Time Nick Message 11:57 |Lupin| hi Amit 11:48 Amit hi Lupin 11:47 |Lupin| back 11:32 Amit thanks 11:31 Amit ok 11:30 gmcharlt Amit: I've been testing it - should have comments later today 11:29 davi s/gmcharlt/galen/g 11:29 Amit galen: i have summit patch but no response 11:29 davi hi gmcharlt 11:29 Amit hi galen 11:29 gmcharlt hi Amit, davi 11:29 davi hi Amit 11:26 Amit hi davi 10:14 |Lupin| hello everybody ! 09:07 chris nz has never won in marseille 09:06 chris and then an nz vs france test in marseille too 09:03 chris http://marseillevitrollesrugby.com/ 09:00 chris isitola maka also 09:00 chris ohh 2 ex all blacks 08:54 chris but in 3rd division ... i think he will still be pretty good 08:54 chris he wont be anywhere near as good as 95 08:54 chris i think with lomu playing you might get some fans come to visit to see him play 08:54 paul_p when France plays in the large stadium, supporters comes from south-west ! 08:53 chris *nod* 08:53 paul_p chris: to say the truth => I don't know at all ! Marseille is a soccer city... noone is interested in Rugby. 08:53 chris but i think that was for football 08:53 chris paul_p: does the Marseille team play near your house? 08:51 chris s/new/knew/ 08:50 chris paul_p: yes i saw that, very sad, i new something weird was happening, his story didnt make sense 08:50 chris ron: w00t excellent news 08:50 paul_p + http://www.sport24.com/rugby/xv-de-france/actualites/bastareaud-a-craque-276140/ => Bastareaud in psychiatric hospital 08:49 chris yep :) they hope to get to 2nd division 08:48 paul_p chris: lomu won't just play in France. He will play in ... Marseille (3rd division) 08:47 paul_p hello ppl 08:46 ron it'll go live tomorrow 08:46 ron the install and config of koha for the prison went smoothly, once we went with the dev release 08:46 ron all good 08:44 chris not too bad, how bout you? 08:40 ron howdy chris, how's life? 08:10 chris evening 07:11 kf hi all :) 07:11 Kivutar hello all :) 07:11 Amit hi kf, kivutar 06:20 Amit k 06:20 ghghg huh! 06:20 ghghg it means there is nothing i can do with our present hosting service 06:19 ghghg so i guess that would be another story (the VPS) 06:18 ghghg whoa! 06:18 Amit tell ghghg what is your problem 06:18 Amit k 06:18 ron howdy amit. over to you. :) 06:18 Amit hi ron 06:18 ghghg ah okay 06:18 ron ah, amit is the guru 06:17 ron you'll likely need a vps 06:17 Amit hi ghghg 06:17 ron but I'm guessing you're not going to have much success with that restriction 06:17 ron that depends on your hosting environment 06:17 ghghg of external software 06:17 ghghg and it does not support installation 06:17 ghghg since we were hosted 06:16 ghghg how can i setup KOHA in a webhost 06:16 ghghg okay 06:16 ron ask. don't ask to ask. 06:15 ghghg anyone who can answer my question regarding KOHA>? 06:15 ghghg hello 05:24 wizzyrea-home alright, gnite/g'day ttyl :) 04:09 Amit hi sab 04:09 Amit l 04:06 wizzyrea-home or a small wooden object that goes up and down on a string, depending on your usage (it's a toy) but as I used it, it's slang for hi 04:06 wizzyrea-home hi :) 03:52 Amit yo yo means? 03:50 wizzyrea-home yo yo :) 03:50 Amit hi <wizzyrea-home> 03:49 wizzyrea-home heya brendan 03:43 brendan good evening chris, wizzyrea-home 03:43 Amit heya brendan 03:43 brendan heya amit 03:32 wizzyrea-home wow pwnt 03:31 chris he was a pretty gifted speaker 03:28 wizzyrea-home that is brilliant lol 03:27 chris yeah, he got totally owned 03:26 wizzyrea-home *gag* 03:26 wizzyrea-home omg falwell 03:26 chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeHTziiFVx0 <--- this one is a classic 03:25 chris hehe 03:25 wizzyrea-home this is me "hey, there's something funny about her behi... OMG!" 03:25 wizzyrea-home that is effing hilarious 03:24 chris play on tv here 03:24 chris there are a whole series of them 03:24 wizzyrea-home (they aren't wearing many clothes) 03:24 chris they werent wearing clothes? 03:24 wizzyrea-home about the safety vid? 03:23 wizzyrea-home do you know what I didn't even notice? 03:22 chris wizzyrea-home: seen this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdVHZwI8pcA 03:21 Amit this is my system generated date 03:21 Amit hmm i think date issue 03:21 chris yes i saw it, it will be in the queue of ones for galen to check 03:20 Amit chris: http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-June/003840.html 03:20 Amit chris: my patch date is 30 june 03:19 chris hehe 03:19 wizzyrea-home truth :) 03:19 wizzyrea-home "Has there ever been a kiwi that has sounded mean or ominous? They're the most adorable English speakers in the world." 03:18 wizzyrea-home 'much 03:18 wizzyrea-home I lol 03:18 wizzyrea-home http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Mq9HAE62Y&feature=player_embedded 03:18 Amit hi wizzyrea-home 03:18 wizzyrea-home omg, no, I have serious kiwi love... 1s for link 03:18 Amit no i have not receive any mail 03:18 chris can't stay away wizzyrea-home ? 03:18 chris but it hasnt be rejected either, or you would have got email 03:18 Amit no 03:17 chris not yet 03:17 Amit chris: my patch is not summit 03:17 chris hi amit 03:17 Amit hi #koha morning 01:37 chris ok, gotta go grab something to eat, bbiab 01:32 chris it only gets easier 01:32 wizzyrea-home that actually sounds kind of good. 01:32 chris its all good 01:32 wizzyrea-home <- a good cook but perlcake... a new recipe 01:31 wizzyrea-home k... it may be a while 01:31 chris jump on and we can talk you through it 01:31 chris when you get ready to do the kohaversion etc 01:30 chris no worries 01:30 wizzyrea-home anyway, ty much for the explanation 01:29 chris heh 01:29 wizzyrea-home er, maybe will... i'm a terrible nub. 01:28 wizzyrea-home important, but not so good if you don't have cake 01:28 wizzyrea-home yea, the rest is really more like frosting on the cake :P 01:28 chris once you have that, we can talk you through updating hte rest of the things 01:27 chris the most important thing is to get the code actually using it going first 01:27 wizzyrea-home i'm sure I"ll hose lots of things working this out ^.^ 01:27 wizzyrea-home ok I think I kind of see the framework, sort of 01:26 chris to tell it which tab to show the syspref under 01:26 chris admin/systempreferences.pl 01:26 chris and finally 01:25 chris *nod* 01:25 wizzyrea-home ah to add the new syspref to the install, right? 01:25 chris will need to be edited too 01:25 chris installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql 01:25 chris if he needs to 01:24 wizzyrea-home ok i see 01:24 chris galen will fix it before inclusion 01:24 wizzyrea-home go up one more? or will it be fixed before inclusion? 01:24 wizzyrea-home slightly dumb question: what if your next number is already taken? 01:24 chris installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl 01:23 chris the next one is 01:23 chris kohaversion.pl is one, that needs to have the new version number 01:22 chris there are a few files you need to change 01:22 chris when you are ready to submit your patch (ie you have your code written to use your new syspref) 01:22 wizzyrea-home I'm thinking of one that is kind of like the OPAC Nav syspref, a text entry box 01:21 wizzyrea-home (I wondered how that worked) 01:21 chris (anything that involves a database change, like a new syspref, will mean the version number needs to go up) 01:21 wizzyrea-home in your opinion, what's a simple one that would be a decent example? 01:20 wizzyrea-home Ah, ok 01:20 chris you want to add it to this page 01:20 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?do=show&id=en%3Adevelopment%3Adbrevs%3Astart 01:19 chris or even before then 01:19 chris once you have it working 01:19 wizzyrea-home okies 01:18 chris thats phase 1 01:18 chris the first one, is you can use the admin interface to add one to your test koha, then write the code to use it 01:18 chris there are a few things you need to do 01:18 chris right 01:17 wizzyrea-home so who wants to explain (or point me to the explanation of) adding sysprefs? 22:19 hdl_laptop If it meets your requirements, or plan improvements you may want to tell Michal Leung 22:17 hdl_laptop It really IS basic 0|1 but maybe it is enough for your needs. 22:17 slef I'll look at it. Thanks! 22:17 hdl_laptop But I knew something existed there. 22:17 slef yep 22:17 hdl_laptop I was wrong in the name. 22:16 hdl_laptop have you seen ? 22:15 slef hdl_laptop: intermittently 22:14 hdl_laptop But it hides regardless of the borrower status or category 22:14 hdl_laptop owen opac suppression can be a start for hiding some collection at OPAC is it not ? 22:12 hdl_laptop and the OpacSuppression thread on koha-devel list. 22:12 hdl_laptop If yes then you might want to take a look at OpacSuppresion syspref 22:12 hdl_laptop slef: still around ? 21:55 thd moodaepo: The software is freely available but if you provide fee based access to WiFi then there is a remote network service which charges fees for commercial use. 21:53 moodaepo here > http://www.howtoforge.com/openwrt-chillispot-freeradius-chillifire-hotspots-including-paypal-payment-gateway || http://www.howtoforge.com/wireless_hotspot_howto 21:53 moodaepo thd: yea I saw this comment "For non-commercial users Chillifire is free of charge; a non-commercial user is defined as a user with only one deployed router." 21:52 thd chris: The developers of the ChilliFire version of ChilliSpot are based in NZ, http://www.chillifire.net/about.php . 21:52 Jo For those who don't know, Rosalie Blake, the librarian who championed and sponsored and made the decision to develop Koha is retiring today, after 30 years of service to public libraries. 21:51 Jo She has been so happy for the last month - like a huge weight has been lifted off her shoulders. 21:50 thd moodaepo: ChilliFire may not really be very openly developed but it is in fact GPL and appears as if it would be an easy solution for a library to implement. 21:50 Jo yep - sad but nice. 21:50 Jo Hiya Chris 21:48 thd moodaepo: Exactly, I have been asked to provide an answer but I am not going to recommend restricting use of any particular services. 21:47 chris sad but nice too 21:47 chris hey there jo, sad day today eh 21:46 moodaepo thd: then you don't really care what type of traffic they are using keeping true to an open library mantra : ) 21:46 moodaepo true true...but it would be nice if whatever system you find/setup it can make available an averaged amount of current bandwidth among current users at any given time, instead of 1000mb/hr or some preset rigid amount. 21:41 thd moodaepo: The problem is that a few users of high bandwidth service such as streaming media can spoil the fun for the rest of the users in the library. 21:41 thd oh let me write that correctly 21:40 thd moodaepo: The problem is that a few high bandwidth service such as streaming media can spoil the fun for the rest of the users in the library. 21:39 moodaepo thd: I really didn't look too hard : ) although it was suggested by a colleague that with bandwidth control if there are no other users the few who are using it should be allowed to use it even if they go over. 21:31 thd moodaepo: Coova appears not to have per user bandwidth control yet. 21:21 chris *nod* 21:21 slef serendipity 21:21 chris yep, just came through 21:20 slef seems to be only one article, no thread? 21:18 slef ta 21:18 slef got it at gmane 21:18 chris i can find it in the main archive if you want 21:18 slef chris: *$£*$(£*$( nabble and its javascript requirement 21:17 slef chris: yep. was at the beach. 20:52 chris so the answer is, hlt have the skills to do it themselves, so dont use some other system 20:52 chris yep 20:51 thd chris: The firewall rules need to be carefully designed for the WiFi subnet. 20:50 chris someone else wants your hidden records feature too 20:50 chris http://www.nabble.com/Hide-bibliographic-records-td24249495.html#a24249495 20:50 chris slef: still awake? 20:47 chris hmm mono lib is persistent, send the same message twice a day 20:41 moodaepo thd: http://coova.org/wiki/index.php/CoovaChilli 20:41 chris they also have the benefit of one of nz's networking guru's looking after said box 20:40 chris hlt run an openbsd box as their router/gateway 20:40 chris then using your router to handle it 20:40 gmcharlt gmcharlt: but JSON or a Data::Dumper output would have the advantage of making action_log data actionable 20:39 chris thd: you can do it by putting the wireless machines on a subnet 20:38 chris back 20:33 gmcharlt I don't think JSON is requirement per se 20:31 hdl_laptop we can dump hash as json provided json is a requirement now for koha. 20:30 hdl_laptop ModMember doesnot know anything of "oldvalues". 20:29 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: I think old values => new values as hash or JSON is fine 20:29 hdl_laptop mmm do we really need $query ? I think so... If we donot have this, then how can we use the values ? 20:27 hdl_laptop can you test and send the patch pls ? 20:26 hdl_laptop like this 20:26 hdl_laptop if C4::Context->preference("BorrowersLog"); 20:26 hdl_laptop logaction("MEMBERS", "MODIFY", $data{'borrowernumber'}, "$query (executed w/ arg: ".join (" ",@params).")") 20:24 hdl_laptop should rather be a display of %$databorrower. 20:24 hdl_laptop owen : good question indeed. 20:21 thd s/bandwidth/bandwidth control/ 20:20 owen What is the use of the modification log if the contents look like "UPDATE borrowers SET firstname=?, gonenoaddress=?, categorycode=?, othernames=?, B_address=?, contactnote=?, dateofbirth=?, email=?, altcontactaddress2=?," etc. 20:20 thd answering my own previous question: the most recent versions of chillispot seem to have fixed user bandwidth problems. 20:14 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: as a first step, I don't think it's a big deal to expose zebra::facets 20:12 hdl_laptop Do you have any reason for that ? 20:12 hdl_laptop In my opinion, retrieval facilities should be on public servers, not on internal. 20:11 hdl_laptop But I can see no reason why we should expose data in various formats internally. 20:11 hdl_laptop elements. 20:10 hdl_laptop it seems that have retrieval facility on prevent us from using zebra::facets 20:10 hdl_laptop I have a question about koha configuration file : 20:09 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: working on facet search with zebra. 19:57 thd I have only found non-free implementations such as http://www.chillifire.net/ 19:56 thd Would this not be a problem for libraries such as HLT, chris? 19:54 thd What free software solution exists to control user bandwidth allocation on an open wireless network using something like OpenWRT? 19:51 moodaepo gmcharlt: hey 19:48 schuster I'm going to restore my "old" version that I setup before I started playing with it. 19:48 schuster Hmmm I probably did something wrong as it got an error... near "" with "map" 19:46 chris its the only time i get to read books anymore :) 19:46 wizzyrea chris: have a lovely commute :) 19:46 chris bb in 40 mins or so 19:46 chris right, kahu feed and dressed, time for me to catch th ebus to work 19:45 wizzyrea http://identi.ca/wizzyrea/ 19:45 wizzyrea all right, you win 19:44 gmcharlt hi moodaepo 19:40 gmcharlt morning, chris 19:38 chris (like i just did) 19:38 slef and facebook and probably other stuff if I configured it right 19:37 chris im on identica too, the thing is it can post to twitter too wizzyrea 19:37 thd slef: Yours is a fine example. 19:36 thd slef: Very nice. I have only recently started to appreciate some actually useful purposes for micro-blogging. 19:31 slef schuster: with the map command I wrote above. 19:30 slef schuster: the line that included delete_subfields 19:30 slef schuster: the line after that... 19:30 slef thd: http://identi.ca/mjray 19:29 thd slef, wizzyrea: have you tried identi.ca , http://identi.ca/, or Laconica, http://laconi.ca/trac/ , in any form? 19:29 schuster replace if( $subfield ) { - the section that starts like this with what you have noted here? 19:24 slef I'll be surprised and impressed with myself if that works. 19:24 slef try replacing the line after "if( $subfield ) {" with "map { $_->delete_subfields($subfield); } ($record->field($field)); " 19:22 slef if first 650 in the record, I think I can see why... export.pl calls MARC::Record::field() which returns "just the first matching tag" if called in a scalar context 19:19 slef schuster: first 650 in the record or first 650 in the batch? 19:17 slef schuster: hrm, looking again (sorry, was distracted by getting to inboxzero :) ) 18:56 schuster slef - /^(\d*)\D?(\w)?$/; if I do this it strips the 9 out of the first 650 but leaves the rest.. 18:41 wizzyrea slef: I kind of use it sometimes (hehe) and I have enough distracting streams of input ^.^ 18:41 wizzyrea slef: yea, idk, I'm not really a twitter expert 18:40 slef wizzyrea: unless I've misread it 18:40 slef wizzyrea: only a special real-time feed for services, not service for users 18:39 wizzyrea since july 08 18:39 slef schuster: I can't see any reason for that :-( 18:39 wizzyrea slef http://blog.twitter.com/2008/07/twitter-and-xmpp-drinking-from-fire.html 18:38 slef schuster: sorry, overlooked that. rereading the export.pl 18:38 slef wizzyrea: twitter has no XMPP does it? 18:38 wizzyrea slef: i must stop 18:38 wizzyrea slef: you are too fun to argue with 18:38 wizzyrea slef: you can do that with twitter ^.^ 18:37 gmcharlt to say nothing of RoR's second-worst anti-example 18:37 slef being able to use IM clients to update it is quite cool too :) 18:37 slef wizzyrea: ah, the twitter fail whale, OMB's greatest recruiting sargeant :) 18:36 wizzyrea slef: the first time I used twitter I created my account and it crashed 5 minutes later, LOL, it's a lot better now 18:35 slef wizzyrea: not sure. Both existed when I started, too. 18:35 wizzyrea <- was a latecomer to tweeting, kind of 18:35 wizzyrea slef: ah. OMB came before twitter or after? 18:35 slef wizzyrea: eventually twitter will do an AOL and open up, I think. 18:34 slef wizzyrea: being the first to get VC. I think at least one of the OMB companies has investment now, though, so maybe it will change. 18:34 thd s/when/before/ 18:33 thd gmcharlt: Just as I had presumed. and of course records would need to be filtered when importing. 18:33 wizzyrea slef: ha. interesting that twitter gets all of the attention... what is OMB missing that twitter has? (except a compelling name) 18:32 slef wizzyrea: twitter is the skype of microblogging :-/ 18:32 slef wizzyrea: there's a network of compatible sites... and then there's twitter 18:32 gmcharlt thd: though I think that such defaults get applied only when using the bib editor, not when importing records 18:32 wizzyrea re: slef 18:32 wizzyrea I don't think so 18:32 slef wizzyrea: does tweetdeck not support OpenMicroBlogging yet? 18:32 gmcharlt thd: 1 18:32 thd gmcharlt: What value is required? 18:32 slef wizzyrea: there's a few koha and evergreen hackers on them 18:31 thd gmcharlt: a default value could be set for 942 $n in some MARC frameworks which would make opac supprtession somewhat automatic. 18:31 slef gmcharlt: that sort of thing 18:31 wizzyrea but I shall keep it in mind 18:31 wizzyrea slef: that's great but no one I know uses that lol. And, I can't use tweetdeck with it :) 18:31 gmcharlt slef: e.g., http://mjr.towers.org.uk/facebook ? 18:30 slef I must set up http://mjr.towers.org.uk/SERVICE redirects like I keep threatening 18:30 slef I didn't manage to get mjray on facebook - by the time I woke up, all good variations had gone 18:30 gmcharlt cool 18:30 slef but thanks for getting the username right 18:29 slef do /ctcp nick time 18:29 gmcharlt slef: bah, I should know better than to convert TZ in my head 18:29 slef ;-) 18:29 slef wizzyrea: http://identi.ca/mjray is more foss-friendly 18:29 wizzyrea gmcharlt: ty :) 18:28 slef gmcharlt: it's 7 in the evening 18:27 gmcharlt wizzyrea: in case slef actually plans on going to bed, it's mjray 18:27 wizzyrea slef: what *is* your twitter? 18:17 schuster The one without the period stripped the $9. 18:17 schuster Only difference that I can see in the bibs are that the ones that didn't strip from first glance had a . "period" at the end of the heading and left the $9 18:16 schuster hmmm I exported 20 records and some got stripped others not. 18:07 slef aside - Getting a lot of spammy followers on twitter today :( 18:06 slef but still work if you enter a tag like 942 (which was the mistake with the one I emailed) 18:05 slef then that should work if you enter subtags as 650$9 18:05 slef so it reads /^(\d*)\D?(\w)?$/; 18:04 slef take the ? out from immediately after the w 18:04 schuster /^(\d*)\D?(\w?)?$/; should the second ? come out after the w? or am I on the wrong line? 17:57 schuster I possibly could do that... let me check what I have. 17:57 slef can you edit the tools/export.pl file? 17:57 slef there's no workaround - it's a bug in the code 17:57 schuster Slef that looks like you are swearing at me... LOL sorry don't even know where that would start... I'm an end user more than a programmer. 17:56 slef I think I've finally got that right 17:56 slef (\d*)\D?(\w?) 17:56 schuster I wouldn't mind entering that in the extraction that way it actually made more sense to me. 17:56 slef erm, wrong 17:56 slef if not, try (\d*)\D?(\w) instead of (\d*)(\w) or (\d*?)(\w) 17:55 indradg gmcharlt, thanks 17:55 gmcharlt indradg: no specific plans that I know of 17:54 slef what I was asking was: would you mind entering them as 650$9? 17:54 schuster OK just trying to figure out if there was a workaround or try and live with what we have for now. 17:54 slef my fix was also buggy 17:54 slef my fix wasn 17:54 slef no, there is a bug (see email) 17:53 schuster Yes but it still output the 650 with the $9. So instead of 6509 try the 650$9 to see if it strips it off? 17:53 slef schuster: so would there be a problem writing simply 650$9? 17:53 slef schuster: as in at the moment you write 6509 for 650$9, right? 17:52 thd thank you gmcharlt 17:52 schuster Question - slef and gmcharlt - MARC extraction - sorry I don't know perl well enough to understand "just write tag$subtag?" 17:52 gmcharlt thd: lists of bib records - see 'Lists' in staff-client menu in any 3.x database 17:51 indradg gmcharlt, any plans to make it a part of the regular accessioning workflow that can be defined through any "parameter" ? 17:51 thd What are 'lists'? 17:50 gmcharlt manually, for now 17:49 thd How are those invoked? 17:49 gmcharlt OPAC suppression + lists 17:48 thd gmcharlt, atz: What features in Koha could currently be used by an experienced cataloguer to review the records created or imported by an inexperienced cataloguer before the records become visible to patrons? 17:35 wizzyrea lol crap owen's away 17:27 wizzyrea so went with that. 17:27 wizzyrea owen: you're right, I did say "home library" in my description... but after I wrote that I looked at all (that I could find) of the other labels, they were all "Library" 16:52 gmcharlt slef: that syntax works for me 16:31 slef about schuster's marc export problem on koha-devel - why don't we just write tag$subtag? 16:28 pianohacker rhcl: Parsing in general still is; one of the more mind-bending areas of computer science that you still have to deal with with any frequency 16:27 rhcl Well my chopper is waiting to take me to install a telephone. 16:27 pianohacker Wow 16:26 jdavidb rhcl: He got chased out. We on the National Mall that day were singing "Kiss Him Goodbye" as the chopper went away. 16:26 rhcl Compiler design class was really interesting way back when. 16:25 rhcl He didn't get chased out, his quantum expired. 16:25 jdavidb I got told in college *not* to take any foreign languages--I had enough trouble passing English. 16:25 pianohacker I have read about his Yale education and whatnot, yes 16:25 jdavidb That wannabe redneck that got chased out of DC recently has the same disease, pianohacker. He's no more Texan than he is Martian. 16:24 wizzyrea proximity. 16:24 pianohacker jdavidb: Mostly the fact that a good quarter of the people in my small Colorado town have a texan accent for no apparent reason 16:24 rhcl sed s/en/un 16:23 rhcl Is there a un-AM ? Maybe Armenian has that already? 16:23 jdavidb whut meks yawl thank Texsuns tawk funny? 16:23 wizzyrea >.< 16:23 wizzyrea Eye Speek Amuricahn. 16:22 wizzyrea :) 16:22 wizzyrea I do have a regionless US dialect. I'm from the midwest 16:21 rhcl come on Liz, just speak American. 16:19 wizzyrea lul... Monday morning en-US language failure. *phew* 16:18 slef pianohacker: I didn't know the ukraine... drat 16:18 pianohacker Or is that en-GB ? 16:18 slef Ich hasse es 16:18 pianohacker en-US, not en-UK, slef :) 16:18 wizzyrea specificity. I has it. 16:18 wizzyrea *sigh* English LANGUAGE failure. 16:18 wizzyrea me :) 16:17 slef wizzyrea: oi, who are you calling a failure? ;-) 16:06 wizzyrea er, would throw. Monday morning English failure. 16:06 wizzyrea I can't say for sure, but it might be something NEKLS throws some bucks at 16:06 wizzyrea I don't... but you might put it out there and see if anybody grabs onto it 16:04 slef wizzyrea: no. I'm likely to bodge it for now by exposing the borrower categorycode to the templates and testing in there. Do you know any funding for a long-term solution? 15:27 wizzyrea I wondered if you had found a solution for that, we can see a use for it here as well 15:27 wizzyrea slef: "schuster, owen and anyone else who's come in since: I have some items that I don't want a certain category of users to view (let alone borrow)." 15:21 slef I'm going to be here and there a bit - it's too hot to work and I don't want to sweat into the peripherals 15:19 slef wizzyrea: which one? :) 14:10 jdavidb wizzyrea++ 14:10 jdavidb Thanks, wizzyrea; you're a gem. I knew there was some niggling problem with what I was thinking, but couldn't put my thumb on it. 14:09 wizzyrea sounds like a plan. :) 14:08 jdavidb K. I'm gonna solve this the quick-and-filthy way, then leave the ticket open for a more-robust answer later. 14:07 wizzyrea well we haven't had anyone ask for that, BUT I do think it would be helpful information 14:06 wizzyrea and since it's a syspref it won't bother folks too much 14:06 wizzyrea yea, but the quick n dirty way you're suggesting would definitely fix it for your client 14:05 wizzyrea (and digested) 14:05 jdavidb The clever way to do it would be to digest, and then deal with whether IndyBranch is on, and split 'em off, if so. 14:05 wizzyrea in order to be helpful for us it would have to pull the branch specific email address 14:04 owen It's hard to see how this change would be very widely useful 14:04 wizzyrea well, hm. 14:03 jdavidb In this case, yes. 14:03 jdavidb Making a digest of them would be a bit more complex, but not amazingly so--could use a similar mechanism to how non-emailable ones are done. 14:03 wizzyrea you're talking single branch? 14:02 wizzyrea yea, I can see that would get really annoying for librarians (but they have to learn about filters sometime 14:02 jdavidb No, that's not in this. The request that I got, believe it or not, was to BCC each-and-every one. Crazy talk, I know. 14:02 wizzyrea so... would there be a way to digest them? 14:01 jdavidb This is a feature for librarians who have nothing better to do with their time than obsess over whether an email notice went out...Unfortunately, I have one for a customer. 14:00 jdavidb My thinking here is to add a syspref, and if the syspref is non-null, use that as an address in a BCC for everything processed by process_message_queue. 14:00 wizzyrea ok, hit me with your solution 13:59 jdavidb Ah. While mine is offline, along with most-of-the-rest of my skull. 13:59 wizzyrea hehe 13:59 jdavidb Why so? You've got good sense, which is more than I can say for m'self this morning. 13:59 munin jdavidb: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3260 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Adding bcc to email notices 13:59 wizzyrea ok, you just made me laugh 13:59 jdavidb @bug 3260 13:58 jdavidb wizzyrea: Was hoping to see you around...I've got a bug I'm about to squash, and wanted to see what you think of the way I'm gonna lick it.. 13:57 wizzyrea (book club sets, for example)) 13:57 wizzyrea because we have items that a similar paradigm could be applied to 13:57 wizzyrea slef did you ever figure out a graceful way to solve your "group of patrons" issue? 13:34 hdl_laptop owen: ??? I donot think it was comprehension. 13:29 owen Thanks hdl_laptop. Your command of English is superior to mine :) 13:27 hdl_laptop it should be independant from circulation rules. 13:10 slef schuster, owen and anyone else who's come in since: I have some items that I don't want a certain category of users to view (let alone borrow). 13:09 slef so, if I'm not using the circulation rules, can we attach attributes to patron categories, or can someone suggest another approach? 13:08 slef hi schuster 12:39 Amit hi slef 12:36 slef http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?do=search&id=hidden not interesting 12:35 hdl_laptop I think it was on the wiki. 12:34 hdl_laptop But I can't remember where. 12:34 hdl_laptop I read sthg about that. 12:34 slef shame. sounds like an interesting feature 12:33 hdl_laptop dunnow. 12:33 slef hdl_laptop: does hiddenbranch exist or has it got another name?