Time Nick Message 23:57 nengard it appears to be the IF that is the problem 23:57 nengard thd sorry - was poking at something else 23:57 thd nengard: Did you close the file handle OUTFILE? 23:55 thd open( OUTFILE, "< /path/to/outfile" ) or die "Can't open $filename : $!"; 23:53 thd unless you have changed the Apache user from www-data for some reason such as security perhaps. 23:52 thd the directory where OUTFILE is supposed to be created should be writable by www-data 23:49 nengard btw if the code is: $template->param('OPACSearchForTitleIn' => C4::Context->preference("OPACSearchForTitleIn") ); it prints out the right thing - with the wrong links of course 23:48 nengard yes 23:48 thd Are you running a default Debian installation of Apache? 23:47 thd the directory where it should be created would need write permission of the webserver username. 23:47 nengard no 23:46 thd Is the OUTFILE ever created when runing the script? 23:44 thd the warnings command needs to be uncommented 23:44 nengard yep it's at the top of my file 23:44 thd use warnings; is at the top of many Perl scripts and far too much of Koha is filled with warnings problems 23:42 nengard not use warnings - i'll try that 23:42 nengard yeah I did that - open the file 23:42 thd nengard you may need to open OUTFILE for writing 23:41 thd at the top of the script 23:40 thd use waringings; 23:40 nengard guess not 23:40 nengard um 23:40 thd do you have warnings on? 23:40 nengard and try again when it's early and i'm fresh 23:40 nengard I may have to just quit for tonight 23:39 nengard thanks td - i was trying jane's method of printing to a file but it's not happening - in fact nothing is happening - it's freezing .... 23:39 thd nengard the print command will print to the console but not necessarily to the generated HTML page as it would in PHP. 23:29 nengard trying some things now 23:29 nengard thd thanks 23:27 thd also if $title and $author are undefined and not merely blank then the regex would fail. 23:26 thd but your regex should still work with newlines in the string 23:25 thd perhaps the problem may be newlines in $searchfortitlein 23:25 nengard k 23:24 thd you should print the contents of $searchfortitlein to make certain the text is there 23:23 thd wow 23:23 nengard it's never being processed 23:23 nengard thd that makes sense - but you should know that it's not that the links aren't working it's that they still say TITLE, AUTHOR or ISBN 23:22 thd perhaps you should URL escape $title and $author before the regex 23:21 thd or every case 23:21 thd the ISBN may need normalising in any case. 23:20 thd If your $title or author has spaces or other problem characters then they need to be escaped. 23:20 nengard I'll fix that 23:20 nengard normalized_isbn isn't in the *.pl - it's $isbn 23:20 nengard okay one problem 23:19 nengard thd, i've seen that in tmpl files, but where would it go in the pl file? 23:18 thd nengard: the problem which you may have is the need to URL escape the variable contents 23:18 thd Oh well they have common root words 23:17 jwagner Then after you go to the page calling the script, take a look at /tmp/out.txt. Brute force, but useful. 23:17 nengard thd that all programming languages are the same :) 23:17 nengard thanks jwagner, maybe i'll do that 23:17 thd what is not true? 23:17 jwagner print OUTFILE "Titlevar: $title\n" 23:17 nengard thd that is not true 23:16 thd all programming languages are the same 23:16 jwagner open(OUTFILE, ">/tmp/out.txt") || die "unable to open output file"; 23:16 jwagner nengard, to make sure I have values in the data, when there's a script running I have sometimes printed values to a temp file. For example: 23:16 thd real programmers use warn 23:16 nengard oh same as php :) 23:16 thd print $variable; 23:15 nengard ish 23:15 nengard oh good 23:15 thd I do see a problem 23:15 nengard i'm a php person 23:15 nengard what's the perl syntax to print those variables out? 23:14 thd Your regexes seem fine if $author, $title, and $normalized_isbn have some useful values. 23:12 nengard :) 23:12 thd OK, now I understand what is being done. 23:11 nengard to find it in other libraries 23:11 nengard basically this: href="http://worldcat.org/search?q=TITLE goes out to WorldCat and searches for the title you'll lookin at in Koha 23:10 nengard it's storing HTML for links that will search other catalogs 23:10 nengard I put that in the pastebin at the top 23:10 thd I know more about regular expressions than I know about some parts of Koha. 23:10 thd What does that system preference store? 23:08 nengard or it was supposed to be 23:08 nengard no it's the value of the system preference 23:07 thd Is $searchfortitlein the general keyword search string? 23:03 nengard what i'm trying to do is replace occurances of TITLE, AUTHOR and ISBN with the right variables before sending it to the template 23:03 nengard http://koha.pastebin.com/m2e150127 23:02 thd I seldom manage not to much up the syntax the first time 23:02 nengard :) hang on i'll paste some stuff for you - maybe it's just a missing ; and not a regex issue 23:01 thd the only way to learn anything 23:01 nengard and I'm learning Perl by doing :) 23:01 nengard I'm working on a patch 23:01 nengard thd - sounds like more than I have 23:01 thd well does writing a database with regexes and shell scripts count as expertise? 23:00 nengard :) 23:00 nengard any regex experts online? 21:59 chris enjoy the rest of your weekends 21:59 chris ok, off to storylines we go 21:52 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ 21:52 brendan :) 21:52 chris 24th brendan 21:50 brendan hmmm... go I rank anywhere for chatty people 21:49 chris heh 21:48 jwagner Or even three more lines! 21:48 jwagner Don't you agree? 21:48 jwagner Well, I guess I can manage two more lines. 21:46 chris its sunday stats day 21:46 chris :) 21:46 chris hmm 2 more lines and jwagner will move into 50th place on the most talky people on irc list 21:36 * jdavidb waves 21:34 jwagner I think it may be moving more easterly (across MD/DE and out to sea). 21:34 brendan hours 21:34 brendan oh joy -- that should get up here in a few 21:33 jwagner hi brendan. You're just spoiled. We have a marvellously fierce thunderstorm system moving through here. 21:33 brendan I'm in CT and this humidity is killing me :) 21:33 jdavidb I better hurry, or wizzyrea will catch me. 21:33 brendan heya jwagner 21:33 chris :) 21:32 jwagner Heh. I'm one ahead of jdavidb :-) At least in his current incarnation. 21:32 chris hey brendan 21:32 jdavidb Hiya, brendan! :) 21:32 brendan heya chris gmcharlt jdavidb 21:32 jdavidb gmcharlt++ 21:31 jdavidb Awesome! 21:31 chris http://www.ohloh.net/p/koha/contributors 21:31 chris that musta happened in the last week or so 21:30 chris ohhh gmcharlt has officially moved into 4th place 21:23 jdavidb Probably so, yeah. That'd be good to get. 21:22 gmcharlt I think at least some of that can be extracted from Zebra 21:21 jdavidb lol 21:20 chris assuming we could find out from zebra, how many items we have indexed, when it was last indexed etc 21:20 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #27 added. 21:20 gmcharlt @quote add <jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in close formation, beating the sky into submission.") 21:20 chris also a 'status' page in the intranet might be nice 21:20 munin jdavidb: The operation succeeded. Quote #26 added. 21:20 jdavidb @quote add <chris> as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt 21:19 chris error_handling++ 21:19 chris instead of just 'no results found' 21:19 chris i know that a lot of "why isnt my search working" questions would go away if when we tried to search and zebra wasnt running, we reported this 21:18 chris as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt 21:17 jdavidb ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in close formation, beating the sky into submission.") 21:17 chris yep 21:17 gmcharlt but regardless, using a component that specializes in search is a win 21:17 jdavidb I haven't done a whole lot of work with Evergreen, but it appears to me to be way too closely related to a helicopter. 21:16 gmcharlt Evergreen is an example of that IMO, actually 21:16 chris (thats what we ended up doing with stuff :-) .. im aware that wouldnt work for librarians :)) 21:16 gmcharlt heh - you'd be surprised 21:16 jdavidb 3. sounds like the easiest part of it. 21:15 gmcharlt and IMO, 3. steering people away from trying to write yet another crappy internal search engine 21:15 jdavidb When I was with the Unicorn library, I had so darn many index changes...if I'd have had to do it without the GUI, it'd have made a drinkin' man out of me. 21:15 chris :-) 21:15 chris i say we just get google to spider the catalog and use that 21:14 chris yep 21:14 jdavidb yeah. In either one, it's gonna be pretty arcane. 21:14 gmcharlt 2. abstraction layer for index configuration 21:14 gmcharlt 1. search engine abstraction layer 21:14 chris but its still pretty 'huh?' 21:14 gmcharlt it boils down to two needs 21:14 gmcharlt and same issue would apply for Solr 21:14 chris we could allow it to be reconfigured within koha 21:13 jdavidb (But I'm spoiled. Unicorn let you reconfigure it from the GUI.) 21:13 jdavidb I don't even mind the periodic-update quality of zebra, that much. Most of our clients are on 10-minute cycles, and find that mostly acceptable. My biggest grumpiness lives in the fact that you can't reconfigure it from within Koha, and it take some major tea-leaf reading to do it at *all*. 21:11 chris if we cant, then im open to a different indexing engine to accomplish that 21:11 chris then id be happy 21:11 chris if we could do realtime, or close to realtime updates of zebra ... or equally remove the need to 21:08 chris but we were throwing some pretty decent load its way 21:08 chris used to break lots 21:08 chris we used to use solr for stuff 21:07 jdavidb gmcharlt: Yah, if "we gotta have it anyway", that'd be one thing. 21:07 chris i contend zebra is faster for search (not our implementaton maybe) 21:07 gmcharlt it'd be one thing if Koha were itself a java web app 21:06 jdavidb I'm not a big fan of tomcat, either; I rassled with it some with DSpace. 21:05 gmcharlt yeah, solr itself provides another moving part 21:05 chris where lucene (and thus solr) beats zebra is on updates 21:05 chris we did look at lucene and plucene when looking at zebra, was before solr was able to do much 21:04 chris :) 21:04 chris im an equal opportunity hater 21:04 chris i do hate tomcat too tho 21:03 gmcharlt hi jdavidb 21:03 jwagner OK, thanks. I'll make a note about dropping that indicator check in the commit notes. If I ever GET that far, sigh. 21:03 jdavidb Hi, gmcharlt! :) 21:03 gmcharlt jwagner: fine with me 21:02 jdavidb Solr is just so darn fast, and has so few moving parts; it's pretty amazing. 21:01 jdavidb heh. me too. A few months ago--before March--I brought the idea up among some LL folk, and was *firmly* quashed, so I figured it was rank heresy to think that. 20:59 chris and i have an instinctual hatred for numeric error messages 20:59 chris naw, zebra is great when it works, its a bit blackboxy when it doesnt 20:54 jdavidb I was surprised by your response to nengard's facebook status; I thought I was the only heretic around here. 20:54 jdavidb Hi, chris! :) 20:52 chris hi jdavidb 20:47 chris id say crap data is the norm, not the exception 20:45 chris not from me 20:44 jwagner I think it is...too many sites with crappy data or people who have no idea what they're doing. Do you think there'd be any great objection if I removed that check? 20:42 gmcharlt that may well be a bit too sophisticated in practice 20:42 gmcharlt or related resources 20:42 gmcharlt jwagner: I suppose on the theory that if people consistently coded the 856 ind 2 correctly, you'd prefer to display just 852.*0 on the results list to include URLs that point directly to the resource, not alternative versions 20:38 jwagner (The 856 second indicator, that is, of course) 20:38 jwagner Too bad owen isn't online, but maybe someone else can answer. I'm fiddling with XSLT (again). Does anyone know why, in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl, there is a check for indicator 2 to be 0 before it will show the URL in the results list? There's no such check in the details xsl, and I can't see why it would be necessary in the results list. 20:29 chris nengard++ #weekend patches 20:29 chris helped tons with tuning postgres for stuff.co.nz 20:29 * gmcharlt has noticed that Pg has gotten rather less love from O'Reilly than MySQL 20:28 chris thats him 20:28 chris http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2006_May_18/ai_n26867259/ 20:28 chris hehe 20:28 gmcharlt Pg export to boot? tell me he's heading to the airport right now, please :) 20:28 pianohackr|work bbl 20:27 chris he spends significant amounts of each year in africa looking after big cats too 20:27 chris yep resident postgresql guru and cat lover 20:27 gmcharlt another fuzzball lover? 20:26 chris i should introduce you to mark at work 20:26 chris yep, always hard 20:26 gmcharlt I know I can't take any of them home - I have four, after all, but ... 20:26 chris ahhhh 20:25 gmcharlt just back from my weekly self-torture session (AKA visiting all of the homeless kitties) 20:22 pianohackr|work Good morning 20:22 chris morning gmcharlt and pianohackr|work 20:20 jwagner Hi to all! 20:20 pianohackr|work Hi, Galen 20:20 gmcharlt hi #koha 20:20 pianohackr|work Hola jwagner 20:20 chris hi jwagner 20:14 |Lupin| k, will see this on monday. good night everybody ! 20:11 |Lupin| anyone knows who is the drupal expert at biblibre, pls ? 20:02 chris she can't fix it either 20:02 chris yep 20:01 Shtirlits Tue Jul 7 04:57:41 NZST 2009 20:01 Shtirlits Nicole C. Engard 20:01 Shtirlits --- 20:01 Shtirlits the manual you want - each one works individually. 20:01 Shtirlits this issue - but for now you might just want to print the sections of 20:01 Shtirlits Okay - it looks like a bug in Plone :( I'll see what I find to solve 20:01 Shtirlits i suppose 20:01 chris as we don't have access to the site 20:00 chris unfortunately no one here can fix it 20:00 Shtirlits yea, thats what the mailing list say 20:00 Shtirlits oookay 20:00 chris yeah it's currently broken 19:59 |Lupin| good evening 19:58 Shtirlits okay, at least I found a thread about it in the mailing list archive 19:54 Shtirlits i use chrome 19:54 Shtirlits thats why i was searching for premade 19:54 Shtirlits images show as broken links 19:54 Shtirlits it doesn't show images 19:54 Shtirlits well 19:53 pianohackr|work Shtirlits: Here's the link: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/referencemanual-all-pages (but do not click on it unless you have some time for it to load) 19:52 Shtirlits hmmm mailing list 19:52 pianohackr|work PDF, not sure, but there was a recent post to the mailing list detailing how to download the whole thing in one shot 19:52 brendan just the web stuff 19:51 brendan I don't think you can get it as a pdf 19:51 Shtirlits guys, anybody know where u can get koha 3.0 manual as a pdf or something? 19:51 pianohacker All great fun 19:51 pianohacker Not really. Trying to figure out why our little NAS isn't responding, trying to set up remote access for another client and failing 19:50 brendan up to anything fun? 19:50 brendan heya pianohacker 19:50 pianohacker Good afternoon, brendan 19:49 brendan good afternoon #koha 12:58 munin Shtirlits: Error: No such location could be found. 12:58 Shtirlits @wunder copenhagen 12:06 munin greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0�C (5:10 PM IST on August 22, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 12:06 greenmang0 @wunder mumbai 09:55 |Lupin| bye everybody 09:55 |Lupin| gotta go 09:25 baseballfreak47 c ya 09:25 baseballfreak47 im rebooting cuz im upgrading the ram on my comp 09:24 baseballfreak47 Washington 09:24 baseballfreak47 Im in the US 09:24 baseballfreak47 oh cool Poland 09:24 baseballfreak47 haha im back 09:21 Ropuch Well, good luck then with all your tty's ;> 09:21 Ropuch Me? I'm in Poland 09:20 baseballfreak47 Ropuch: Im gonna go hang out with my sister ttyl 09:20 baseballfreak47 jw where r u? 09:19 baseballfreak47 or maybe im so tired i cant tell that im tired 09:19 baseballfreak47 surprisingly im not tired 09:19 baseballfreak47 lol 09:18 Ropuch Or tired, but it's your choice ;> 09:18 baseballfreak47 im clueless 09:18 Ropuch hehehe 09:18 baseballfreak47 lol 09:18 baseballfreak47 oh wow i totally didnt realize it switched people 09:17 Ropuch I believe that was adressed to chris ;> 09:17 baseballfreak47 well have funn with your family 09:16 baseballfreak47 oh haha 09:16 Ropuch Frankly i did'nt notice 09:15 baseballfreak47 as you can see i also cant spell 09:15 baseballfreak47 oh haha 09:15 Ropuch Insomniacs start past 5am ;> 09:14 baseballfreak47 i think i might have some insomniac tendencys haha 09:14 baseballfreak47 its 2:15 am where i am 09:14 baseballfreak47 wow 09:14 Ropuch Depends of "there", 11:14 a.m. here ;> 09:13 baseballfreak47 jw what time is it there? 09:13 baseballfreak47 thank you for your help 09:13 baseballfreak47 idk 09:13 * chris wanders off for some family time 09:13 chris hmm, im sorry i have to go now, but have you done the tar xzvf line? 09:11 baseballfreak47 after the line that starts with cd 09:11 baseballfreak47 it tells me no such file 09:10 chris the sudo dpkg line 09:09 baseballfreak47 then... 09:09 baseballfreak47 so i type in cd koha-3.00.02 and press return 09:08 baseballfreak47 gotcha 09:08 baseballfreak47 oh i see 09:08 chris run that command 09:08 chris no, not on the same line 09:08 chris do that line, hit return 09:08 baseballfreak47 $ cd koha-3.00.02 sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/ubuntu.packages 09:07 baseballfreak47 put that before the line 09:07 baseballfreak47 what do i do with that? (Im totally over my head here thanks for the help) 09:07 chris cd koha-3.00.02 09:07 chris right so 09:06 baseballfreak47 $ wget http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.02.tar.gz 09:04 chris how did you download koha? 09:04 chris no 09:03 baseballfreak47 must be wrong didnt work 09:03 baseballfreak47 ? 09:02 |Lupin| chris: ah I see. 09:02 baseballfreak47 so it should look like $ cd sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/ubuntu.packages 09:02 chris then run that line again 09:01 chris baseballfreak47: right cd into there first 09:01 chris |Lupin|: there might be images or urls hardcoded in the js or css, not sure though 09:01 baseballfreak47 yes i have 09:01 chris have you downloaded koha (either via git, or got a tarball) ? 09:00 chris nope thats not right 09:00 |Lupin| baseballfreak47: ./install_misc/ubuntu.packages 09:00 |Lupin| baseballfreak47: as a ./ infront of the command 09:00 |Lupin| chris: when you mentionned js, what did you mean ? Is there something else than <script > to think about ? 08:59 baseballfreak47 so i did that and it told me "bash: install_misc/ubuntu.packages: No such file or directory" 08:59 baseballfreak47 oh okay 08:58 chris anything starting with $ means do it at the commandline 08:58 baseballfreak47 oh okay thanks 08:58 chris but the rest 08:58 chris not the $ 08:58 chris yes 08:58 baseballfreak47 so right after the # 75 where it says $ sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/ubuntu.packages do i put that into the command box? 08:57 chris cool 08:57 |Lupin| chris: k, written what you said. I may work on this. 08:57 baseballfreak47 um let me try to make it more direct 08:57 baseballfreak47 haha 08:56 chris hmmm not sure i can do much more than repeat that im afraid 08:56 baseballfreak47 and im a little confused if someone coulld give me a hand that would be great 08:55 baseballfreak47 Choose [I]nstall and accept packages to be installed (hit return) 82 83 (may take a while) 84 85 Choose [C]onfigure, [R]emove and [Q]uit until dselect has 08:54 baseballfreak47 and this is what it tells me, " 72 Using the ubuntu.packages file included in the Koha source tree, 73 run the following: 74 75 $ sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/ubuntu.packages 76 77 Now start dselect (you may need to 'sudo apt-get install dselect'): 78 79 $ sudo dselect 80 81 Choose [I]nstall and accept pac 08:54 baseballfreak47 so im using a step by step to install koha on ubuntu 08:54 baseballfreak47 okay srry i just didnt want to interupt thanks for the tip 08:54 chris just ask it baseballfreak47 ... irc is best when you just ask the question rather than asking to ask :) 08:53 baseballfreak47 hey guys i have a ? when you get a chance 08:53 chris assuming baseurl was what C4::Auth passes 08:52 |Lupin| chris: /me takes notes :-) 08:51 baseballfreak47 hey guys quick question 08:51 chris they would all need to become "<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="baseurl" -->/cgi-bin/koha/something.pl" 08:50 chris ie /cgi-bin/koha/something.pl for eg 08:50 chris the links are absolute 08:50 chris nope, doesnt really work like that 08:50 |Lupin| chris: k 08:50 chris and script and js 08:50 |Lupin| (I wondering whether it wouldn't be possible to associate a base URL to each template with respect to which all the otherws would be interpreted... ? 08:49 chris probably all the <img ones 08:49 |Lupin| chris: apart the <a > tags, what else should be modfied ? 08:49 |Lupin| chris: yeah that's what I had in mind 08:48 chris using sed 08:47 chris yeah that could be 08:47 |Lupin| chris: no, I meant automating the modificaiton of the templates 08:46 chris or automated changing the templates? 08:46 |Lupin| chris: I assume the situation is almost similar for the intranet ? 08:46 chris (automated using mod_rewrite you mean?) 08:46 |Lupin| chris: ok 08:46 chris nope 08:45 |Lupin| chris: ok. and do you think it could be automated, at least partly ? 08:45 chris yes it is achievable using mod_rewrite 08:45 chris but 99% of the work would be at the template level 08:45 |Lupin| actually I'd really need this feature... I assume it is not possible to achieve the same result by means of apache rerite rules or so 08:45 chris so that the value is passed to all the templates 08:44 chris and a few lines of change to C4::Auth 08:44 chris lots at the template level 08:44 chris yes 08:44 |Lupin| chris: ok. What kind of modificaiton is required ? I assume it's not at the template level, is it ? 08:44 chris lots of work, no one is planning to do it afaik 08:43 |Lupin| chris: and do you know what the plans are regarding this ? is there a lot of work to do to achieve this state ? is someone responsible of it ? 08:43 chris someone would have to go through and add it 08:42 |Lupin| chris: ok 08:42 chris only the new feature does 08:42 chris no 08:42 |Lupin| chris: ok, but assuming the syspref is given a value, would all the URLs generated in OPAC take this value into account ? 08:42 chris but i can see lots of uses of it 08:42 chris im not sure it was ever used in the code 08:41 |Lupin| i.e. it was there, then it was removed, then restored. It this the correct story ? 08:41 chris well its being used in once place in the code now 08:41 |Lupin| so it's back you mean, right ? 08:41 |Lupin| oh it's so great 08:40 chris as of about a week ago 08:40 chris yep, it is being used now 08:39 |Lupin| chris: however last time I checked the opacBaseURL feature was not working. Roughly speaking the only reference to it I could find was its definition and it was not used anywhere else in the code 08:38 |Lupin| chris: ok, good to know 08:37 chris that depends on it 08:37 chris there is a new feature, to show a preview of the opac (in the intranet, so staff can see what an item would look like) 08:37 chris aahh the opacBaseURL one won't be removed 08:37 |Lupin| chris: there was a bug report about the system prererences calles something like opacBaseURL and intranetBaseURL, it is planned to remove them completely. I can't remember the bug number and have no access to the machine where it is stored. I added a comment to it and I'm wondering what your opinion is abut this... 08:35 |Lupin| k 08:27 chris nope, not until october 08:27 |Lupin| chris: it's winter for you I guess, so no vacation ? 08:27 |Lupin| chris: yes, till monday 08:26 chris still on vacation |Lupin| ? 08:26 |Lupin| hello chris 07:49 chris hi 07:27 |Lupin| hi there 06:49 Ropuch Morning 05:52 baseballfreak47 okay so i need some help any one there? 05:31 baseballfreak47 oh my goodness thank you SO MUCH 05:30 baseballfreak47 oh okay thanks 05:30 brendan those should help you out 05:30 brendan http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;h=69e7b6ac3b13a88e2ccdd85e1683794a7cdd9d47;hb=HEAD 05:30 baseballfreak47 brendan: you there? 05:28 baseballfreak47 idk what that means 05:28 baseballfreak47 Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory 05:25 baseballfreak47 i got it to start 05:25 baseballfreak47 oh now your over my head 05:25 brendan ok cool :) 05:25 brendan then edit the /etc/sudoers file 05:24 brendan su - root 05:24 baseballfreak47 thanks 05:24 baseballfreak47 i knew that my bad 05:24 brendan so you'll need to use the sudo command -- 05:24 brendan sudo apt-get install 05:24 baseballfreak47 any suggestions 05:23 baseballfreak47 hey real quick so i type that into the terminal and it says, "Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?" 05:23 brendan once you download koha -- there should be an install file that appears in the koha dir 05:22 brendan sure -- I'd go ahead and review the ubuntu install instructions 05:22 baseballfreak47 so once i install mysql download koha will it tell me what to do? 05:21 baseballfreak47 haha thats easy enough thanks 05:21 brendan apt-get install mysql-server 05:21 baseballfreak47 and then for mysql? 05:21 baseballfreak47 already got that haha i googled it 05:21 brendan apt-get install apache2 05:20 brendan koha is built on a LAMP stack -- linux apache mysql perl 05:20 baseballfreak47 okay thanks 05:20 brendan you need mysql and you need apache 05:20 brendan perl should already come as part of linux 05:20 baseballfreak47 srry real quick do i need apache mysql and pearl or just one? 05:19 baseballfreak47 ubuntu 05:18 brendan hey baseballfreak47 which type of Linux you on? 05:17 baseballfreak47 hey could someone walk me through installing mysql 05:02 baseballfreak47 pianohacker1: you on? 04:59 baseballfreak47 i switched hd and lost it 04:59 baseballfreak47 I was wondering if someone could give me the command to instal apache again 04:59 baseballfreak47 hey 03:12 pianohacker1 Good night 02:29 pianohacker1 It'd be like trying to change a tire on a bike while you were riding it 02:28 baseballfreak47 wait srry on your last thing what do you mean? 02:28 pianohacker1 Not a problem, happy to help 02:28 baseballfreak47 THANK YOU SO MUCH i would be lost without you guys 02:28 pianohacker1 Good luck 02:28 pianohacker1 Just remembered that you do _not_ want to resize your Ubuntu partition when you're booted into that same Ubuntu 02:28 baseballfreak47 okay so put in my ubuntu install disk and go to administration ill go do that and be back in a bit 02:27 baseballfreak47 okay thanks 02:27 pianohacker1 But Apache's done 02:27 pianohacker1 (There's other Koha install stuff, yes) 02:27 pianohacker1 You'd want to resize the partitions using your installation CD (when you've booted up the CD, there's a Partition Editor in System -> Administration ) 02:26 baseballfreak47 srry back to apache real quickis there anything else i need to do after that? 02:26 baseballfreak47 oh ok 02:26 baseballfreak47 okay thanks 02:26 pianohacker1 Actually, nevermind 02:25 pianohacker1 Might also be called gparted 02:25 pianohacker1 From Applications -> Add/Remove Programs 02:25 baseballfreak47 lol your fine 02:25 pianohacker1 (sorry, distracted) 02:25 pianohacker1 You can install a partition editor 02:25 baseballfreak47 :) 02:22 baseballfreak47 so i have ubuntu installed on the same hd as windows xp and when ubuntu did the partitionaing it gave windows 50gb and ubuntu 7 mb more than it needed for install how do i fix this? 02:21 pianohacker1 Shoot 02:21 baseballfreak47 okay random questiopn here 02:21 pianohacker1 Yup 02:21 baseballfreak47 wow that wwas easy 02:20 baseballfreak47 oh okay thanks 02:20 pianohacker1 Sorry, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal 02:20 pianohacker1 Okay, so it's easy. Go to Applications -> Accessories -Open a Terminal, then type in "sudo apt-get install apache2" (without the quotes), then hit Enter 02:19 baseballfreak47 if you dont want to right now thats fine 02:19 baseballfreak47 ubuntu 02:19 baseballfreak47 yes 02:19 pianohacker1 Umm, perhaps. Do you have linux installed? 02:19 baseballfreak47 do you think ou could walk me through installing apache 02:18 pianohacker1 Hello 02:18 baseballfreak47 Hey piano hacker 02:12 baseballfreak47 Hello I was wondering if someone could walk me through installing apache i cant sem to figure it out