Time  Nick         Message
23:54 chris        hmmmmm
23:34 chris        yep
23:33 richard      it's a pretty wizzy thing
23:32 chris        i knew it was big in india, but wow
23:32 chris        wow
23:31 richard      http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=koha%20library&cmpt=geo
23:30 brendan      off to investigate
23:30 chris        that would certainly do it
23:30 brendan      ok cool -- looks they are missing that and some other things too...  :)
23:29 chris        it looks like it is there in head
23:28 brendan      ahh... I guess I can update on of my test ones and see if that is gone
23:28 brendan      do you have a current branch of HEAD ?
23:27 chris        that would do it
23:27 chris        ahhh
23:27 brendan      <!-- /TMPL_IF -->
23:27 brendan      <th>Reserve Starts on Date</th>
23:27 brendan      <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="reserve_in_future" -->
23:27 brendan      chris -- this section is missing from the 52 server....
23:14 chris        that would rule
23:13 chris        sweet
23:13 chris_n^2    "Explore library trends across the <your-country-goes-here>."
23:12 chris        trending searches ala trending topics on twitter
23:12 chris        that would be very cool
23:12 chris        hmmm it could
23:12 * chris_n^2  wonders if koha could divine certain trends among library patrons based on frequency of search terms
23:11 chris        yeah peaked early this year
23:11 chris_n^2    chris: http://www.google.org/flutrends/intl/en_nz/
22:35 chris        cool, good luck
22:34 chris_n^2    chris: GM looks cool; I'll give it a spin... tnx
22:31 brendan      didn't hit the next button
22:31 chris        weird
22:31 brendan      it is on both
22:31 brendan      no sorry there
22:31 brendan      not on the 52 server
22:31 brendan      I've got that on the 40 server
22:31 brendan      DHTMLcalendar_dateformat  => C4::Dates->DHTMLcalendar(),
22:31 chris        seems like it should work .. weird
22:30 chris        <th>Hold Starts on Date</th>
22:30 chris        <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="reserve_in_future" -->
22:30 chris        those are the 2 things it checks
22:30 chris        hmm it all looks ok
22:27 chris        +       reserve_in_future         => 1
22:27 chris        +    $template->param(
22:27 chris        +    ) {
22:27 chris        +    C4::Context->preference( 'OPACAllowHoldDateInFuture' )
22:27 chris        +    C4::Context->preference( 'AllowHoldDateInFuture' ) &&
22:27 chris        +if (
22:26 chris        august 11 was the last change to that
22:26 brendan      quick look though
22:26 brendan      that all looked similar
22:26 brendan      yes
22:26 chris        opac/opac-reserve.pl is where it should show right?
22:25 chris        lemme do some quick forensics
22:25 chris        right
22:25 brendan      vs. 40
22:25 brendan      yup 52
22:24 chris        hmm is possible a bug has crept in
22:24 brendan      they are a little bit newer -- I believe 52
22:24 chris        same version?
22:24 brendan      just for the hell of it
22:24 brendan      yup
22:23 chris        if it was mod_perl it would, but its running as cgi, so every instance is a new one
22:23 chris        that wont do anything
22:23 brendan      was thinking that I would do a restart of Apache - just for the fun of it :)
22:22 brendan      weird -- works on my server...  looking at someone elses
22:19 chris        might be a bug then
22:18 brendan      nope
22:17 brendan      XLSTDetailsDisplay = off
22:17 brendan      but chris that was my same thought
22:16 brendan      was looking into that -- but haven't found one yet
22:16 chris        is there another OPAC holds preference overriding it?
22:15 brendan      got an interesting one -- OPACAllowHoldDateInFuture and AllowHoldDateInFuture set to on -- but only appearing on the Staff side not the OPAC
22:14 brendan      heya guys
22:14 chris        heya brendan
22:14 pianohacker  hi brendan
22:14 brendan      ahhhhh....  good afternoon #koha
21:53 chris_n^2    chris: looks interesting
21:50 wizzyrea     maybe i'm missing something
21:50 wizzyrea     no, still doesn't work
21:50 wizzyrea     hrm
21:45 chris        plan stan
21:45 wizzyrea     going to try on my dev install
21:45 wizzyrea     since... we haven't had an update since... june?
21:45 wizzyrea     the patches for the server side may not be there
21:45 wizzyrea     of course
21:45 wizzyrea     well... I can upload my .koc, but it doesn't seem to process correctly
21:43 pianohacker  whuh
21:43 chris        sup wizzyrea ?
21:43 wizzyrea     blarg.
21:38 chris        :)
21:38 pianohacker  wouldn't be hard
21:38 chris        i havent, but some of the guys at work have, and say it was much better than imagemagick
21:37 pianohacker  chris: that looks pleasant to use. have you used it?
21:33 chris        http://www.graphicsmagick.org/perl.html have you looked at this?
21:32 chris        chris_n: you around?
21:30 chris        http://markmail.org/message/7tp6rfmdzacya6jr  he did some cool stuff with Koha at Uni of Buffalo
21:29 * chris      is happy to see Christopher Brown-Syed back
21:25 chris        hmm the reserves work looks interesting
21:19 wizzyrea     snarky.. yes, a little
21:19 chris        hehe
21:19 wizzyrea     criminy, i'm going to be quiet now
21:18 wizzyrea     biblios integration
21:18 gmcharlt     good night hdl_laptop
21:18 chris        night hdl_laptop
21:18 hdl_laptop   good night folks
21:17 chris        written by chris catalfo
21:17 hdl_laptop   http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master
21:17 chris        yep
21:17 wizzyrea     the trademark biblios
21:17 chris        yeah
21:17 wizzyrea     the biblios with the cross thingie in front
21:17 hdl_laptop   And I think it is a good idea, but one has to refactor C4::Search deeply
21:16 chris        i thought he was just making a crack about biblios as it was a liblime thing
21:16 hdl_laptop   From what I read, ppl would like to search authorities before searching on biblios
21:16 chris        either way, its not waldo :-)
21:16 hdl_laptop   mmm... biblios donot improve research in koha
21:15 chris        or biblios integration with koha?
21:15 chris        biblios?
21:15 wizzyrea     so yea, it's "waldo's release" that has what everyone wants
21:15 wizzyrea     well, biblios is one of the waldo things
21:14 * chris      is catching up on the overnight mail
21:14 chris        is it just me, or was ben ide's reply to the authorities mail snarky?
21:13 gmcharlt     k
21:13 hdl_laptop   Repushing that
21:13 hdl_laptop   gmcharlt: I just realized that I had pushed a wrong branch this afternoon.
21:06 wizzyrea     paul_p++ for offline circ addon
20:54 chris        thanks
20:54 richard      wb chris
20:50 chris        back
20:41 richard      hi jwagner
20:41 jwagner      hi richard
20:39 richard      hi
20:37 jwagner      It looks different, but that may not be an indication.  Syntax works there.  I'll have to talk to someone at the library, I think.  Thanks.
20:36 gmcharlt     jwagner: dunno - it's http://aqua.acld.lib.fl.us if you want to poke at it
20:36 jwagner      Maybe this site has things set up funky....
20:35 jwagner      gmcharlt, that's not working -- it just goes into the main AB search screen.  What version is yours at?
20:33 gmcharlt     pfft - it's just a matter of knowing where to look
20:33 wizzyrea     ooh, gmcharlt ++ for arcane knowledge of Aquabrowser
20:32 gmcharlt     jwagner: /?q= does it on my local library's Aquabrowser installation
20:25 pianohacker  jwagner: thanks
20:18 jwagner      For the OPAC More Searches section, does anyone know the syntax for sending a search into an AquaBrowser catalog?  I've tried the usual suspects, like /?query= but AB doesn't seem to recognize them.
20:15 jwagner      pianohacker, my sympathies on the fingers!
19:59 chris        right time for my bus
19:59 chris        http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6698251.html
19:56 chris        :)
19:52 chris_n      now there is an example of how open source is not always what one might imagine
19:51 * chris_n    burns his copy of the ISO32000 PDF standard
19:20 wizzyrea     HA
19:18 pianohacker  (probably nicer than we deserve :P)
19:18 pianohacker  you're too nice
19:18 pianohacker  wizzyrea: aw, we wouldn't hurt you
19:17 pianohacker  chris: ah, that's good to know
19:17 chris        hehe
19:17 pianohacker  I think if someone had tried that on me with my mom around, they would have had to take _them_ to the hospital :)
19:16 * wizzyrea   backs slowly away from Pianohacker. Please don't hurt me....
19:15 chris        they do heal remarkably fast though
19:15 pianohacker  urgh, that sounds bad
19:14 chris        pianohacker: the annoying thing was when i broke my little finger, my teammate thought it was just dislocated, and tried to pop it back in ...that hurt ,.... i dont recommend it :)
19:13 pianohacker  I can fix that >:)
19:13 pianohacker  hehe
19:13 wizzyrea     nothing broken ^.^
19:13 wizzyrea     doing well. :)
19:12 pianohacker  how are you?
19:12 pianohacker  they'll heal
19:11 wizzyrea     :( bummer!
19:11 pianohacker  yes, bike accident
19:11 wizzyrea     how did I miss that?!
19:11 pianohacker  so you understand
19:11 wizzyrea     ph, you broke fingers!!??!
19:11 pianohacker  ah
19:11 pianohacker  alright, typing is getting easier
19:11 chris        (me has broken fingers on his left hand before, playing cricket ... annoying)
19:10 chris        pianohacker: hows the fingers?
19:10 chris        Ropuch: you still about?
19:10 pianohacker  good morning
19:10 chris        morning
17:36 |Lupin|      good evening everybody
17:35 |Lupin|      anyway... end of working day here
17:35 * |Lupin|    finds this "bad style" surprisign given that some other parts of Koha are so cleanly written
17:34 Colin        Lupin: Yes I think theres a few similar return size + array subs.
17:33 pianohacker  sounds good
17:31 |Lupin|      Colin: yeah I agree. I don't know why this size was returned and find it rather weird... perhaps this fnction should just be removed the calls to it replaced by generic authorised values calls. Perhaps I'll talk abut that with Galen and see whether he wants me to submit a cleanup pach
17:29 pianohacker  and if you're simply iterating over the array, you can use foreach
17:29 Colin        not dirst but first
17:28 Colin        Lupin: The count variable is totally redundant scalar @results gives you the size of the array for the dirst part of the return
17:28 |Lupin|      pianohacker: the function is IMO rather poorly written anyway: the sql query returns all the authorised values, and it's the function that filters out those of category CCODE
17:27 |Lupin|      pianohacker: ah...
17:26 pianohacker  I think ccodes are normally dealt with through the generic authorized values functions
17:25 * |Lupin|    finds it strange nobody has noticed this before...
17:24 jdavidb      I would call that a bug, myself.  you want the count to be correct, but normally, arrays are filled from zero.  You'd need to make sure all of GetCcodes() consumers knew better, if it did anything different.
17:24 |Lupin|      it that a bug or a feature ?
17:24 |Lupin|      jdavidb: yeah exactly
17:23 |Lupin|      so that result[0] is empty
17:23 jdavidb      oh-hoh.  So the zeroth element is empty.
17:23 |Lupin|      and then he row is stored in result[counter]
17:23 |Lupin|      it's incremented _first_
17:23 |Lupin|      and then for each new value
17:23 |Lupin|      it is initialized to 0
17:23 |Lupin|      the GetCcode funciton stores its relsuts in an array using a counter
17:22 |Lupin|      yeah
17:21 |Lupin|      indeed it seems there is an undef in the list... can't understand why...
17:19 jdavidb      looks right, near as I can gell.  Dumping @ccodes should tell you much.
17:17 |Lupin|      this is correct... isn't it ?
17:17 |Lupin|      my ($nbccodes, @ccodes) = GetCcodes();
17:17 |Lupin|      jdavidb: sounds ok, thank you !
17:16 pianohacker  yup
17:15 jdavidb      use Data::Dumper; warn Dumper(%hash);
17:14 jdavidb      Not horrible.  I use constructs like this a lot:
17:14 |Lupin|      jdavidb: thanks a lot, too. it's ok if it's not too pretty... as long as it's not ugly either
17:13 |Lupin|      pianohacker: any insight about what may cause this ?
17:13 |Lupin|      pianohacker: and the cmp operatior invoked to do the sorting complains that certain strings are not initialized.
17:12 |Lupin|      pianohacker: I'm calling the GetCcodes funciton which returns a list of references on hashes. Then I compute a new list by sorting this one based on the lib field
17:11 jdavidb      pianohacker beat me to it.  Dumper works like a charm.  Not exactly "pretty," but it works.
17:11 |Lupin|      pianohacker: ah, thanks a lot. Will give that a try.
17:11 pianohacker  the Data::Dumper module
17:10 |Lupin|      pianohacker: do you perhaps know a tool that would pretty-print a Perl structure, for using to debug a program ?
17:07 pianohacker  hi there
17:06 |Lupin|      hello pianohacker
16:58 Ropuch       s/roiuter/router
16:58 Ropuch       Geez, mu new roiuter is pissing me off'
16:57 |Lupin|      it's cmp I was looking for
16:57 Ropuch       I'm not sure, remebered that from Robert's Perl Tutorial
16:54 |Lupin|      Ropuch: does it also return -1 if the first is smaller than the second, etc. ?
16:53 Ropuch       If want compare strings
16:52 Ropuch       eq
16:49 |Lupin|      what's the name of the string comparison operaton to be used in, say, sort ?
16:49 |Lupin|      pls
16:47 Ropuch       I mean opac .po
16:46 Ropuch       chris: there's probably a typo in 3.x po: "Sujects" instead of "Subjects" imo
16:39 Ropuch       Hello
16:36 |Lupin|      hi again, everybody
15:52 wizzyrea     he's off playing at the winfield blues festival
15:45 * jdavidb    isn't good enough at impersonations to pull it off, or he'd try to pinch-hit.
15:44 wizzyrea     man, I miss joetho
15:30 * hdl_laptop will check that
15:30 hdl_laptop   It seems that git-daemon has a problem with  git push -f
15:29 gmcharlt     hdl_laptop: thanks
15:29 hdl_laptop   gmcharlt: updating branch master on koha-biblibre and git.biblibre.com/koha branch master with coderun
14:12 chris_n      paul_p++ #pointing out the ease of use native to git
13:44 hdl_laptop   droit pénal is legally
13:41 Ropuch       paul_p: i found: Auteur principal (droit p�nal) ;>
13:39 paul_p       Ropuch: it's main author ;-)
13:38 hdl_laptop   can you pastebin a formatted record ?
13:37 hdl_laptop   Have you received tests on ModItem.pl ?
13:37 erik         almost forgot good morning
13:36 erik         I have managed to add multiple $r subfields to my 952.  It's the same data just in the 952 twice.  Is this something I need to worry about?
13:35 hdl_laptop   But will try and send it tonight
13:35 hdl_laptop   I have to rebase on master first.
13:34 gmcharlt     hdl_laptop: sounds good - let me know if I can go ahead and pull into and push it into git.koha.org
13:33 hdl_laptop   But I think it can be exposed.
13:32 hdl_laptop   There still are some wip.
13:32 |Lupin|      paul_p: right, got a much clearer message now, thanks !
13:32 Ropuch       paul_p: Is Auteur principal the Main author or something related to crime?
13:32 hdl_laptop   I would like to propose to expose our CodeRunBase branch.
13:32 hdl_laptop   hi gmcharlt howdy ?
13:32 gmcharlt     hdl_laptop: pong
13:30 paul_p       1 is enough in most cases
13:30 paul_p       yep, but there is a bug in the Perl package, and you get an infinite loop when 2
13:30 hdl_laptop   so verbose that it endsup loooping
13:30 |Lupin|      paul_p: ah I thought the higher the value, the more verbose Koha is.
13:30 Colin        or the data passed to it
13:29 Colin        Lupin: Sometimes its because the template module can't make sense of the template
13:29 paul_p       oups, sorry... "set to something else (1 or 0)
13:28 paul_p       |Lupin|: mettre autre chose ;-)
13:28 |Lupin|      paul_p2: there are man similar messages about deep recursion in different Perl routines...
13:28 |Lupin|      paul_p2: | DebugLevel | 2     |
13:27 chris_n      you may also need to check your processes and kill the script that is hung
13:26 chris_n      |Lupin|: sounds like an endless loop
13:26 hdl_laptop   gmcharlt: around ?
13:24 hdl_laptop   Ropuch: I think you can safely skip thme
13:24 paul_p2      should be enough (to display the true error)
13:24 paul_p2      |Lupin|: set DebugLevel to 1 in systemprefs
13:23 |Lupin|      anyone has experience with that or an idea where it could come from ?
13:23 |Lupin|      Digit.pl: Deep recursion on subroutine "Carp::format_arg" at /usr/share/perl/5.10/Carp/Heavy.pm line 82.
13:23 Ropuch       So I should skip them for now?
13:23 |Lupin|      I'd need help with a Perl message
13:22 |Lupin|      pls developers
13:22 Ropuch       Oh, ok
13:19 hdl_laptop   We have to translate those into English
13:19 hdl_laptop   Ropuch: Those words are coming from UNIMARC.xsl
13:14 Ropuch       s/tems/terms
13:14 Ropuch       There are some french tems in new 3.x .po file on pootle, like Co-auteur, Auteur principal
13:00 chris_n      g'morning
11:55 jdavidb      Hi |Lupin|! :)
11:55 |Lupin|      hello jdavidb
10:31 chris        just catching up on mail
10:31 chris        nope
10:30 hdl_laptop   chris any problem ?
10:29 chris        hmm
09:39 snail        just to avoid confusion
09:38 snail        chris: seem to me that the Koha Foundation Forming Survey needs to say whether people or institutions or people on behalf of institutions are voting.
08:30 hdl_laptop   Thx chris
07:53 chris        hi hdl_laptop, i updated all the 3.0.x .po files
07:52 hdl_laptop   hi chris
07:19 |Lupin|      hi Ropuch & Amit
07:16 Amit         heya lupin
07:15 Ropuch       Hi |Lupin|
07:15 |Lupin|      hello
06:50 magnusenger  hi Amit
06:42 Ropuch       Hello Amit
06:39 Amit         hi ropuch, magusenger
06:24 magnusenger  good morning Ropuch et al
06:09 Ropuch       Morning
04:33 Amit         hi greenmang0
04:17 mason        aaah, that sounds interesting...
04:15 Amit         mason: i have done biblios.net
04:11 mason        its tricky and slow to debug, for me
04:10 mason        i am doing xsl and jquery stuff for the last week :/
04:08 mason        that is good to hear,  and great job with your koha workshops
04:03 Amit         mason: life is fine preparing for workshop
04:01 mason        the weather is starting to become sunny in NZ now
04:01 mason        ?
04:01 mason        things are good for you
04:00 Amit         hmm
03:59 mason        nearly finished...
03:59 mason        yeah, sorry  - still busy  :/
03:59 Amit         mason: after long time
03:58 Amit         heya mason
03:58 mason        and hello Amit!, long time no chat  my friend :)
03:58 mason        hi peoples,
03:57 pianohacker  good night
03:18 brendan      heya amit
03:10 richard      hi Amit
03:10 Amit         good morning #koha
03:10 Amit         hi chris, richard, brendan
01:45 pianohacker  hello
01:45 nathan1021   good day everyone
01:37 pianohacker  Thank goodness for right-handed dvorak
01:36 pianohacker  fell off bike
01:35 pianohacker  heh
01:33 * chris_n^2  thinks both piano and hacking requires use of all fingers
01:33 chris_n^2    ouch!
01:31 chris        how'd you do that?
01:31 chris        eeek
01:31 pianohacker  broke fingers on one hand, so will be contributing to chat slowly
01:29 chris        heya pianohacker
01:29 pianohacker  Hello all
01:26 chris_n^2    ahh.... Imager
01:19 * chris_n^2  consults w/google
01:16 chris_n^2    size mainly iirc
01:16 chris_n^2    unless there is another library I've missed
01:16 chris        yeah image magick has its own issues
01:16 chris_n^2    yup, that means if we are to have good quality images on patron cards we need Image Magic which was an issue for some previously
01:14 chris        bummer
01:14 chris_n^2    libgd stinks at resizing/resampling images
01:01 brendan      ha
01:01 chris        the NZ prime minister is gonna be on letterman
01:00 brendan      more code-athons (hack fests)
01:00 chris        so if you are bored on thursday
00:57 chris        http://www.itworld.com/open-source/78271/mentoring-open-source-communities-what-works-what-doesnt
00:57 brendan      excellent :)
00:57 chris        pretty good actually
00:56 brendan      how goes the day for you?
00:56 brendan      hey chris
00:56 chris        hiya brendan
00:56 brendan      good evening #koha