's in a sassy mood today, I think.
15:16 jwagner but you'll have all weekend to recover! (*ducks*)
15:16 wizzyrea a capital idea
15:16 owen wizzyrea: You'll have to teach him how to fetch you snacks and drinks while you lounge on the couch
15:12 wizzyrea though spud seems better :P
15:12 wizzyrea oh and the hubs is sick
15:11 wizzyrea yea, this week is awesome: Spud's sick, now the Sitter is sick, and I'm getting sick. Sweeeet.
15:11 jdavidb :) Mornin', wizzyrea and Spud!
15:10 jwagner good morning to wizzyrea and Spud
15:09 wizzyrea and good morning.
15:09 wizzyrea ...Spud says hi
15:09 wizzyrea b
15:09 * jwagner cracks the whip
15:09 jwagner Now hop to it for today's Must Do list!
15:08 * jdavidb chuckles
15:07 jwagner Of course. I have faith in you :-)
15:07 jdavidb ...in my loads of spare time? Will require re-index on each system, of course.
15:06 jwagner OK, I'll let jdavidb figure out how to do that & set it up :-)
15:06 gmcharlt jwagner: I suggest making up a new one, std-control-number or the like
15:05 jwagner er, evil past would be me. The purpose of turning it on in the index is for a bibload match point. I just uncommented the 035 line already in record.abs. If it can't use Local Number, what index could we set that to?
15:04 jdavidb gmcharlt++
15:03 schuster Thanks everyone for your insight have to get ready for my javascript class!
15:02 jdavidb Ah-hah. gotcha. Sometime in the evil past, this one got 035 turned on to localnumber, but nothing turned off. I'll try that. Thanks!
15:01 schuster nice to see you gmcharlt
15:01 gmcharlt as the recordId is special - it needs to be a unique, single-value-per-record value
15:00 gmcharlt in this case, the 999$c (for biblionumber)
15:00 chris_n bbl
15:00 gmcharlt jdavidb: doubt it, but you want the Local-number (regardless of case) to be drawing from exactly one subfield
15:00 schuster 6.05, 4.41, 3.78 - went to 200 seconds and is gone now
15:00 jdavidb Case sensitivity problem?
15:00 jdavidb But zebra-biblios.cfg shows recordId: (bib1,Local-number)
14:59 jdavidb I note that 999$c is defined as "Local-Number", not "Local-number". Only thing I have pointing at "Local-number" is 035.
14:59 jdavidb :D I've got a blowup happening on reindex, barking about no match on (bib1, Local-number).
14:58 gmcharlt jdavidb: Zebra config questin?
14:58 jdavidb When they get over 1000, that's a *definite* problem.
14:58 jdavidb A longish query like that *can* cause problems, but that doesn't seem overly long, for a report or something.
14:58 schuster There is one process over 100 seconds but there isn't a way to tell what it is.
14:57 jdavidb gmcharlt is the Zebra configs guru; he's gotten me out of jams before. Around?
14:54 jdavidb A load average on the order of 3, for a multi-cpu box like yours, normally shouldn't be a problem, in and of itself. MySQL SHOW PROCESSLIST show any stragglers, processes running way too long?
14:53 schuster hm yep load averages are going up... 2.62, 4.12, 3.61
14:53 jdavidb I remember. :P
14:52 schuster hm ok - all I know is they caused me tons of trouble.
14:51 jdavidb I'm *sure* I've got some too-long-for-MARC recs, schuster. No need to look to see if I do.
14:51 schuster To double check oversized records?
14:51 * jdavidb looks at nengard's ghost very puzzledly...
14:51 schuster have you looked at select biblionumber, title, length(marcxml) from biblio and count(*) somehow?
14:50 jdavidb 999$c, which is what we *really* want, is defined as Local-Number. Case problem?
14:50 nengard jdavidb - you're gonna put that query on the wiki right?
14:49 jdavidb yeah, I'm seeing it on a fresh install, too.
14:49 jwagner jdavidb, I see that same line on my sandbox
14:49 schuster thanks for the query... ;)
14:47 jdavidb Oh-hoh. zebra-biblios.cfg has a line "recordId: (bib1,Local-number)" That don't look right to me..
14:46 * chris_n has many records w/o 035 and zebra indexes fine
14:45 jdavidb SELECT count(*) FROM biblioitems WHERE marcxml NOT LIKE '%<datafield tag="035"%'; returns 1079 records, sure enough. But why would it be *requiring* that?
14:44 schuster schuster knows jdavidb has probably done that already...
14:44 schuster Can you query for a bib without 035 tag?
14:42 jdavidb The only entry in record.abs that points at Local-number is the 035.
14:42 jdavidb The error is barking about (bib1,Local-number).
14:42 chris_n heh
14:42 jdavidb I'm not sure of anything.
14:42 chris_n jdavidb: are we sure it is the biblionumber causing the issue?
14:41 jdavidb That's what I thought, too, so I ran rebuild_zebra with -x to overcome that, and got the same error,.
14:41 schuster It could be that you have something where there are too many items which causes it to crash.
14:41 jdavidb pardon?
14:41 schuster how big is the MARC file jdavidb?
14:40 jdavidb chris_n, I didn't find any of those, either. almost gotta be something in the marc/marcxml.
14:40 schuster This morning I run it and there are 856 and the mysql poped right back so maybe that alone will help.
14:39 jdavidb Oh, okay. you're one ahead of me, then. ;-)
14:39 schuster Yes - last night I cleared and optimized sessions... there were only 77,000 but that query did take some time.
14:39 schuster sorry "serverbusy"
14:39 jdavidb Something I've bumped into: do a MySQL: SELECT count(*) FROM sessions;
14:38 schuster yesterday we even had a couple librarians indicate they got "system busy messages" in circ...
14:38 schuster Just trying to see if there is anything I can do system wise to speed things up.
14:38 schuster Yes I see mysql is running 44.7%
14:37 jdavidb Not having much memory free on an application like this is no particular problem--MySQL can have most of it, and that's not harmful.
14:36 jdavidb If your system ever starts swapping, schuster, I should be very worried.
14:36 jdavidb none of those, either.
14:36 schuster I find it interesting that I have a 16 GIG memory and only 1108572k free - I do have most of it in swap but that number never chnages.
14:36 chris_n jdavidb: somthing like 'SELECT * FROM biblioitems WHERE biblionumber = 0' rather
14:36 jdavidb Exactly, chris_n. But the records won't index.
14:36 chris_n jdavidb: somthing like 'SELECT * FROM biblio WHERE biblionumber = 0' might be more enlightening
14:35 jdavidb I don't think there's anything as clean and easy as "top", but there are tools.
14:35 chris_n jdavidb: in biblio.biblionumber is not null autoincrement and biblioitems.biblionumber is not null default 0, so unless you have bad data, there should never be no biblionumber
14:35 jdavidb iostat has some interesting bits you might look at. "man iostat" from a privileged account should give you some ideas.
14:34 schuster ok so is there a way to monitor IO?
14:34 jdavidb Doesn't mean there won't be other lags--IO, database lock mutexes, network--but CPU shouldn't be an issue for you.
14:33 jdavidb Give you have, effectively, 8 CPUs, any number lower than that indicates less-than-full utilization.
14:33 magnusenger "Load average over 1, 5, and 15 minutes. The load average is the average number of jobs in the run queue." http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/top/
14:33 jdavidb The load average at any given instant is the number of processes currently running on a cpu, plus any that *could* run, if there was cpu available for them. Those numbers are the 1, 5, and 15-minute averages of those instant numbers.
14:32 schuster Load averages.
14:32 jdavidb chris_n: empty set. Same searching in biblioitems, too.
14:32 magnusenger schuster: happy hunting! ;-)
14:32 schuster 1.35, 2.27, 2.39 - so what does that tell me?
14:32 schuster thanks manusenger - I'm trying to determine why the system gets really slow at 8:30... time to go watch activity.
14:31 jdavidb schuster: Way, way more useful than CPU % is the load average numbers.
14:31 chris_n jdavidb: somthing like 'SELECT * FROM biblio WHERE biblionumber = NULL' maybe
14:31 schuster Where is the biblionumber stored? could you go at it from items looking for items where biblionumber is null?
14:30 veryinky_ Um. What would be the easiest way to update koha 3.0.0 to koha 3.0.2, was about to re-install, but...
14:30 magnusenger schuster: i'm no top expert, but found this: "Time spent in niced tasks will also be counted in system and user time, so the total will be more than 100%." http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_top.htm
14:28 jdavidb Well, the indexing run broke again, with the same error, despite using -x in the rebuild_zebra.. Any idea how to *find* the record-with-no-biblionumber-in-it?
14:28 schuster no hills but yes in the snow! Thankfully they had plowed the sidewalks!
14:27 jdavidb schuster: Uphill, both ways, in three-foot-deep snow?
14:26 schuster People in Texas don't know cold.
14:26 schuster I grew up in South Dakota! ask me about walking to class at the university with windchill -60 F!
14:25 owen nengard: Naw, I grew up in Kansas. Ask wizzyrea about Kansas snow.
14:25 schuster as I add up CPU% often it is over 100% - I am running a dell box Debian with 2 Quad core Xeon processors...???
14:25 nengard owen it's people like you who buy up all of the milk when we're expecting an inch of snow - aren't you??? hehe
14:25 chris_n must be why it never snows in NC ;-)
14:24 chris_n schuster: lol :-)
14:24 schuster question for you system types. I'm running top to watch processes.
14:24 schuster chris_n of course it is everything in TEXAS is bigger and better ya know... We'll have it worn down before it leaves here! HA
14:23 * owen runs down the street yelling "It's coming! Prepare yourselves!!"
14:23 schuster Yes it probably is - we may get snow again today - we got some on Tuesday it all melted and there was actually one school district northwest of us that called school.
14:23 * chris_n wonders if the cold in TX is a bigger cold than in other parts of the US
14:23 nengard so it's coming
14:23 nengard but the weather said that what you have is heading east
14:22 nengard uh huh
14:22 schuster It's bad when it is colder in Texas than in the upper NorthEast!
14:22 jdavidb you are reading ti right. It's colder in TX, and MD, than it is in PA.
14:22 munin owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 1.7�C (9:17 AM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady).
14:22 nengard yikes
14:22 owen @wunder 45701
14:22 nengard wait - am I reading that right? it's colder in Texas than PA?
14:22 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 4.8�C (9:13 AM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising).
14:22 jdavidb @wunder 20852
14:22 munin schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 0.4�C (8:15 AM CST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Rising).
14:22 schuster @wunder 75074
14:20 * chris_n seems to be that way ^^ too often
14:19 * jdavidb really, really dislikes being wrong.
14:15 * veryinky_ was having trouble with updatesupplier.pl line 92.
14:14 veryinky_ Looks like my problem was that I installed 3.0.0 instead of 3.0.2
14:13 munin nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 6.8�C (9:00 AM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising).
14:13 nengard @wunder 19030
14:13 nengard chris_n - thanks :) I can do it too if you're too busy - just wasn't sure which menu to choose
14:13 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 9.8�C (9:11 AM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady).
14:13 chris_n @wunder 28334
14:13 chris_n btw, I saw your bug for the quick label print menu; I'll try to get it in with my next batch of patches
14:13 nengard np - I have special access so I can push my updates - so that's probably why it works for me while you're having issues
14:12 chris_n tnx nengard
14:12 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 5.9�C (9:10 AM EST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady).
14:12 jwagner @wunder 20740
14:11 nengard or anyone at BibLibre really
14:09 chris_n I was hoping he could
14:09 nengard maybe hdl_laptop2 can help you with that - I just pushed my updates with no issues ....
14:09 chris_n nengard: yes
14:09 nengard chris_n are you still having issues getting the docs?
14:08 chris_n hdl_laptop2 about?
14:00 Ropuch Hehe, you're right ;>
13:54 owen Don't be too sure Ropuch ;)
13:53 Ropuch But i guess you've already check that one
13:53 Ropuch /etc/apache2/sites-available/default?
13:52 Ropuch Um
13:51 owen Anyone know where this _default_ configuration is coming from?
13:51 owen "_default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80"
13:51 owen I'm getting the default Apache page rather than the Koha opac
13:50 owen I'm happy to report that I got Windows talking to my VirtualBox Koha server, but in the process I messed up my Apache config
13:49 imp heyho owen
13:48 owen Hi all
13:43 chris_n g'morning
13:41 jdavidb This is a copy of data from a running system to a test box with a default installation, so I don't think there's anything insanely wrong with the data.
13:40 hdl_laptop2 or you are trying to index a wrong field for your bibliorecord
13:40 jdavidb Hm...that'd be bad.
13:39 hdl_laptop2 seems that you donot have any biblionumber in your biblio records.
13:39 jdavidb I've done that, and re-running the index now.
13:38 jdavidb I googled around some, and bibs with large numbers of items seem to cause that a lot. turning on switch -x seemed to help, for most.
13:38 hdl_laptop2 This is not new for me.
13:38 hdl_laptop2 jdavidb, yes.
13:36 nengard for the manual
13:36 nengard sent it via email already :) wanted to know what the diff options under the cart export would look like
13:36 hdl_laptop2 nengard, yes
13:21 nengard hdl_laptop2 around?
13:16 jdavidb Hi, kf! :)
13:16 jwagner Morning kf
13:16 kf hi jwagner and jdavidb :)
13:15 jdavidb Anyone ever seen that happen?
13:15 jdavidb This is a new one on me...doing a rebuild_zebra, and get "Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)". Indexing stops at that point, which is Kinda Bad.
13:13 jwagner Harrumph!
13:09 Ropuch ;>
13:04 janewagner Network problems are SO much fun!
12:27 greenmang0 slef: ok... no problem :)
12:27 slef greenmang0: I'm not sure and I'd have to look it up and today's my first day back in the office after a while.
12:13 greenmang0 slef: yes.. kete is there... but i want to do it without kete if possible...
12:12 greenmang0 slef: or can it be achieved in any other way?
12:12 greenmang0 slef: is Full Text Search an only option to this?
12:12 greenmang0 slef: i can use 856u field to put a location of PDF file and i can get the link when i search for a book.... but what i want to do is... i want to search the content of pdfs and koha should show up that link
12:05 greenmang0 slef: need to check archives :)
12:04 slef greenmang0: I forget. Hasn't there been a bit of traffic about that on the list?
11:59 magnusenger morale: check the logs before doing anything else ;-)
11:58 magnusenger ah, forget it, i got some file permissions mixed up!
11:56 magnusenger ouch... i'm playing around with OPACFRBRizeEditions and ran "batchupdateISBNs.pl -noxml" to normalize the ISBNs in biblioitems.isbn. now all i get from opac-detail.pl is a Koha 404, eg: http://dev.bibpode.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=271191 Any ideas?
11:46 greenmang0 slef: is it my ignorance... or it is a bug? since.. it's not in admin module
11:45 greenmang0 slef: but i didn't find anything anywhere regarding Full Text Search
11:45 greenmang0 slef: hmm.... one more question... koha's features list says it supports "full text search"
11:43 slef Does that make sense to you greenmang0?
11:43 slef so you wouldn't need to add them as New Preferences
11:43 slef but then those should already be loaded into the admin
11:43 slef There is a sysprefs.sql file in the sources which should contain them all
11:42 slef It's quite a bit of work and if anything in the source isn't listed in the admin already, that's a bug, so it's quite a bit of work to do a bugfix.
11:42 greenmang0 slef: ok...
11:41 slef I don't know if it's documented. You can get the variables by grepping the source for C4::Context.*preference IIRC, but then you have to read the source to find the values.
11:40 greenmang0 slef: ^^
11:40 greenmang0 where can I get the list of variables and values?... is it documented ??
11:40 greenmang0 there's an option in Koha Admin to add a New Preference ... but for that Variable and Value has to be defined... how to achieve that?
11:39 munin greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (4:40 PM IST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
11:39 greenmang0 @wunder mumbai
11:27 munin Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 22.0�C (11:30 AM IST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 20.0�C.
11:27 Amit @wunder Bangalore India
11:01 slef good idea
10:53 * Ropuch is going to get another cup of coffee
10:53 Ropuch Ugh, found it, silly typo in bash_profile and misinterpreting the error message
10:46 Ropuch Hmm, vim shows it's ascii 123 so it is a opening curly bracket
10:41 Ropuch Even my bash_profile won't execute
10:41 Ropuch but i can't get any code displaying & wroking when switched to tty
10:41 Ropuch Everything is working just fine while I'm using X
10:40 Ropuch yup
10:40 slef Ropuch: that's an odd one - braces are usually base ASCII I think
10:36 Ropuch Good night Genjimoto
10:35 Genjimoto okay, im off to bed. night all.
10:35 Ropuch Hm, anyone has a clue why { } are not displayed (and interpreted) properly on my ttys?
10:16 slef wonder if it worked
10:06 slef now try to install again
10:06 CGI348 yeah I have done
10:03 slef leave no_proxy empty probably
10:02 slef is more likely I think
10:01 slef q[http://10.1.100.7:8080]
10:01 slef for your proxy server
10:01 CGI348 is it?
10:01 CGI348 above was the result. should i put in it q[10.1.100.7:8080]
10:00 slef with the right protocol name and number
09:59 slef q[http://proxyserver.whatever:8080/]
09:58 CGI348 'no_proxy' => q[],
09:58 CGI348 'ftp_proxy' => q[], 'http_proxy' => q[],
09:58 slef save and retry the install lines
09:58 slef lines and put the urls for you proxy in it
09:57 slef now look for the proxy
09:57 slef should be ok
09:56 CGI348 is it?
09:56 CGI348 i have opened via sudo gedit /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm
09:56 slef needs to be sudo
09:56 slef open /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm in an editor... are you ok with that?
09:55 slef phone brb
09:53 CGI348 ok
09:53 slef thinking first :)
09:53 slef actually wait a mo
09:53 slef ok, quit that, open /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm
09:52 CGI348 slef: then??
09:52 slef that's not good
09:52 slef Autoconfigured everything but 'urllist'.
09:51 slef reading
09:51 pastebot "CGI348" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "err] $ sudo cpan Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI" (494 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/78
09:49 slef actually paste it there and pastebot should tell us the link
09:48 slef Amit: hi hi
09:48 slef CGI348: paste the full error into http://paste.workbuffer.org/ and tell us the link
09:48 Amit heya slef
09:48 slef http://paste.workbuffer.org/
09:47 slef help where's the pastebin?
09:47 slef CGI348: can you paste it into
09:46 CGI348 slef: should i paste total error
09:46 CGI348 slef:it show cpan[4]>
09:43 masonj thanx!
09:42 slef I've asked. It says he's offline. I'll relay an answer when I get it.
09:41 masonj just a quick thumbs up/down...
09:40 masonj sure :)
09:40 slef masonj: do you want me to ask him something?
09:40 slef masonj: no but it sounds familiar so I think colleague BR might know about it.
09:39 masonj slef: ever used/heard-of zmanda mysql-backup tool?
09:37 slef It'll ask a lot of questions, but for all of the "Where is your ... program?" ones you should be able to just press enter to accept the suggested answer in []s
09:37 slef then when it gets to the http_proxy and ftp_proxy parts, type the right answers in
09:36 slef then type at the cpan> prompt o conf init
09:36 slef ok, rerun sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell
09:36 CGI348 yeah on proxy server
09:36 masonj http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/
09:36 masonj follow this guide...
09:35 slef CGI348: and do you have to use a proxy server to get onto the internet?
09:35 slef CGI348: is there an error before the "Couldn't fetch ..."?
09:35 masonj or your network sconfig ;)
09:35 CGI348 so wht should I do. as Im new in linux
09:35 slef That's been wrong almost since it was written IMO. My patches still didn't make it?
09:34 masonj your cpan config is broken...
09:34 CGI348 self: actually I was following the instructions of 'install.debian-lenny'
09:34 slef well, that
09:34 masonj yep
09:34 masonj hes following the guide, i guess...
09:34 hdl_laptop because of INSTALL.debian
09:33 slef hrrm, why dselect?
09:32 CGI348 self:$ sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/debian-lenny.packages' and ' $ sudo apt-get install dselect $ sudo dselect'
09:32 slef ok, the automatic selection doesn't work for you for whatever reason
09:32 CGI348 self: by following commands
09:32 CGI348 self: yeah
09:32 slef debian lenny
09:31 slef excuse me while I read the recent chat history ;-)
09:31 slef "install dselect"?
09:30 CGI348 I dont select cpan mirror but installed automatically when I install dselect
09:30 slef to re-do the configuration and pick different server(s) or add proxy servers, enter o conf init at the cpan> prompt
09:29 slef The key problem is "Could not fetch modules/03modlist.data.gz" which means perl can't look anything up. It's not a koha problem but we'll try to help.
09:28 slef (when you were doing the first run of cpan)
09:28 slef CGI348: are you behind a firewall and what server(s) did you pick for cpan mirror?
09:26 CGI348 Could not fetch modules/03modlist.data.gzGoing to write /home/nouman/.cpan/MetadataWarning: Cannot install Algorithm::CheckDigits, don't know what it is.Try the command i /Algorithm::CheckDigits/to find objects with matching identifiers.Warning: Cannot install SMS::Send, don't know what it is.Try the command i /SMS::Send/to find objects with matching identifiers.Warning: Cannot install HTTP::OAI, don't know what it is.Try th
09:26 slef chris: alive?
09:26 Genji no idea.
09:26 CGI348 Genji: it show following what should I do now
09:22 CGI348 Genji: yeah I know, I enter there 'install Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI' but still show error
09:19 Genji you in a new prompt now?
09:19 Genji thats not an error
09:18 CGI348 nouman@lumhs-b70715be2:~$ sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'shell'Terminal does not support AddHistory.cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.9205)ReadLine support available (maybe install Bundle::CPAN or Bundle::CPANxxl?)
09:18 CGI348 show following error
09:18 CGI348 Genji: It still not work
09:15 Genji then type 'install Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI
09:14 Genji or even do... 'sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'shell' '
09:14 * Genji nods.
09:14 CGI348 actually this is command for installing additional dependencies before installing koha
09:14 Genji '
09:14 Genji install Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI
09:13 Genji CGI348: try sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install
09:13 Genji CGI348: what do you want ot do with them?
09:12 CGI348 $ sudo cpan Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI
09:12 CGI348 this command is not running in debian lenny
09:12 CGI348 I need help koha on debian
09:10 CGI348 hi all
08:33 fredericd ftherese: How is configured your yuipath syspref?
08:32 SelfishMan Well, I think I will have every edit and bit of info on the wiki in multiple formats
08:30 chris yeah thats not right
08:30 ftherese cups takes 2 sec. from the moment the menu item is clicked, koha takes 10 sec.
08:28 ftherese koha drags its feet even just to cycle through to a different menu item
08:28 ftherese cups responds almost instantaneously
08:28 ftherese I just wonder what the heck it could be doing with the requests that takes it so long to respond
08:25 ftherese I can't reasonably expect my librarians to convert to koha if simply adding one book to the database, or even just clicking around the menus is going to be this unresponsive... I am sure that something must be mis-configured
08:24 ftherese I still can't figure out why the response time is so slow... I enabled some of the extensions on apache, but simply accessing the front page even on the server serving as localhost there is a ridiculous amount of delay in the response
08:22 Ropuch I've just switched from gtranslator to lokalize
08:22 chris :)
08:22 Ropuch ;>
08:22 * kf working on translation... again ;)
08:22 kf hi chris
08:22 Ropuch Hi chris
08:22 Ropuch Guten Tag, kf [;
08:21 chris hi kf
08:16 kf hi #koha
07:31 nicomo ok, see ya brendan
07:31 imp gn8
07:31 brendan :)
07:31 brendan good night all
07:31 brendan ok - off to bed
07:31 brendan but I do have to say --- is very dated now
07:31 nicomo in a 2d degree sort of way, i guess
07:31 brendan nicomo - that is / was an excellent old bond movie
07:30 imp the old bond movies are funny imho
07:30 imp :D
07:30 nicomo ho-rri-ble
07:30 nicomo 2 days ago I watched Goldfinger, the 1964 James Bond
07:30 brendan errr. guilty
07:30 brendan I feel like a guilt dog
07:30 nicomo eh eh
07:29 * brendan hangs his head in shame
07:29 brendan Angels and Demons
07:29 nicomo what was it?
07:29 brendan hence why we are awake so late
07:29 brendan horrible
07:29 nicomo horror or horrible?
07:28 brendan Sonja (my wife) and I just watched a horrible movie
07:28 nicomo imp: yes, we're in the same time zone :-)
07:28 imp 8:26 (at least for me)
07:28 brendan 23:30
07:28 nicomo what time is it?
07:28 nicomo hi brendan
07:28 * brendan just heading to bed :)
07:27 brendan morning nicomo
07:14 nicomo hello Ropuch
07:13 Ropuch Hello imp, nicomo
07:04 nicomo morning koha
06:58 imp heyho Ropuch
06:57 Ropuch Morning #koha
06:50 chris_n2 g'night
06:50 Genji Whats the namespace of the wiki?
06:48 Genji Mmmhmm.... no vendor lock in...
06:47 chris no
06:47 Genji does anyone not LL have admin access to doku?
06:47 chris https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
06:46 chris of course the most famous is
06:46 chris does stuff like https://launchpad.net/gwibber
06:46 chris https://launchpad.net/
06:45 Genji whats launchpad?
06:45 chris im going to look into launchpad
06:45 chris i was talking to some colleagues at beer oclock
06:44 chris there are a bunch of features if you have admin access
06:44 Genji Wish there was a 'export' button... or a list of all the pages that actually exist on doku.
06:43 Genji I tried, failed. theres just too much.
06:43 chris well done guys
06:42 Genji Cool.
06:41 imp yes, i'm to lazy to remove the ones that does not exists (but they are only 12 lines long, so i really don't care)
06:40 Genji that all of them, imp?
06:40 imp 32M 4. Dez 07:38 koha-bugs.tar.gz
06:23 Genji hoping that it compresses well.
06:21 * Genji nods. "Agreed.. so just let it run.
06:21 SelfishMan but I didn't really specify any restrictions and I'm not up for restarting it
06:21 Genji export_raw's would of given you less mb's.
06:21 SelfishMan Yeah, I figured as much
06:21 Genji wiki.koha.org/doku.php?do=export_raw&id=rachelskatipoplan
06:20 Genji for instance]
06:19 Genji wiki.koha.org/doku.php?do=export_xhtml&id=acquisition
06:19 Genji ya, you got some unnecessary pages.
06:14 SelfishMan currently fetched pages
06:14 SelfishMan http://selfishman.net/wikispider.txt
06:11 Genji k.
06:11 SelfishMan it spidered into other sites but that should be only one level
06:11 Genji And how deep did you let it go?
06:11 Genji ...
06:11 SelfishMan I think I forgot to restrict it to wiki.koha.org
06:11 Genji what?
06:11 SelfishMan oh crap
06:11 Genji looking at wget docs.. i have no idea if it can exclude links when mirroring.
06:10 SelfishMan I probably should have made it play nice
06:09 SelfishMan ah, ok
06:09 SelfishMan increasing fairly fast
06:09 SelfishMan 25,468 objects
06:09 SelfishMan 25,444 objects
06:09 pianohacker atz and gmcharlt (when they worked for liblime) were the only ones
06:09 munin Genji: I have not seen Joshua.
06:09 Genji @seen Joshua
06:09 munin Genji: I have not seen kados.
06:09 SelfishMan hmm
06:09 Genji @seen kados
06:09 munin Genji: I have not seen josh.
06:09 Genji @seen josh
06:08 pianohacker SelfishMan: not for a while
06:08 Genji Some links you don't need.. like backtrack links and export_ links.
06:08 SelfishMan Aren't there still ll people in here?
06:08 Genji Ah. much better than httrack.
06:08 SelfishMan wget still
06:08 Genji what are you using anyway?
06:08 SelfishMan I have plenty of bandwidth and disk space to spare
06:07 SelfishMan oh yeah
06:07 * Genji nods. 1.6G.... can you afford to let it run?
06:07 SelfishMan I honestly might just let it run
06:06 Genji i have no idea.
06:06 Genji maybe some are aliases.
06:06 SelfishMan last fetched: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:rfcs3.2:pqf_search&idx=en%3Aorganisations
06:06 Genji only got up to 7k.
06:06 SelfishMan I think it might be time to stop
06:06 Genji omg...
06:06 SelfishMan 25,308 objects retrieved
06:05 SelfishMan Somehow, I'm over 1.6GB but it keeps fetching what looks like legit objects
06:04 SelfishMan Genji: how many objects did you fetch with httrack?
06:02 SelfishMan yep
05:55 Genji_spidering Anyway, ill start again with it tomorrow. net gets slloooowww about this time.
05:55 Genji_spidering seems like, if we had access to the ftp ... this could be done quite easily.
05:51 pianohacker Genji_spidering: If you're willing to get page names and do a bit of scripting, you could use this: http://www.dokuwiki.org/export
05:49 Genji_spidering ... I hereby realise that LL has done us a huge disservice.
05:48 Genji_spidering doesn't give me the urls in the names.
05:48 Genji_spidering which is also stupid.
05:47 Genji_spidering err.. pavuk.
05:47 Genji_spidering stopped using httrack... showed signs of going forever. now trying out pavel
05:43 * pianohacker shrugs
05:00 Genji_spidering does anyone have an estimate at how big the wiki is?
04:49 Genji_spidering maybe some circular references... might of made the mistake of making depth too deep.
04:48 pianohacker maybe some uploaded media?
04:45 Genji_spidering this is insane... 433 mb of wiki.
04:33 pianohacker evil, evil canadian air (apparently that's the cause of 15° temps on a sunny day)
04:33 brendan bbiab
04:32 brendan but still cold for us
04:32 brendan errr... pianohacker's
04:32 brendan I don't get close to pianhacker's temp
04:32 brendan brrr....
04:32 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 9.0�C (8:26 PM PST on December 03, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Rising).
04:32 brendan @wunder 93117
04:31 Genji_spidering wow.. wiki.koha... 427 MB and still going.
03:51 pianohacker christ on a pony, I didn't realize it was that cold
03:51 munin pianohacker: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is -10.5�C (8:45 PM MST on December 03, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Steady).
03:51 pianohacker @wunder 81212
03:28 munin Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 21.0�C (5:30 AM IST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 18.0�C.
03:28 Amit @wunder Bangalore India
03:28 munin Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 13.0�C (5:30 AM IST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa.
03:28 Amit @wunder Dehradun India
03:28 munin Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 14.0�C (8:30 AM IST on December 04, 2009). Conditions: Shallow Fog. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
03:28 Amit @wunder New Delhi India
03:22 Amit everything is fine
03:21 brendan how are you today amit
03:21 brendan sorry amit - that wasn't for you :)
03:21 brendan if you wanted to reread it --> http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today
03:21 brendan hi amit
03:21 Amit hi brendan, chris. chris_n2
03:15 SelfishMan s/this morning/7 hours ago/
03:15 SelfishMan Is the stuff from this morning posted yet?
02:25 jransom ohh - well there you go :)
02:06 pianohacker using the /topic command
02:06 pianohacker jransom: Anyone can change the topic
01:36 jransom can someone who does the message at the top for next meetings make sure that the 5 jan meeting for koha community is recorded somewhere too please.
01:24 Genji_spidering I believe the Koha community has written quite a few books worth of wiki
01:23 Genji_spidering updated stats: 357 MB 6284 files
01:22 * Genji Genji_spidering
01:22 Genji okay, im out for a bit. gotta go shopping. laters all.
00:27 brendan I can only find the UNIMARC version on the git tree
00:26 brendan is that available anywhere?
00:26 brendan MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl
00:21 Genji WooT!
00:20 richard ah sorry called away. yeah we would be happy to host it
00:16 pianohacker I've also had the pastebot crammed in there, but I think the log is more important
00:15 Genji pianohacker++
00:14 Genji the question came up, who will host a new koha website, if negotiations with LL fail? A poetic answer would be Katipo. Katipo + HLT, back together again kinda thing. Catalyst is also a possiblity. Whats your opinion?
00:13 richard been in perpetual meetings but will have a look
00:12 Genji read the log of the meeting?
00:12 richard hi Genji
00:12 Genji hiya richard~