Time  Nick        Message
10:07 hdl_laptop  patches@koha.org
08:36 |Lupin|     ok, thanks a lot. Could you please tell me to which address it should be sent ?
08:34 hdl_laptop  yes.
08:20 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: I'd like to submit a patch that adds a few columns we need to the branches table. Would you agree to review it before it is submitted to koha-patches, please ?
07:39 |Lupin|     okay, thanks
07:38 hdl_laptop  text
07:38 |Lupin|     mediumtext ?
07:38 |Lupin|     what ould a nice type be for country names ?
07:37 |Lupin|     :)
07:37 hdl_laptop  no sir
07:37 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: yes... and for the moment there is no column which can contain a country per se in the database, right ?
07:35 hdl_laptop  |Lupin|: or in MARC fwk
07:35 hdl_laptop  |Lupin|: in fact you can use such authorised_values in Patron_attribute
07:34 hdl_laptop  oh....
07:33 |Lupin|     because I wanted to add such a lolumn to a table and wanted to see how they are declared in other tables
07:32 |Lupin|     I was looking for that
07:32 |Lupin|     I don't see a column in the db which can contain a country name
07:32 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: yes but I mean
07:32 hdl_laptop  you have it in installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/authorisedvalues.
07:31 hdl_laptop  authorized_values should containe COUNTRY
07:30 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: just one quick thing: do some tables in the db contain informations about countries ?
07:30 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: but I could solve it actually, thanks
07:30 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: because I had a small problem
07:29 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: yep
07:29 hdl_laptop  |Lupin|: hi, you said you wanted a git user.
07:29 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: yes ?
07:18 hdl_laptop  |Lupin|: ?
07:17 munin       |Lupin|: Error: No such location could be found.
07:17 |Lupin|     @wunder Paris
07:17 munin       |Lupin|: Error: No such location could be found.
07:17 |Lupin|     @wunder paris
07:02 munin       greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0°C (12:10 PM IST on July 24, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
07:02 greenmang0  @wunder mumbai
06:58 |Lupin|     hey nahuel
06:49 |Lupin|     any git user around, pls ?
06:40 laurence    hello |Lupin|
06:39 |Lupin|     bonjour laurence
06:24 ebegin      good night all!
06:22 |Lupin|     hey Amit
05:47 Amit        hi lupin
05:44 |Lupin|     good morning #koha
04:00 CGI825      thanks:)
04:00 CGI825      and the issue, now just to make sure the db is set up properly
03:59 CGI825      http://www.docunext.com/blog/2009/04/debian-perl-conflict-libxml-sax-perl-local-version.html solved an issue i was having with apt installing some things
03:54 CGI825      i'm just going through it again; i must have missed something; sorry it's late
03:53 ebegin      If I were you, I would switch to debian (if this is possible, of course)
03:51 CGI825      true, i've considered them the same...i guess i should stop that
03:49 ebegin      Ubunto then, not debian.
03:49 CGI825      2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu
03:49 ebegin      ok.  the INSTALL.debian file is really straightforward
03:49 CGI825      debian
03:48 ebegin      which OS?
03:48 ebegin      hmmm... you should have something like Koha is under maintenance...
03:48 CGI825      or just rm -rf / and start from scratch, as this whole machine is just being stubborn
03:48 CGI825      i could enable it
03:47 CGI825      i don't have that set up
03:47 CGI825      no
03:46 ebegin      do you get something when accesing just localhost
03:45 CGI825      when i nav to localhost:8080
03:45 ebegin      when are you getting this message^
03:42 CGI825      and it's a module import, and i tried to install the module, but it said it was installed
03:42 CGI825      yes, i looked at it
03:41 ebegin      I guess that you already checked that the files actually exist
03:41 CGI825      maybe i should just del everything and start a new computer form scratch?
03:40 CGI825      all the defaults, except no zoom
03:40 CGI825      standard install
03:40 CGI825      maybe it's late and this is just easy, but i just can't think of what to check or do
03:40 ebegin      My first be would be to check you permissions.  What type of install did you do?
03:40 CGI825      i didn't even see the server until after
03:39 ebegin      np
03:39 CGI825      applet*
03:39 CGI825      i forgot to change my name when i started the apllet here
03:39 ebegin      :)
03:39 CGI825      yes
03:38 ebegin      CGI825, are you gp5st?
03:38 CGI825      and i'm pretty sure that all the pm's are installed
03:37 CGI825      i can't find any good info online
03:37 Amit        morning
03:37 Amit        hi ebegin
03:37 Amit        sory
03:37 ebegin      kidding
03:37 CGI825      http://pastebin.com/m6b2fe58b
03:37 ebegin      Amit, what about me? ;)
03:37 Amit        good morning koha
03:37 Amit        hi chris, richards
03:37 pianohacker Good night, all
03:37 pianohacker It usually is. Setting up SMTP is such a pain
03:36 ebegin      ok, this is system related, not Koha related... so...
03:34 ebegin      s/are/is/
03:34 ebegin      Where should I start to check to know why koha are not sending emails?
03:23 pianohacker ebegin: Heh, yeah. Time zones are so strange
03:22 pianohacker Thanks, you too
03:22 ebegin      it's not even friday over here :)
03:22 chris       have a good weekend all
03:22 pianohacker Heh. That is a good thing.
03:22 chris       ahh she is retiring from HLT ... which means more time for Koha :-)
03:21 pianohacker See ya
03:21 ebegin      so long
03:21 pianohacker Two farewells close together :/
03:21 chris       ok, im off to head north to Levin for the farewell of Rosalie from HLT
03:08 ebegin      I guess so too
03:07 chris       id imagine he is sleeping
03:06 ebegin      gmcharlt, around?
03:06 ebegin      chris, true for gmcharlt
03:06 chris       cool
03:06 ebegin      chris: I'm in Gatineau, near ottawa to give a training for a client.  Gatineau is about 2 hours from Montreal
03:05 chris       at least not yet, he is still RM just not working at liblime  :)
03:05 chris       he's not leaving, we wont let him :)
03:05 ebegin      gmcharlt, I want to thank you for everything you did for koha's community
03:05 chris       sup ebegin
03:04 ebegin      hey #koha!
23:35 |Lupin|     good night / day !
23:35 |Lupin|     bye all
23:01 chris       thats all i know about oklahoma
23:00 chris       they probably are all out singing
23:00 Snow_Fox    laters all
23:00 Snow_Fox    anyways off to home
23:00 Snow_Fox    apparently it was a issue in oklahoma city
23:00 chris       must be just sharon
23:00 Snow_Fox    but that was a few hours ago
23:00 Snow_Fox    i did get some odd packet drops for a little bit
22:59 Snow_Fox    erm nopers
22:59 chris       hmm is kansas internet still bustinated?
22:15 |Lupin|     ok
22:14 chris       got some sleep, so not bad ;)
22:13 |Lupin|     chris: how was your night ? :-)
22:13 |Lupin|     chris: not really... jst spend a few minutes reading e-mails and saying good night
22:12 chris       working late |Lupin|
22:12 |Lupin|     pianohacker: here ?
22:11 |Lupin|     hi
22:00 gmcharlt    dipanjan: you're welcome
21:59 dipanjan    gmcharlt: i found it under the unpacked tarball. thanks
21:57 dipanjan    gmcharlt: thanks
21:57 dipanjan    gmcharlt: thanks
21:56 gmcharlt    from the root of the git clone or unpackaged tarball
21:56 gmcharlt    dipanjan: installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql
21:55 dipanjan    s/kohastruture/kohastructure
21:55 dipanjan    gmcharlt: where can I find the kohastruture.sql script?
21:55 gmcharlt    dipanjan: pong
21:55 dipanjan    gmcharlt: ping
21:55 rhcl        outta here
21:49 chris       good luck
21:49 chris       :)
21:49 mib_0drkh8  :)
21:49 mib_0drkh8  well, thanks guys about time to wrap it up....maybe tomorrow I'll have some hair left
21:44 mib_0drkh8  hehe
21:44 Snow_Fox    :-P
21:44 Snow_Fox    i prefer the quick kill
21:44 mib_0drkh8  don't think it would help..lol
21:43 chris       :)
21:43 chris       thats just mean Snow_Fox
21:43 mason       meh, param rail-line dwn due to slip ..
21:43 mib_0drkh8  sorry for the language
21:43 mib_0drkh8  oops
21:43 mib_0drkh8  never consistent
21:43 mib_0drkh8  I don't wanna program, I can't keep up as  it is.....koha is too damn complicated, either the book shows up, or it doesn't, or it shows up twice
21:42 chris       hehe
21:42 Snow_Fox    :-P
21:42 Snow_Fox    RUN FOR YOU LIFE!
21:42 Snow_Fox    RUN!
21:42 Snow_Fox    and already they are trying to make me program
21:42 Snow_Fox    im a koha noobie too
21:42 mib_0drkh8  :-)
21:42 Snow_Fox    it all good mib
21:42 chris       :)
21:42 mib_0drkh8  lol
21:42 mib_0drkh8  it helped some
21:42 mib_0drkh8  np
21:42 mib_0drkh8  thank you
21:42 chris       sorry cant be more help
21:41 chris       yes might pay to ask incolsa
21:41 chris       ahhh in that case, id expect it was running
21:41 mib_0drkh8  I guess I will have to go to Incolsa about it, then, but thankx
21:41 mib_0drkh8  ok
21:41 Snow_Fox    Zebra btw is the search engine that Koha uses
21:40 mib_0drkh8  Liblime
21:40 mib_0drkh8  Incolsa
21:40 mib_0drkh8  we don't handle Koha
21:40 chris       ahhh, who set up Koha for you?
21:39 mib_0drkh8  I know nothing about that
21:39 chris       usually if things arent showing in searches, its becasue the indexes havent been built
21:39 mib_0drkh8  I don't know what zebra is
21:39 chris       and do you the the crontab set up to run rebuild_zebra.pl ?
21:39 mib_0drkh8  Koha is our program
21:39 chris       i mean with koha
21:38 mib_0drkh8  no, using oclc connexion...EZ cat
21:38 chris       mib_0drkh8: are you using zebra?
21:37 mib_0drkh8  so I don't know what is wrong, OCLC or Koha
21:37 Snow_Fox    someone said something about there being a workstation or computer i can buy that users can use like a OPAC
21:37 mib_0drkh8  and they are not showing up when the barcode is on the book (I think because  it's Koha)
21:37 gmcharlt    Snow_Fox: there are at least a couple LL customers using it
21:36 mib_0drkh8  no
21:36 Snow_Fox    do you guys mess with overdrive at all?
21:36 mib_0drkh8  no...every time I buy one today, I get two
21:36 mib_0drkh8  lol
21:36 mib_0drkh8  haha
21:34 chris       :)
21:34 chris       apart from the fact you have to buy them?
21:31 mib_0drkh8  anybody having problems with buying bibs from OCLC?
20:59 chris       heya Jo
20:59 gmcharlt    hi Jo
20:58 rhcl        Afternoon
20:58 Jo          Good morning all
20:54 chris       heya galen
20:53 gmcharlt    hi chris
20:51 Snow_Fox    thanks piano for the info
20:50 Snow_Fox    heya richard
20:50 Snow_Fox    hurts the brain >.<
20:50 Snow_Fox    wow delayed answer
20:50 chris       morning
20:48 richard     hi
20:40 pianohacker Beats me why we don't just keep it in a data file, but hey
20:40 pianohacker Snow_Fox: I think the language_... table maps one kind of language identifier to another
20:20 atz         Snow_Fox: just use tabular.   the others don't do anything (reliably) afaik
20:09 Snow_Fox    sacre bleu?
20:08 Wizzyrea_   not sure, the french folks did the guided reports module i think
20:07 Snow_Fox    question on the types of Reports from SQL Tabular seems streight forward its just a list of items, sumary is also easy in that its a summation of items, however Matrix kinda baffles me, anyone know what this does?
19:47 Snow_Fox    besides maping characters from standard to another?
19:47 rhcl        Is Koha Bath compliant?
19:47 Snow_Fox    language_rfc4646_to_iso639 any idea what this table does?
19:42 rhcl        yep
19:41 Snow_Fox    from the looks of the table configuration
19:41 Snow_Fox    it think its used to connect to various databases
19:41 Snow_Fox    thats why it sounded familiar
19:40 rhcl        Z39.50 is a client-server protocol for searching and retrieving information from remote computer databases. It is covered by ANSI/NISO standard Z39.50, and ISO standard 23950. The standard's maintenance agency is the Library of Congress
19:40 rhcl        Even I know that.
19:40 rhcl        or something like that
19:40 rhcl        Z3950 is a protocol to permit searching in other people's drawers
19:38 Snow_Fox    totally lost on
19:38 Snow_Fox    language_rfc4646_to_iso639
19:34 Snow_Fox    ok i gotta ask what is z3950
19:11 pianohacker brb lunch
19:10 Snow_Fox    field
19:10 Snow_Fox    according to schemaspy the firled is 16777215
19:10 Snow_Fox    hrm thats what i kinda figured when i played with it
19:09 pianohacker I think the manual could tell you
19:09 pianohacker Couldn't tell you that one. I think there's a data size limit, but image dimensions are really only limited by where it goes in the interface
19:09 Snow_Fox    whats the limitations on image size and girth
19:08 pianohacker I'm fairly certain
19:08 pianohacker In the database
19:08 Snow_Fox    in the database or in a file on the server somehwere
19:08 Snow_Fox    so where are the images for patrons technically stored
19:08 Snow_Fox    ah
19:08 pianohacker Run by OCLC
19:08 pianohacker It allows you to look up other editions of a book, based on its ISBN (it's technically xISBN, but koha miscapitalizes it in a few places)
19:07 pianohacker cronjob
19:07 pianohacker It's reset by the misc/cronjobs/services_throttle.pl
19:07 Snow_Fox    as a service
19:07 Snow_Fox    i suppose i gotta ask what is XISBN
19:07 pianohacker You can only use it 500 times a day, so Koha updates a counter in that table
19:06 pianohacker Added for the XISBN service
19:06 Snow_Fox    services_throttle?
19:05 pianohacker Though there's talk of moving the roadtype table into authorised_values
19:05 pianohacker Yup
19:05 Snow_Fox    roatype prob falls under that same category doesnt it
19:05 Snow_Fox    without changing the hard code in the system
19:04 Snow_Fox    i suppose it makes sense in that context with different groups in different countrys need a easy way to add and remove data
19:04 owen        ethnicity is a requirement of New Zealand systems
19:03 pianohacker owen: True even if it is a bad pun
19:02 Snow_Fox    seems a little redundant imho
19:01 Snow_Fox    why is there a ethnicity table
19:01 owen        Maybe if someone threw some money in it would get fixed!
19:00 Snow_Fox    like congress
19:00 Snow_Fox    so in other words is a black hole where money goes
18:59 pianohacker We could go on
18:59 pianohacker It is the source of neverending headaches
18:59 Snow_Fox    lol
18:59 owen        It's the table you update manually when you can't seem to get rid of that fine on a patron's account ;)
18:58 Snow_Fox    ah ok
18:58 pianohacker It keeps track of fines and payments
18:58 owen        It stores information about fines and charges
18:58 pianohacker Snow_Fox: I did answer that question last night, but unfortunately after you left
18:58 Snow_Fox    anyone know what the reason for the accountlines table is for?
17:38 munin       gmcharlt: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:58 PM, July 10, 2009)
17:38 gmcharlt    @quote random
17:18 pianohacker bye
17:18 paul_p      ok, time to head back home. see ya tomorrow everybody !
17:11 |Lupin|     bye cait, bye all !
17:11 |Lupin|     thanks !
17:08 cait        have fun!
17:06 |Lupin|     1900 time for concert !
17:00 rhcl        1200 time for lunch!
16:57 rhcl        You know, I did read an interesting article from some world-famous library guy where he discussed something to the effect that if you threw out Marc and all the ILSies and started from scratch with a bare database, what would you design today.
16:56 Sharon      I had a friend on that committee and I'm a cataloger, so we had long, interesting, truly librarian-geek discussions on cataloging standards
16:56 |Lupin|     rhcl: hmm that was just a joke ! Just tried to invent something funny
16:55 cait        yay :)
16:55 gmcharlt    cait: that is in fact the droid I was looking for :)
16:55 cait        isnt that MARC21 commitee also called marbi?
16:55 rhcl        Yea, well, I was close
16:54 |Lupin|     MARBI = Multi-precision Arbitrary Records Bookmarking Information
16:53 Snow_Fox    I am most decidedly not a programmer :-P
16:52 rhcl        MARBI = Multiple Array Recursive Bind Instructions ?
16:52 Snow_Fox    it burns usssss
16:51 rhcl        ->librarian<-  something I have resisted learning quite well. I'm vaguely aware there is Mark 10 and Mark 13 and that's all I need to know.
16:49 Sharon      hehe
16:49 Snow_Fox    :-P
16:49 Snow_Fox    if its any consolation im learning alot of librarian
16:48 Sharon      but I do now!
16:48 cait        sharon: i know how you feel about learning geek... )
16:48 Snow_Fox    heh
16:48 Sharon      I didn't even know we had a DNS server here in the office...or that it could go down...or what that would mean to our libraries.
16:48 Snow_Fox    i could be wrong on my terminiology there
16:48 Snow_Fox    it was active directy service server or a core router
16:48 Snow_Fox    as we had thought
16:47 Snow_Fox    well it wasnt DNS
16:47 Sharon      I had to have Liz explain DNS to me...I'm learning much geek in this job
16:45 Snow_Fox    nah just simply not our problem cox barfed
16:45 Sharon      I'll put that in my explanatory email - "Koha was down because a Cox Core router in OKC barfed"
16:43 Snow_Fox    cox barfed
16:43 Snow_Fox    simply put
16:43 Snow_Fox    heh
16:41 Sharon      I think all is well now, thank goodness
16:41 Snow_Fox    apparently a Cox Core router in Oklahoma City barfed
16:41 Snow_Fox    i just got details of what happened
16:41 Snow_Fox    ok
16:38 rhcl        -->http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/    Works for me.
16:38 Snow_Fox    ah
16:36 rhcl        We are a member of a program they have that manages our Internet connections up to their router and our firewall.
16:35 rhcl        Well, they do our Internet connections, so I can call tech support.
16:33 Snow_Fox    rhcl: more.net how do you check?
16:32 rhcl        We're right on the MOKAN border anyway.
16:31 rhcl        When it was going on I could get to google sometimes, but not other sites, and email was up and down too.
16:31 rhcl        All KS people: MORE.net tells me there's a telco problem in our area--if it's your problem too then you may see flaky behavior.
16:24 Snow_Fox    but they were not going anywhere
16:24 Snow_Fox    well google searchs were bringing up links
16:23 wizz-work   bbiab
16:22 paul_p      sounds logic: some computers had DNS cache, so could find the host, some hadn't, so couldn't find the host.
16:22 Snow_Fox    we lost DNS here so it if it was you did a doozie
16:21 Snow_Fox    LOL
16:21 wizz-work   b/c that means it's not my fault ^.^
16:21 Snow_Fox    heh
16:21 wizz-work   well I'm glad to know you snow_fox :)
16:21 Snow_Fox    me and another tech were out getting food for the potluck
16:21 wizz-work   (our server is backed up by KanRen, who is apparently backed by cox)
16:20 wizz-work   whew, and I rushed into work because I thought it was our DNS server ^.^
16:20 Snow_Fox    at least thats what i was told :\
16:20 wizz-work   oh well there you go
16:20 Snow_Fox    so its a cox dns issue
16:20 Snow_Fox    kanren dns servers are backe by cox
16:20 wizz-work   were you going to a kohalibrary.com address or something custom of your own?
16:20 wizz-work   but nexpresslibrary.org wasn't
16:19 wizz-work   and kohalibrary.com was resolving
16:19 wizz-work   (which was my first thought, because we host nexpresslibrary.org from here)
16:19 Snow_Fox    must have been further up the pipe
16:19 wizz-work   and it's not like we host your DNS
16:19 Snow_Fox    strange
16:19 wizz-work   kanren
16:19 Snow_Fox    you?
16:19 Snow_Fox    Cox
16:18 wizz-work   who's your isp?
16:18 wizz-work   must have been some kind of kansas DNS deal
16:18 Snow_Fox    ya
16:18 wizz-work   oh was yours not working either snow?
16:18 Snow_Fox    you droped off too?
16:17 Sharon      it's back up
16:15 wizz-work   lulz
16:15 chris       and no, dont ask why im awake at 4.15am looking at koha catalogues
16:14 chris       i can
16:13 wizz-work   it's getting lost in translation somewhere
16:13 wizz-work   can any of you get to catalog.nexpresslibrary.org? It looks like it should be resolving from here but it isn't connecting
16:03 Sharon      ...and we're doing a program on cloud computing in a couple of weeks at our Tech Day workshop...I think I'll gloss over this part
16:01 cait        Sharon: logos are missing for me
16:01 rhcl        Rgr
16:01 Sharon      Lawrence
16:01 Sharon      Kansas
16:01 rhcl        Sharon: sorry, where are you again?
16:00 Sharon      Yep, our ISP is investigating the outage
15:59 paul_p      last saturday I had a phone call of a SAN-OP librarian (the regular staff is in holiday) saying "hey, zebra is down". 10mn later, new call "oups, sorry, it's not zebra, it's the internet. We have nothing at all". Fortunatly, I was not on my phone, so got the 2 messages 20mn after that ;-)
15:58 Sharon      I have Diana out on the front lines now, so I can get accurate reports for her - with 'parts' of the internet being down, I think rhcl has it right
15:58 owen        I could mean they're typing in their password incorrectly :|
15:58 owen        "Koha is down" could mean Koha is down, it could mean the internet is down.
15:58 owen        Sharon: I have a very hard time getting my staff to give me accurate reports in these situations
15:57 rhcl        telco
15:57 rhcl        Yea, our "ISP" said it was a teleco problem, so it could affect you too I suppose.
15:56 Sharon      that would explain why they can't get into amazon.com...I'll preach patience and hope for the best.
15:55 paul_p      Sharon: it doesn't. It just means I have the "koha strings" in french. not the catalogue or your header, footer or left menu
15:55 rhcl        Sharon - We just had a complete Internet outage here--maybe affecting you too? We're good now though.
15:54 Sharon      how does "nexpress" translate??
15:54 Sharon      it's hit/miss some libraries can get into some sites, but not others...and liz is home sick!
15:54 paul_p      and I even have the french version of the OPAC :D
15:54 magnusenger hdl_laptop: sounds like a good idea! ;-)
15:54 paul_p      Sharon: it works even from France ;-)
15:51 Sharon      well crap, i wonder what the hell is going on.
15:51 gmcharlt    Sharon: works for me as well
15:51 owen        Works for me!
15:51 Sharon      yep
15:50 owen        http://nekls.kohalibrary.com/ ?
15:50 Sharon      we've lost access to our catalog...ugh
15:47 hdl_laptop  magnusenger: I will be posting a patch proposing a function to ensure marcrecord data are utf8 encoded and donot get double encoded with manipulations
15:43 gmcharlt    |Lupin|: yes
15:43 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: even for a dev install ?
15:43 |Lupin|     for a dev install ?
15:38 magnusenger gmcharlt: thanks, i'll have a look at it
15:37 gmcharlt    |Lupin|: temporary directly created when you ran Makefile.PL.  Safe to delete it after installation
15:36 |Lupin|     pls, what's the blib directory ?
15:36 gmcharlt    perldoc Encode # for one way of ensuring that the values are converted to UTF8
15:36 magnusenger gmcharlt: any way to avoid it?
15:35 gmcharlt    magnusenger: yes, it's possible
15:34 magnusenger I'm munging records from a proprietary Norewgian system, and putting values in 952o with this: if (my $field096 = $record->field('096')) { $field952->add_subfields('o' => $field096->subfield('a')); } Could that somehow result in values in 952o that are not UTF8, if the value of the original 096a is in UTF8?
15:31 magnusenger sorry, that should of course be 952$o, not $h...
15:29 magnusenger All other occurrences of æøå seem to work fine
15:28 magnusenger So any "nordic wowels" (æøå) in 952h results in broken MARCXML
15:28 owen        I'm not sure why my database didn't get updated with it
15:28 owen        Snow_Fox: It works, and it's in Search.pm and updatedatabase.pl
15:27 magnusenger Hi, all! I'm having some trouble with bulkmarcimport today. It looks like e.g. 952$h = 359.00944 Røk is turned into 952$6 = 359_009440000000000_R?K for biblioitems.marc, and then the record in biblioitems.marcxml is cut short at the "?": http://koha.pastebin.com/m31e02404 Anyone have any clues?
15:25 Snow_Fox    bev said it was a outdated item
15:25 Snow_Fox    hrm piano said it was a custom sys pref
15:23 owen        maxItemsInSearchResults must have gotten lost in an updatedatabase somewhere. It seems to work once added manually
14:57 owen        I guess OPACnumSearchResults refers to titles returned, not items returned.
14:55 |Lupin|     when I try to git checkout master, it tells me that my branch is of origin/mastr... could someone please tell me how to go to origin/master anyway ?
14:53 Snow_Fox    there was another in there as well
14:53 Snow_Fox    from what i was told it was a old value that got into the manual but not actually used
14:53 |Lupin|     hi again everybody
14:52 Snow_Fox    hey ive seen that before
14:51 owen        Has that become numSearchResults and OPACnumSearchResults?
14:50 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2800 normal, P3, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, maxItemsInSearchResults causes confusing display
14:50 owen        Bug 2800 refers to a system pref "maxItemsInSearchResults" which I don't see in my system.
14:46 Snow_Fox    gotta love local dialects
14:41 Snow_Fox    uh huh.....
14:37 gmcharlt    hmm - if you believe http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-yon1.htm, Florida is apparently part of the UK
14:37 Snow_Fox    :(
14:37 Snow_Fox    nuts its not in our test system
14:37 Snow_Fox    thats one ive never heard before
14:37 Wizzyrea_   yonks, that's one  i don't hear often
14:36 Snow_Fox    k
14:36 gmcharlt    Snow_Fox: the edit feature has been in the public HEAD for yonks
14:35 Snow_Fox    :-p
14:35 Snow_Fox    the demo is a lie
14:35 Snow_Fox    unless
14:35 Snow_Fox    well
14:32 Snow_Fox    so yay
14:32 Snow_Fox    ok the edit button is def on the liblime demo
14:32 Sharon      We have pretty resilient librarians, but they get tired of the instability
14:31 Snow_Fox    :-p
14:31 Snow_Fox    all the blood and what not
14:31 Snow_Fox    i bet that gets tiring
14:31 Sharon      edge
14:31 Sharon      FYI, We're at version: because we have a lot of enhancements, so we have to stay at the bleeding edget
14:31 Snow_Fox    hrm
14:30 Sharon      they keep pushing it back.
14:30 Sharon      http://www.nexpresslibrary.org/may-27-updates/ < info about the edit feature in reports
14:29 Snow_Fox    i wonder if it will be in the 3.2 rollout
14:28 Sharon      I'm not sure of the version number, but the ability to edit reports was fixed by Chris right after KohaCon
14:26 Snow_Fox    hey just to make sure with the custom reports via SQL if im searching for a specific item say by item id if i wanted to change what that ID is i would have to create a new report, there is no way to edit the sql report after its created, correct?
14:10 Snow_Fox    thanks gmcharlt
14:07 gmcharlt    and mark.bucholtz@liblime.com
14:07 gmcharlt    Snow_Fox: beverly.church@liblime.com
14:03 Snow_Fox    anyone have mark or beverlys email for liblime?
13:59 owen        I suppose the same is true of the TinyMCE plugin. Are those the only two examples?
13:57 nicomo      but my browser is in en-US so
13:57 nicomo      it does not just based on the language select within Koha
13:57 paul_p      owen: nope, it's in english
13:57 nicomo      owen: I'm not sure
13:53 owen        Does the calendar pop-up widget in the staff client pick up different translations if you're not using English?
13:35 paul_p      'morning owen & Wizzyrea_
13:35 Wizzyrea_   heya
13:34 owen        Hi Wizzyrea_
13:22 kf          never learned french at school :(
13:20 paul_p      I learned german at school but... my teachers were poor, the student was not very interested and it was 25 years ago so...
13:16 kf          the example I showed you looks not so nice... did it a while ago, but its the only one in english we have :)
13:15 kf          my job here includes transfering and linking home made classifications to html for opacs - so I really have to test this out sometime
13:15 kf          thx for explaining paul!
13:12 paul_p      (+ some pending patch in english as said galen)
13:12 paul_p      atm, the only included feature is hardcoded dewey, stored in french
13:11 paul_p      you could even say "biblios from author X are 1a" or "biblios from publisher Z are ..."
13:11 paul_p      ...
13:10 paul_p      biblios with callnumber Y are in 1b
13:10 paul_p      for example : biblios with callnumber X are 1a
13:10 paul_p      and THIS ... THIS is in a parameter table
13:10 paul_p      then, you would say "biblios fitting this criteria are in this category"
13:10 paul_p      ...
13:10 paul_p        2b International
13:10 paul_p        2a General
13:09 paul_p      2 Law
13:09 paul_p        1b Finances
13:09 paul_p        1a Personnel management
13:09 kf          ah, ok, I understand now!
13:09 paul_p      1-economics
13:09 paul_p      for example :
13:09 paul_p      - how it is filled
13:09 paul_p      - the tree
13:09 paul_p      what is missing are some table to explain :
13:09 paul_p      you "browse" a classification, that looks like a "tree", and when you reach the lowest level, you reach a list of results
13:08 paul_p      kf: yes, it's something like that.
13:07 kf          https://webpac11.bsz-bw.de/WP.aafh.html ?
13:06 kf          gmcharlt $ paul_p: perhaps similar to our "browse classification" feature?
13:04 kf          gmcharlt & paul_p: so difficult to say, if it would work for us or if the library would be interested in this feature
13:03 kf          gmcharlt & paul_p: thx :) but dont get how it its supposed to work or look like
13:02 owen        Also: Hi everyone!
13:02 owen        Anyone know the address of AUAF's OPAC? The link on their page is broken: http://www.auaf.edu.af/lib_collections.html
12:53 gmcharlt    of course, a config file for this is a good idea anyway
12:53 gmcharlt    may need to do the work of adding a configuration file for this so that library can supply their own DDC config table
12:52 gmcharlt    there's a patch floating around to add English DDC descriptions, but because of potential OCLC copyright issues
12:52 paul_p      if you want to sponsor this, it should be fairly easy to highly improve the feature (and I have a lot of ideas about how to do that...)
12:52 paul_p      kf: gmcharlt is right. The "only" problem is that we (BibLibre) never took time to integrate into Koha the "browsing description", it's hardcoded into the script.
12:50 gmcharlt    once appropriate configuration tables are created
12:50 gmcharlt    the opacbrowser feature should work OK for both UNIMARC and MARC21
12:50 gmcharlt    kf: UDC (universal decimal classification), not DDC (Dewey decimal classification), I suspect
12:38 kf          paul_p: what does french dewey mean - we have (modified) dewey and MARC21 - UNIMARC needed?
12:37 kf          ok, thx
12:30 paul_p      hdl_laptop & kf: I don't think so.
12:30 hdl_laptop  paul_p: is there any opacBrowser on ?
12:30 |Lupin|     see you later all !
12:30 |Lupin|     okay, have to run
12:29 |Lupin|     kf: don't know, sorry
12:28 kf          wiki say only works in french dewey catalog
12:27 kf          documenting opac-features today, is there a catalog using OpacBrowser so that I can see how it does look like?
12:24 gmcharlt    |Lupin|: enhanced messaging attributes, for one
12:17 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: I'm sorry, I don't find the feature you were mentionning... where is it in the web interface ?
12:16 |Lupin|     good night chris
12:16 chris       have a good day all
12:16 chris       and with that, im going to sleep
12:15 gmcharlt    chris++
12:15 chris       thats only available with the "Koha Spam Plugin ... now with the ability to send html mail to all your patrons twice .. for maximum annoyance"
12:15 gmcharlt    |Lupin|: sending out patron notifications, mostly
12:14 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: what are Koha's possibilities regarding e-mails ?
12:14 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: just wanted to double check
12:13 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: okay, thanks !
12:12 gmcharlt    *no
12:12 gmcharlt    |Lupin|: to every patron at once?  now
12:10 |Lupin|     is it correct that it isnot possible from within Koha to send e-mails to all the patrons at the same time, please ?