Time Nick Message 01:21 pianohacker hi, #koha 01:21 brendan heya pianohacker 01:21 pianohacker hi brendan 01:21 pianohacker how are you? 01:22 brendan ah hanging in there 01:22 brendan how's everything with you -- hand getting better ? 01:23 pianohacker i'm all right. hand's still broken, but is healing slowly 01:24 pianohacker how's work treating you? 01:29 brendan well I'm still in the office -- so I guess that's good or bad 01:29 pianohacker heh 01:29 brendan I'd say fun :) 01:29 pianohacker what are you working on? 01:30 brendan some data 01:30 brendan just had a load of items import to the wrong branch :) 01:30 brendan so I had to correct that... 01:31 brendan how about you? 01:31 pianohacker school :) calculus study 01:31 brendan nice -- always loved Math 01:31 pianohacker and now I've been called away to do some housework 01:32 pianohacker (it's definitely preferable to history) 01:32 pianohacker brb 02:30 brendan cya in a bit #koha 02:30 pianohacker cya 03:11 Amit hi chris, richard 03:11 Amit good morning #koha 03:20 pianohacker hi amit 03:21 Amit hi pianohacker 03:21 Amit @wounder Bangalore, India 03:21 munin` Amit: downloading the Perl source 03:22 pianohacker @wunder bangalore, india 03:22 munin` pianohacker: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 20.0�C (5:30 AM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. 03:22 pianohacker wow, you're up early 03:33 Amit @wunder New Delhi 03:33 munin` Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 29.0�C (8:00 AM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). 03:34 Amit @wunder Dehradun, India 03:34 munin` Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 26.0�C (8:30 AM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa. 03:36 pianohacker good night, #koha 05:15 brendan heya Amit 05:40 kf morning 07:02 hdl_laptop hi 07:02 nicomo hi 07:15 Rmd hi 07:28 kf hi hdl, nicomo and RMD 07:28 nicomo hi kf 07:53 nahuel hi all 07:53 nahuel chris, really bad news this morning 07:53 nahuel another earthquake :( 08:47 |Lupin| good morning everybody 09:04 hala hi 09:04 hala Q :pleasre 09:04 hala please 09:05 hala how we import koha 09:05 hala upload record to koha 09:05 hala ?? 09:07 hdl_laptop hala: tools/stage marc import 09:07 hdl_laptop or bulkmarcimport on command line 09:17 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: I'm wondering how to determine the number of available items for a biblionumer from within a Perl script... couldn't find a function that returns that. Is there one ? 09:17 hdl_laptop what to you mean number of "available" items 09:18 hdl_laptop SELECT count(*) from items where biblio=? 09:18 hdl_laptop SELECT count(*) from items where biblionumber=? 09:18 hdl_laptop or 09:19 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: is this equivalent to counting the number of occurences of the 995 unimarc field ? 09:19 hdl_laptop SELECT count(*) from items where biblionumber=? and items.onloan IS NOT NULL and items.notforloan=0 and items.wthdrawn=0 and items.itemlost=0 ? 09:19 hdl_laptop |Lupin|: Yes 09:20 hdl_laptop (in theory) 09:20 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: for us the notion of "available" item is a bit irrelevant, because every iem is alwys available... 09:21 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: ok, thanks 09:29 kf guten Tag |Lupin| 09:37 hala after tools/stage marc import ? 09:38 hala chose uploID FILE BUT WHEN FINSH UPLODING THERE'S NO RECORD OR ANY ITEM 09:38 |Lupin| hallo kf 09:39 kf hala: after uploading there should be a link to manage staged imports, there you can add your file to the catalog and finish import 09:40 hala where can i find it - link to manage staged imports - 09:41 hala am sry if am bothering you ;) 09:42 hala did you mean V 09:42 hala sry 09:42 hala Manage staged MARC records. 09:56 kf hala: yes 09:56 kf hala: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/tools/stage-marc-records-for-import 09:57 kf hala: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/tools/manage-staged-marc-records 10:05 hala i have in my library 1171 books 10:06 hala i must to upload 1 by 1 ?? 10:06 |Lupin| pls everybody 10:06 |Lupin| is it possible from within Koha to search a biblio whose x$y field contains z ? 10:06 hala and from whiv cataloge can i get a record 10:06 hala ? 10:07 hala loc or britsh library or what ? 10:08 hala and how can i delet a file after import it ? 10:09 ricardo Hi everyone. Is anyone "awake"? :) 10:10 |Lupin| ricardo: not yet, but working hard to become so... :-) 10:10 |Lupin| (buddhist joke) 10:10 ricardo |Lupin|: LOL! 10:11 ricardo |Lupin|: Hi Sébastien :) I'm having a little problem with a Koha git installation (HEAD of the 3.0.x branch)... 10:11 ricardo Advanced searches by "keyword" not working. Author and Title searches work fine. 10:11 ricardo UNIMARC and NoZebra installation 10:12 |Lupin| ricardo: hmm... 10:12 kf hala: you can do copy cataloging via z39.50 and you can load a files with many MARC records via stages marc import or bulk import 10:12 |Lupin| ricardo: it may not help, but I switched to Zebra mode because it seems this gets much more testing and dev effort... 10:13 kf hala: but you need your records to be valid MARC21 / UNIMARC (dpeending on your installation) and items information in 952 10:13 ricardo |Lupin|: agreed and understood 10:13 |Lupin| ricardo: apart from that, I assme you built your index etc. ? 10:14 ricardo |Lupin|: Yup. I ran rebuild_nozebra.pl Thanks :) 10:14 hala from where can i get a user ID and password and how ? 10:14 ricardo |Lupin|: The problem remains, though... 10:14 ricardo |Lupin|: I think I'll send a message to [Koha-Devel] and see if someone "pops" up there 10:16 |Lupin| ricardo: perhaps something to do with the rebuilding of frameworkcodes or whatever ? there is a script called batchRebuild something one is advised to run when one modifies cataloguing frameworks... 10:17 hdl_laptop ricardo: as far as BibLibre is concerned, we donot setup any nozebra zny longer 10:18 hdl_laptop have you tried adding kw index ? 10:18 ricardo hdl_laptop: Ouch... Thanks for the information (about not setting any NoZebra any longer). 10:18 kf hala: to add more patrons and staff users you have to define patron categories in adminstration and add patrons after that. for staff category you can set permissions 10:19 ricardo hdl_laptop: I thought that a keyword search searched in every field... Where should I add a "kw" index? Is it in the "NoZebraIndexes" system preference? 10:19 hdl_laptop let me look 10 sec 10:19 ricardo hdl_laptop: Thanks :) 10:22 hala i cant find the method to download a Loc catalog ? 10:22 hdl_laptop lines 1860 - 1866 10:23 hdl_laptop indexes are searched as exact terms. 10:23 hdl_laptop ^ti$ 10:23 ricardo hdl_laptop: Of C4/Search.pm, right? 10:23 hdl_laptop you might want to change that to ^ti 10:23 hdl_laptop yes 10:24 hdl_laptop hala: search Z3950 on the manual 10:24 ricardo hdl_laptop: Change "^ti$" to "^ti"? Why? All other indexes are ending up in "$" 10:25 ricardo (which I assume is the "end of line" for a regular expression) 10:28 hala did you mean from koha manual 10:31 |Lupin| hala: yes 10:34 hala then ?? 10:40 kf hala: sorry hala, meeting now. take a look at the manual, look for z39.50 clients and download. 10:41 hala ok . thxx alot , dnt wry 10:41 hala catch u later 10:42 hala catch you later 10:50 hala can u help me plz 10:50 hala i need to download the z39.50 client 10:51 hala may you help me in how to download it 11:00 kf hala: I meant search in the manual for z39.50 :) you dont have to download additonal software or programs. depending on your choices during install it should just work. start in cataloging for z39.50-download of titles. - lunch time now :) 11:06 |Lupin| lunch time here, too 11:46 |Lupin| hi Jane, jdavidb 11:46 jdavidb Hi, |Lupin|! :) 11:46 |Lupin| jdavidb: how are you doing ? 11:46 jdavidb I'll let you know later, after I'm awake. I was up way too late last night! 11:48 jwagner Morning |Lupin| 11:51 Amit hi lupin, hdl, jwagner 11:52 |Lupin| hey Amit 11:52 |Lupin| jdavidb: I see. YOur day may be a bit difficult... good luck ! 11:54 jdavidb thanks, Lupin. Yeah, this one's gonna be rough. 11:55 |Lupin| jdavidb: btw, are you from the United Stats ? I hought you and Jane are from UK... ? 11:56 jdavidb Nope, we're both in Bethesda, MD, in the US. 11:56 |Lupin| jdavidb: MD ? 11:56 jdavidb g'mornin, nengard. How's the new tattoo? Looks cool as heck, but I bet that stung a bit. 11:57 nengard stung more than a bit 11:57 nengard hehe 11:57 jdavidb Lupin: Maryland..a state in the northeastern part of the US. 11:57 nengard and it's a bit sore this am - but other than that great 11:57 |Lupin| jdavidb: ah, okay 11:57 |Lupin| jdavidb: 11:57 |Lupin| jdavidb: thanks 11:57 |Lupin| hello Nicole 11:58 jdavidb you bet. We're just a loud yell from the national capital, where our office is. Easy, few-minutes drive to be in Washington DC. 11:59 |Lupin| jdavidb: ah ok, now things start to become a bit more precise to me :) 11:59 jdavidb nengard. Tats on..erm..fluffier parts..don't hurt so bad, I'm told, but those bony spots and tendons and things on the ankle--no fat to pad it, so it hurts more. 11:59 jwagner jdavidb, I beg to differ. There is no such thing as an easy, few-minute drive in this area unless you can remove every other driver from the roads :-( 12:00 nengard jdavidb - yeah - hubby had his on his arm and he didn't even flinch - but the problem with fluffier parts is that they sag in old age :) 12:00 jdavidb jwagner: Easy for me; I was a passenger in your vehicle. Sit down, hold on, and pray. Easy. Mighta been hard for *you...* 12:01 |Lupin| pray ? :) 12:01 jwagner jdavidb, your consideration for other people's viewpoints is as always breathtaking :-) 12:02 jwagner |Lupin|, with traffic around here, prayer is sometimes the best option. Even if you're agnostic. 12:02 jdavidb Lupin: Riding with jwagner is fun. She gets along well with all the rest of the traffic, and makes it look easy. 12:02 nahuel gmcharlt, ping 12:02 gmcharlt nahuel: pong 12:02 |Lupin| jwagner: I see. I thought this had to do with the way you drive and found it strange to read such a thing from jdavidb :) 12:02 nahuel gmcharlt, yes ! you're here ! 12:02 hdl_laptop hi gmcharlt 12:02 nahuel gmcharlt, did you forget my 3281 patch ? 12:02 nahuel :) 12:02 gmcharlt not, just a bot ;) 12:03 jwagner Well, he MIGHT have been referring to that. I prefer to think otherwise :-) 12:03 nahuel oh damned ! 12:03 nahuel :p 12:03 jdavidb jwagner is not a bad driver, at all. Nor even "Aggressive." I prefer the term, "enthusiastic." I never felt in danger or anything, but it was amazing how fast things were flying by... 12:04 |Lupin| jwagner: let's say it's just me and my tendency to interprete things in a negative way :/ 12:04 jwagner Harrumph. 12:05 jwagner jdavidb, I felt the same way when you were driving us through the Dallas freeways! 12:05 jdavidb (Not like in a Boston taxi, where I laid down in the back seat and told the driver to let me know when we were there. 12:06 jdavidb jwagner: I'm sure. Dallas is *fast*. DC traffic seems to be a lot more tightly packed, but not quite so fast. 12:06 kf jwagner: jane, just looked at the new sys prefs I got yesterday - will there be an option to hide messaging in opac? I thought I saw one somewhere 12:07 gmcharlt nahuel: looking at now 12:07 nahuel ok cool! 12:07 kf ok, I thought I saw a patch from you for this, but not sure now :) 12:07 nahuel gmcharlt, I sent it in june 12:07 jwagner kf, do you mean the new messaging system for borrower notes? Or hiding the messaging tab (where borrowers can set notice prefs?) 12:07 kf second 12:08 gmcharlt nahuel: I'm lokoing at your resend, I mean 12:08 jwagner I sent a patch (see Bug 3535) on August 17 to hide the messaging tab -- not sure if it's made it into head yet. 12:08 nahuel :) 12:08 munin` 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3535 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Add syspref to control display of My Messaging tab in OPAC 12:08 nahuel gmcharlt, the resent is rebased on new head / 3.0.x 12:09 kf jwagner: thx :) good to know its done, can wait and perhaps hide it with css 12:10 jwagner kf, I just uploaded the patch file itself to the bug report, if you want to download and try installing. Not that I know how to do that myself :-( 12:11 kf kf: have order to avoid customization as far as possible :) but I think css will work, some display:none 12:16 |Lupin| pls 12:17 |Lupin| is it a usual thing o report problems by e-mails to the webmaster in Koha ? 12:17 kf ok, perhaps its a little more difficult 12:17 |Lupin| If so, I'm wondering which function to call to achieve this... 12:32 ricardo Back from lunch 12:33 ricardo |Lupin|: There's a System Preference with the E-mail Address of the Koha Admin for that installation... Is that what you want? 12:34 |Lupin| ricardo: ell... partially. I am more interested in how these e-mails can be sent from within a script 12:35 ricardo |Lupin|: Hmmm... Let me see 12:36 ricardo |Lupin|: The name of the preference is "KohaAdminEmailAddress" 12:36 greenmang0 @wunder mumbai 12:37 munin` greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (5:40 PM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 12:37 * ricardo is looking for code Koha samples that use System Preferences 12:39 jdavidb if (C4::Context->preference{'sysprefname'} eq "teststring") { do something } #like that? 12:39 ricardo jdavidb: Yeah... It will be something like that :) 12:39 jdavidb Grepping C4 for "preference" will give you more examples than you could possibly want, I think. 12:42 ricardo |Lupin|: done 12:43 ricardo http://koha.pastebin.com/d625311bd 12:43 |Lupin| ricardo: cool ! thanks a lot for your help !! 12:44 ricardo |Lupin|: You're welcome :) 12:45 ricardo jdavidb: Thanks for your tip as well... One not... Around 'sysprefname', it should be "(" - parenthesis - and NOT "{" - curly bracket ... At least, in my setup. 12:50 * jdavidb greps C4. 12:50 jdavidb Sure 'nuf, you're right, ricardo. :) 12:50 ricardo jdavidb: :) 12:53 ricardo Other development question: shouldn't unconditional "warn" statements in Koha code, appear in the "ErrorLog"s ( /var/log/koha-error_log and /var/log/koha-opac-error_log )? 12:55 |Lupin| ricardo: don't they ? 12:56 ricardo |Lupin|: They are not appearing (since 8-Jun-2009)... At least in my setup... I may be doing something "incredibly" wrong, of course 12:58 |Lupin| ricardo: you may want to check your apache configuration to see whether they are not logged in another file... 12:58 |Lupin| ricardo: e.g. the general error log file rather than the KOha specific one 12:59 ricardo |Lupin|: Right... That's what I'm reading right now, but it seems OK... My eyes may be deceiving me, though 13:01 ricardo Hmm... I wonder if I might have some problems with permissions.... For now, I'll also activate TransferLog and see if the that file (koha-access_log) is created 13:02 * ricardo is restarting Apache ... 13:06 ricardo Right... 13:06 ricardo This DOES seem a permission problems... 13:06 ricardo Log files are being owned by User "root" / Group "root" and only with 644 permissions 13:07 jdavidb I've had the error file suddenly switch back to the apache default ones a couple of times, without changes to the apache config. Still haven't figured out why, but restarting apache clears it up at once. 13:08 ricardo jdavidb: Interesting. Thanks for the info... I think that, in my case, the problem is due to having git set up some directories as "subdirectories" of the "/root" directory... But I'll compare the permissions with one "nomal" Koha setup 13:09 ricardo Yep... These files should be owned by User and Group "koha" 13:11 slef ricardo: do you have logrotate installed? If so, check /etc/logrotate.d and see if it is rotating your koha logfiles 13:12 ricardo slef: Hi MJ! :) 13:12 ricardo slef: Thanks... I may check that (although I believe it's not rotating those logfiles) 13:12 jwagner Question on hold slips -- has anyone seen situations where the barcode doesn't print on the slip? I'm getting reports and screen shots where occasionally the barcode just doesn't print. It does on other slips. The item has a barcode, and the template file has the barcode field. Why would it fail to print on some items? 13:14 ricardo jwagner: Sorry. I don't have ANY experience with hold slips / barcodes :( 13:15 owen jwagner: Just a wild guess, but could it be an overflow problem? Not enough width, and the printer/browser doesn't manage? 13:18 chris_n g'morning 13:19 ricardo Hi chris! :) 13:19 jwagner owen, not sure about that -- it 13:19 jwagner s 13:20 jwagner try that again. It's not a lengthy record, and the rest of the slip prints (title, author, etc.) It's always just the barcode that's missing. 13:24 owen Hi CGI805, collum 13:24 |Lupin| pls 13:24 collum hi owen 13:24 |Lupin| how should I print a message in a perl script so that it appears n the web browser ? just print it on stdout ? 13:24 |Lupin| (hi owen) 13:26 ricardo Do other people here have to add a "LogLevel warn" line to their Apache configuration files, so they see are able to see unconditional warnings in their Log Files? Or is the "DebugLevel" set to "2", in the Koha System Preferences, enough for that? (I'm guessing that LogLevel is still necessary) 13:29 Amit happy weekend to all 13:29 slef ricardo: LogLevel is for apache only I think; DebugLevel and KOHA_DEBUG are for Koha 13:29 Amit hi slef 13:29 slef Amit: hi - a bit early for weekending? 13:30 Amit yes 2oct gandhi jayanti 13:30 Amit so national holiday 13:30 slef ah local holiday 13:30 ricardo slef: Right... But where do I see the "warn"ings in Koha? Is it in the web pages of Koha (they are not appearing there, for me)? 13:39 jwagner Following up on my vanishing barcode -- if you can manage to refresh the print window for the hold slip, the barcode frequently will appear on the second try. Or if you cancel that print and then do it again, the barcode appears. I just don't know why it's not getting to that screen the first time. 13:43 slef ricardo: koha warnings go to the error_log files 13:45 owen jwagner: have you tried doing a view-source on the print window to confirm the data is always coming through? 13:46 ricardo slef: OK... So, I should also put "SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG 2" in the "koha-httpd.conf" file, alongside the "DebugLevel" = 2 in the Koha System Preferences? 13:48 jwagner owen, I managed to get a view source (difficult with it wanting to send directly to printer). The data does not come through in the source code when the barcode doesn't appear. I've just opened a bug report (Bug 3686) with examples of view source. 13:48 munin` 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3686 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Hold slips sometimes don't print barcode 13:48 jwagner It seems to be a browser problem of some kind, since a refresh does fix it. I don't know how to zero in on it, though. 13:49 slef ricardo: it depends what you are trying to debug 13:50 ricardo slef: If I add a "warn" statement in a subroutine of C4/Search.pm that is called... where will that message appear? 13:51 |Lupin| is it possible to run a Koha CGI script from the command-line _and_ log in ? I know how to give it the other parameters in the QUERY_STRING, but how about login and password ? 13:52 |Lupin| ricardo: printed to stderr of your script, so normally it should end up in a log file. 13:52 slef ricardo: all over error_log I think 13:53 slef |Lupin|: only with the usual sort of web app test tools... you send it login and password, then capture the cookie and send that with further requests 13:54 |Lupin| slef: you can't send everything at once by using the right environment variables and so on ? 13:54 ricardo slef: OK... It's getting logged in /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log 13:54 slef |Lupin|: I think login is always a distinct step but I don't remember this stuff without my notes. 13:54 slef ricardo: ouch! 13:55 |Lupin| slef: it probably means the direcives in the KOha vhost are not taken into account for some reasons 13:55 ricardo |Lupin|: *nod* 13:56 slef check with "apache2ctl -S" 13:56 slef which should print apache's understanding of the config 13:56 ricardo slef: Right... Output of that looks good 13:57 ricardo I won't worry with that for now... What I wanted was to *find* the warnings to debug a specific problem :) 13:57 slef have you told apache to reload its config (either init.d/apache2 reload or apache2ctl graceful) since changing the config last? 13:57 slef ok, nm 13:57 ricardo slef: I did apache2 *restart* ("restart" should also "reload", I think) 13:58 ricardo slef: Maybe LogRotate is at fault here, like you suggested. Oh well... 14:32 nengard morning boss (aka brendan) :) hehe 14:35 wizzyrea hehe oh that's nice to see 14:35 wizzyrea and 'mornin nicole 14:36 brendan morning nengard 14:37 brendan morning wizzyrea 14:37 jwagner question for libraries with parent-child records. For notices, (a) does the notice go to the child, or to the guarantor record? and (b) if to the child and the child does not have an email address, does it go to the guarantor's email? 14:55 owen Argh.... "Open" lists are such a pain in the butt. 14:55 owen Can we just do away with them please? 14:56 ricardo owen: "lists" in the "virtual shelves" sense? 14:56 owen Yes. They're referred to as lists in 3.x 15:00 owen I appreciate the wiki-like spirit of an open list, but without some kind of revision history it's too easy to delete stuff forever. 15:02 owen And meanwhile, we've got a night mare of divergent permissions with regard to when someone can create a list or add something to a list. 15:02 owen Should the "add to list" feature always be present because one could always create an open list? 15:03 ricardo owen: I guess so (but I don't use "lists") 15:04 ricardo owen: You *might* check beforehand if there's already a "open list" / "public list" created and only display a "Add to List" if there's one 15:06 ricardo OK... 15:07 ricardo This particular NoZebra setup looks a bit... err... weird: 15:10 ricardo There's only one row in the "nozebra" table that has "biblionumbers" field filled in, with a VERY LONG text... It ends like so: 15:10 ricardo ... 374,lessysteme-1;376,lesyndrome-1;384,palmaresle-1;386,networldin-1;395,lesgestion-1; 15:12 ricardo Should those words appear in the "biblionumbers" field? 15:20 owen Does anyone know if it's possible to combine some kind of variable output with mysqldump to generate a file with the date as part of the filename? 15:21 ricardo owen: I usually create a small Perl script for that :) 15:23 collum owen: there is a shell script at http://sourceforge.net/projects/automysqlbackup/files/ that does it. 15:52 |Lupin| bye everybody 15:52 |Lupin| take care 16:11 nengard anyone on with a bit of xml knowledge? I'm trying to convert XHTML to Docbook - and this site: http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/Html2DocBook says to use the stylesheet - but how do I apply the stylesheet? 16:14 nicomo nengard: http://infomotions.com/musings/getting-started/getting-started.html#id2522295 might be of help 16:14 nengard thanks nicomo 16:14 nengard off to read it 16:18 CGI976 hello 16:19 CGI976 i am a koha user 16:21 ricardo CGI976: Hi. You may change your nickname by typing /nick <desired nickname> 17:13 nengard nicomo that worked - i figured it out - not sure how we're going to get the images over - but I've made a start 17:13 nicomo cool 17:13 nicomo that's a first step, we'll see 17:23 ricardo hdl_laptop: Are you still there? 17:25 ricardo Is anyone here familiar with the "rtrn" operator in the "Search.pm" file? Should it be called in "keyword" searches? It is currently, and I'm not sure why 17:25 hdl_laptop ricardo: yes 17:26 hdl_laptop rtrn operator is for right truncation 17:27 hdl_laptop Maybe you have queryautotruncate set to 1 17:27 hdl_laptop ricardo: yes <= I am familiar with rtrn 17:27 ricardo hdl_laptop: Right... The thing is: keyword searches for ONE keyword are returning zero results... (although they exist)... 17:27 ricardo hdl_laptop: But keyword searches for TWO keywords return the right results 17:28 ricardo Example: 17:28 ricardo http://koha30x.kohademo.info/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=vidigal 17:28 ricardo VS 17:28 ricardo http://koha30x.kohademo.info/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=lu%C3%ADs+vidigal 17:30 ricardo hdl_laptop: Do you see what I mean? 17:30 hdl_laptop http://koha30x.kohademo.info/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Anything+vidigal 17:30 ricardo hdl_laptop: Yes... I don't know if a keyword search is, by default, an "AND" or an "OR" search... 17:31 ricardo ... but if you search for only ONE term, it should display the results 17:31 ricardo right? 17:32 hdl_laptop yes. 17:33 ricardo hdl_laptop: So, that's what's puzzling me :( 17:33 hdl_laptop two words search should be and AND 17:33 ricardo hdl_laptop: OK... That would be *another* problem then 17:33 hdl_laptop Why ? 17:33 hdl_laptop if you are looking for Luis Vidigal 17:34 hdl_laptop you are not looking for Luis || Vidigal 17:34 ricardo hdl_laptop: The problem that I'm presenting now is that a simple search for "vidigal" should return some results... and it is NOT returning 17:34 hdl_laptop ok. 17:37 hdl_laptop ricardo: I believe it has to do with lines 1019 17:37 hdl_laptop in Search.pm 17:38 |Lupin| hi again 17:38 ricardo hdl_laptop: "# Field-weighted queries already have indexes set" ? 17:38 hdl_laptop no 17:38 ricardo |Lupin|: Hi Sébastien :) 17:38 |Lupin| ricardo: hi Ricardo :/ 17:38 hdl_laptop my $cclq; 17:38 hdl_laptop my $cclindexes = getIndexes(); 17:38 hdl_laptop if( $query !~ /\s*ccl=/ ){ 17:38 hdl_laptop for my $index (@$cclindexes){ 17:38 hdl_laptop if($query =~ /($index)(,?\w)*:/){ 17:39 hdl_laptop which version are you on ? 17:40 ricardo hdl_laptop: git version for 3.0.x branch 17:41 ricardo http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=C4/Search.pm;h=809bc87ea4108ab81339b69ce69b89668e96e6d6;hb=3.0.x 17:43 chris morning 17:43 nicomo morning chris 17:43 chris nengard: use herold 17:44 brendan morning chris 17:44 chris http://www.michael-a-fuchs.de/projects/dbdoclet/en/html2db.html 17:45 |Lupin| hi chris 17:45 nengard chris couldn't figure it out - but I did it without it :) 17:48 hdl_laptop ricardo: yes 1019 is what i pasted 17:48 ricardo chris: Hi! I already received an updated Portuguese translation file from the SAPO Summerbits student (Marta Grachat). She'll send me a still more updated version in the next few days. When that happens, should I submit it to "git" for the Koha 3.0.x branch, so it gets accepted for Koha 3.0.4? 17:49 chris cool nengard 17:49 hdl_laptop ricardo you had better pass through upload on Pootle 17:49 ricardo hdl_laptop: regarding Pootle => OK 17:49 hdl_laptop ricardo: it is high time for me to have a break. 17:49 hdl_laptop Will investiguate on your pb 17:50 chris ricardo: yes, through pootle or me, (who will put it through pootle) or i will overwrite it from pootle next time i update the git repo 17:50 ricardo hdl_laptop: OK, thanks:) I may also try do debug this myself, but I do need some hints to do it...please? :) 17:51 ricardo chris: OK... I'll upload it through Pootle then. Thanks 17:53 chris awesome 17:53 chris grrrr 17:53 chris this is annoying 17:53 ricardo chris: what? 17:53 chris http://koha.org/news/hiwassee-college-library-now-live-on-liblime-enterprise-koha 17:53 chris stop advertising your fork on koha.org !!! 17:54 |Lupin| please 17:54 |Lupin| I'm wondering 17:54 |Lupin| in templates 17:54 |Lupin| is it possible to write something between the TMPL_ELSE and the --> ? 17:54 ricardo |Lupin|: No wonder... Templates are a wonderful thing ;-) (sorry... I'll stop now) 17:55 chris like what |Lupin| ? 17:55 |Lupin| e.g. <!-- TMPL_ELSE variable--> to make clear to with TMPL_IF the TMPL_ELSE is related... ? 17:56 chris no 17:56 |Lupin| ricardo: yeah I agree they offer a very nice functionality and a rather nice way to separate the code from the visual presentation. But I find them rather difficult to write 17:56 chris the way you do that is with good indentation 17:57 ricardo hdl_laptop: Still there? Other simple comparison (it may help you helping me, while debugging): 17:57 |Lupin| chris: ah yes, why not. I was a bit reluctant to indent, because I recalled lynx doing funny things with indented code... 17:57 ricardo hdl_laptop: http://koha30x.kohademo.info/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=vidigal 17:57 ricardo hdl_laptop: (that one gives 0 results) 17:58 wizzyrea it's too bad you can't make comments on the announcements 17:58 ricardo hdl_laptop: Vs 17:58 ricardo hdl_laptop: http://koha30x.kohademo.info/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=au&q=vidigal 17:58 ricardo hdl_laptop: (that one gives 2 results) 18:02 chris wizzyrea: its too bad we cant do much of anything on that website 18:03 wizzyrea grr 18:04 |Lupin| why is this so ? 18:04 chris because liblime control it 18:04 |Lupin| because of plone or because nobody has the rights ? 18:04 |Lupin| chris: right 18:04 |Lupin| and nobody can hep ? 18:04 |Lupin| nengard: perhaps ? 18:04 chris she doesnt work for liblime 18:04 chris she had the good sense to leave 18:05 |Lupin| ah... 18:07 nengard what might i know? 18:09 |Lupin| nengard: I didn't mean you might "know" something 18:10 ricardo nengard: I think that only you know what you might know ;-) 18:10 wizzyrea |Lupin| b/c nobody has the rights to Plone :P 18:10 |Lupin| nengard: actually, I didn't know you ere nolonger working for liblime, so I thought yo may have the rights on the koha.org site 18:10 wizzyrea hehe 18:11 |Lupin| wizzyrea: k 18:14 nengard |Lupin| I work for ByWater and Biblibre now - starting today :) but even if I didn't - I only had/have rights to the documentation area 18:14 ricardo nengard: Right... Today is the 1st October. I wish you a great 1st day! :) 18:14 ricardo nengard: Are you doing all the work remotely now ("telecommuting")? 18:15 brendan happy october 1st :) 18:15 nengard ricardo thanks :) it's going well - lots of documentation research done - trying to fidn a way to make the documentation more accessible and translatable 18:15 nengard yes - i telecommute 18:15 wizzyrea yes, tomorrow is my anniversary! I <3 October 1-2! 18:15 nengard would be hard to work in france and california at the same time :) 18:15 nengard congrats wizzyrea 18:15 wizzyrea ty ty 18:16 ricardo nengard: LOL! Obviously, eheh... But I was wondering if you were working physically in "ByWater" and remotely for "BibLibre" 18:16 nengard hehe - nope ;) I'm at home for both - home in PA - I love my house and my area and don't want to move - and hubby loves his job - and he can't telecommute 18:17 nengard tonight i get to teach future librarians at Rutgers about open source software :) 18:18 ricardo nengard: Cool :) Now, I'm very curious... Only answer if you wish: what kind of contract do you have with them (NOT asking about salary / payment, just about the kind of work relation)? 18:18 nengard I'm doing a little bit of everything and anything really 18:18 nengard kind of what i like 18:18 nengard first priority is to fix the documentation so that biblibre and translate it easily 18:18 nengard i'll also still do writing and teaching of open source 18:18 nengard and i'll help with migrations 18:18 ricardo nengard: Hmmm... But are you working as a contractor? (I was wondering more about "legal terms") 18:19 nengard and programming (as I learn more) 18:19 nengard ricardo - ah - i work for bywater in the US and they handle the contract part with biblibre 18:20 ricardo nengard: OK. That answers half of my questions :) The 2nd one would be: have you been hired as an employee by "ByWater" or is it some other kind of arrangement? 18:20 brendan ricardo -- main goal was to keep nengard in the community as much as possible so We (ByWater) and biblibre got together and made it possible :) 18:21 ricardo brendan: Yes, and that's great! Hats off to all of you (ByWater, BibLibre ... and Nicole, obviously!) :) 18:22 chris ok time to get ready for work 18:22 ricardo chris: OK Chris. Take care! :) 18:23 |Lupin| nengard: it's very cool to have ou in the community, I'm happy you stay around althoughyou are not at liblime anylonger. 18:35 ricardo Time to go home. Take care people! :) 18:50 chris |Lupin|: its because she isnt liblime she can stay around :) 18:53 chris and with that, time to catch my bus cyas in 40 mins or so 18:53 * chris hopes its not the whiplash bus today 19:28 * owen thanks wizzyrea for reminding him of his anniversary by mentioning hers 19:31 wizzyrea owen: you're welcome 19:31 wizzyrea (when is it?) 19:31 owen Sunday! 19:31 wizzyrea !! 19:31 wizzyrea whew! at least you'll have time to plan! 19:32 wizzyrea (if you do that sort of thing) 19:34 richard hi 19:44 chris mine is the 10th 19:44 chris 10/10 19:44 chris we picked that day, cos it works the same for american's and nzers :) 19:45 |Lupin| k, enough perl hacking for today 19:45 |Lupin| see you later guys ! 19:46 wizzyrea october_weddings++ 19:46 chris cya |Lupin| 19:46 |Lupin| see you chris, have a nice day 19:47 owen chris: I'd be happy to receive anniversary congratulations on April 10th *and* Oct. 4th :) 19:47 chris :-) 19:48 chris way i see it, its just twice as much chance to get in trouble for forgetting 19:48 chris :) 19:48 wizzyrea lol 19:55 chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRGo-Zp8_3A 19:55 chris song for a sunny wellington day 19:56 chris with some nice nz scenery 20:04 Jo morning all 20:05 chris hi Jo 20:07 wizzyrea oh that is cherful 20:07 wizzyrea cheerful 22:02 pianohacker Good afternoon, #koha 22:02 chris heya pianohacker 22:02 pianohacker hi chris 22:03 pianohacker how's it going? 22:04 chris pretty good, how bout urself? 22:04 pianohacker good, catching up in school 22:05 chris cool ;) 22:05 brendan afternoon pianohacker 22:05 pianohacker hi brendan 22:05 chris http://bywatersolutions.com/wordpress/?p=53 <-- yay 22:06 brendan what's the homework for today :) 22:06 pianohacker ahh, a physics assignment 22:07 brendan cool physics was my favorite 22:07 pianohacker with online homeschool, my schedule is largely self-determined, as long as I get everything in 22:08 brendan that's a different model than I had 22:08 pianohacker it's kind of fun to figure out mechanics of everyday stuff (normal forces, friction and whatnot) 22:08 brendan I had a scary physics teacher 22:08 brendan he wouldn't let me into his class unless I was clean shaved... 22:08 brendan he was an old Navy guy 22:11 pianohacker haha 22:11 pianohacker and I thought I was suffering with my physics teacher's monotonous voice 22:22 pianohacker has anyone else read the design documents for barrelfish? 22:22 chris not i 22:23 pianohacker http://www.barrelfish.org/ - very interesting thoughts on multiprocessor os development 22:24 * chris bookmarks 22:25 brendan why the name barrelfish 22:25 pianohacker also readable, which is a nice change after trying to puzzle through things like j-pake 22:25 pianohacker no idea 22:25 pianohacker it's microsoft-related, the name doesn't have to make sense 22:25 brendan ha 22:26 brendan a bunch of smart looking pale people :) 22:27 pianohacker notice that they took one of the attractive women and put her in the front row 22:27 brendan yup 22:28 rhcl She's the only woman! Where else to put her? 22:28 chris she shold be off at the windows 7 party 22:28 pianohacker heh. where all of the male geeks visiting the site will see her, of course :P 22:29 brendan did google have their wave party yet ? 22:29 chris (worst advertising campaign ever the windows 7 youtube videos) 22:29 pianohacker looks like someone else peeking over shoulders at the back; maybe she didn't make the cut 22:29 pianohacker chris: a mediocre advertising campaign from microsoft? how shocking! 22:48 pianohacker Time to get back to school, cya #koha 23:04 chris_n^2 @later tell pianohacker interesting article on quantum physics and entanglement with relation to quantum computing http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/47638/title/Entanglement_in_the_macroworld 23:04 munin` chris_n^2: The operation succeeded. 23:07 brendan cya later #koha 23:30 chris_n^2 does anyone know of a good FOSS GPS package? 23:32 * chris_n^2 discovers GPS::NMEA on cpan