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21:52 chris ta si
21:36 chris ahh good thinking batman
21:36 chris_n I ended up having to use the md5 from the begin and end commits
21:35 chris noice
21:35 chris_n chris: got it
21:34 * chris_n wrestles git to the ground...
21:22 chris well a plain old email will work too ;)
21:21 chris ah right
21:21 chris_n works fine on my clones however
21:21 chris_n chris: I must have something messed up w/my repo config as git request-pull borks
21:14 pianohacker bye, david
21:14 schuster see you all tomorrow!
21:11 * chris_n has had a crash course in git over the past week
21:10 chris_n I'll try it out
21:10 chris_n then 'git branch --track branch_name start_point'
21:10 chris the request-pull is nice ... makes for a really nice email
21:10 chris cool
21:10 chris_n chris: I've been doing 'git remote -f -t branch remote_name remote_path' which tracks and forces fetch in one stroke
21:07 * chris_n looks
21:06 chris http://galencharlton.com/blog/?p=10#comments
21:06 chris_n what's that
21:06 chris_n ?
21:06 chris you know git has a cool trick for that too chris_n ?
21:06 Jo good stuff - I'm looking forward to this
21:06 chris_n I'll submit a pull request to patches@ later
21:05 chris_n http://git.foundations.edu/?p=koha.labels_recon;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/labels.recon
21:05 chris_n s/commit/commits/
21:05 gmcharlt chris_n: good enough for me
21:05 chris_n gmcharlt: how does 40 commit sound (down from 122)
21:05 pianohacker chris_n++
21:03 * chris_n finishes up the label creator re-write... ready to submit
21:02 chris heya Jo
21:02 Jo Morning
21:02 pianohacker oh noes
21:02 chris hehe
21:01 wizzyrea it's all a plot to get us to convert to wave
21:01 wizzyrea eya, it's just mail looks like.
20:59 pianohacker Hmm. GMail chat seems to be working through iGoogle, though mail itself isn't
20:52 rhcl icic
20:52 wizzyrea nekls
20:52 wizzyrea just our office
20:52 wizzyrea (most people in my office thought it was a relief
20:52 rhcl WE = your office/KS libraries?
20:52 wizzyrea and yea, we had a brief outage today
20:52 wizzyrea so email, calendars, docs, etc
20:52 wizzyrea we use it for all of the things they provide
20:48 rhcl http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-10323306-264.html
20:45 rhcl wizzy, to what extent are you on Google apps?
20:45 * chris_n wearily looks for the mistake among 100 commits squashed to 40 :-P
20:40 wizzyrea well yes, it does have it's benefits %^.^
20:37 chris yeah, i still love offlineimap tho :-)
20:34 wizzyrea but we're on google apps so...
20:34 wizzyrea nah, I'm actually receiving new messages
20:28 chris syncs all your mail locally
20:27 chris wizzyrea: offlineimap ftw
20:27 chris back
20:26 pianohacker Long live GMail
20:26 pianohacker Quiet, we're mourning the death of GMail
20:26 richard hi
20:13 pianohacker O_o
20:13 wizzyrea <.<
20:13 wizzyrea though, if you connect via imap it's technically fine >.>
20:13 wizzyrea gmail-- (lol)
20:10 chris_n gmail--
20:04 owen Gmail is down, so I'm going to go make sure my fallout shelter is stocked. See y'all in 75-100 years.
19:49 chris bb in 40 mins or so
19:48 * chris goes to catch his bus
19:48 chris my work here is done
19:48 chris ok, kahu is eating toast, atarau is back to sleep
19:47 chris :)
19:47 rhcl Plane ticket isn't much, see if they want to cover my bar bill.
19:43 jwagner And mine!
19:42 owen chris, ask if they want to sponsor my plane ticket!
19:41 rhcl looks like a great place to have an after-session get together
19:40 chris im gonna see if they want to sponsor a bit of kohacon :)
19:39 chris http://www.thelibrary.co.nz/
19:39 chris did i show you guys this
19:38 chris you'll never get that through customs :)
19:38 owen So KohaCon 2010 will be BYOB(acon)
19:38 chris hehe could do
19:37 rhcl But hangi is a method of cooking, right? So you dig a pit and fill it with bacon?
19:37 chris search wikipedia for hangi if that link fails :)
19:37 chris oh utf8 fail
19:36 chris http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C4%81ngi
19:36 chris hangi
19:36 rhcl So bacon will be the official food of KohaCon 2010?
19:35 rhcl Ah
19:35 chris AKA kohacon09
19:35 rhcl Texas Steak Conference?
19:35 chris that was a fun conference
19:34 chris and huge steaks
19:34 owen He's in Texas. You can tell by his ten-gallon hat.
19:32 rhcl schuster: are you in Nebraska?
19:30 pianohacker hdl_laptop: Note that these YAML files are used directly; systempreference descriptions have been taken out of the database
19:30 hdl_laptop Same system should be done for MARC structure
19:29 hdl_laptop But also a chance
19:29 hdl_laptop Potentially a risk.
19:29 hdl_laptop A button 'add translation' which would then store the result into the YAML file
19:28 hdl_laptop maybe you could get internationalisation of the systempreferences from the template.
19:27 pianohacker The first would be easier, but would involve a lot of copy-paste work
19:26 chris but what do i i know :)
19:26 pianohacker hdl_laptop: Hrm. That last one is a possibility
19:26 chris it would seem pretty silly to me to not use EG or Koha to do that, rather than reinvent the wheel
19:25 chris yeah the question is whether they are gonna use an existing solution to do that, or write a new one
19:24 hdl_laptop pianohacker: and then when loading, you could filter the hash valuse you want
19:24 schuster Minutes from the Lincoln Library meeting looks like they are trying to build a statewide system similar to Georgia.
19:23 schuster This spirit of collaboration led to a discussion between Nebraska libraries. Meetings have been taking place talking about an Open Source solution. It has evolved into what is being called the Pioneer Project. The seven libraries that are currently involved in the project represent over 45% of Nebraska’s library users. That number will only grow, especially ahttp://www.mibbit.com/pb/yyx2vi
19:23 hdl_laptop So that it could be all in one file
19:22 hdl_laptop or use hashes with code languages.
19:22 hdl_laptop two choices : use direct gettext over the file and use _('')
19:20 pianohacker Might be slightly easier than parsing the templates, as you can use YAML::Syck
19:20 hdl_laptop pianohacker: I thought about the YAML problem.
19:19 tajoli Yes, I will ask on koha mailing list about the two pages
19:17 hedgesst yes, Grandview Heights
19:17 chris the library near there was neat tho
19:17 chris it wasnt the best motel in the world, probably the best thng that could have happened to it :)
19:17 pianohacker YAML
19:16 pianohacker hdl_laptop: http://github.com/pianohacker/koha/blob/prefs/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/admin.pref
19:16 hedgesst it's been torn down now, just a vacant lot
19:16 hedgesst yeah, I work very close to that motel you stayed in when you first arrived in Columbus
19:15 chris time flies
19:15 chris hedgesst: i was thnkng about you the other day when i was doing some work on the history docs, its nearly 7 years (about a month away) since I first met you and owen in person
19:13 hdl_laptop Are those TT templates ??
19:13 hdl_laptop pianohacker: can you send some .pref file to me ?
19:12 pianohacker hdl_laptop: No kidding
19:12 pianohacker hdl_laptop: Speaking of which. Do you have any suggestions on translating the .pref files? Feature freeze is approaching fast, and I haven't had any epiphanies
19:12 chris *nod*
19:11 hdl_laptop (struggled one day for that.) But TmplTokenizer is..... a nigthmare
19:11 chris tajoli: you could ask on the mailing list
19:11 chris well xsl is good start
19:11 chris ahhh
19:11 hdl_laptop chris : unfortunately, i cannot get js files into the po.
19:10 hdl_laptop chris: hi I have a patch to propose to add xsl files to translations.
19:08 cait (has some experience with tings like that)
19:08 cait I feel for you chris
19:08 * chris emails his work to say no he wont be late today, he will be late tomorrow instead
19:06 chris lol good luck with that
19:06 tajoli Ok, so the pages http://koha.org/about/get-involved/irc and http://koha.org/support/free-support need an update
19:05 * owen appreciates gmcharlt's link to the Wolfram Alpha page from the announcement
19:05 cait and im easy to confuse about timezones
19:05 cait sorry, chris got me confused :P
19:05 hedgesst stupid dateline
19:05 chris stupid timezones
19:05 pianohacker cait: Nope, tomorrow
19:05 chris oh sheesh
19:04 cait the irc meeting is not today, is it?
19:04 hedgesst our cuts landed about a year before the libraries got hit
19:04 hedgesst yep, so far
19:04 chris hedgesst: hows things going? you guys survive the budget cuts?
19:02 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today
19:01 chris they have shifted tajoli
19:01 hedgesst hey!
19:01 owen Hi neighbor
19:01 tajoli Hi, Koha irc logs is still working ?
19:00 hedgesst (just lurking)
19:00 hedgesst hi
19:00 chris ltns
19:00 chris hey its hedgesst !!!
18:59 hdl_laptop badly
18:55 chris_n git is like a cat... if you don't handle it just right you will get scratched
18:55 hdl_laptop I sympathize.
18:55 hdl_laptop ooops
18:55 chris_n hdl_laptop: I'm two interactive rebases away from the mistake
18:54 chris rhcl: still mysterious eh
18:53 hdl_laptop reset --soft HEAD~1
18:53 * chris_n accidentally squashes two patches that should not have been :'(
18:53 chris_n *groan*
18:51 rhcl http://www.lincolnlibraries.org/board/agenda01-20-09.pdf
18:48 chris that might just be cos that presentation mentioned koha though
18:47 rhcl Nicole added the nebraska group to the Koha ILS group. Whatever Web 2.0 group that might have happened to be.
18:47 munin pianohacker: nengard was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 15 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <nengard> okay
18:47 pianohacker @seen nengard
18:46 munin rhcl: I have not seen nicole.
18:46 rhcl @seen nicole
18:45 pianohacker Programming it might not be that bad; getting it to match the cryptic requirements of the circ managers will be the inhumane part
18:44 pianohacker Hehe
18:43 owen I think that may violate the Geneva convention
18:43 pianohacker Make them rewrite the fines module or something like that
18:43 rhcl hehe
18:43 pianohacker Just charge them in patches
18:42 owen Uh... You got me. Anyone else have any experience with protection rackets?
18:41 rhcl So, how much should I collect from them?
18:41 owen Tell 'em next time they oughta pay protection money to Koha or somethin' like that'll happen again
18:40 rhcl Well, huh, I suppose I could do that.
18:40 owen Maybe you should go and bust the place up
18:39 rhcl Maybe I should go and gather some info.
18:39 chris yeah
18:39 rhcl Well, that's not clear, but they talk about both EG and Koha, but almost suggest they have something else in mind too.
18:39 owen Whatever they're doing they're leaving no tracks on the web
18:38 chris so i wonder if they are doing their own, or going with EG or Koha ?
18:38 rhcl 11:00 on Friday
18:38 owen Oh, pioneer.
18:37 rhcl it's there
18:37 rhcl Do a word search for pioneer
18:37 owen I don't see it listed in the program
18:37 chris hmm never heard of it
18:36 rhcl If I did a little song and dance my director would let me go, but I'm kinda ambivalent about going.
18:36 pianohacker Oh, yes. It is nice when things like that go unnoticed
18:36 rhcl http://www.nebraskalibraries.org/conference/2009/program.html
18:36 rhcl It's going to be presented here:
18:36 chris pianohacker: a server go live, switched servers, no one noticed
18:36 rhcl http://www.slideshare.net/gmickells/open-source-ils-nebraska-presentation
18:36 pianohacker How are you, chris?
18:36 pianohacker timing++
18:36 rhcl I just stumbled across this link, anybody know anything about the Pioneer Project (poss just in Nebraska)?
18:36 rhcl chris!
18:35 pianohacker What are you trying to hide, chris?
18:35 chris morning
18:35 rhcl harumpf
18:35 munin rhcl: chris was last seen in #koha 8 hours, 12 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <chris> so if no one even noticed, thats a raging success :)
18:35 rhcl @seen chris
18:35 rhcl harumpf
18:35 munin rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 3 days, 20 hours, 51 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> but maybe not
18:34 rhcl @seen wizzyrea
18:21 * sekjal mulls over pianohacker's suggestion... hmmmm
18:16 bigbrovar pianohacker: searching produced some promising report .. going thru them now
18:14 pianohacker Bye, |Lupin|
18:14 pianohacker owen: Possibly. It looks to be a very strange issue, so fun fun fun ahead
18:14 |Lupin| bye everybody
18:13 bigbrovar pianohacker: thanks i need it .. more of a generic sysad no nothing about libraries and their methods :)
18:13 * owen just skimmed the backlog
18:13 owen pianohacker and |Lupin|, do I need to review the virtual shelves system for no-js issues?
18:12 pianohacker bigbrovar: Good luck
18:12 pianohacker sekjal: That might be the easiest way to do it. No standard way to import serials that I know of
18:12 bigbrovar pianohacker: thanks will do that now
18:12 sekjal for the issues that are only in the 'checkin' records, I suppose I could modify my stylesheet to convert them into MARCXML 952, provided I can fill the data in all the right places
18:12 pianohacker bigbrovar: I believe that if you search the mailing lists, there is a guide to importing from CSV
18:11 sekjal some of my issues do have item records, and those have been imported as such.
18:11 bigbrovar but i dont know how it work.. i exported the spreedsheet to csv .. but i have not used MarEdit before and dont know how to go about it :(
18:10 pianohacker sekjal: Have you considered simply importing the serials as items, then using a perl script to copy the necessary serials information after import?
18:09 sekjal sorry, been looking at all kinds of screens lately
18:09 bigbrovar oh yeah am using it right now (using it with windows Virtualbox)
18:09 sekjal I'm here, pianohacker
18:08 pianohacker Any luck with MarcEdit?
18:08 bigbrovar w to go about this
18:08 bigbrovar hi guys so i have done most of the configuration for my koha server, only area left is how to populate the database with u know .. books .. now before now the librarian in my school used a tool called cutter to get the author number and then cross checks the book for its classification in the ddc website. and input all this data to a spreedsheet (OO.o) now am looking for a way to import the work done in this spreedsheet into koha .. but am at a loss on ho
18:02 pianohacker sekjal: around?
18:02 pianohacker Which reminds me
18:02 pianohacker Not a problem
18:02 |Lupin| pianohacker: thanks a lot for your support, it is very appreciated and very encouraging
17:59 pianohacker It is nice to know what you're trying to fix
17:59 |Lupin| pianohacker: common ! I'm pretty sure we will discover soon you have done nine tenth of the path if not more !!
17:56 pianohacker No problem. Sorry I couldn't fix it
17:56 |Lupin| thanks a lot for that !!!
17:56 |Lupin| pianohacker: anyway, many thanks for your help, good quesitons that lead to a fairl precise description of the problem !
17:56 pianohacker yes
17:55 |Lupin| pianohacker: ok, maybe we have to wait and the solution will become obvious later...
17:55 pianohacker I can't figure out why it would be breaking at first glance
17:53 |Lupin| pianohacker: cause if you have them in the DB, then aI'm wondering if you can see any difference between these lines and those yu have for lists added with js-aware browsers
17:52 pianohacker Yes...
17:52 pianohacker Yup
17:52 |Lupin| pianohacker: yep, but not the only thing that doesn't work correctly without js
17:52 |Lupin| pianohacker: do you have them in your db ?
17:51 pianohacker Annoying, though
17:51 |Lupin| but well, perhaps not such an important issue..
17:51 pianohacker It also doesn't show up in Firefox
17:51 |Lupin| it's just they are not show up in staff
17:51 |Lupin| they did show up in the database
17:51 pianohacker It just doesn't show up
17:51 pianohacker Well, I can add it
17:51 |Lupin| lists
17:51 |Lupin| I could add the list
17:51 |Lupin| pianohacker: in lynx things are different
17:51 |Lupin| pianohacker: hmm
17:50 pianohacker Can't add a private list in w3m
17:50 pianohacker Huh. Confirmed that adding Private lists is buggy with non-JavaScript browsers
17:48 |Lupin| pianohacker: k, tried with a non super librarina staff client. Can't see the list, neither in staff client nor in Opac, went to the Manage lists page.
17:46 |Lupin| pianohacker: bit 1 of flags, ok, thanks
17:44 pianohacker The flags column in borrowers is a bit mask; if that column is odd, the borrower is a superlibrarian
17:44 |Lupin| pianohacker: do you know how to check at the database level that an account is not superlibrarian, pls ?
17:43 |Lupin| pianohacker: ok
17:43 pianohacker They should appear for that staff user, yes
17:43 |Lupin| pianohacker: since they are private lists;.. should they appear in the first place ?
17:42 pianohacker Does it appear with a normal staff user?
17:42 pianohacker Okay. I'm pretty much at a loss; can't duplicate the problem...
17:42 |Lupin| personal account with superlibrarian priviledges
17:42 |Lupin| ah no
17:41 cait yeah, thought that
17:41 pianohacker But not the MySQL account
17:41 |Lupin| cait: no root in Kha...
17:41 |Lupin| cait: super librarian
17:41 cait superlibrarian or root? :)
17:41 |Lupin| pianohacker: yeah I'm logged in with a super libraian account
17:40 pianohacker Are you logged in as kohaadmin? (grasping at straws)
17:38 |Lupin| pianohacker: yes, the public one appears.
17:37 |Lupin| pianohacker: let me try that.
17:37 pianohacker Does anything show up on the staff client if you create a public list?
17:36 |Lupin| pianohacker: when I go to cgi-bin/koha/virtualshelves/shelves.pl, there are two links: your lists and then Public virtual shelves. And then come two messages: NO private virtual shelves. No public virtual shelves.
17:35 pianohacker Ah
17:33 |Lupin| pianohacker: since I'm using lynx it is hard to give a correct answer to this one
17:32 pianohacker Okay. There are two tabs on the staff Lists interface; the list doesn't show up on either of them (verifying)
17:31 |Lupin| pianohacker: yeah I think I understood it a bit late...
17:31 pianohacker You answered my question as I asked it
17:30 |Lupin| pianohacker: no
17:30 pianohacker Ah
17:30 pianohacker Do the lists show up at all in the HTML for the staff side?
17:30 |Lupin| pianohacker: no trace of them in the staff client page's source code
17:30 |Lupin| pianohacker: it's just in the staff client they are not shown
17:30 |Lupin| pianohacker: yeah the OPAC is working
17:29 pianohacker I thought you said the OPAC was working?
17:28 pianohacker Yes
17:28 |Lupin| pianohacker: although the sql requests seem correct, as I said.
17:28 |Lupin| pianohacker: I can check, but in the opac it clearly says there are no lists
17:27 pianohacker If you look at the HTML source, is there any sign of them? Could be a glitch in the display
17:27 |Lupin| pianohacker: okk. Anyway, well spotted, thanks a lot. That's at least oone place where they can be accessed from, much better than nothing !
17:27 pianohacker No, that shouldn't be it
17:26 |Lupin| pianohacker: so it's just in the INtranet they do not appear... perhas it is because they are still empty ? can hardly believe that...
17:26 |Lupin| pianohacker: yes they do !!
17:25 |Lupin| pianohacker: let me check
17:25 pianohacker Do they show up if you log into the OPAC as that staff user?
17:25 |Lupin| pianohacker: private
17:24 |Lupin| private
17:24 |Lupin| privae
17:22 pianohacker Hmm. What kind of lists did you make them? Private, Public, or Open?
17:21 |Lupin| pianohacker: I just examined the code and tried the SQL requests: they give back the expected result. Any idea what else could be checked ?
17:16 kf thx, will attend irc meeting tomorrow - but still -vacation yay :)
17:16 pianohacker Bye, have a good vacation
17:16 kf bye #koha - officially on vacation now - yay :)
16:57 |Lupin| surprising...
16:57 |Lupin| hmm ?
16:56 pianohacker Probably a bug :)
16:56 |Lupin| btw the interface still calls them virtual shelves... assume it's normal ?
16:56 |Lupin| no, it says there are no lists...
16:54 pianohacker Do they appear under Public Lists, under Lists in the staff interface?
16:54 |Lupin| pianohacker: any idea abut what goes wrong ?
16:54 |Lupin| pianohacker: I'm having a problem with Koha lists... I have created two of them and still, when I log in to the staff client as the user that has created them, they don't appear
16:53 |Lupin| (pianohacker) :-)
16:53 pianohacker Hi, Sébastien
16:53 |Lupin| (pia) :-)
16:53 |Lupin| hey Jese
16:46 |Lupin| do the lists have to contain one element to be displayed in the staff clietn, or should they be displayed even when they are empty ?
16:18 kf hm
16:15 |Lupin| kf: set to 1 here, should work;;;
16:13 |Lupin| ahah, thanks kf
16:12 kf there is one for virtual shelves
16:10 |Lupin| Is there some psysperf that should be turned on so that the virtual shelves work, pls ?
15:42 |Lupin| any idea what may have been done wrong,pls ?
15:42 |Lupin| hey don't appear in the staff client when one logs n as the owner of the shelves
15:42 |Lupin| I think I did it manually because of accessibility problems
15:42 |Lupin| I have added a fiew virtualshelves to the database
15:42 |Lupin| just a quick question to all
15:41 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: ok
15:39 hdl_laptop mmm a little too early atm
15:38 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: great ! can you be a bit more precise, or is it too early ?
15:27 hdl_laptop |Lupin|: something arinve to merge two biblios
15:26 * owen heads out to a meeting
15:26 owen Not that I know of, but I don't know what's coming from paul and hdl_laptop for 3.2
15:24 |Lupin| and I assume if a more refined merging is required, one has to do it "manually", I mean there are no tools that can help in Koha... Am I right ?
15:22 |Lupin| owen: ok, tanks
15:17 owen To my understanding, yes
15:15 |Lupin| owen: so the import tool (is it stage MARC records for import you are mentionning, actually) applies some rules to see whether the imported records create some duplicates with already existing ones ?
15:13 |Lupin| owen: ok, thanks a lot for the pointer
15:12 owen I'm not very familiar with it
15:12 owen |Lupin|: I suspect you could use the MARC import tool as well. There are options for how to handle matched records during the import process, but you'd have to be sure the two records matched on whatever point the import tool looks at
15:08 |Lupin| owen: ah ok, thanks. Unfortunately the z39.50 server of our national library is terribly slow. NO other way ?
15:05 owen Just open the old record, do a z39.50 search, and import the record you find.
15:05 owen It's easy to do if the better record can be found with z39.50
14:58 |Lupin| question for librarians: assume you have a home-made record in a catalogue, and you find a better record, say, at the national library of your country. Is it possible with Koha to replace the home-made record by the one from the national library, please ?
14:45 kf nicomo_laptop: sorry, I dont remember his arguments - but conclusion was: write an enhancement request (which is still on my list, but you were faster :) )
14:44 nicomo_laptop thanks kf
14:44 nicomo_laptop so I'm not quite sure, maybe he'll have a good rationale for it though, we'll see
14:44 nicomo_laptop even in your exemple, the patron can do just that holding items
14:43 nicomo_laptop ok, I'll ping him on this tomorrow
14:43 nicomo_laptop probably not :-)
14:43 kf I think he is asleep now :)
14:43 nicomo_laptop 3am there
14:43 nicomo_laptop ah no
14:43 nicomo_laptop chris around?
14:42 nicomo_laptop too many chris' in here
14:42 kf chris without _n
14:42 kf like checked out volume 1 and want to read volume 2 later
14:42 nicomo_laptop ah /me turns to chris_n then
14:42 kf perhaps so can put another volume on hold
14:41 kf nicomo_laptop: I share your opionion that it should be changed, but I think chris said some libraries may want it that way so it should be an option
14:39 |Lupin| chris_n: hmm would that work even if the keys are not oreign ?
14:37 nicomo_laptop it's just I can't think of a real world use for it
14:36 nicomo_laptop how do you anticipate patrons to use it as is?
14:36 nicomo_laptop I'd like to have more info about the "feature" part of it
14:36 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3551 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, patron able to place hold on book he already has
14:36 nicomo_laptop about bug 3551
14:35 nicomo_laptop eh eh, I'm trying to do the same *after* my vacation
14:35 chris_n |Lupin|: something like 'ALTER TABLE some_table DROP FOREIGN KEY some_key_name;'
14:35 kf trying to sort my mailbox before vacation :)
14:35 kf yes
14:34 |Lupin| chris_n: disabling I know actually, but not dropping
14:34 nicomo_laptop kf: around?
14:34 |Lupin| chris_n: drop them completely
14:27 chris_n |Lupin|: do you want to drop them completely or just disable them temporarily?
14:12 |Lupin| someone knows how to drop some keys in mysql ?
14:12 |Lupin| pls
14:04 bigbrovar chris_n++
14:03 bigbrovar lupin: thanks
13:55 chris_n on the scale of fun things to do, that is
13:55 * chris_n rates testing code only a notch above writing POD
13:54 |Lupin| bigbrovar: do chris++ if you want to increase his karma... :)
13:41 bigbrovar chris + 1 for freesoftware
13:32 chris_n ahh, dedicated label printers... I think I'll leave it alone for now.
13:30 chris_n well, it helps to read the commit messages.... sometimes. :-)
13:30 chris_n if the goal is simply to be able to feed in a barcode and get out a label, then I'll just duplicate that functionality
13:29 chris_n so I'm wondering just how effective it is with differing spine label media
13:29 chris_n it does not produce pdf output
13:28 chris_n lol ;-)
13:28 paul_p chris_n: printing spine labels maybe ? :D
13:27 chris_n gmcharlt: what is the goal of spinelabel-print.pl ?
13:15 kf :)
13:14 jdavidb I'm a little slow on the uptake today, but when you hand one out that's *that* obvious...
13:14 jdavidb :P , owen
13:14 owen :P
13:14 munin jdavidb: The operation succeeded. Quote #28 added.
13:14 jdavidb @quote add <owen> I'm glad munin doesn't follow me around all day remembering *everything* I say.
13:12 owen I'm glad munin doesn't follow me around all day remembering *everything* I say.
13:11 munin jdavidb: Quote #12: "<owen> Every time you check in a book a little video loads and Nancy Pearl recites her capsule review of it." (added by gmcharlt at 06:36 PM, July 06, 2009)
13:11 jdavidb @quote random
13:09 owen Otherwise we'd need to create a whole management system for those links
13:09 owen I think Nicole's solution was the best available given the current architecture of system preferences
13:08 owen That's okay :)
13:07 hdl_laptop sorry for blaming you unfair ly.
13:05 owen Are you referring to nengard's patch? http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=8f2d9cd6cef4cb97b8292a32f178525ea40ae7c8
13:04 hdl_laptop But also a pity not to be able to translate the strings.
13:03 hdl_laptop And I thought it was great to have that kind of stuff parametrized.
13:03 hdl_laptop (detail page)
13:03 hdl_laptop owen: I just saw your patch about additionnal search.
13:02 hdl_laptop Good.
13:00 * owen is happy to see Galen and Debra Denault mentioned in Marshall Breeding's Library Technology Update today
12:56 owen I don't know what you're referring to
12:55 owen I read in the logs you mentioned "patches owen sends which load some jquery code into database"
12:55 owen Hi.
12:55 hdl_laptop yes
12:54 owen hdl_laptop?
12:19 Amit hi lupin very late
12:19 |Lupin| hello !
12:17 jwagner and hi to all
12:17 * kf greets chris_n
12:17 * chris_n suddenly realizes he is working on the wrong branch :-P
12:16 * chris_n greets kf
12:15 Amit hi chris_n
12:13 kf hi gmcharlt and jane wagner
12:12 chris_n hi jwagner
12:12 chris_n hi Amit
12:08 jwagner Hi Amit
12:08 gmcharlt hi Amit
12:08 Amit hi galen, jwagner
12:06 jwagner Or, to be Edward R. Murrow-ish about it, Good Night and Good Luck
12:05 gmcharlt jwagner++
12:05 jwagner and good night
11:59 chris_n lol
11:58 gmcharlt and good evening
11:58 gmcharlt good afternoon
11:58 gmcharlt good morning
11:57 chris_n g'morning #koha
10:27 jransom talk tomorrow.
10:27 jransom right - bedtime.
10:23 jransom indeed it is.
10:22 chris so if no one even noticed, thats a raging success :)
10:22 jransom great stuff.
10:22 chris yep switched it over last night
10:20 jransom anyway - not our problem.
10:20 jransom its damnnear second hand now though...
10:20 jransom they will be pleased
10:19 jransom i'll getthat back tomorrow
10:19 jransom fantastic.
10:19 jransom so are now running on the new servers?
10:19 chris should be able to send the loaner back
10:19 jransom havn't heard otherwise
10:19 chris i guess so, or i woulda heard aobout it
10:19 jransom spose so ..
10:19 chris so koha worked ok ?
10:19 jransom been home sick - + 3 kids
10:19 jransom back to work tomorrow
10:18 chris hehe
10:18 jransom i think you attach it to every email you send out :)
10:18 chris :)
10:18 jransom yes chris - you have.
10:17 chris i showed you my one with linus eh?
10:17 chris hehe yeah :)
10:17 paul_p time to go to lunch. kivutar is hungry...
10:15 jransom you might be able to get a photo with RS too!
10:15 chris that will be both linus and rms who have heard about koha :-)
10:14 jransom gosh - i bet he has an opinion on that
10:14 jransom lol
10:14 chris :-)
10:14 chris and how to deal with it
10:14 chris we can get his opinion on with holding code from the community
10:14 jransom ah - cool
10:14 paul_p so, he knows at least a few things about koha. At least 2003 koha :D
10:14 chris no jury is right
10:13 paul_p jury ? (french only ?)
10:13 jransom but if we want him to talk he will while he is here
10:13 paul_p jransom: when Koha won "trophee du libre", in 2003, he was a member of the selecting team
10:13 jransom coming for the visit
10:13 jransom yep - exactly.
10:13 chris 2 different things .. is tht right jo?
10:13 chris he is coming to hear about koha/kete .. and also give a talk
10:12 jransom his tallk wont be about koha
10:12 chris yes
10:12 jransom i think he interested in talking to us about koha and kete
10:12 chris he will in his general talk
10:12 paul_p I mean koha specific. I bet he will just speak of licence & freedom & all that kind of things (as usual)
10:11 paul_p my question: what can RMS say about Koha
10:11 paul_p nope, thanks to point this to me ;-)
10:11 jransom imagine him coming to our little library ..
10:10 chris did you see that paul_p ? :)
10:10 chris ta
10:10 jransom sent it to bigball too
10:10 chris yay brenda
10:10 jransom brenda has set it up
10:09 jransom work
10:09 chris did you send to my work or bigballofwax address?
10:09 jransom might be a dry run then !
10:09 jransom yep - will have to watch tht!
10:09 chris ahh sounds like the same one as lianza
10:09 jransom copyright and community in the age of digital networks
10:09 chris make sure you say free software not open source :)
10:08 chris hes doing the copyright one at lianza
10:08 chris cool
10:08 jransom and he is probably going to do a public talk on cc and community
10:08 jransom :)
10:07 chris will do
10:07 chris thats pretty cool
10:07 jransom save the date
10:07 jransom 6th oct
10:07 chris oh wow, really
10:07 jransom richard stallman is coming to levin to talk about koha and kete
10:07 jransom just now
10:07 chris when did you send it?
10:07 chris hmm nope
10:06 jransom me=my
10:06 jransom you get me email?
10:06 jransom evening mr cormack
09:59 chris evening jransom
09:54 chris translates patron back to member :)
09:54 chris http://translate.koha.org/en_NZ/opac3_0/
09:53 kf same in Germany - Benutzer = user and Leser = reader
09:52 chris yep
09:52 * paul_p suspects patrons being a usa-ism
09:52 paul_p "users" or "readers" in France
09:44 chris yeah, patrons is what they are called in america (members in nz)
09:44 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:ldap
09:43 bigbrovar oh users are called patrons .. ahhhhh thanks .. i owe u a beer (or your favourite beverage )
09:42 chris http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/patrons/add-a-new-patron
09:42 bigbrovar add them we dont have any library system to migrate from in the first place .. although we have an ldap server with users not sure how that can be integrated to koha
09:41 chris http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/patrons/add-new-staff-patron/
09:39 chris how to migrate them? or just how to add them?
09:39 bigbrovar chris: so to stree you on this but i have really googled it and cant figure out how to add users to koha ..
09:34 chris paul_p: http://paris2009.drupalcon.org/user/52/my_schedule2
09:33 bigbrovar aight thanks
09:31 chris yep .. so in 10.5 hours
09:31 bigbrovar chris: morning chris just to confirm dev meeting is 1900 hours UTC today?
09:30 chris is one
09:30 chris http://paris2009.drupalcon.org/session/developing-postgresql-tips-tools-and-tricks
09:29 chris that's who to to look for
09:29 chris fiasco
09:26 chris look for ones about postgresql
09:26 chris he is speaking twice
09:20 * paul_p can't find josh waihi on conf schedule :(
09:17 paul_p chris: do you know when josh w speaks ? and what is the subject of his conference ?
09:08 chris excellent it will make a lot of people happy then :)
09:07 kf chris: just helped to create the patch and to send it away. It looks really nice for the Hebrew, Japanese and Russian records from LOC I tested.
09:06 chris looks fine to me at first glance
09:05 kf chris: hope its ok, my boss did the programming
09:05 chris http://twitpic.com/g2j9j
09:05 paul_p today is more a coderun than a conference.
09:04 chris josh waihi is tweeting
09:04 chris ahh cool
09:04 chris i see your patch kf
09:04 * paul_p and Kivutar at Drupalcon ...
09:04 Kivutar hi chris and all
09:03 chris hi Kivutar and paul_p
08:55 bigbrovar .
08:25 kf bbl
08:25 kf I will try to copy all neccessary information to the mail
08:24 kf creating the patch on my private laptop
08:24 kf I think we can do it with git send-email next time, but its vacation time now
08:24 chris that works, just doesn't make a as nice as email
08:23 kf not permitted.
08:23 chris you can send it from a mail client
08:22 kf or ubuntu without git installed (and im permitted to install something there)
08:22 chris ahh well git-send email lets you change the address its from
08:22 kf no windows :(
08:22 kf also that we can use the company email address, dont want to use my private one (wich is not subscribed anyway)
08:22 chris cos if so you can just git send-email on it :)
08:22 chris another linux computer?
08:22 kf wanted to do that yes
08:21 chris copy it to another computer?
08:21 chris hmm how were you going to email it?
08:20 kf yes, but I have to create the patch on my laptop, wich has not internet connection
08:15 chris is the nice way of doing it
08:15 chris git send-email
08:12 kf can I send this file with my email client to patches mailing list?
08:12 kf we currently work on our first patch to koha - I managed to create a .patch-file yesterday
07:56 hdl_laptop hi kf
07:55 kf hi hdl
07:50 hdl_laptop hi
05:57 kf hi Amit and good morning #koha
05:50 Amit hi kf
05:01 magnusenger hi Amit
04:57 Amit hi magnusenger
04:43 magnusenger hi chris!
04:39 chris hi magnusenger
03:20 pianohacker Good night
03:14 chris hi Amit
03:14 Amit good morning #koha
03:14 Amit hi chris, brendan
02:33 chris_n2 g'night
01:58 pianohacker good night, brendan
01:55 brendan good night
01:06 chris hi IrmaCalyx
00:23 richard hi pianohacker
00:18 pianohacker Hello
00:17 richard hi
00:15 hdl_laptop see you. Thanks for your patience
00:14 gmcharlt g'night hdl_laptop
00:10 pianohacker Good night
00:05 hdl_laptop I'd have rather go to bed.
00:05 hdl_laptop Never mind.
00:05 hdl_laptop But you seemed to discuss use of Z3950 as an underlying search/retrieve protocol.
00:04 hdl_laptop Nothing.
00:03 gmcharlt now I'm really confused - what do search comparison operators how to do with OPAC displays?
00:02 hdl_laptop a) looks like we have not been interested enough to provide ppl with comparison operators.
00:00 hdl_laptop I mean,
00:00 hdl_laptop current .... ????