Time  Nick            Message
04:02 Genji           Hello all. How do i add a field to the Zebra index?
05:02 CGI361          It is not very obvious how to use thiss
06:27 Genji           hello? apparently, i need to map my new marc field to a CCL Z39.5 attribute?
06:55 chris           nicomo: voting on bugzilla is too hard?
06:55 nicomo          hi chris
06:55 nicomo          yes, I think it is
06:55 nicomo          as participation in IRC is
06:55 nicomo          I think we have to make a better effort reaching out to people
06:56 nicomo          in ways that are familiar to them
06:56 nicomo          web sites
06:56 chris           i think also people have to make a better effort of reaching back
06:56 chris           it goes two ways
06:56 nicomo          sure does
06:56 chris           there are hundreds of people who have made the effort over the years
06:56 chris           the problem i see with yet another website
06:56 chris           is that who is going to pay attention to it
06:57 nicomo          i didn't say another web site
06:57 chris           following the 7 mailing lists plus bugzilla, plus git takes all my time already
06:57 nicomo          a voting mechanism can be done in the "official" web site
06:57 chris           who is going to maintain it?
06:58 nicomo          you're right that many people have reached out in the past
06:58 nicomo          but more the developer type than the librarian type
06:58 chris           i disagree
06:59 nicomo          let's agree to disagree then
06:59 nicomo          :-)
06:59 chris           ok
06:59 chris           i can find you the numbers if you want :) but sure we can disagre
06:59 chris           e
06:59 nicomo          anyway, regardless of the means used
06:59 nicomo          it can't be bad putting an effort trying to reach out to more librarians
06:59 nicomo          if we can
06:59 chris           sure, i just dont want it to be a timesink
07:00 nicomo          indeed
07:00 nicomo          but I don't feel like bugzilla is the place for that
07:00 nicomo          we never managed to really use it that way
07:00 chris           someone needs to then track the new site, and file enhancements in bugzilla as they are voted on then
07:01 nicomo          yeah, maybe it's not a tool issue
07:01 nicomo          just time
07:01 chris           the worst thing that can happen is having multiple lists of features in different places
07:01 nicomo          and responsability
07:01 chris           *nod*
07:01 chris           that was kinda the idea for the bugwrangler position
07:02 nicomo          that sounds technically oriented to me
07:02 chris           its not meant to be
07:02 nicomo          ok
07:02 chris           the job is keeping bugzilla up to date
07:02 nicomo          I'd like it to be at the junction between community work and tech
07:03 chris           Basically this is someone to keep an eye on bugzilla, make sure bugs are being looked at, closed when they are fixed, tested etc. It is a role a non developer could fulfill.
07:03 chris           if there was a more friendly voting page the role could be expanded to keep the 2 places in sync
07:03 nicomo          I'd like to then add to the "job description": work with librarians, developers, and the community to get feedback, development requests, etc
07:04 chris           go for it, its a wiki :)
07:04 * nicomo        headed that way
07:04 chris           monthly reports would be neat
07:04 chris           x bugs opened, x bugs closed, x new features requested
07:05 nicomo          yes
07:05 chris           could be a section on the website
07:05 nicomo          yes
07:05 nicomo          and voting (I'm stubborn)
07:05 nicomo          ;-)
07:05 chris           if the community ever get edit rights back
07:06 chris           voting is fine, as long as someone does something with the things once they have been voted on :)
07:07 nicomo          very true
07:07 chris           that will be the key, people will get disillusioned fast if they vote on something, and nothing happens
10:14 Ropuch          Morning
10:14 Genji           chris: whats the status with libLime and the wider koha community, anyhow?
10:15 Genji           actually, that question should be "Any:"... feel free to pitch in.
16:22 pianohacker     Good morning
16:58 brendan         morning pianohacker
16:58 pianohacker     hi brendan
16:58 pianohacker     How was your thanksgiving?
16:58 brendan         you have a nice t-day
16:59 brendan         mine was very nice - went camping on the beach and smoked a turkey over a campfire
18:23 CGI039          j
18:23 CGI039          hi
19:38 chris           nz vs france in marseille starting in 10 minutes (rugby)
19:38 chris           i wonder if paul_p is watching
20:19 paul_p          chris about?
20:20 paul_p          or looking at the match and not on the chat ?
20:20 paul_p          all blacks will loose today: they are not all blacks : shirt is white :D
20:22 si              paul: tell that to Scotland :-)
20:22 paul_p          ??
20:22 si              I'm guessing chris is absorbed in the rugby
20:22 paul_p          hi si
20:22 paul_p          3 more points...
20:22 si              paul: NZ often in white playing Scotland, it hasn't helped them in the past
20:22 paul_p          ah, OK.
20:23 si              and why aren't you at the game?
20:23 paul_p          do you know the game is in Marseille, my city ?
20:23 si              I did indeed
20:23 paul_p          because I've 4 children, 3 of them (+me) was ill this week.
20:23 si              ohh dear
20:23 paul_p          s/was/were/
20:23 pianohacker|wor paul_p: what happened?
20:23 paul_p          fortunatly, it was not the flu
20:24 paul_p          mmm...
20:24 paul_p          5 more
20:24 paul_p          NO !
20:24 * si            grins
20:24 * si            is listening on the radio
20:24 paul_p          really great !
20:24 paul_p          that's impossible to describe.
20:24 si              it's about 60 seconds lag
20:24 paul_p          the black was 30cm to the try. and got caught !
20:24 paul_p          maybe just 10cm !
20:25 paul_p          the referee asked for the video it seems. or is someone injured ?
20:25 paul_p          no, someone injured. back to game.
20:25 paul_p          this time yes : 5points
20:25 paul_p          for NZ
20:26 si              there you go, only 30 seconds lag :-)
20:26 paul_p          2 more
20:27 paul_p          9-22
20:27 paul_p          NZers running very very fast today...
20:28 paul_p          3 for France
20:42 chris           its a pretty exciting game, its even more excitement trying to stop kahu reenacting every kick at goal
20:43 paul_p          hi chris !
21:05 chris           best game of the year i think
21:06 chris           both teams trying to score tries
21:07 paul_p          try !
21:07 paul_p          NZ++ today
21:07 paul_p          really a GREAT game !
21:07 paul_p          but too tired, i'm going to bed now. Have a good sunday chris, the victory will probably be yours ;-)
21:09 chris           :) sleep well