Time Nick Message 12:00 Amit hi jwagner, jdavidb 12:11 jdavidb Howdy, Amit! :) 12:12 gmcharlt hi jwagner, jdavidb, Amit 12:12 Amit hi galen 12:12 jdavidb Hiya, gmcharlt. 12:13 jwagner Hi everyone 12:13 Amit heya jwagner 12:13 jdavidb gmcharlt: Remember that squirrely indexing problem I was having yesterday? Got it licked. 12:13 gmcharlt jdavidb: cool - what was the problem? 12:14 jdavidb This site had self-converted from some other system. Rather than rearrange holdings fields to match Koha's "map" of 952 fields, they rearranged the map. Which, since it'sl all table-based, worked just fine--until I reinstalled default indexing. 12:15 jdavidb Barcode, itype, and about 9 other things were not in the fields that record.abs was expecting. 12:15 gmcharlt yeah, that would do it 12:15 gmcharlt that part of the config needs to be coming from one source 12:16 jdavidb So, reconciling record.abs to what is in the map solved the issue, after a reindex. 12:21 schuster Morning all! 12:22 gmcharlt hi schuster 12:28 jdavidb howdy, schuster. :) 12:30 paul_p good morning USA-ers ! 12:31 jdavidb Hi, paul_p. :) 12:54 owen Hi schuster, chris_n 13:19 chris_n hi owen 13:19 owen What's new chris_n? 13:28 chris_n phone 13:43 vedran hello, I lost password , where I Can find it or change it in my koha 13:44 gmcharlt vedran: Koha 3? 13:44 gmcharlt if so, it's in the koha-conf.xml file 13:45 vedran gmcharlt: OK, I will check it now 13:45 vedran which folder? 13:50 chris_n owen: lots of lightening damage to my lan equipment and pbx in several buildings... :-( 13:50 owen :( 13:51 chris_n insurance++ 13:51 owen I read your lightning strike mention in the log, sorry to hear it was pretty serious 13:51 chris_n a 24 pair cable runs very near the tree that was struck and the rest is history 13:52 chris_n btw, I like your koha blog 13:52 chris_n very informative 13:55 owen Thanks 13:55 owen I'm working on a followup on the YUI Grids post, but I'm having trouble getting some answers out of the ydn-javascript group 13:55 owen They don't seem to be interested in Grids questions 14:04 chris_n I've been messing with the grey box js, but it seems to be slow on some machines 14:09 owen chris_n: I'd be open to replacing it with a YUI or jquery method if it was leaner and faster 14:11 chris_n grey box also does not appear to support any form of location.href 14:12 chris_n does yui offer similar pop up functionality? 14:13 owen I would think so, but don't know offhand. I know you could find a similar jquery plugin 14:14 owen I've used a jquery one called jqModal, but I don't know if the functionality matches Greybox (not sure what the requirements are) 14:14 owen Good luck :| 14:22 jdavidb Hi, Wizzyrea_! 14:23 Wizzyrea_ mornin' :) 14:23 Wizzyrea_ just a warning to everybody, later today I'm giving a talk on Open Source Community, you may be projected :P 14:23 jdavidb :) 14:24 Wizzyrea_ HA 14:24 Wizzyrea_ not the point, but thanks all the same :) 14:25 Wizzyrea_ just be your charming selves 14:25 kmkale bye all 14:26 jdavidb In the interest of balance, I was trying to think of something *negative* to say, Liz, but am at a loss. 14:38 owen Wizzyrea_: Be sure to let us know when to wave 15:14 paul_p gmcharlt: around ? 15:14 gmcharlt paul_p: yes 15:15 paul_p do you know who could fix gitstat ? the last commit in changelog is 09/04/29 :( 15:15 paul_p ( http://git.koha.org/gitstat/ ) 15:15 gmcharlt paul_p: not sure if I have access - I can readily set up one on my own server, tho 15:15 gmcharlt and I think chris is running one as well 15:16 paul_p does it mean we've "lost access" to this site ? 15:17 gmcharlt paul_p: not necessarily - seems I still have shell access to git.koha.org, so will look into fixing it there 15:17 paul_p gmcharlt: ++ 16:04 kf bye #koha :) 16:16 gmc_mob @quote random 16:16 munin gmc_mob: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) 16:17 jdavidb lol 16:17 Wizzyrea_ ooh 16:17 Wizzyrea_ that's a good one 16:17 jdavidb @quote random 16:17 munin jdavidb: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) 16:18 Wizzyrea_ ...and popular, apparently 16:18 owen I think we need more quotes! 16:18 jdavidb @quote random 16:18 munin jdavidb: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009) 16:18 jdavidb @quote add <owen> I think we need more quotes! 16:18 munin jdavidb: The operation succeeded. Quote #21 added. 16:19 jdavidb :P 16:19 Wizzyrea_ @quote random 16:19 munin Wizzyrea_: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 09:37 PM, July 17, 2009) 16:19 Wizzyrea_ oh god... 16:20 owen What a limited view of the purpose of bacon. 16:20 gmcharlt Wizzyrea_: you're clearly the most quotable of us all 16:20 owen The purpose of bacon is to make things better. 16:20 jdavidb owen: you wouldn't know this, being the skinny thing you are, but it is also good for maintaining a panoramic physique, like mine. 16:22 jdavidb @quote random 16:22 munin jdavidb: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) 16:23 Wizzyrea_ doh I'm not registered, someone add that quote from jdavidb 16:24 owen How does one register? 16:24 gmcharlt owen: /msg munin register nick password 16:24 gmcharlt @quote add <jdavidb> owen: you wouldn't know this, being the skinny thing you are, but it is also good for maintaining a panoramic physique, like mine. 16:24 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #22 added. 16:25 gmcharlt owen: then /msg munin identify nick password whenever you join 16:25 owen Thanks gmcharlt 16:25 Wizzyrea_ @quote add <gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password 16:25 munin Wizzyrea_: The operation succeeded. Quote #23 added. 16:25 Wizzyrea_ thought it might be useful some day 16:26 Wizzyrea_ @quote 23 16:26 munin Wizzyrea_: I suck 16:26 gmcharlt @quote get 23 16:26 munin gmcharlt: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 16:26 Wizzyrea_ @quote get 23 16:26 munin Wizzyrea_: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 16:26 Wizzyrea_ pbbbt 16:26 gmcharlt @dunno add I've exhausted by database of quotes 16:26 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Dunno #6 added. 16:26 gmcharlt @dunno remove 6 16:26 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 16:26 gmcharlt @dunno add I've exhausted my database of quotes 16:26 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Dunno #7 added. 16:27 Wizzyrea_ hm, the /msg munin register nick password might be a good dunno 16:27 jdavidb @quote random 16:27 munin jdavidb: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 16:28 jdavidb Munin, you're not very bright, are you? 16:28 munin jdavidb: downloading the Perl source 16:28 Wizzyrea_ well I think that would make him bright 16:28 jdavidb Hmpf. 16:28 Wizzyrea_ @quote random 16:28 munin Wizzyrea_: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 04:18 PM, August 06, 2009) 16:28 owen munin: You're a source of endless procrastination. 16:28 munin owen: downloading the Perl source 16:29 Wizzyrea_ @wunder Topeka, KS 16:29 munin Wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Near Washburn University, Topeka, Kansas is 25.3°C (11:29 AM CDT on August 06, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). 16:30 owen / msg munin register temperature Fahrenheit 16:30 nicomo_ @wunder lyon france 16:30 munin nicomo_: The current temperature in Lyon Satolas, France is 33.0°C (6:00 PM CEST on August 06, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 16:31 nicomo_ too hot 16:31 owen Hotter in Lyon than Kansas? Wow. 16:31 Wizzyrea_ yea, it's been a strange summer here 16:31 Wizzyrea_ nice, but strange 16:32 jdavidb @wunder rockville, md 16:32 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 20.2°C (12:31 PM EDT on August 06, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). 16:32 jdavidb No wonder it feels like a lukewarm bath out there... 16:32 nicomo eh eh 16:32 pianohacker You can also add a hostmask, so you don't have to enter your password 16:32 nicomo 33°C is, what? 90°F? 16:33 Wizzyrea_ jdavidb; in my book, that's a cold bath 16:33 Wizzyrea_ that's a bath hardly worth taking 16:33 pianohacker @gcalc 32 degrees celcius in degrees fahrenheit 16:33 munin pianohacker: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. 16:33 nicomo 91.4 16:33 pianohacker @gcalc 32 degrees celsius in degrees fahrenheit 16:33 munin pianohacker: 32 degrees Celsius = 89.6 degrees Fahrenheit 16:34 nicomo I think I'll stay indoors 16:34 jdavidb It's pleasantly cool and rainy here today. One of those slow drippy rains that you can stand out in for thirty minutes, and *not* get soaked. 16:34 Wizzyrea_ nicomo: good idea jdavidb: oh, nice 16:36 jdavidb gmcharlt: Here's a puzzler...remember how I told you that my problem child had rearranged the map a bit, causing index problems? 16:39 gmcharlt jdavidb: yep 16:39 joetho Another busy day at the office, I see. 16:40 jdavidb It's causing search-results problems, too, apparently. Everything shows "available" on the hitlist, even when it's checked out. onloan is mapped to 952$k, and that's just not present in the field at Search.pm/1273 and following, when the hash gets populated to work all that out. 16:41 jdavidb (it is in the marcxml stared in biblioitems, however.) 16:42 jdavidb Ah...in the framework, it's marked "hidden"! Could taht be it? 16:42 joetho is there a separate liblime IRC channel? 16:43 gmcharlt jdavidb: ouch if that actually turns out to be the reason - 'hidden' should only affect visibility 16:43 Wizzyrea_ not that I'm aware of 16:44 gmcharlt jdavidb: in the MARC frameworks, all item fields are mapped to the same tag, correct? 16:44 jdavidb 952, yes. 16:46 jdavidb I did a Dumper on $field, and most of the *rest* of the subfields are there...lost status, barcode, lots of others. But not k. $subfieldtosearch{'onloan'} is correctly 'k'. 16:46 jdavidb un-hiding that didn't change anything. 16:48 gmcharlt jdavidb: note that at that point in the process, C4/Search.pm is parsing the MARC record as returned by Zebra, not the version stored in the DB 16:48 jdavidb oh-hoh. 16:48 gmcharlt you can using yaz-client, set the format to xml and the element set to marcxml to see what it's returning 16:49 gmcharlt or, more readily 16:49 gmcharlt do a Dumper of the $marcrecord parsed around line 1195 16:52 jdavidb Sure enough, 952$k is not there. Hrm. 16:53 pianohacker jdavidb: Is it in the marcxml blob in the table? 16:53 jdavidb pianohacker: a-yup! 16:53 pianohacker And record.abs? 16:54 jdavidb yup. 16:54 gmcharlt jdavidb: hmm - is it also in the marc (not marcxml) blob in biblioitems? 16:55 jdavidb yup! I see it there. 16:55 gmcharlt quick way to tell (besides looking at it) would be to reindex that record using -b -x -z 16:58 jdavidb That happened already once this morning. But it's not just this one record--*everything* shows available... 17:01 jdavidb I did the yaz-client bit, and 952$k just is not being returned. 17:02 jdavidb letting it show it to me in marc form, zebra isn't giving it to me there, either. Maybe it filtered it away on input? 17:04 paul_p bye everybody & see you tomorrow (before I leave for 2 weeks of vacations) 17:04 jdavidb have a good evening, paul! 17:04 gmcharlt g'night paul_p 17:16 jdavidb Bother. Found a eeety bitty typo in my record.abs. Fixed, and resent the record thru the zebra queue...sure enough, that got it. 17:20 jwagner To quote someone not a thousand miles away :-) Spelling Counts! 17:22 jdavidb jwagner: :P One space, in one line of record.abs, caused a "bad # of args to melm"...on that line. 17:25 jwagner (jdavidb keeps using that line on me -- 'tis fun to return fire!) 17:26 jdavidb jwagner, be nice, or I'll make your sandbox forget things. :P 17:26 jdavidb gmcharlt, pianohacker, thanks for the help... 17:26 jwagner So long as you don't dump kitty litter into the sandbox.... 17:43 owen http://www.librarian.net/stax/2967/koha-and-liblime-and-the-letter-and-the-spirit-of-open-source/ 18:11 wizzyrea_preso Good afternoon, koha folks 18:11 wizzyrea_preso you're live on screen, fyi lol 18:11 atz what's "preso"? 18:11 atz ah, presentation 18:11 wizzyrea_preso I"m in a presentation ^.^ 18:11 atz don't listen to her! 18:11 atz j/k 18:11 owen Hi wizzyrea_preso's audience 18:12 jdavidb Howdy from Maryland! 18:12 owen Did y'all just have lunch? You must be sleepy now. 18:12 MickeyC wave to galen from diana! 18:12 joetho Hi Joe! 18:12 MickeyC fajitas for lunch 18:13 jdavidb You're getting verry....sleeeeeeepy..... 18:13 MickeyC zzzzz 18:13 magnusenger "God kveld" from Norway! 18:14 jwagner Nonzenze, wizzyrea, Pay No Attention To Those People Behind the Curtain! 18:15 joetho a log of this channel: http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.pl?user=&startdate=2009080503%3A00%3A58&enddate=2009080504%3A25%3A00&save=save 18:16 jdavidb Yesterday's meeting, yup! 18:16 joetho an easy mibbet login page to this channel: http://www.sekls.org/irc 20:31 richard hi 21:04 schuster ;) I have cable - love it. 21:04 schuster night all have a great evening. 21:07 joetho we have a 10 mb/sec connection in the office that is usually pretty hot. On the road can be just about anything 21:08 joetho I have found some of these 802.11 wireless providers to be shockingly fast. Sometimes. 21:09 joetho and dsl beats a 9600 modem. 22:21 pianohacker Hello, chris 22:22 chris heya pianohacker, howsit? 22:23 pianohacker Good, good 22:28 pianohacker chris_n: Cable isn't always perfect; I swear administering a reliable DNS server seems to be completely beyond Bresnan 22:30 Jo morning all 22:30 pianohacker Good morning 22:36 gmcharlt hi Jo 22:37 chris_n2 hello chris, pianohacker, Jo, & gmcharlt 22:38 chris chris_n2: pie on here is who might be doing some work on database independence, so he might have some questiosn for you :) 22:38 pianohacker database independence? 22:38 chris well at least being able to work with postgres and mysql for a start 22:39 pianohacker Ah 22:40 chris ohh congrats :) 22:40 gmcharlt chris_n2: congrats! 22:40 pianohacker Congratulations. Took a sec to realize you must be talking about your marriage, since Koha's only 10 years old 22:40 chris_n2 hehe 22:41 chris_n2 tnx 22:41 pianohacker The two anniversaries are pretty close together 22:42 chris_n2 happy coincidence... two wonderful occurrences in such close proximity ;-) 22:45 pie chris_n2: that's awesome, congrats :) 22:45 pie and yeah, chris is right, I'm gonna try and look at some DB bits and bobs 22:45 chris_n2 tnx, pie 22:49 chris_n2 at least I assume that that is the correct variation of dophin used by mysql 22:49 pianohacker Presumably 22:50 pie that's a good skill to have :) 22:52 gmcharlt if you can't find a reference librarian, use Google ;) 23:07 chris_n2 are there any issues in using ajax in koha? 23:07 chris_n2 s/in/with/ 23:08 chris not if it degrades 23:08 chris_n2 ? 23:09 chris_n2 degrades == backward compatibility 23:09 chris ie if you can still use the feature without having js, but if you have js then it uses ajax 23:09 chris thats cool 23:10 chris mostly for accessibility reasons 23:18 pianohacker chris_n2-away: I must, as duty commands, point out my C4::Service framework if you're interested in Koha AJAX stuff 23:19 chris @later tell chris_n2 < pianohacker> chris_n2-away: I must, as duty commands, point out my C4::Service framework if you're interested in Koha AJAX stuff 23:19 munin chris: The operation succeeded. 23:19 chris just in case :) 23:19 pianohacker Ahh, good idea. Thanks 01:04 pianohacker 'gnight 01:04 brendan see you in a bit #koha -- time to ride the bike home 01:42 brendan back after a pleasant bike-ride home 01:45 pie I gotta do it more :) 01:46 brendan :) 02:01 lamiette brendan: how far is the ride? 02:26 brendan 4.5 miles 02:26 brendan gcalc 4.5 miles in km 02:26 brendan @gcalc 4.5 miles in km 02:26 munin brendan: 4.5 miles = 7.242048 kilometers 02:27 brendan so 7km lamiette 02:32 mason . 02:40 lamiette brendan: I think my cycle route to work is only 2km a the moment so round trip 4 :( not really long enough and through the city so not that fun either 02:41 brendan that's cool -- at least you're out ride -- I think that is the key 02:41 lamiette haven't been for a while :) but need to get back into it again as I have the Taupo cyclechallenge in Nov 02:42 brendan good luck 02:42 lamiette only going to do 40-80kms :) 03:31 Amit hi chris, brendan 03:31 Amit good morning #koha 03:32 Amit @wunder New Delhi India 03:32 munin Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 32.0°C (8:30 AM IST on August 07, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). 03:45 brendan @wunder 93117 03:45 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 22.8°C (8:38 PM PDT on August 06, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 9 am PDT Friday... 03:45 brendan hi amit 03:46 Amit heya brendan 03:46 Amit hi Jo, Pie 03:46 Amit @wunder dehradun India 03:46 munin Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 25.0°C (8:30 AM IST on August 07, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.49 in 999 hPa. 03:46 Amit @wunder Bangalore India 03:46 munin Amit: Error: No such location could be found. 04:09 mason morning amit 04:13 Amit morning mason 05:12 Jo Hi Amit 05:12 Amit heya jo 05:12 Jo (funny how I actually quite like getting the daily weather report from India :) 05:17 Amit which city 05:24 Jo any .. 05:24 Jo they don't mean anything to me .. I just like that they appear whenever you guys start work :) 05:25 Jo ok - I'm off home. 05:25 Jo Have a great weekedn everyone. 06:35 greenmang0 @wunder mumbai 06:35 munin greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0°C (11:40 AM IST on August 07, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 07:18 kf good morning #koha 07:20 paul_p good morning #koha too 07:47 eiro gm #koha 07:55 kf :) 07:59 Amit hi kf 08:03 kf hi Amit 11:33 Amit hi davi, jwagner 11:34 davi hi Amit 11:48 jwagner Hi Amit 11:56 gmcharlt morning 11:57 Amit hi galen 11:57 jwagner morning, galen