Time Nick Message 23:59 hdl_laptop mmmm.... 23:57 gmcharlt honestly, I think simply enumerating and clearly definiing the current structure would be enough 23:57 gmcharlt lol 23:54 hdl_laptop WTFL ? 23:54 hdl_laptop ccl ? CQL ? 23:54 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: what would be the best base in your opinion ? 23:54 hdl_laptop bon apetit. 23:53 chris and with that, im going to lunch 23:52 chris JSON 23:52 hdl_laptop rather than copy/paste 23:51 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: but it still could be a good canvas in order to design output formats : Summary, detail, HTML, ... 23:49 hdl_laptop yes 23:49 gmcharlt in any event, something to argue about later ;) 23:49 gmcharlt 4.never :) the Z39.50 definitions are not a good basis IMO 23:49 chris not sure i understand you 23:48 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: chris : I have seen OPAC and Summary and HTML as Object Identifier for yaz. I think It could be a good way to take things out of Template Code if we would be able to use those IDs in order to get information.... For 4.0 :P 23:43 hdl_laptop But I have to work on xslt and columns.def translation 23:42 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: I thought some of those translation problems could be avoided by a WebServices architecture. 23:42 chris that was my guess too 23:41 hdl_laptop s 23:41 hdl_laptop chris : az is for azerbaidjan code I gues 23:40 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: noted re the other patches 23:40 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: re jquery in DB - yes, there is a potential translation problem 23:21 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: I have pushed some patches from HEAD which could be fixing some issues and some of our bug fixes too onto reconciliation 23:12 hdl_laptop Is that some issue you are considering ? 23:11 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: about the patches owen sends which load some jquery code into database, I see there an obvious problem for translation and internationalization. 23:05 hdl_laptop I utterly agree on that. 23:05 munin pianohacker: Karma for "bugfixing" has been increased 3 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 2. 23:05 pianohacker @karma bugfixing 23:05 hdl_laptop bug-- fixing++ 23:04 brendan :) 23:04 brendan just kidding 23:04 gmcharlt bugfixing++ 23:04 gmcharlt ? 23:04 hdl_laptop bugfixing++ 23:04 brendan err bugfixing-- 23:04 brendan bugfixing++ 23:02 chris *nod* 23:02 gmcharlt Matcher & extended_attributes, sure, but priority should be bugfixing 22:53 hdl_laptop (apart from well, let's first integrate those features wherever possible 1st, which would be also a reasonable opinion maybe the only one to have atm). 22:52 hdl_laptop any thoughts about that ? 22:51 hdl_laptop Matcher 22:51 hdl_laptop extended_attributes 22:51 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: I also think that some features could quite easily be generalised : 22:51 hdl_laptop Hopefully we can use that in that purpose. 22:50 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: cool 22:50 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: We may have one french Biblibrarian "hackfest" in the next few weeks. 22:49 hdl_laptop But I agree it also is the only "sane" way to do. 22:49 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: yep - goal is a solid release, not a buggy one :) 22:48 hdl_laptop The plan about feature and topic branches seems really HEAVY work on bugfixes. 22:45 brendan :) 22:45 hdl_laptop Have to update some translation 22:45 hdl_laptop I am quite accustomed to that ;) 22:45 brendan well hdl_laptop so late ? 22:44 hdl_laptop hi nahuel so late ???? 22:44 hdl_laptop hi howdy ? 22:44 gmcharlt hi hdl_laptop 22:40 |Lupin| good day NZ, chris... 22:39 |Lupin| good night, everybody 22:33 hdl_laptop mmmm... Maybe a little lack on one of our local branch 22:29 * chris is confused 22:27 chris so whats in my git is the same as what is pootle and what is pushed up 22:27 chris 10:27 ~/git/koha-gitosis (3.0.x)$ 22:27 chris 10:27 ~/git/koha-gitosis (3.0.x)$ git diff 22:27 chris 10:27 ~/git/koha-gitosis (3.0.x)$ 22:27 chris 10:23 ~/git/koha-gitosis (3.0.x)$ diff misc/translator/po/fr-FR-i-staff-t-prog-v-3000000.po /var/lib/pootle/intranet3_0/fr/fr-FR-i-staff-t-prog-v-3000000.po 22:26 chris not according to git it doesnt 22:25 hdl_laptop chris : thanks but staff need update too. 22:25 chris hdl_laptop: did you see this too http://translate.koha.org/fr/opac3_1/ 22:24 chris http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=shortlog;h=3.0.x there we go 22:23 chris pushed from pootle 22:19 chris you push from 3.0.x to ? 22:18 chris ? 22:16 hdl_laptop unless it comes from 3.0.x 22:16 chris 2 secs 22:16 chris i will do a new push 22:16 chris cool 22:16 hdl_laptop now, I never push po files. 22:16 chris because we will clash with each other 22:16 hdl_laptop I saw you pushed two days ago. 22:15 chris it is much safer if we dont both try to push .po files 22:15 hdl_laptop I have taken that. 22:15 chris ill do another push from pootle that will update what is in 3.0.x 22:15 chris hmm i just pushed to git recently 22:15 hdl_laptop I donot think strings will change a lot. 22:14 chris ta 22:14 hdl_laptop You can update. 22:14 hdl_laptop By the way, i have pushed a BIG couple of patches on koha-maintenance/reconciliation. 22:14 hdl_laptop At least, it is what I saw on our branch. 22:12 hdl_laptop But the fact is that at the moment, i think that french translation is more up to date in pootle than on 3.0.x branch 22:11 hdl_laptop yes. 22:10 chris ie, things should go into pootle, then into git .. not into git first 22:10 chris basically if no one else pushes .po files then it wont happen 22:09 chris i only push to 3.0.x from pootle 22:09 hdl_laptop Is there something to do to check that so that it won't happen again ? 22:09 chris oh? 22:08 hdl_laptop chris : I have a question about translation workflow, it seems that French po file is not the one that is now on pootle 22:08 pianohacker No problem 22:07 CGI426 thanks piano hacker 22:07 hdl_laptop howdy ? 22:07 hdl_laptop hi 22:07 chris sup hdl_laptop ? 22:06 hdl_laptop chris around ? 22:06 pianohacker It's easier to search for different item types, yes 22:06 CGI426 will that increase discoverability? 22:05 CGI426 okay 22:05 pianohacker You can still set itemtypes on the individual items, rather than at the bib record level 22:05 pianohacker Okay 22:04 CGI426 we edit them with dublin core to reflect a digital object linked to a url 22:04 CGI426 the records are coming from OCLC 22:03 pianohacker You give them different item types 22:03 pianohacker Usually, though, if you're dealing with two entirely different kinds of items 22:03 CGI426 thanks 22:02 CGI426 writing this down... 22:02 pianohacker You set them up under Admin -> Authorized Values, then choose them when you catalog an item 22:02 CGI426 for our regular location 22:01 CGI426 stacks is the shelving location 22:01 pianohacker Usually shelving locations are set during cataloging 22:01 CGI426 since no digital object will be located in stacks 22:01 CGI426 can i change the location in admin to something other than stacks? 22:00 pianohacker As in a library/branch, or a shelving location? 22:00 CGI426 setting up a second library location in Koha 22:00 CGI426 virtual 22:00 CGI426 working on a digital location 21:59 pianohacker Okay 21:59 CGI426 so I really have a question for anyone 21:58 CGI426 smile 21:58 chris ahh heya :) 21:58 CGI426 Lee 21:58 chris type /nick nickname 21:58 CGI426 my login needs to be reset or you'd see me 21:57 CGI426 guess... 21:57 CGI426 MT here 21:57 chris ? 21:56 CGI426 surprised to see weather is "under dev" 21:55 CGI426 librarian lurking 21:46 |Lupin| here the wether is very nice, too 21:46 |Lupin| yeah ! 21:44 chris spring is here, the sun is shining, it's good 21:44 |Lupin| hey chris, how is NZ ? how are you ? 21:43 chris hi |Lupin| 21:43 |Lupin| hi 21:38 chris a good bus mechanic might help more ;) 21:37 brendan err.. back braces 21:36 * brendan investigates helmets to purchase and send to NZ 21:36 brendan damn 21:36 chris actually yeah it was the whiplash bus again this morning 21:36 chris hehe 21:35 gmcharlt chris was on the bus, which was jerking him around ;) 21:34 owen Uh oh, what'd we miss? 21:33 * chris calms down :) 21:33 chris ahhh, ppl annoying me today 21:32 pianohacker chris: ? 21:30 chris complete_tools-- 21:30 chris jerks-- 21:30 chris jerks-- 21:20 pianohacker bye 21:20 schuster see you all tomorrow! off to American Football 8 year old practice 21:08 chris seems fine 21:08 chris yeah 21:07 pianohacker Hmm. DNS for irc.katipo.co.nz is working for me 21:04 chris its a good feeling eh 21:04 chris :-) 21:01 schuster yippie! I helped someone! 20:56 sekjal well that fixes my problem for today 20:55 chris and asplode 20:55 chris thats what the limit catchall is for, so ppl dont do select * from biblio,items,borrowers; 20:55 schuster Didn't know Limit existed until I ran a report and read chris' comment. 20:54 schuster I'm one of those who knows just enough to be dangerous! 20:53 jwagner I'm thinking of people who may not know enough SQL to know how to specify a limit. Syspref could be a fallback -- if there's a limit in the report SQL, use it, otherwise use syspref 20:53 chris the person next to you who wants 700, now gets 10 20:53 chris and if you change the syspref 20:52 chris at the moment if you only want 10 .. you get 9999 20:52 chris that would be better 20:52 chris that would work too, but if it respects the limit you specify on your query 20:52 schuster Cook - go for it jwagner! ;) 20:51 jwagner chris, might it be a good idea to set a syspref for limit so that sites can specify their own & change as needed? 20:51 schuster :) 20:51 chris and change that to some high number 20:51 chris in C4/Reports/Guided.pm 20:51 chris $limit = 9999 unless $limit; 20:50 chris find the line that goes 20:50 chris yep thats a quick temp fix 20:50 schuster I was able to find that bit of code and adjust the number 35000 until the patch comes through. 20:48 sekjal cool, thanks chris. my boss needs a certain report to load into our temporary course reserves solution, so I've got to figure out how to get it to him soon 20:47 pianohacker Good night 20:47 chris night kf 20:46 kf good night everybody! 20:45 chris then you can do SELECT * FROM borrowers LIMIT 10000000000 if you so wish :) 20:45 chris i hope to have some time today to fix it up and send a patch 20:45 chris but that regexp isn't quite right either (it fails if you dont specify an offset and a limit) 20:45 kf not my work sadly, I will just help to create the patch file. 20:44 sekjal ah 20:44 chris yay kf :) 20:43 kf chris chris_n gmcharlt: thx for the help! hope I can redo the patch tomorrow with the newer files. 20:43 chris $sql =~ s/\bLIMIT\b\s*(\d+)\,*(\s*\d+)?\s*/ /ig; 20:43 chris should be something more like 20:42 chris (that second regex) 20:42 chris is the broken bit 20:41 chris http://koha.pastebin.com/m6f98023f 20:41 chris basically there is a bug in the code 20:40 chris or a catcher as you guys say :) 20:40 chris just as a backstop 20:40 chris (if no limit is set it will still cap at 9999) 20:39 chris that will respect the limit you specify in your sql 20:39 chris i have a fix for that half done 20:39 chris yep 20:38 sekjal Did Koha 3.0.2 or 3.0.3 limit the number of rows that can be exported from a Guided Report? After I upgraded, I'm getting capped at 10,000 20:35 kf I think it worked 20:34 gmcharlt note the trailing ^ 20:34 gmcharlt will get rid of it 20:34 gmcharlt git reset --hard HEAD^ 20:34 gmcharlt kf: is your commit at the top? if so 20:33 kf hm 20:32 kf still shows 20:31 nengard okay 20:31 nengard ahh 20:31 chris i used google translate nengard, it does an ok job, i think they are all asleep now 20:30 nengard anyone who speaks French on? 20:30 chris should no longer show your commit 20:30 chris git log 20:29 kf or how do I know it worked? 20:28 kf hm should the changed files change back? 20:27 kf thx, will try that! 20:27 chris_n2-away 'git reset --hard HEAD' will take you back and remove your work as well 20:26 chris yeah, thats probably the nicest way, thanks chris_n 20:26 chris_n2-away kf: 'git reset --soft HEAD' will take you back one commit, but not remove the work of your commit 20:18 kf is there an easy way to do this? 20:18 chris and you will be back where you were before 20:17 chris or you can revert the commit 20:17 kf but I loose my koha install from mywork branch this way? 20:17 kf ah ok 20:17 chris you can just go back to master, make a new branch, make your changes there 20:16 chris all good then 20:16 kf git branch tells me im on mywork 20:16 kf good question 20:16 chris did you make it on a branch, or did you make it on master? 20:15 kf I think so 20:15 chris so you have a commit that you don't want anymore? 20:15 kf does not help that its late and my internet was down for hours ... 20:14 chris ahhh 20:14 kf to the state where I can produce this patch with updated files tomorrow at work? 20:14 * kf searching for words 20:14 chris get back from where? :) 20:14 kf has someone time to answer a newbie git question? I managed to produce a patch :) but it was just a test - how can I get back now? 20:13 chris back 19:28 * chris_n pokes his zebra 19:27 chris_n someone else was asking about enforcing print policies w/koha some time back 19:26 pianohacker Very much 19:26 brendan pianohacker sounds like a plan 19:26 brendan chris++ 19:26 pianohacker ooh 19:25 chris pianohacker: make it your dissertation :) 19:25 pianohacker bye 19:25 chris ok im off to work back in 50 mins 19:25 pianohacker Maybe someday in the far off future when I have some free time (ha), I can integrate powerline with pykota 19:24 chris :) 19:24 * chris_n feels very animated atm 19:24 chris ill have to get someone to translate it better, but i like the quote 19:23 sekjal brendan: sorry to hear that. chris helped me get the circulation state script beaten into submission, and now its just looking at odd cases and trying to fix them 19:23 chris_n pianohacker: I'm looking forward to getting it running here and getting off of the blackhole of closed source in that area as well 19:23 chris :) 19:23 chris i think it means vodka 19:23 pianohacker We have been animated by spirits? Ghost-powered development for the win 19:23 chris_n heh 19:22 chris ohh remind not to paste from google translate again 19:22 chris F. Demians: "His inclusiveness. La vraie richesse de Koha, c'est la communauté mondiale de ses utilisateurs et de ses développeurs, son ouverture à toute contribution, l'esprit de coopération qui anime ses membres†The real wealth of Koha is the world community of its users and its developers, open to any contribution the cooperative spirit that animates its members " 19:21 brendan flight was bumpy -- 19:21 pianohacker pykota looks very, very nice. 19:21 chris What do you think are the main strengths of Koha? 19:21 chris which google translate tells me is roughly 19:21 chris F.Démians : “Son inclusivité. La vraie richesse de Koha, c’est la communauté mondiale de ses utilisateurs et de ses développeurs, son ouverture à toute contribution, l’esprit de coopération qui anime ses membres†19:21 chris ohh i like this 19:20 sekjal hey, brendan. how was your flight? 19:17 brendan that kyle hall package for computer management IRC 19:17 brendan does libki do any print management? 19:16 chris_n that is the comes the closest to matching what we currently run 19:16 chris_n pianohacker: take a look at http://www.pykota.com/ 19:11 pianohacker Okay. Thanks 19:11 chris_n currently I'm on a proprietary package, but I'm in the process of moving to an FOSS package... hold on 19:10 pianohacker What do you use? 19:10 chris_n we do 19:10 pianohacker Does your school do any print management? Trying to find an open-source print management tool without success 19:09 chris_n here 19:07 pianohacker chris_n: around? 19:06 pianohacker What error did it give? 19:06 baseballfreak47 brb 19:05 baseballfreak47 i tried that and it didnt work any suggestions? 19:04 baseballfreak47 $ sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/ubuntu.packages 19:04 baseballfreak47 So im installing Koha on this computer with ubuntu using this site: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;h=69e7b6ac3b13a88e2ccdd85e1683794a7cdd9d47;hb=HEAD#l81 I have installed everything up to line 72 where it says, "Using the ubuntu.packages file included in the Koha source tree, 73 run the following: 18:57 chris ok breakfast time bbiab 18:55 chris with the help of google translate 18:55 chris http://docmiop.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/un-entretien-avec-les-societes-prestataires-autour-de-koha/ 18:55 * chris is reading 18:55 chris ahh sweet :) 18:55 chris_n I'm in the process of testing the merge of labels stuff into 3.2 18:54 chris thanks chris_n 18:52 chris_n chris: I'll be glad to 18:52 chris hdl_laptop: are you around? 18:49 jdavidb heheh...toddlers are so helpful! 18:49 chris jdavidb: yep trick is to get up before the household wakes up, that way i can grab a shower without a toddler trying to help 18:48 chris that reminds me, i have to edit the INSTALL file 18:48 chris i got some pretty decent performance increase, would like to see how others get on 18:48 chris btw chris_n .... if you are up for it, id be interested in some benchmarks from you before and after switching on memoize 18:48 jdavidb You're up early, chris. 18:47 chris and sorry abot that memcached thing, and thanks to Michael for fixing it 18:46 chris ohh ill have to try that 18:29 * chris_n notes the cool new progress indicator on stage-marc-import.pl 18:03 gmcharlt hi pianohacker 18:02 pianohacker Hi, chris_n, gmcharlt 18:01 chris_n hi pianohacker 18:01 chris_n tnx 18:01 chris_n gmcharlt: yup, that fixed it up 18:01 chris_n *groan* 17:40 Sharon Does the syspref TransfersMaxDaysWarning count business days or calendar days? 17:39 Sharon I just realized I asked a question in #kohakansas, thinking I was in here...no wonder I didn't get an answer! 17:30 * chris_n looks 17:30 gmcharlt ? 17:30 gmcharlt does that help 17:30 gmcharlt chris_n: check Michael's patch pushed yesterday 17:30 chris_n with the same config 17:29 chris_n 3.0 works fine... 3.2 blows chunks 17:29 chris_n gmcharlt: any thoughts on the Socket::pack_sockaddr_in weirdness I mention above? 17:28 gmcharlt chris_n: doesn't matter to me, really, although keeping them in there so that sysadmin knows that the option exists woudln't hurt 17:02 SelfishMan It's been a while since I've played with that bit of code though 17:02 SelfishMan The memcached stuff shouldn't matter 17:01 chris_n SelfishMan: it appears you are correct 17:01 chris_n gmcharlt: should koha-conf.xml contain tags for memcached_servers and memcached_namespace if memcached option is not selected during install? 16:55 schuster Coming back to "homebranch". 16:55 schuster Anybody else notice that when an item is checked in after a transfer is returned current location is not updating? 16:50 chris_n actually the config is correct 16:48 SelfishMan Not certain but I'm betting an address/IP is missing from the config 16:45 chris_n 3.0 works fine, 3.2 croaks with the above mentioned error 16:43 chris_n anyone know what weirdness this is? 16:42 chris_n mainpage.pl: Bad arg length for Socket::pack_sockaddr_in, length is 0, should be 4 at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Socket.pm line 214. 16:42 * chris_n has spent too many hours staring at the screen for his own good 16:41 chris_n never mind... 16:41 chris_n hold on 16:40 chris_n any thoughts? 16:40 chris_n gmcharlt: on a fresh install of 3.2 my browser says "production mode - trapped fatal error" and the logs say nothing... :-( 16:20 gmcharlt paul_p: no, it's fine 16:19 paul_p I realize my mail may let you think i'm upset. Just to be clear : that's not the case ! ;-) 16:19 paul_p lol 16:19 owen "cracking the whip" meaning urging him to work harder ;) 16:18 * gmcharlt cowers in fear 16:18 paul_p owen: ?? 16:18 owen Watch out gmcharlt, paul_p is cracking the whip! :) 15:44 kf we will try and see what happens :) - good bye #koha! 15:40 sekjal hello owen 15:40 owen Hi sekjal 15:34 kf gmcharlt: should we integrate janes changes in our file, although its not in git yet? she made xslt follow sysprefs in her patch 15:29 kf so we want to send it tomorrow (I hope I will be able to generate a patch file with git on my laptop...) 15:27 kf will this be a problem? I think we will write a bug report tomorrow - but we have a little time problem, because I will be on vacation from wednesday to wednesday 15:27 gmcharlt schuster: yes, there are a couple patches floating around that will be included 15:26 kf I saw that jane wagner send a patch on this file wich isnt in git yet 15:26 gmcharlt kf++ 15:26 kf question: we want to try to send our first patch tomorrow - changes in xslt for detail and results to display ltr/rtl languages in 880 fields 15:26 schuster Are sounds still part of 3.2 circ? 15:25 kf hi gmcharlt 15:25 jdavidb No one has yet proven that you're Michael Jackson's love child, gmcharlt, but the jury is still out on that. :P And yeah, there's the RDA thing. 15:25 gmcharlt :) 15:25 schuster I hear you are implementing RDA for 3.2 - :0 15:24 gmcharlt so, any juicy gossip about me that I should know about? ;) 15:20 gmcharlt heh 15:20 schuster (kidding sorta) 15:20 schuster gmcharlt - heya! we've been talking about you - ears burning? 15:20 gmcharlt hi jdavidb 15:20 jdavidb Hi, gmcharlt! 15:18 jdavidb The patrons are pretty sophisticated, too...they get twitchy about any oddities on that holds queue. 15:16 jdavidb On some new popular stuff, they're getting 20 and 30 copies, and running 150+ holds in the queue. 15:15 ecorrado I'm not surprised about the holds... my mom used to get them to hold the latest Steven King books before they came out and would be way down on the list. 15:14 ecorrado jdavidb: I haven't been there for a while, but they were always recognized by the public as the best librry in the area. 15:14 jdavidb 5000-ish circs a day, about 700 or so of which are holds fulfillment. It's amazing. 15:13 jdavidb They're good folks, really, and want the best for their patrons. I was astonished at how much holds traffic they have; they promoted use of holds a while back, and it caught on. 15:13 ecorrado I heard they were lookign at Koha a while back... glad to see they went that way. 15:12 ecorrado jdavidb: I gre up in the next town over and worked in a nearby library for a bit. I am aware of them :-). 15:12 jdavidb Knowing that we're not ever gonna get Koha to be Just Like Horizon, we've managed to give them some things that made them a bit more comfortable. 15:11 jdavidb ecorrado: Yup. That's them. They've apparently been Horizon users a long, long time, and are pretty set in their ways. 15:11 ecorrado jdavidb: East Brunswick as in East Brunswick, NJ? 15:08 * owen is picky that way 14:59 kf owen: looks nice now :) 14:54 * owen submits a patch to move the clear screen button: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=1090 14:53 jdavidb (So we'll have to maintain it. But I'm okay with that.) 14:53 jdavidb I pitched a fit about it, but that's what they wanted. Fortunately, probably, gmcharlt is gonna throw that one in the oubliette. 14:51 kf I think our data protection officer would say thats not acceptible 14:51 jdavidb No, unfortunately. Not for passwords, anyway. 14:50 kf they = there 14:50 kf are they no privacy laws that prevent that? 14:50 jdavidb kf: I'm with you. That's such a Spectacularly Bad Idea.... 14:48 kf and really odd to want that back 14:48 kf passwords in clear text is also a Horizon thing 14:31 jdavidb The patches we're doing--PTFS is very cognizant of the fact that EBPL is an odd library, and wants odd things. Most everything substantial we're sending, and quite a lot of the little tweaky ones, will have a syspref. 14:29 * owen should calm down about the button as it's controlled by a syspref 14:24 jdavidb jwagner as the filer, maybe? 14:23 schuster Ah - someone indicated that several of the PTFS enhancements were in bugzilla - is there an easy way for me to find them? 14:23 jdavidb One of ours, I think. an East Brunsick PL idea. (ex-Horizon, sure 'nuf.) 14:22 owen No schuster it was a recently approved patch 14:22 schuster In production that is. 14:22 schuster Must be in a newer patch as I don't have that yet. 14:21 brendan wasn't sure if I used it then either 14:20 brendan I remember the clear screen button from my horizon days 14:20 owen 1. Because it's ugly. 2. Because you can click "check out" with no barcode and get the same result 14:20 hdl_laptop a simple clear would have been much simpler.... I think 14:19 brendan hmmm... why's that owen? 14:19 * owen grumbles about the new "Clear screen" button on the circ page 14:19 hdl_laptop hi all 14:18 brendan morning owen 14:18 brendan coming to you from Atlanta 14:17 owen Coming to us from Atlanta, brendan? 14:11 jdavidb schuster++ 14:11 schuster I'll get them posted on the wiki and an email to Discuss hopefully today. 14:11 schuster I'm waiting for some tapes to be returned to me so that I can do the rest. 14:11 schuster http://www.archive.org/details/KohaconMysqlWithJoeAtzberger 14:10 schuster http://www.archive.org/details/Kohacon09Marcedit - I got these uploaded this weekend. 14:08 owen schuster++ for KohaCon videos! 14:02 jdavidb lol 14:02 munin jdavidb: Quote #22: "<jdavidb> owen: you wouldn't know this, being the skinny thing you are, but it is also good for maintaining a panoramic physique, like mine." (added by gmcharlt at 04:24 PM, August 06, 2009) 14:02 jdavidb @quote random 13:56 chris_n heh 13:56 munin chris_n: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009) 13:56 chris_n @quote random 13:56 munin chris_n: "light-speed": 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight; "koha": http://www.koha.org/ 13:56 chris_n @factoids random 13:54 owen schuster: he goes by atz, so it doesn't look like it 13:49 schuster Joe Atzberger around? 13:25 jdavidb Hi, schuster. :) 13:23 owen Hi schuster 13:17 schuster Morning everyone! 12:47 kf gmcharlt: online? 12:39 chris_n interesting post from eIFL.net 12:28 chris_n what a name to choose for an os 12:28 * chris_n notes how easy it is to break a window to start with 12:25 paul_p :D 12:25 paul_p shortest version: /me thinks win32 fails 12:21 chris_n that too 12:21 * jdavidb thinks win32 fails too often, period. 12:20 * chris_n thinks win32 fails silently too often >:-( 12:19 chris_n m$-- 12:19 jdavidb Hi, paul_p! :) 12:15 chris_n hi paul_p 12:15 jwagner Bonjour paul_p 12:14 paul_p hello USA ! good morning ! 12:11 jdavidb Morning, chris_n. 12:10 chris_n g'morning 12:10 chris_n how very mondayish 12:09 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 22.0�C (8:02 AM EDT on August 31, 2009). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 12:09 chris_n @wunder 28334 12:03 jwagner morning/g'night chris 11:57 jdavidb g'night, chris. Sleep well! 11:57 jdavidb Probably so, yeah. 11:57 chris g'night all 11:57 chris must mean its time for me to go to sleep 11:57 jdavidb Howdy, chris and Amit. :) 11:56 Amit hi jdavidb 11:56 chris morning ptfs 09:36 chris yep have done 09:35 bigbrovar chris: might want to add the koha logo :) 09:31 chris for anyone who uses identica http://identi.ca/group/koha 09:18 Amit hdl: i have done but stuck on plugin 09:18 hdl_laptop Amit: it seems that you should drop a message to koha-devel or to biblios.net forum ;) 09:17 Amit any one experience with biblios.net 09:17 bigbrovar hello guys 09:16 |Lupin| hello Amit 09:16 bigbrovar . 08:28 kf hi Amit 08:24 Amit hi lupin, kf 08:20 kf guten morgen lupin 08:19 |Lupin| guten morgen kf 08:19 |Lupin| good morning, everybody 08:17 chris hi Amit 08:16 Amit hi chris, brendan 08:13 nahuel :) 08:11 chris http://www.oftc.net/oftc/ 08:10 nahuel ho great 08:08 chris http://www.spi-inc.org/projects 08:08 chris http://www.spi-inc.org/ 08:06 nahuel SPI ? what's that ? 08:06 nahuel Well, it's just an idea :) 08:06 chris speciallyf if we were to join SPI also 08:06 chris oftc might be an option 08:04 nahuel was were ... anyway :p 08:04 nahuel "there were" 08:04 nahuel hmmm, as I know biblibre and koha-fr gone to freenode because when I arrived at biblibre, there was lots of downtime 08:03 chris less than freenode 08:03 chris with very very few outages 08:03 nahuel with downtimes :) 08:03 chris irc.katipo.co.nz has been running for 12 years 08:03 nahuel less stable ? 08:02 chris but more generic 08:02 chris less stable 08:02 chris hehe 08:02 nahuel more generic 08:02 nahuel More stable :) 08:02 chris why? 08:02 nahuel Why don't we go to freenode ? 08:01 hdl_laptop i think 08:01 hdl_laptop chris: nahuel was asking about the #koha problem 07:55 paul_p hi chris 07:52 chris hi paul_p 07:52 chris hmm just the usual i mean 07:52 chris not the usual ... what's up with you? 07:48 nahuel what's up ? 07:47 chris hi nahuel 07:44 chris hasnt been a compelling reason to move it 07:44 nahuel :) 07:44 nahuel hi all 07:44 chris its been on here since 2000 07:36 SelfishMan true 07:36 hdl_laptop there are pros and cons on either side 07:36 SelfishMan good or bad? 07:35 SelfishMan ? 07:35 hdl_laptop SelfishMan: History 07:35 kf good morning 07:35 SelfishMan Any reason this channel isn't on one of the bigger networks like OFTC? 07:34 SelfishMan heh 07:31 chris and we are back 03:18 bigbrovar_ thnx .. how is your day going btw (4:17am here .. raining as hell) 03:17 bigbrovar_ will google it 03:17 bigbrovar_ Marcedit ? 03:16 bigbrovar_ hmm 03:07 pianohacker (runs under Wine) 03:07 pianohacker MarcEdit is what you want 03:07 pianohacker There are import tools 03:07 pianohacker Hmm. If you export the spreadsheet as CSV 03:06 bigbrovar_ (real koha / library system noob here) 03:06 bigbrovar_ Hi guys am really new to koha (or in fact any library system) helping to setup one for my school's library. I have everything setup and running now ( koha 3.0). before i installed koha, the library kept a record of their books in openoffice spreadsheets..its a PITA slow process but over time there have a huge collection now (we have small library) i was wondering if its possible to import this spreedsheet to koha.. of do they have to import the books one by 02:21 munin chris_n2-away: 35 miles per gallon = 700 rods per US cup 02:21 chris_n2-away @gcalc 35 miles per gallon in rods per cup 02:21 chris_n2-away one more for the record.... 02:20 * chris_n2-away heads to off to a sleep cycle 02:19 munin chris_n2-away: "light-speed" could be 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight 02:19 chris_n2-away @whatis light-speed 02:19 munin chris_n2-away: "light-speed": 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight; "koha": http://www.koha.org/ 02:19 chris_n2-away @factoids random 02:19 munin chris_n2-away: The operation succeeded. 02:19 chris_n2-away @factoids learn light-speed as 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight 02:17 chris_n2-away g'night gmcharlt 02:17 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 02:17 gmcharlt @later tell hdl_laptop back only middle of Monday US EDT 02:17 munin chris_n2-away: (factoids learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. 02:17 chris_n2-away @factoids learn the speed of light = 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight 02:17 gmcharlt g'night, all 02:17 gmcharlt heh 02:17 munin gmcharlt: "koha": http://www.koha.org/ 02:17 gmcharlt @factoids random 02:17 chris_n2-away s/factoid/factoids/ 02:16 munin gmcharlt: "koha" could be http://www.koha.org/ 02:16 gmcharlt @whatis koha 02:16 munin gmcharlt: I suck 02:16 gmcharlt @factoid random 02:16 munin gmcharlt: Key "koha" is not locked and has 1 factoid associated with it: #1 was added by gmcharlt at 02:16 AM, August 31, 2009 02:16 gmcharlt @info koha 02:16 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 02:16 gmcharlt @learn koha as http://www.koha.org/ 02:16 munin chris_n2-away: the speed of light = 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight 02:16 chris_n2-away @gcalc speed of light in furlongs per fortnight 02:16 munin gmcharlt: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. 02:16 gmcharlt @learn koha http://www.koha.org/ 02:16 chris_n2-away hehe 02:16 munin gmcharlt: Error: No factoid matches that key. 02:16 gmcharlt @info koha 02:16 gmcharlt info koha 02:16 munin gmcharlt: (info [<channel>] <key>) -- Gives information about the factoid(s) associated with <key>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 02:15 gmcharlt @help info 02:14 munin gmcharlt: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". 02:14 munin chris_n2-away: Error: I couldn't find a factoid. 02:14 gmcharlt @random Factoid 02:14 chris_n2-away @factoids random 02:14 munin gmcharlt: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". 02:14 gmcharlt @random 02:14 chris_n2-away ahh 02:13 munin gmcharlt: change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, search, unlock, and whatis 02:13 gmcharlt @list Factoids 02:13 munin gmcharlt: Error: 'Factoid' is not a valid plugin. 02:13 gmcharlt @list Factoid 02:13 munin gmcharlt: Error: There is no command "factoid". 02:13 gmcharlt @help Factoid 02:13 chris_n2-away hrmm 02:13 munin chris_n2-away: downloading the Perl source 02:13 chris_n2-away @factoid random 02:13 chris_n2-away opps 02:13 munin chris_n2-away: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". 02:13 chris_n2-away @random factoid 02:13 munin gmcharlt: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) 02:13 brendan ok flight -- lot's of turbulence 02:13 gmcharlt @quote random 02:12 munin chris_n2-away: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". 02:12 chris_n2-away @random quote 02:12 gmcharlt brendan: good flight? 02:01 brendan done traveling for the night :) 01:56 chris :) 01:56 * chris_n2-away realizes that the ISS could cross the USA in ~1/2 sec 01:55 munin chris_n2-away: 7 688.92 miles = 12 374.1173 kilometers 01:55 chris_n2-away @gcalc 7688.92 miles in kilometers 01:17 munin chris: 120 kilometers = 74.5645431 miles 01:16 chris @gcalc 120km in miles 01:16 munin chris: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. 01:16 chris @gcalc 120kmph in mph