Time Nick Message 21:36 nelsonf test again 21:35 nelsonf test, using trillian freeware 20:04 nelsonf_ exit 19:51 nelsonf thanks very much chris! have fun in the sun with your son 19:49 nelsonf Is the From address by default the KohaAdminEmailAddress in System preferences of the GUI? 19:49 chris good luck 19:49 chris ok time to take my son out to play in the sun 19:49 chris just as long as someone gets them bouncing bounces is about the worst thing :) 19:47 nelsonf our circulation is very limited, so sending all bounces to both orgs would not be the worst thing 19:47 chris hmm not sure if koha can handle that just yet 19:47 nelsonf i.e. need for multiple From addresses 19:46 nelsonf so, the From address might best be set up according to the org for a specific patron 19:46 chris right 19:46 nelsonf we have multiple organizations on this single Koha installation 19:45 nelsonf another conceptual question... 19:44 chris there is no reason for the koha box to be able to accept mail 19:43 chris as long as you have the from address of the emails be a valid address (so that bounces can go to it) 19:43 chris but only be able to send out 19:43 chris nope, what i would do is make it set up to not accept incoming connections 19:42 nelsonf ie is the Koha installation more susceptible to hackers if we have a mailer running? 19:41 nelsonf what about additional security concerns if we start running outgoing email? 19:40 nelsonf to look for a step by step documentation on how to install postfix or exim4 19:40 nelsonf so one way to skin this cat would be 19:39 chris the test would be, can you send a mail from it to something like a gmail account, if so, then koha will have no problems 19:39 nelsonf most excellent 19:39 chris then that should be fine 19:39 nelsonf yes 19:39 chris is the koha box connected to the internet? 19:38 nelsonf or does an ISP need to be involved? 19:38 nelsonf run nightly. Will the e-mails be able to go directly from our Koha/OpenSUSE box to the recipients, 19:37 nelsonf I understand from reading the Koha documentation that these cronjobs 19:37 chris (i think thats the file name, something like that) 19:37 chris take a look at misc/cronjobs/crontab.example 19:36 chris you need to set up some cron jobs 19:33 nelsonf or are there additional steps? 19:33 nelsonf once the mailer is set up, is this all that is needed for Koha to be able to send out those notifications? 19:33 nelsonf question about the big picture 19:33 nelsonf we're not live yet, but actively testing 19:32 nelsonf I've hesitated to configure the mailer, don't want to mess up the koha installation 19:32 chris yep sure looks like no mailer set up 19:31 nelsonf -bash: mailx: command not found 19:31 nelsonf I tried to run the mailx command you mentioned, and received an error 19:30 nelsonf I see var/log/exim/main.log 19:30 chris it probably isnt either, you will need to install one of them 19:28 nelsonf Let me look for exim4 now, using WinSCP 19:28 nelsonf The other day I think I determined that postfix is not installed, because no postfix folders 19:26 chris to see what happened to the message 19:26 chris or /var/log/exim4/mainlog if you are running exim4 19:25 chris you can then look in /var/log at the mail.log file (if you are running postfix) 19:25 chris *nod* 19:23 nelsonf I'll try this from the command line using PuTTY, right? 19:23 chris so the computer will need to have a connection to the internet 19:22 chris and it will try to send email, if you get it, all good 19:22 chris then hit ctrl-d 19:22 chris type some message 19:22 chris mailx -s "test email" your@email.address 19:21 chris you can test it by running 19:21 chris well the machine needs to be able to send emails succesfully 19:21 nelsonf do we need an isp to allow for outgoing emails? 19:20 nelsonf this sort of thing is way out of my league, but I'm willing to make an attempt to get it going 19:19 chris postfix is certainly one option, or you could use exim4 ... whatever you are comfortable with 19:19 chris well you will need some kind of mta running 19:18 nelsonf We're using OpenSUSE and I believe I need to get postfix running? 19:18 nelsonf I'm trying to get the e-mail functionality going re circulation / books due and overdue 19:17 nelsonf Hi Chris 19:15 chris hi nelsonf 19:10 chris i see that that the fixed tarball is there, so it looks promising 19:10 chris i wonder if hdl has been given back access to download.koha.org yet 18:54 chris cool 18:52 brendan Just going through and reading the proposal form Collin now 18:40 chris *nod* 18:40 Ropuch But getting isbn from addbiblio is a bit hard to me 18:39 Ropuch Next step is uploading cover images during cataloguing 18:39 Ropuch It have other limitationa atm; only jpg files, but this can be done easily 18:38 chris :) 18:38 Ropuch My no-perl-jutsu has improved a lot today ;> 18:37 chris well done 18:37 chris it's a very very good start 18:37 chris *nod* 18:37 chris_n2 nice tutorial 18:37 Ropuch But it's too much thinking for today 18:37 chris and then the next extension would be to make that be able to be a url 18:37 chris_n2 Ropuch: I'd suggest adding line numbers to your code excerpts 18:37 Ropuch I was considering this 18:37 chris i think one change would be to make the path to the images be a variable too 18:36 Ropuch It has been bothering me for some time 18:34 chris ohh a right up, thats neat :) 18:34 Ropuch I'm more than sure some steps are unnecessary 18:33 Ropuch http://bagno.be/localcovers.html 18:33 Ropuch Now I'm looking for someone who can point what can be done better ;> 18:33 chris ohhh well done :) 18:33 Ropuch I've just managed to get local covers and Amazon/Google ones working at the same time 18:31 Ropuch Hi chris [; 18:30 chris im just really happy someone is crazy enough to want to do QA :) 18:30 chris colins proposal looks pretty good 17:43 * chris_n2 digs out from under a pile of email 14:25 Ropuch Good afternoon 09:37 chris cool 09:37 fredericd Ok. I will test this way, by copying HEAD .po files. Thanks. 09:36 chris and the .po files are in git 09:36 chris thats what a sample directory looks like 09:36 pastebot "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "22:35 /var/lib/pootle $ ls -l" (8 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/30 09:34 fredericd a git clone? 09:34 chris its just the .po files 09:34 chris its pretty big 09:34 fredericd I would like to take a look and get the picture 09:33 fredericd could you send me your /var/lib/pootle files? 09:33 chris and 3.6 could be moose 09:33 fredericd ok. 09:33 chris then we are on the way 09:32 chris but if we can get db abstraction and tt in 09:32 fredericd it needs fundings... 09:32 fredericd system preference one level parameters reach it limits and slow down new functionnalities developments 09:32 chris yep, but it is way too much work to get moose into 3.4 09:32 fredericd If moose were at disposal in 3.4, and an application-level cache, it would be possible to simplify a lot how koha deal with its various configurations files/parameters 09:26 chris and work towards the bigger one 09:26 chris i think if we aimed for catalyst or moose, we wouldnt get there, but if we pick small targets 09:25 fredericd or fastcgi: it is recommanded by Catalyst framework, even if mod_perl is supported 09:25 chris so we would have to make sure it was safe first 09:24 chris we pick modules to use a framework on ... moose is too slow to use without mod_perl2 09:24 chris but if we get db abstraction in there, and then tt 09:24 chris yep 09:23 fredericd yes I understand Koha has huge code base which can't be changed at once 09:23 fredericd And Moose integration would ease draticaly code readibility and reusability... 09:22 chris we can add catalyst in after, the reason not to do it first, as that any one of those other things can be done stand alone, and incrementally 09:22 fredericd Everything is already done, tested, and documented 09:21 fredericd Something else I was thinking about reading your RM proposal: template::toolkit, DB abstraction, caching => why not trying to use Catalyst framework? 09:21 chris yes that would be a great thing to do 09:20 fredericd I mean: how zebra deals with no-latin alphabet, db text translation, etc. 09:19 fredericd could be a separated task... 09:19 fredericd I will have to deal with Arabic installations. Do you think it is the moment to improve Koha translability and multilingual support? 09:18 chris and then copy /var/lib/pootle 09:18 chris you just have to apt-get install pootle 09:18 chris the nice thing with pootle is there is no db 09:18 chris potentially, or i could give the person ssh access to my machine, whatever they prefered 09:17 fredericd It would have to be shifted on new translation manager server? 09:17 fredericd The Pootle machinery is on your server? 09:17 fredericd Yes, I can imagine (fun part). 09:16 chris with the work with template::toolkit it should make translation easier 09:16 chris it is quite fun, you get to talk to people all around the world 09:14 chris setting up users, etc 09:14 chris most of that is answering emails 09:13 chris i spent usually 8 or so hours a week on it 09:12 fredericd (reading roles for 3.4 wiki page) 09:12 fredericd Does translation manager represent a lot of work? 09:10 chris thank you fredericd 09:08 fredericd chris: Just read your 3.4 targets as RM: very impressive and valuable! 06:56 chris sleep well 06:56 brendan ZZZZZzzzzzzzz! 06:56 brendan maybe I'll catch you sometime later 06:56 brendan excellent and enjoy 06:56 chris and tomorrow kahurangi and i are going to watch the soccer 06:55 brendan Yes that's right 06:55 chris pretty good, long weekend, labour day on monday 06:55 brendan how's you weekend going? 06:55 brendan recover some sleep 06:54 brendan yeah it was fun -- take me a day or two to but it all together 06:51 chris glad to hear that apart from the crazy airline dramas things went well 06:49 brendan :) 06:49 chris heya brendan, get some sleep dude :) 06:27 chris hi Ropuch 06:19 Ropuch Morning, #koha 04:57 chris good luck :) 04:57 Mehwish OK Thanks a lot.. I am trying now. 04:55 chris there should be on that tells you how to upgrade 04:54 Mehwish Shall I download new tarball 3.04 and follow all the installation steps that are after this step from my installation guide.. 04:53 chris as it has been fixed now 04:53 Mehwish OK but plz tell me a few things.. 04:53 chris (the link is at the bottom of the page) 04:52 chris and upgrade to that 04:52 chris 3.0.4 04:52 chris http://koha-fr.org/content/diffusion-koha-version-304 04:52 chris you can grab that file and apply the patch locally, or you can get 04:52 chris so you have a couple of choices 04:51 chris http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2009-August/019916.html 04:51 Mehwish OK 04:50 chris right, ok, i will have a look and see if i can find the answer 04:50 Mehwish but the problem is at its place.. 04:50 Mehwish first I was getting error then I got this message "with text Looks Good" 04:49 Mehwish yesterday someone told me to change few things in this file.. I mean in ParserDetails.ini 04:48 Mehwish i got this message.. 04:48 Mehwish Koha wants something like: XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x81fe220) You have: XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x82091e8) Looks good. 04:47 Mehwish ok i have seen the file.. 04:47 chris if you do ./sax_parser_print.pl what does it say? 04:46 chris there is a file sax_parser_print.pl 04:46 chris ok, if you look in the tarball you explanded, in the misc directory 04:45 chris cool 04:45 Mehwish it is 3.00.02 04:45 Mehwish yes I am really a new one to Koha 04:45 chris (3.2.0 hasnt been released yet0 04:45 chris 3.0.2 ? 04:45 Mehwish 3.2 04:44 chris what version of koha is it? 04:44 Mehwish this is the error.. 04:44 Mehwish Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92. 04:43 Mehwish but when i enter all fields for that and press the button i get error.. 04:43 Mehwish I am redirected to add item page 04:43 Mehwish when I enter Biblio record and hit the save button 04:42 Mehwish thanks for reply 04:42 chris what is the problem? 04:41 Mehwish can any one help me to solve my problem regarding Koha? I am new to Koha and Linux.. 04:29 Mehwish hello all.. 04:25 Mehwish I have problem in adding Item after I save Biblio.. Can anybody help me?? 04:21 Mehwish Is thee any one who can solve my problem? 04:15 Mehwish I am new to Linux and Koha 04:15 Mehwish can anybody help me to solve that I am hange since months.. 04:15 Mehwish I have a problem with my Koha Installation 04:14 Mehwish Hi 04:00 chris hi Mehwish 00:32 rhcl_home Yea, would be cool. 00:31 chris ohh koha.ils that would be sweet 00:28 chris yep 00:27 rhcl_home Yea, but the genie got out of the bottle. 00:27 chris which was a pita 00:27 chris cool, for a while here they tried to contain it 00:26 rhcl_home Oh no. Not sure they ever did actually. No, it's fairly common and everybody just regards it as a variant of seasonal flu. 00:25 chris are they still quarantining for H1N1 over there? 00:23 rhcl_home for sure 00:23 chris = cranky kid 00:23 chris fever, sore throat and a rash 00:21 chris yeah, ever since pencillin was discovered it became easily treatable 00:21 rhcl_home really? Probably better drugs to treat it. 00:21 chris turns out its pretty darn harmless these days 00:20 chris yeah exactly 00:20 rhcl_home Gee, I haven't heard of anybody having that in years. 00:20 chris but apparently thats indeed what he had 00:20 chris my son actually had scarlet fever .. can you believe that? i couldnt, i didnt think it was even around anymore 00:19 chris crappy 00:19 rhcl_home My tech assistant called in today and said his two sons have tentatively been diagnosed with H1N1. 00:18 chris no worries 00:18 nengard sorry so frustrated - still sick and little things bug me now 00:17 rhcl_home good good 00:17 nengard thanks guys - that worked 00:17 rhcl_home I have a homebrew firewall running Smoothwall that won't pick up my ISP's DNS for some reason--I have to manually enter it. 00:15 chris nameserver 208.67.220.220 00:15 chris sorry 00:14 chris and nameserver 00:14 chris nameserver 208.67.222.222 00:14 rhcl_home well, you need at least one line like I posted above for DNS 00:14 chris just replace the 2 ip ones 00:14 nengard do i just delete the 4 and replace it with the 2 IPs? 00:14 nengard and 2 for IPs 00:13 nengard one for search 00:13 nengard one for domain 00:13 nengard right now the file has 4 lines 00:13 chris all it does is tell it what to use as a nameserver 00:13 chris nope, 00:13 nengard okay - i'll try that then 00:13 nengard safe - meaning it won't screw up my connections at all 00:13 rhcl_home Nothing to editing the file and changing it to something else. 00:13 nengard wonder if i restart - which i haven't done yet today - if it will find them 00:12 chris opendns is safe 00:12 nengard but my mac doesn't know what my name server is either 00:12 nengard scared to use something like opendns cause i don't want to mess with settings on my machine now that i have everything up and running 00:12 nengard and telling bri to check on his machine 00:12 nengard no!!! - reading what rhc1 is saying 00:11 chris any luck nengard ? 00:02 rhcl_home If you use a shell tool and >cat /etc/resolv.conf, do you see one or more lines like that? 00:01 rhcl_home You can have multiple nameservers in this file, one after another in the format above 00:01 rhcl_home nameserver 150.199.1.29 00:01 rhcl_home your /etc/resolv.conf file should contain a line something like this: 00:00 rhcl_home No, that's the address you put in /etc/resolv.conf