Time  Nick              Message
00:20 chris_n-2nd       gmcharlt: is it my computer or does git cherry-pick crawl?
01:55 gmcharlt          chris_n-2nd: yeah, cherry-pick can be a little slwo
01:56 chris_n           well with a mere 100 commits to go, I'll be here for breakfast... :-/
10:11 |Lupin|           hi
10:11 cait              hi
10:57 greenmang0        @wunder mumbai
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11:11 |Lupin|           @wunder Paris, France
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11:18 cait              @wunder Konstanz
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13:49 chris_n           @wunder Kill Devil Hills, NC
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14:29 |Lupin|           @wunder Paris, France
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14:30 |Lupin|           @wunder Konstanz
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14:32 |Lupin|           @wunder Konstanz, Germany
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17:17 jdavidb           Hi, pianohackr. :)
17:17 pianohackr|work   Hi, davd
18:05 chris_n           pianohackr|work on Saturday?
18:05 pianohackr|work   Yup, at the library.
18:06 pianohackr|work   You?
18:07 chris_n           at home, but cherry-picking the new labels code into 3.2 head
18:07 pianohackr|work   Very nice
18:08 chris_n           I had a couple of conflicts, but nothing too bad so far (knock on wood)
18:10 chris_n           'git cherry-pick -e commitish..commitish' would be very nice
18:10 chris_n           doing it one at a time is verrry slooow :-(
18:11 chris_n           I attempted to whip up a quick perl script to do it, but w/o success
18:15 gmcharlt          chris_n: may be a bit late, but perhaps a simple git-merge may have saved you time, unless you had a bunch of other commits mixed in your branch
18:15 chris_n           actually no others, just label work
18:16 chris             it was from 3.0.x though right?
18:16 chris_n           I did read about 'git rebase -i -into' ?
18:16 chris             id expect a merge to go badly from 3.0.x to master
18:16 gmcharlt          ah - yeah, if was originally developed in 3.0, would have been a more complicated merge
18:16 chris_n           yes, but I setup a separate repo for 3.2 and added my 3.0.x repo as a remote
18:16 chris             rebase into may have worked tho .. but id expect conflicts with that
18:16 chris_n           chris: its working like a charm
18:16 gmcharlt          though not necessarily *that* bad, since most of the labels code is relatively self-contained
18:17 chris_n           that's it, nobody has messed with labels code for a while
18:17 chris             its more the rest of 3.0.x
18:17 * gmcharlt        really has his work cut out for him tomorrow and over the next few days
18:17 chris             which youd get with a merge
18:17 gmcharlt          yeah, isolating that could be hard
18:17 chris             that i was worried about
18:17 * chris_n         emphasizes if it is all this slow
18:18 gmcharlt          chris_n: not the git work, the testing, really
18:18 chris_n           what about the "rebase -into" interactively?
18:18 chris_n           the git guru's seemed to like that for doing things like this
18:19 chris             i just went for cherry-picking cos its safest :) you shoudl/could try rebase -into as well
18:20 * chris_n         knocks off 75 of 117 commits... :-P
18:20 chris_n           http://git.foundations.edu/?p=koha.labels_recon;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/labels.recon
18:22 gmcharlt          chris_n: and then you get to play with git rebase --interactive to squash patches, /me says hopefully? ;)
18:22 chris_n           yeah, I will squash it a bit
18:22 gmcharlt          chris_n++
18:22 chris_n           I ran through it on a test branch and got it down to 45 -50 commits
18:23 chris_n           I figured the merge w/3.2 would go better in smaller chunks if there were real issues
18:23 * gmcharlt        puts on dunce cap, finally realizes genesis of your old nick 'fbcit'
18:23 gmcharlt          Foundations Bible College IT, right?
18:23 chris_n           hehe
18:24 chris_n           right
18:26 chris_n           too bad there is not a way to pass objects between cgi script calls
18:27 chris             there is
18:27 chris             memcached
18:27 chris_n           I've seen your patches, but havn't had time to examine the memcached thing in detail
18:27 * gmcharlt        idly wonders if there's a CGI::Session::Memcached
18:28 * gmcharlt        whistles innocently
18:28 chris             we store sessions in memcached
18:28 chris             at work
18:29 chris_n           I could reduce db calls even more if I could pass things like the batch object from call to call and then call to the db once for read or write
18:29 chris             yep
18:29 chris_n           chris: so memcached can do this sort of thing heh?
18:29 chris             chris_n: at work we cache objects (serialised) into memcached
18:29 * chris_n         feels a further code re-factor coming on... :-S
18:30 chris             gmcharlt: looks like that module exists
18:30 chris             chris_n: we also cache html code fragments (rendered templates) and then entire pages into memcached
18:31 chris_n           chris: that must really make things fly
18:31 chris             yep
18:32 chris             the application is in contorl of the cache too, rather than a normal caching proxy
18:33 chris_n           cool
18:33 chris             so when the editprs publish we can have it show up immediatley
18:33 chris_n           I'll definitely take a look at memcached next week
18:33 * chris_n         looks for his store of spare time
18:34 chris_n           it looks like with CGI::Session::Driver::memcached we could take the session data out of the db?
18:36 chris_n           chris: which memcached module are you using?
18:40 chris             at work? Cache::FastMemcached
18:43 chris             http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=lib/Koha/DataObject.pm;h=c9212f9587a6a80af6eca56029d07ff4831ad270;hb=4f6b53948e49e753904ad69cf4adcb1e9378db53
18:44 chris             this was my work for providing a base class of cachable objects for koha
18:44 chris             then you have something like
18:44 chris             http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=lib/Koha/DataObject/Borrower.pm;h=8acfaac9cdf0acd32f88705b8327946ed3dec66f;hb=4f6b53948e49e753904ad69cf4adcb1e9378db53
18:46 chris             http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=rest/borrowers/single_borrower.pl;h=3c3fbfadc060ba0c0d4c8738ff8409e42ddcdb5e;hb=4f6b53948e49e753904ad69cf4adcb1e9378db53
19:14 * pianohackr|work hopes he didn't misunderstand some Selenium issue in his response to hdl
19:16 * chris_n         comes back from troubleshooting the dog's invisible fence
19:27 chris_n           chris: nice work; any examples of writing the modified cached object back to the db? (or did I miss it)
19:31 chris             we always right to the db
19:32 chris             write even
19:36 chris             we create an obect from the db, store it in the cache ... subsequent scripts just get it from the cache, ... we change something save to db, invalidate cache
19:36 chris             and the next script that needs it, fetches from db, stores in cache .. rinse and repeat
19:38 chris_n           write
19:38 chris_n           err.. right
19:39 chris             :)
19:39 chris             big chunks of koha, change very little, if we had a preferences object ... it could pretty much live in the cache
19:40 chris             and whenever a syspref is changed, we drop it from the cache
19:40 * chris_n         does agree that sysprefs seem to be a *big* chunk of koha ;-)
19:41 chris             a bunch of really fast selects, but it builds up the ambient load
19:41 chris             so if you had essentially a cached hashref
19:42 chris             you remove a bunch of noise from the db
19:42 chris_n           I bet if we could eliminate even only the duplicate selects from the db things would speed up dramatically
19:42 chris             issuing rules is another one
19:42 chris             we fetch that everytime we issue a book
19:43 chris_n           another thing I noticed while working on labels is the times we fetch more data than we need
19:43 pianohackr|work   If you changed MAIN,*,*, you'd have to invalidate the cache for everything below MAIN, but caching issuingrules could be useful
19:44 pianohackr|work   chris_n: Such as GetBranches?
19:44 chris_n           one call in the labels code retrieved the xml blob and never used it and for each item in the batch
19:46 chris             pianohackr|work: yep, but most libraries set and forget issuingrules
19:46 chris             its not something you change often
19:46 pianohackr|work   True.
19:46 pianohackr|work   You could really cache everything under admin
19:46 chris_n           s/xml blob/marc xml blob/
19:46 chris             *nod*
19:47 chris             select *
19:47 chris_n           heh
19:47 chris             far too many of those
19:48 pianohackr|work   Caching parsed versions of notices might speed up that
19:50 chris             there are chunks of html we could cache too
19:50 pianohackr|work   Though that might depend on a smarter templating system
19:50 chris             i started on that with the template toolkit stuff
19:50 pianohackr|work   Which is a whole other ball of wax
19:50 chris             yeah
19:51 chris_n           "SELECT bi.*, i.*, b.* FROM items AS i, biblioitems AS bi ,biblio AS b WHERE itemnumber=? AND i.biblioitemnumber=bi.biblioitemnumber AND bi.biblionumber=b.biblionumber";
19:51 chris_n           a classic
19:52 chris_n           (SELECT *)^3
19:54 chris             http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=lib/Template/Plugin/Koha/Cache.pm;h=64e6d5d1cb20244c75b4ad65a3b782a66ac41323;hb=4f6b53948e49e753904ad69cf4adcb1e9378db53
19:55 chris             heh, that is pretty special
19:55 pianohackr|work   Better get ready to go. Bye, Chris and Chris
19:55 chris             cya pianohackr|work
19:56 chris_n           I trimmed it down a bit in the rewrite
19:56 chris             :)
19:57 chris_n           there are actually a number of other improvements/enhancements I'd like to do with the labels stuff, but they'll have to wait
19:58 chris_n           I should have looked more seriously at caching objects when I started out, but I'm still on the learning curve for some of this
20:08 chris             we'll get there
20:09 chris             i figure 3.2.0 will be a big feature release, then we can do lots of little performance improvement releases
20:09 chris             before the next feature release
20:35 chris_n           hi hdl_laptop
20:41 hdl_laptop        hi chris_n
20:44 chris             working late hdl_laptop ... more integration work?
20:44 hdl_laptop        hehe... Nope. Just buying sthg online ;)
20:48 chris             :)
20:53 chris             im starting merging and shifting po files to 3.2
20:56 chris_n           merging and shifting to 3.2 seems to be the order of the day
20:56 * chris_n         also tracks the ISS and listens in to capcom comms
20:59 hdl_laptop        thx chris.
20:59 hdl_laptop        chris have you created Pos on reconciliation branch for 3.0.4 ?
21:00 chris             not yet
21:00 chris             is that stable enough now?
21:02 hdl_laptop        mmm I think so. But more test needed though
21:02 hdl_laptop        chris :  Have you seen my selenium test patch ?
21:02 hdl_laptop        I know you had done some.
21:03 chris             yep, had a quick look i will test them with selenium this week
21:03 hdl_laptop        Maybe it could be good to add those.
21:03 chris             mine are old 2.2.x ones
21:04 hdl_laptop        maybe the way they are written is just naive.
21:04 hdl_laptop        Still had no chance to see how to use a YUI + button with customized list.
21:05 hdl_laptop        Like New Member or New biblio record.
21:06 hdl_laptop        I think the best way to do that would be to Add a Click the select 1st element in list, But could not achieve that.
21:22 * chris_n         heads off to eat, bbl