Time  Nick          Message
11:30 osslabs       hi jawgner
09:47 |Lupin|       and the language and opaclanguage system preferences are correct in the database
09:47 |Lupin|       hdl_laptop: opac-tmpl/prog/fr-FR is there
09:46 |Lupin|       hdl_laptop: okay, thanks
09:45 hdl_laptop    |Lupin|: you can look at get_user_and_template
09:45 hdl_laptop    or htdocs if it is not a dev install
09:45 hdl_laptop    |Lupin|:  koha-tmpl directory
09:43 |Lupin|       (btw I don't even know where these templates are supposed to reside...)
09:43 |Lupin|       Is there a way to see which templates koha tries to load, just to figure out why the french ones aren't loaded ?
09:23 |Lupin|       yet the language problem is not fixed on my install :)
09:22 |Lupin|       thx
09:21 chris         awesome
09:16 |Lupin|       chris: okay, page pudated.
09:00 osslabs       hmm
09:00 |Lupin|       I was just about to ask
08:59 |Lupin|       ah
08:59 osslabs       Lupin i m Amit
08:59 |Lupin|       hi osslabs
08:58 osslabs       hi Lupin
08:48 |Lupin|       hmm still the opaclanguages variable has value Français(fr-FR) [X]
08:46 |Lupin|       I think I am looking at the wrong preference actually...
08:46 |Lupin|       but it is not used as the default language
08:46 |Lupin|       now french appears in the possible values for language
08:45 |Lupin|       also
08:45 |Lupin|       yes
08:44 chris         1/ Only the english templates are created ....
08:44 chris         maybe "Things to know when doing a dev install"
08:43 chris         http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development
08:42 |Lupin|       chris: any idea where this could fit ?
08:42 chris         *nod*
08:42 |Lupin|       it's just that the beginnings are hard
08:41 |Lupin|       actually I'm supposed to be a developer, or more precisely to become a koha developer somehow
08:41 |Lupin|       sure
08:40 chris         it would be great if you add it :)
08:40 chris         if you cant find it on the wiki
08:39 chris         generally the dev install is for dev tho, so it kinda makes assumptions you know what you are doing (often the assumptions are wrong) so it might not be documented
08:39 chris         might be on the wiki
08:38 |Lupin|       Perhaps There is already a documentation where this is explained ? (which would avoid me to bug everybody...)
08:38 |Lupin|       ahah ! tnaks !
08:36 chris         if you want french for example
08:36 chris         and run install-code.pl fr-FR
08:36 chris         you need to go misc/translation
08:36 chris         dev install doesnt create the templates
08:36 chris         since you did a new install
08:36 chris         yes because the templates wont exist
08:31 |Lupin|       and if I try to set the language pref in the area, english is my only option, just as if the other languages were not available...
08:27 |Lupin|       e.g. the description of the preferences are in french, but the buttons in english
08:27 |Lupin|       it's weird, on the global system preferences, for instance, some things are in french, others in english
08:23 |Lupin|       so maybe other parameters have been lost...
08:23 |Lupin|       the only thing is tha Koha now is in english
08:23 chris         cant say for sure, if it lets you login now, thats a good start
08:23 |Lupin|       I continued and things seem to work
08:23 |Lupin|       okay
08:23 chris         :)
08:23 chris         |Lupin|: maybe
08:22 si            oops
08:22 si            hmm
08:22 |Lupin|       chris: could you please have a look to it and se whether all the messages are benine ?
08:21 |Lupin|       http://pastebin.com/f47c0c1e8
08:20 |Lupin|       hmm actually...
08:20 |Lupin|       [Wed Jun 24 10:17:40 2009] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails  (`braillenet_koha/message_transports`, CONSTRAINT `message_transports_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`message_transport_type`) REFERENCES `message_transport_types` (`message_transport_type`) ON DELETE CA) at /home/seb/src/koha/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 2054.
08:19 chris         that may be safe to ignore
08:19 |Lupin|       [Wed Jun 24 10:17:40 2009] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry 'AllowRenewalLimitOverride' for key 1 at /home/seb/src/koha/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 2035.
08:18 |Lupin|       yep
08:18 |Lupin|       okay, I undestand, thanks
08:18 chris         so not any user you made in koha
08:17 chris         can run the upgrades
08:17 chris         on the user specified in the koha-conf.xml
08:16 chris         sorry yes
08:16 chris         no
08:16 |Lupin|       ah I thought koha would let me log in with the super librarian account I have created for myself, but it does not. Is that intended ?
08:13 |Lupin|       there are not somany datas in the db...
08:13 chris         but it will jump to the last step, and apply upgrades to get it to the required level
08:13 |Lupin|       oh well
08:13 chris         you can of course do a mysqldump before just in case
08:12 chris         nope thats what has to be done
08:12 |Lupin|       is this what has to be done, or will it erase the database completely ?
08:12 |Lupin|       it runs the web installer...
08:11 |Lupin|       let's try, thanks !!
08:10 chris         and hopefully it will let you upgrade
08:10 chris         yep you will need to go to the librarian interface
08:09 |Lupin|       I thought I could use the same database.
08:09 |Lupin|       and since I wanted to start hacking in Koha I installed it in dev mode
08:09 |Lupin|       actually I had a standard install on my system before
08:08 |Lupin|       ahah !
08:08 |Lupin|       opac-main.pl: OPAC: Database update needed, redirecting to maintenance. Database is 3.0001005 and Koha is 3.01000B37 at /home/seb/src/koha/C4/Auth.pm line ...
08:05 chris         good idea
08:04 |Lupin|       I can have a look to apache's log perhaps
08:04 |Lupin|       not on the page itself
08:03 chris         about being able to connect to the db or anything?
08:03 chris         there are no other errors before that?
08:02 |Lupin|       and git pull says already uptodate
08:00 |Lupin|       master
08:00 chris         or the 3.0.x branch?
08:00 chris         running from master?
07:57 |Lupin|       I had a look to the mentionned line but it was not inspiring for me...
07:56 |Lupin|       any idea how I can investigate ?
07:56 |Lupin|       uhuh...
07:55 chris         never seen that before
07:55 |Lupin|       hi chris
07:54 |Lupin|       Can anyone help with that, please ?
07:54 |Lupin|       Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /home/seb/src/koha/C4/Auth.pm line 327.
07:54 |Lupin|       and get the follwing error:
07:54 |Lupin|       Just tried to run Koha with a dev-style install (i.e. from sources)
07:53 chris         hi |Lupin|
07:53 |Lupin|       hello !
07:39 Amit          *Amit is known as osslabs
07:24 nahuel        hi thd
07:24 thd           good morning nicomo and nahuel
07:14 nicomo        Hi Amit
07:12 Amit          hi nicomo
07:08 nicomo        evening chris
07:08 chris         good morning europe
06:00 Amit          search by amit
06:00 Amit          thd: http://59.176.17.111/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authorities-home.pl
05:44 munin         brendan: nahuel was last seen in #koha 6 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <nahuel> complicated
05:44 brendan       @seen nahuel
05:15 thd           Are they testing subject authority records?
05:14 Amit          they have authority for testing only
05:13 thd           Amit: Does the Dehli Public Library have authority records?
04:59 thd           Amit: What subject heading thesauri are in use?
04:58 Amit          thd: they are using DDC
04:55 thd           Amit: What classification systems are in use at the Dehli Public Library?
04:43 Amit          k
04:43 thd           I live in New York City
04:42 Amit          yes
04:42 thd           Amit: Did you mean to ask where I am from?
04:41 Amit          thd; R u form
04:40 Amit          in my knowledge i think no
04:39 thd           Amit: are any others forthcoming?
04:38 Amit          may be aug end
04:38 Amit          right no but very soon delhi public library launches own z39.50 server
04:38 thd           Amit: do you have any public Z39.50 servers in India now?
04:36 Amit          k
04:35 Amit          thd: thd means
04:34 thd           hello Amit
04:34 Amit          hi thd
04:19 thd           hdl_laptop: sing yourself back to sleep :)
04:19 hdl_laptop    he already is back to sleep.
04:18 thd           hdl_laptop: sing your baby back to sleep :)
04:17 hdl_laptop    baby waking me up too early ;)
04:17 thd           hdl_laptop: have you not slept yet? or are babies waking you?
04:16 hdl_laptop    I donot think so.
04:16 thd           hdl_laptop: are you fully awake?
04:09 chris         no problem, thanks for spotting it
04:01 hdl_laptop    chris: thx btw about translations
03:58 chris         ahh thats all good then richard
03:58 hdl_laptop    hi all
03:58 richard       chris: loud explosion, smoke but no damage. blame is on a lightbulb
03:54 chris         good, doing what babies do, sleeping and eating :)
03:53 Amit          chris: how is ur baby
03:53 Amit          hi hdl
03:46 chris         ah of course :)
03:46 hdl_laptop    remember i have a baby too ;)
03:45 chris         yikes, you are awake early hdl_laptop
03:45 hdl_laptop    hi chris
03:40 munin         chris: The operation succeeded.
03:40 chris         @later tell gmcharlt check this out http://cola.tuxfamily.org/screenshots.php
03:38 chris         http://cola.tuxfamily.org/screenshots.php
03:36 Amit          namaste mason
03:35 Amit          heya mason
03:34 mason         hot in the city
03:34 richard       hi mason
03:34 richard       might even have young ben in tow
03:34 mason         howdy folks
03:34 chris         reckon so
03:33 richard       i'm guessing si will be hotfooting it to there from the library about now
03:33 richard       crikey
03:32 chris         did you see that richard?
03:32 chris         http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2531738/Explosion-in-Wellington-office-building
03:32 munin         Amit: I suck
03:32 Amit          munin: New Delhi is hot
03:31 Amit          hi munin
03:29 brendan       wow going to be hot there today
03:28 munin         brendan: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 36.0°C (8:30 AM IST on June 24, 2009). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
03:28 brendan       @wunder new delhi india
03:28 richard       hey amit
03:28 Amit          heya brendan good morning
03:28 Amit          hi mason, richard
03:28 brendan       hey amit - good evening
03:28 chris         hi amit
03:28 Amit          good morning #koha
03:27 Amit          hi brendan, chris
03:10 munin         brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.4°C (8:07 PM PDT on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Rising).
03:10 brendan       @wunder 93117
00:01 pianohacker   'night, #koha
23:16 chris         pass
23:13 Snow_Fox      out of curisoity on the liblime demo is there a example of overdue notices?
23:11 chris         (you probably know that)
23:11 chris         brendan: mets on espn
23:10 brendan       cya #koha
23:01 chris         *nod*
23:01 gmcharlt_away oh well, at least it's something for any library stuck with M$
23:00 gmcharlt_away heh
23:00 chris         darn, it looks like im still waiting for a decent ERMS
22:58 gmcharlt_away hmm - ERMes is an Access database
22:57 chris         someones parents were LOTR fans :)\
22:57 chris         galadriel chilton
22:56 chris         ive been wanting a decent ERMS
22:56 gmcharlt_away although I'm waiting for the day when somebody gives up and names their ERMs ERMess
22:56 chris         oh kick arse
22:56 gmcharlt_away another new library F/OSS project: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/2009-June/049625.html
22:55 brendan       he's was getting network timed out issues
22:55 chris         was fine from here
22:55 brendan       cool - yeah I haven't heard back from danny yet -- if he was able to access it
22:54 chris         good to see the press releases for the other libraries you are working on brendan
22:54 gmcharlt_away heh, I'm just finding dinner an attractive prospect at the moment
22:43 chris         hehe
22:43 brendan       a talent I wish not to have !
22:43 chris         :-)
22:43 brendan       hehe
22:43 chris         you scared him off brendan
22:38 chris         *nod*
22:38 gmcharlt      for the true Linux novice
22:37 chris         true
22:37 gmcharlt      *sticky
22:37 gmcharlt      chris: agreed, although if one isn't running a VM or from a future .deb, the crontabs will probably always be a bit stick
22:37 brendan       that's what coffee is for
22:37 chris         but i think we should work to make that as easy as possible, and deprecate nozebra
22:36 chris         i can see that for ppl setting it up for their little church library, or their home library, that getting zebra up and going can be a bit hard
22:36 brendan       hey gmcharlt good to hear from you :)
22:36 gmcharlt      then feel free to forget about NoZebra entirely ;)
22:35 brendan       was just a question that popped up and I wasn't sure.  Actually I don't think I've used Koha without Zebra.
22:34 brendan       correct!
22:34 chris         at least for any Koha's we set up
22:34 brendan       *nods* :)
22:33 chris         that there is no real reason to run nozebra
22:33 brendan       thanks gmcharlt
22:33 chris         im personally of the opinion
22:33 gmcharlt      brendan: in principle yes, but subject to same sorts of limitations as biblio NoZebra searching
22:32 brendan       do authority searches work with noZebra ?
22:21 rhcl          well, time to go home here. later~~
22:14 chris         hehehe
22:13 chris         my work here is done
22:13 chris         *nod*
22:12 rhcl          I see the potential now that I hadn't noticed previously. I may have to play around with it after Project Bloodroot.
22:11 rhcl          You know, I've been looking at the site. It appears to present a very good way for people to informally document "localized' (for lack of a better word) information like family histories, or a history of some local interest.
22:10 chris         yep
22:07 rhcl          This is a pretty good overview: http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/about
22:03 chris         http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/adopt_an_anzac/
22:02 wizzyrea      but got to go... ttyl
22:02 wizzyrea      ew, no I didn't see that
22:02 chris         http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/adopt_an_anzac/topics/show/533-gerald-sievers
22:01 chris         my fave bit of the horowhenua kete, is its adopt and anzac project
22:00 chris         so people can edit, discusss, see the changes, add images etc
21:59 chris         http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/site/topics/show/1556-koha-integrated-library-system
21:55 chris         but yeah it is for different purpose than dspace
21:51 chris         its in use in quite a lot of places
21:51 rhcl          It will be interesting to see how it (kete) develops.
21:51 chris         dspace is for more of the traditional repository
21:50 chris         kete is for community driven content
21:50 chris         basically the difference is
21:50 rhcl          I think the "giant" we are up against is contentDM.
21:50 rhcl          Well, my inability to grasp it is the problem I'm sure, but I just never could see what it would do, or that it was the solution I was looking for.
21:48 chris         i like to say its like dspace + wikipedia + youtube in one thing
21:48 chris         the problem is, its pretty hard to define
21:48 chris         yeah, i mentioned that to walter and Jo
21:47 rhcl          I actually took a pretty close look at the website. I'm certainly not trying to throw rocks at anything, but you know, for all the looking I did there was nothing on the site that said "Here's what Kete does".
21:47 chris         (set and forget)
21:47 chris         and i think sounds like it would fit that project better
21:47 chris         i have heard good things about dspace too
21:47 chris         even though im sure you have :)(
21:46 chris         im oblidged to ask if you have looked at kete :-)
21:46 chris         sweet
21:46 rhcl          For anybody that cares, we've been evaluating DSpace as a digital repository, and I'm pretty impressed with it so far. We will probably end up using it for our Project Bloodroot - a digitization of all the yearbooks from a early 1900's-1950s local cancer hospital.
21:42 chris         so im safe :)
21:42 rhcl          ICIC
21:41 chris         (from wikipedia)
21:41 chris         In New Zealand and Australia the word "bags" is used to the same effect. "Bagsy" and "dibs" are used occasionally with the same meaning. When calling bags, one will not usually include the word "on" - "Bags ____ing" is used in the case of verbs, and "Bags the ____" in the case of nouns. Bags is of particular use in opting out of an undesirable task, when saying "Bags not me" before anyone else in the group will exclude one from having to do that task.
21:41 rhcl          No, that's not familiar to me.
21:40 chris         (do you guys say that?)
21:40 rhcl          My tech services supervisor really really loved Inlex.
21:40 chris         bags not!!
21:39 rhcl          Ah, well, 3-5 years from now there will be an opportunity for some lucky company to help them migrate to Koha or something else. :)
21:38 chris         which I find distasteful
21:38 chris         they had a nasty policy of making you pay to get your own data out too
21:38 chris         also the librarians (at least for the 2 i did) hated it ... mind you, librarians hate every ILS so take that with a grain of salt
21:37 chris         they do um weird things with with their data
21:37 chris         and iirc nelsonville was spydus too
21:36 rhcl          So what do you know about it?
21:36 rhcl          I don't know anything about Spydus.
21:35 rhcl          Well, huh, I donno. Maybe too much Jimson weed?
21:35 chris         i mean, not going OSS is one thing ... but spydus ... yeeeuuuckkk
21:34 chris         moving to spydus? are they on crack?
21:34 chris         back
21:32 rhcl          Did you see the SMUG post from Hutchinson Community College about moving from Sirsi to Civica/CMI's Spydus?
21:30 rhcl          liz: you on?
21:30 munin         rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 1 hour and 34 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> sweet
21:30 rhcl          @seen wizzyrea
20:49 chris         back later
20:49 chris         right taking kahu out
20:45 ebegin        oh!  Thanks chris!
20:44 chris         check out the about page ebegin it should tell you
20:40 ebegin        I like them, but since there is some english mention (book, sound, tape), I can not use them in french.
20:39 ebegin        What is the copyrights on the "bridge" icon in Koha?
20:37 richard       hi
20:30 nicomo        bye
20:30 nicomo        time to go to bed here in Europe
20:29 nicomo        ok guys, have a nice roulette day
20:29 wizzyrea      sweet
20:29 gmcharlt      wizzyrea: looks OK by eyeball
20:29 wizzyrea      again
20:29 wizzyrea      i just sent it
20:29 wizzyrea      no, my reports template patch, the one with the former linebreak issues?
20:28 gmcharlt      wizzyrea: your game of russian roulete?
20:28 wizzyrea      gmcharlt: did that come through ok?
20:25 wizzyrea      SEE
20:25 munin         *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
20:25 wizzyrea      @roulette
20:25 ebegin        yes :)  who's next :)
20:24 munin         ebegin: *click*
20:24 ebegin        @roulette
20:24 munin         ebegin: *click*
20:24 ebegin        @roulette
20:24 ebegin        is that a real random...
20:24 ebegin        doh!
20:24 munin         *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
20:24 ebegin        @roulette
20:24 ebegin        :)
20:23 wizzyrea      Uh uh, you are not getting me to do that again...
20:23 ebegin        ouf
20:23 munin         ebegin: *click*
20:23 ebegin        @roulette
20:23 ebegin        Doh!
20:22 wizzyrea      aww
20:22 munin         *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
20:22 wizzyrea      @roulette
20:20 ebegin        hahaha
20:20 munin         ebegin: *click*
20:20 ebegin        @roulette
20:19 wizzyrea      kk
20:19 gmcharlt      wizzyrea: not yet - basic commands are documented in supybot doc
20:18 chris         gmcharlt might know
20:18 ebegin        wizzyrea, that what I tought... or having fun in #koha
20:18 wizzyrea      er, sorry... quoting is serious business
20:18 chris         but you can do @help
20:18 wizzyrea      we could call it "playtime in #koha"
20:18 chris         for munin? not that im aware of
20:17 ebegin        chris, is there a wiki for all those commands? :)
20:17 chris         heh
20:17 wizzyrea      it's like it knows what I'm thinking!!
20:17 wizzyrea      i love it that it always randomly assigns that one when I quote random
20:17 munin         wizzyrea: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009)
20:17 wizzyrea      @quote random
20:01 munin         gmcharlt: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 07:59 PM, June 23, 2009)
20:01 gmcharlt      @quote get 10
20:00 munin         gmcharlt: downloading the Perl source
20:00 gmcharlt      @quote show 10
20:00 munin         gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
20:00 gmcharlt      @quote remove 11
19:59 wizzyrea      DOH
19:59 chris         beatya
19:59 wizzyrea      lol
19:59 munin         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #11 added.
19:59 wizzyrea      @quote add Pianohacker (re: chris): You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)
19:59 munin         chris: The operation succeeded.  Quote #10 added.
19:59 chris         @quote add  < pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)
19:59 pianohacker   I recommend reports/issues_avg_stats.pl
19:59 rhcl          You should just read him some Koha source code. :)
19:58 chris         good point
19:58 chris         hehe
19:58 wizzyrea      O.O
19:58 pianohacker   You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)
19:57 chris         remind me why I thought a book about a monkey that does everything he is told not to do was a good idea to read to my son
19:41 rhcl          I have to go check on a computer that's updating....brb
19:40 rhcl          Ah
19:39 nicomo        this one's better for surfing
19:39 munin         nicomo: The current temperature in Boucau, Boucau, France is 23.1°C (9:38 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady).
19:39 nicomo        @wunder biarritz france
19:39 nicomo        especially at Leucate
19:39 nicomo        eh eh
19:39 rhcl          Life's a beach!
19:39 munin         rhcl: The current temperature in Narbonne, France is 25.4°C (8:59 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady).
19:39 rhcl          @wunder Leucate Plage France
19:38 nicomo        so : 18C to 23C from north to south at 9pm
19:38 munin         nicomo: The current temperature in Lille, France is 18.0°C (9:30 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
19:38 nicomo        @wunder lille france
19:37 nicomo        a at the beginning of this week I was at the northern border
19:37 nicomo        a bit warmer
19:37 munin         nicomo: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 22.0°C (9:30 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
19:37 chris         its 7 in my lounge
19:37 nicomo        @wunder marseille, France
19:37 nicomo        paul is at
19:37 wizzyrea      lucky :)
19:37 nicomo        that's spot in the middle of the country
19:36 nicomo        yep
19:36 munin         wizzyrea: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 19.0°C (8:59 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady).
19:36 wizzyrea      @wunder lyon, france
19:36 rhcl          Nicomo: So how is the WX in France?
19:35 rhcl          Yea. Pretty bad.
19:34 wizzyrea      it's icky here
19:34 wizzyrea      rhcl: is it so nasty hot in StJo too?
19:34 rhcl          104F is certainly potentially deadly to some people-the elderly and those without health problems with A/C.
19:34 wizzyrea      instead of trying to convert from the thing you know to the thing you don't
19:33 wizzyrea      that makes sense, calibrate your mind to equate the number you see with what you feel
19:32 rhcl          Actually, I lived a number of years (12+) in Korea, and I just developed a schizo mind--I never tried to covert, I just lived in one world (west vs east) and made that my frame of reference.
19:32 wizzyrea      yes, it was 104F
19:32 jdavidb       40C = 104F, not 178.  178 would be really deadly.
19:30 nicomo        40C feels hot to me, whereas 178F doesn't feel anything, neither hot nor cold
19:30 nicomo        C° in F°, my size in feet instead of cm, weight in stones instead of kg, etc
19:29 nicomo        rhcl: I always found measures to be the most difficult things to grasp in a different culture
19:27 rhcl          I just love the metric system. 40C is equal to 178F, but it sounds soooo nice and cool. 50 pounds (British) sounds cheap for a motherboard, but it's $394 in USD.
18:54 wizzyrea      on a bank
18:54 wizzyrea      yesterday I saw a 40C
18:54 wizzyrea      better... crap, if you like "excessive heat warnings"
18:54 chris         you all have better weather :P
18:53 wizzyrea      nice!
18:53 chris         ok ok i get it
18:53 munin         wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.2°C (1:53 PM CDT on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Thursday... 
18:53 wizzyrea      @wunder lawrence, ks
18:28 munin         jdavidb: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is 28.2°C (2:24 PM EDT on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa (Falling).
18:28 jdavidb       @wunder bethesda, md
18:25 munin         nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 20.1°C (7:59 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
18:25 nicomo        @wunder lyon, france
18:25 nicomo        3°C brrrr indeed
18:21 chris         brr
18:21 munin         chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 3.0°C (6:00 AM NZST on June 24, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
18:21 chris         @wunder wellington, new zealand
17:11 wizzyrea      (but I did save gmcharlt another support ticket)
17:11 wizzyrea      ^.^
17:11 wizzyrea      no fighting over news
17:10 wizzyrea      (which is what we did)
17:10 jdavidb       gmcharlt, you're taking all the fun out of it...  :P
17:10 wizzyrea      :P
17:09 wizzyrea      they don't need to edit news :{P
17:09 wizzyrea      yea, or take away the perm
17:09 gmcharlt      or for now, just remove the delete button from the home page
17:09 jdavidb       You'd almost need to do a more general-purpose messaging system for that...post the news, and it shotguns out in copies to those users.
17:09 wizzyrea      runs and hides
17:09 wizzyrea      I only want YOU and YOU and YOU and YOU to see this
17:08 wizzyrea      god like... a per login news display
17:08 jdavidb       That'd be a fancy-pants enhancement, to make it where it work like they *think* it works...
17:07 wizzyrea      i knorite :)
17:07 jdavidb       lol
16:54 wizzyrea      i lol'd
16:54 wizzyrea      and satisfactorily saying to themselves "yay! that pesky news is gone!"
16:54 wizzyrea      someone was clicking the delete link on the news
16:54 wizzyrea      had "edit news" capability
16:53 wizzyrea      and realized that most of the accounts that our users use to circulate
16:53 wizzyrea      so I thought about this
16:53 wizzyrea      is it a bug? am I doing it wrong? The humanity!
16:53 wizzyrea      so one of our staff members was posting items on the intranet, but was totally flummoxed by the fact that they weren't expiring at the right time
16:52 wizzyrea      oh, I have a bit of a funny koha story
15:21 |Lupin|       hi Melissa
15:01 wizzyrea      lots of hotness there
15:00 wizzyrea      or brief records/availability info in a tooltip
15:00 wizzyrea      I can so see the cover art in a clicky tooltip
14:59 owen          Yeah, I'm definitely looking into that one for future Koha use
14:56 wizzyrea      that qtip jquery plugin is neato
14:53 owen          I'm back at work after a long break, though, so everything's piled high
14:53 owen          I've got to find time to update my blog...haven't done so since just after KohaCon
14:49 owen          :)
14:49 wizzyrea      your fame is legendary, come on
14:48 wizzyrea      always famous to me :)
14:48 owen          Still famous after such a long absence?
14:48 wizzyrea      Ah the famous Owen returns!
13:27 |Lupin|       hdl_laptop: ok, thanks
13:24 hdl_laptop    |Lupin|: It is really much safer to create a local branch
13:22 |Lupin|       Or is it possible to work with the files obtain right after the clone operation ?
13:21 |Lupin|       Is it mandatory to create a branch in a git repository ?
13:20 |Lupin|       (page fixed)
12:42 |Lupin|       <code>$ git push ssh:yourserver.com/~you/proj.git master</code>
12:41 |Lupin|       There are HTML tags in http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage
12:20 davi          hi Amit
12:09 Amit          hi Lupin
12:08 chris         yep time for me to go to sleep
12:08 |Lupin|       hi Amit
12:07 Amit          hi davi
12:06 |Lupin|       chris: actually it starts to be late for you now, no ?
12:06 |Lupin|       chris: okay, thanks for the information
12:00 chris         but it doesnt keep a list of what was changed
12:00 chris         it (if you enable it) logs that a record was changed
12:00 chris         not what was changed, no