Time Nick Message 00:05 ricardo BBL 02:18 chris_n^2 back 02:19 * chris_n^2 really hates winder's addiction to reboot after software installtions 02:21 chris heh 02:37 chris_n^2 g'night #koha 06:48 chris hi nicomo 06:48 nicomo hi chris 06:49 nicomo was your week-end ok? 06:51 brendan hello all 06:51 brendan getting ready to pack and head back to the west coast :) 06:52 nicomo hi brendan 06:52 brendan heya nicomo 06:54 chris hi brendan 06:54 chris nicomo: good thanks, how is yours going? 06:55 nicomo well: yesterday at friends who have a new house (self-built, those guys are nuts) 06:55 brendan heya chris 06:55 nicomo now sunday morning, I'm the only one up so far 06:56 nicomo my 5 years old likes to sleep, which is a blessing :-) 06:57 chris :) 06:59 brendan ok -- good night 06:59 nicomo bye brendan 07:00 brendan night nicomo and chris 07:00 brendan koha++ 07:00 nicomo eh chris any dates for the KohaCon yet? 07:01 chris nope 07:01 chris november 07:01 chris but no actual days 07:01 chris at this stage im aiming for 3 days conference 4 days hackfest 07:01 chris i figure to fly this far, you want at least a week :) 07:02 chris (November because the students are on holiday so we can use facilities at one of the universities) 07:03 nicomo ++ to november 07:03 nicomo and yes, I think a week is a good length of time 07:03 nicomo arriving a couple days before to take in the jet lag too 07:03 chris also 3 days for conference, so we can have one stream 07:04 * chris hates when 2 sessions he wants to go to are on at the same time 07:04 nicomo yes, and the community is not sooo big that we want multiple tracks 07:04 chris *nod* 07:04 nicomo it's summer holidays in nov.? 07:05 chris yes, end of academic year 07:06 chris and cricket season 07:06 chris :) 07:06 nicomo can't we have it both ways: end of academic year, but some cricket still going on? 07:06 nicomo I'd love to see a cricket game 07:06 chris yep, there will be cricket, cricket will jsut be starting 07:07 nicomo ok, I had misunderstood, thought it was the end of both the academic year and the cricket season 07:07 nicomo so that's perfect 07:08 nicomo do you have a team you especially support? 07:08 chris pakistan are touring nz in november and december 07:08 chris so there may even be a new zealand vs pakistan game 07:08 chris wellington are my team 07:10 chris http://www.blackcaps.co.nz/schedule/blackcaps-host-pakistan/65/series.aspx 07:10 nicomo wow: 4 days 07:10 nicomo a test lasts 4 days 07:11 nicomo which means if you attend, say, day 3, you might not know who won? 07:13 chris 5 days 07:13 chris thats right 07:13 chris (the warmup will only be 4 days) 07:14 chris or maybe even only 3 07:14 chris but a test is 5, and most often day 3 you have some idea who might win ... but cant be sure 07:15 nicomo ok, so if you really want to follow the game you have to basically take a week off from work :-) 07:19 chris usually 3 days, thursday friday and monday 07:19 * chris makes sure he has enough leave :) 07:26 chris i will probably try to find a 20/20 game to take you to 07:26 chris they only last around 4 hours 07:28 nicomo ok, daughter waking up 07:28 nicomo got ot go 07:28 nicomo seeya 15:17 jhaig I have recently found koha and am trying to find my way round it. Unfortunately, someone has already started putting data from the library into an Access database (before I had found koha) and so I am wondering about copying the data across. I have found the bulkmarcimport.pl script, but is there some information (for someone who doesn't understand the marc system) about how the data for this should be formatted? If I can get a csv file out of Access, I should 19:58 richard hi 19:59 chris morning richard 19:59 richard hi chris 20:00 ebegin hi guys 20:00 chris hiya ebegin 20:01 richard hi ebegin 20:03 ebegin do you have any preference between bugzilla or trac? 20:03 chris i like bugzilla 20:04 chris but trac is nice also, specially how you can integrate it with a vcs 20:04 ebegin I think that bugzilla has some plugin for integration with git, isn't it? 20:05 chris probably does 20:05 chris ill have a look into it 20:10 cait hi 20:10 chris hiya cait 20:10 cait hi chris - good morning to you 20:14 ebegin Hey cait 20:14 cait chris: are xslt-translations in opac and staff? 20:15 chris definitely opac, not sure about staff 20:15 cait kf: seems they are also in staff 20:15 cait kf = chris... 20:15 chris cool 20:16 cait not sure if the files are actually used in staff or if its just in both po-files 20:16 chris i think if its in there, it should be being used 20:17 cait that would be really cool 20:17 chris (only if you have checked out 3.0.x branch from git) 20:17 chris soon it will be in master (3.2.x) too 20:18 cait I only looked at pootle 20:23 * cait switching laptops 20:32 chris wb cait_laptop 20:32 cait_laptop :) 21:42 cait_laptop my, was totally confused why my changes did not show up in opac. forgot to swith to english templates... :( 21:51 chris_n^2 g'evening koha 21:51 chris hiya chris_n^2 21:54 chris_n^2 wow, weather says 9 deg C for Wednesday night here 21:54 chris heading into winter 21:54 chris_n^2 nice to see some cooler weather 21:54 * chris_n^2 must sharpen his axe and chainsaw 21:55 chris firewood? 21:56 chris_n^2 yup, we heat with wood 21:56 chris_n^2 it makes wonderful heat 21:56 chris_n^2 and great cooking too (during the winter only :-S) 21:59 chris :) 21:59 * chris sees another patch from cait_laptop 22:00 cait_laptop its my second attempt on bug 3380 22:00 munin` 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3380 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de, NEW, Serial enumeration / chronology should display in opac holds interface. 22:00 chris *nod* 22:01 chris looks good to me 22:01 * chris_n^2 greets cait_laptop 22:02 cait_laptop one I understood the code it was not so difficult 22:02 cait_laptop hi chris_n^2 22:02 chris_n^2 @quote get #koha 31 22:02 munin` chris_n^2: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 11:31 PM, September 02, 2009) 22:02 chris_n^2 lol 22:03 cait_laptop :) 22:04 cait_laptop I remember this one 22:09 cait_laptop chris: german translation with pootle is a real problem for me, because I cant correct typos and wrong terms when search does not work :( can I bribe you to spend some time on the strange search problem? could send chocolate... 22:10 chris i dont think i know enough python to hack on pootle to figure out what it is doing wrong 22:10 chris but i can look again 22:10 chris what i recommend is downloading the po file, searching/editing it and uploading it again 22:10 chris (kbabel or poedit are good offline ones) 22:11 chris until i can figure out what is going on 22:12 cait_laptop when uploading: merge or replace the existing file? 22:13 chris replace is fine 22:13 cait_laptop ok, will download files at work tomorrow 22:13 chris :) 22:13 cait_laptop just dont wanted to keep others from working on the files 22:15 chris *nod* if you want you can send the file to me, ill merge it 22:15 chris then no danger 22:15 cait_laptop I will try to do the changes fast 22:18 cait_laptop perhaps send a mail to the mailinglist too, so that I can replace the file myself - hope there will be some time for this tomorrow. my work days are a little crazy lately :) 22:18 chris :) mail to the list is a good idea 22:24 pianohacker good morning, chris 22:24 cait_laptop good morning pianohacker 22:24 pianohacker hi cait 22:25 pianohacker how are you? 22:25 chris hi pianohacker 22:25 pianohacker how are you, chris? 22:25 chris good thanks, hows the hand healing? 22:26 pianohacker alright 22:26 pianohacker slowly 22:43 * cait_laptop wonders how to make labels from <optgroup> translatable 22:44 pianohacker cait_laptop: will probably involve a dip into the internals of the translator script 22:45 cait_laptop pianohacker: I hope not, searching for other optgroups now 22:45 chris cool another vendor has put up their public repo :) 22:46 pianohacker There's a specific line in some of the files that controls which attributes are translated 22:46 cait_laptop this could be too difficult for me 22:47 pianohacker mdhafen? 22:47 cait_laptop but the second one that I found is also not translated 22:47 chris mason james 22:47 pianohacker ahh 22:48 mason beep 22:48 pianohacker hallo mason 22:48 pianohacker what is this SCIS feature, btw? looks interesting 22:48 mason yeah, im slowly moving all the offensive-comments from my code 22:48 chris heh 22:49 * richard noticed an awful lot of bad language 22:49 mason http://www2.curriculum.edu.au/scis/home.html 22:49 pianohacker I've been tempted more than once when dealing with things like fines 22:50 mason most high-school in NZ and australia use the SCIS service to get their MARC records , for their school collections 22:51 mason its a web-driven service :/ , so the koha-scis code is doing a lot of webpage-parsing 22:51 pianohacker ehh 22:51 pianohacker Why don't they just make them Z3950 accessible? 22:52 mason they ' Curriculum' have a Z39 server in testing 22:53 mason but when i wrote the code, they didnt ... 22:53 mason so it can hopefully be replaced with a z39 fetch 22:53 cait_laptop good night :) 22:53 pianohacker good night 22:54 pianohacker yeah; as hoary as z3950 is, webpage parsing is difficult and fragile 22:55 mason hell yeah :/ 23:57 pianohacker better log off for today, bye all