Time  Nick        Message
11:18 gmcharlt    g'night
11:17 chris       night
10:10 cait        hi Kivutar
09:58 Kivutar     and all
09:58 Kivutar     hello chris :)
09:58 chris       hi Kivutar
09:49 cait         :)
09:47 chris       as long as we beat australia, england and south africa :)
09:47 chris       i dont mind losing to france
09:47 cait        ouch
09:47 chris       yep, just watched france beat new zealand, first time in 15 years they have beaten us in new zealand
09:46 cait        and you? rugby?
09:44 cait        not really, doing some work for my distance study
09:44 chris       got plans for the weekend?
09:43 cait        hi chris
09:43 chris       hiya cait
01:31 munin       chris: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009)
01:31 chris       @quote random
01:13 chris       yep pretty cool
00:39 gmcharlt    chris: as you see, in PMs right away if target user is logged in
23:59 munin       brendan: The operation succeeded.
23:59 brendan     @later tell brendan - testing is fun
23:55 chris       ok, off for a bit
23:49 chris       d
23:49 chris       yep that worke
23:49 chris       test
23:47 munin       brendan: The operation succeeded.
23:47 brendan     @later tell chris - testing is fun
23:47 brendan     chris let's give it a try
23:42 chris       gmcharlt: does later work the next time munin sees them, or only on login?
23:08 munin       gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
23:08 gmcharlt    @later tell wizzyrea your mailer is not being kind to you today - resubmission of the reports-home patch is inserting additional line breaks, corrupting the patch
23:07 gmcharlt    heh
23:07 chris       shes probably out playing putt putt wearing lime green
23:05 gmcharlt    wizzyrea: about?
23:04 gmcharlt    atz: testing stopwords patch now
23:02 pianohacker Good night, #koha
22:46 atz         yeah, the promoter has good taste all-around
22:45 chris       atz: looks like a good gig
22:41 chris       http://www.amplifier.co.nz/default,17058.sm
22:41 chris       christchurch
22:41 chris       i lose
22:40 chris       im guessing she must be from auckland
22:40 chris       hehe
22:40 pianohacker Hmm. Fourth result for /msg munin google bachelorette is "MIDGET MARIACHI BAND NEEDED!!!"
22:39 chris       ohh really?
22:38 atz         http://bencopresents.com/2009/06/12/bonnie-prince-billy/
22:38 atz         i'll be seeing them (her) tonight opening for will oldham tonight.... the listing said they were from NZ
22:37 chris       hmmm doesnt ring a bell
22:37 atz         do you know the band "Bachelorette" ?
22:35 atz         greets chris
22:35 chris       hey atz :)
22:35 atz         gmcharlt: resent stopwords cleanup
21:35 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Near Mission - TC, Santa Barbara, California is 21.8°C (2:34 PM PDT on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
21:35 brendan     @wunder Santa Barbara, CA
21:24 pianohacker minor segmentation fault: What was the reasoning behind making circ/pendingreserves.pl default to yesterday, again?
21:00 chris       its certainly not 2000 anymore :)
21:00 chris       i love it how usually before i even get to read a mail on the koha list anymore, someone has already answered it
20:56 wizzyrea    erg, <curses> git!
20:56 wizzyrea    then it's not so good
20:55 wizzyrea    it's a good thing.. unless they laugh at you
20:55 chris       thats his thing :-)
20:55 chris       my dad tells stories that are plausible, but when you go to school and repeat them, people laugh
20:54 wizzyrea    bad puns are a mark of pride in my family :P
20:53 brendan     true
20:53 chris       its so bad its good
20:53 chris       lol
20:53 brendan     that's a bad pun - wizzyrea
20:53 wizzyrea    and we'd have a cafe that served cleopatra's caesar salad
20:53 wizzyrea    I always wanted to run a mini golf store... it would be egypt themed and we'd call it Tut's Putts
20:52 wizzyrea    Ah, native bird and plant themed mini golf! Nice!
20:52 chris       between/around his sculptures
20:51 chris       yep
20:51 wizzyrea    this is the guy with the mini golf?
20:51 chris       http://www.carlucciland.co.nz/gallery/gal2.htm
20:51 chris       hes a bit loopy, but kinda awesome
20:50 chris       he ran for mayor
20:50 chris       http://www.carlucciland.co.nz/
20:49 chris       heh
20:49 wizzyrea    as long as you're not keeping score :P
20:49 wizzyrea    well hey, that makes it happy for sure
20:49 chris       some crazy guy in happy valley has built a mini golf course on his land
20:48 chris       same with real golf
20:48 chris       oh yeah, id be less angry if there was no score
20:48 chris       get in the effin hole already!!!!!!
20:47 chris       ohhh i always end up getting really angry at mini golf
20:47 wizzyrea    yea
20:47 chris       wizzyrea: putt putt = mini golf?
20:47 chris       gmcharlt: hehe thats pretty funny
20:47 wizzyrea    hehe it's ok. I'm the only person I know whose greatest ambition on their birthday is to partake in the yearly putt putt extravaganza
20:46 chris       wizzyrea: i only got the lime green bit right :)
20:45 gmcharlt    heh - Ask Metafilter as a source of III support: http://ask.metafilter.com/124641/Illuminate-the-dark-arts-of-OPAC-searching-of-MARC-fields
20:44 wizzyrea    and I"m married to him :P
20:44 wizzyrea    I can think of only one person that knows the answer to all of those questions (besides my mom)
20:44 wizzyrea    chris: not yet ;)
20:41 chris       heh
20:36 munin       ryan: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3219 critical, P2, ---, galen.charlton@liblime.com, ASSIGNED, malformed or missing amazon content can cause fatal error in both opac and staff interfaces.
20:35 ryan        @bug 3219
20:35 gmcharlt    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrFgRAcr0jg
20:33 chris       damnit where is my robot that makes me coffee already, i was promised the future would have them
20:28 chris       hmm 1 out of 5 correct ... it seems i dont know you very well wizzyrea  :)
20:18 rhcl        Hi Chris
20:15 wizzyrea    mornin chris
20:15 danny       morning chris
20:15 gmcharlt    hi
20:14 chris       morning
20:05 gmcharlt    +! to -nosanitize
20:05 gmcharlt    fredericd: interesting idea
19:46 fredericd   YAML::XS? storing YAML MARC::Record in DB rather than marcxml representation?
19:45 fredericd   Make me feel also like MARC::Record would benefit to be refactored. It is incredibly slow. Serializing /deserializing MARC::Record in XML is obviously not a good option.
19:44 fredericd   I've just use it on a 230,000 biblio records DB. rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b takes 45min normally. With --marcxml option, same rebuild takes 15min.
19:43 fredericd   gmcharlt: Maybe a -nosanitize parameter should be better? Combined with -x
18:27 wizzyrea    k ty
18:27 gmcharlt    wizzyrea: just the reports
18:27 wizzyrea    (sry for the inconvenience >.<)
18:26 wizzyrea    just the reports, or the suggestions patch too?
18:25 gmcharlt    thx
18:25 wizzyrea    ok I"ll try again
18:25 wizzyrea    doh
18:22 gmcharlt    and got mangled
18:22 gmcharlt    it looks like they were sent via the OS X mail client
18:22 gmcharlt    wizzyrea: I can't apply your reports patches
17:55 gmcharlt    also, I'm thinking that at least basic XML well-formedness checking may still be needed
17:54 gmcharlt    it will need some work - like -x, doesn't work for auths & DOM
17:54 gmcharlt    hi fredericd
17:40 pianohacker No problem
17:40 joetho      THanks jessie
17:40 joetho      that doesn't sound like "orbitz" at all, not even in my cluttered head.
17:40 joetho      YES!
17:39 pianohacker joetho: There's pastebin
17:35 joetho      I keep thinking orbitz and that is for plane tickets.
17:35 joetho      it generates a URL to send to your helper
17:34 joetho      anybody remember the name of that website where you can post blocks of code for others to help with?
17:34 joetho      hello-
17:33 fredericd   slef: to HEAD
17:33 slef        bbl
17:32 slef        fredericd: wouldn't be applied to what?
17:31 munin       slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3301 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jmf@liblime.com, NEW, rebuild_zebra is slow
17:31 slef        @bug 3301
17:31 slef        setting PATCH-Sent on 3301
17:18 fredericd   http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-June/003650.html
17:18 fredericd   Any reason why this patch wouldn't be applied?
17:18 fredericd   gmcharlt: hello
16:29 pianohacker bye
16:29 kf          starting weekend now - bye #koha :)
16:27 pianohacker </lazyweb>
16:26 pianohacker Hmm. Does anyone know what the purpose of circ/billing.pl is ? (came upon it by accident)
16:01 slef        found it... it was next to where the phone was :)
16:01 jwagner     slef, at least you know where your ear is :-)
16:01 slef        next question, where's my earpiece
16:00 slef        ouch
15:59 gmcharlt    just that kind of day - just had to call my cell phone to find it
15:55 schuster    Bless YOU!  My boss is going on Vacation next week so trying to get as much done before she leaves as possible.
15:54 gmcharlt    schuster: working on it, will have numbers for you today
15:54 schuster    gmcharlt - I've sent you and daniel 3 emails about enhancement projects.  It's end of year and trying to spend money ASAP...  would appreciate Estimates to work from.
15:53 mahesh_c    yes,Failed.. the userPassword is stored using SSHA hashing , is it make any problem ?
15:51 gmcharlt    have you tried with other accounts on your LDAP directory?
15:51 gmcharlt    mahesh_c: both logs are simply saying that the comparison is false
15:41 mahesh_c    logs at http://pastebin.com/m5cb038c2
15:37 gmcharlt    ?
15:37 gmcharlt    mahesh_c: any interesting messages in the Apache error log
15:36 mahesh_c    auth_by_bind also saying same !
15:35 gmcharlt    mahesh_c: one quick tip - if you're running Koha from Git HEAD, try switching on the auth_by_bind option
15:35 mahesh_c    my ldap db is the same for samba and unix authentication
15:34 mahesh_c    its always says "ldap_compare" failed
15:34 mahesh_c    i have problem with koha to ldap authentication
15:34 mahesh_c    hello
15:10 jwagner     Your best seems pretty good :-)
15:10 wizzyrea    jwagner: I do my best
15:06 atz         my more curious cat got himself locked in the garage overnight... found him slightly skinnier this morning
14:59 jwagner     wizzyrea, thanks.  Saves me some work on my to-do list :-)
14:56 kf          or something I did
14:55 wizzyrea    working on a couple of niggly things today :)
14:55 wizzyrea    haven't sent it but will
14:55 wizzyrea    jwagner: yes ma'am
14:54 kf          thx for listening, just wanted to make sure, its not a problem with our installation
14:51 hdl_laptop  and testing more than once if possible
14:51 hdl_laptop  thanks
14:50 gmcharlt    kf: thanks for catching this
14:49 gmcharlt    testing++
14:49 gmcharlt    well, I think we can all agree on something:
14:48 slef        Elwell: careful. We'll upset someone.
14:48 Elwell      gmcharlt: whoa! hang on, you'll be doing things like regression tests soon :-)
14:47 slef        kf: the sort that you'd wear a brown bag over your head to hide
14:47 slef        gmcharlt: you'll be expecting RMs to run make test next
14:47 slef        kf: so called because it fixes an embarrassing wart
14:46 kf          slef: brown bag release?
14:45 slef        so it gets to be a brown bag release, who cares?
14:45 gmcharlt    yep, 3.0.3
14:45 slef        call it 3.00.03
14:45 jwagner     wizzyrea, for ages I've been meaning to put a direct link to Saved Reports from the main menu.  Can't quite tell -- does your fix do that?
14:45 gmcharlt    but it does require a new package IMO
14:45 gmcharlt or something
14:45 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop: you'll have to bump up the version number
14:45 slef        so does the affect all 3.00.02 copies or just some?
14:45 gmcharlt    looks like shouldn't have been cherry-picked to 3.0.x
14:45 hdl_laptop  gmcharlt: do you have any objection to that ?
14:44 kf          thx!
14:44 gmcharlt    slef: c16d624f8f2fcf4433fc8ac90ee53ebe9a736594 in head
14:44 wizzyrea    kf: me too :D
14:44 hdl_laptop  and relase a new package
14:44 kf          wizzyrea: I like the idea of less clicks
14:43 slef        Joe's cleanup patch?
14:42 hdl_laptop  will update that then.
14:42 munin       gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2991 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, sedwards@alloycomputing.com, REOPENED, Request hold on multiple items at one time
14:42 gmcharlt    @bug 2991
14:42 wizzyrea    thanks
14:42 wizzyrea    I'll add the dictionary and call it good
14:42 slef        gmcharlt: bug/patch id?
14:42 wizzyrea    main guided reports page, that is
14:41 gmcharlt    thus making Joe's cleanup patch dependent on that enhancement
14:41 slef        Fw http://identi.ca/lisnews Amazon may launch the Kindle in the UK this year .. http://bit.ly/IbTaS
14:41 wizzyrea    it's ok, I think you'd still need that main page, technically we're duplicating content but I'm ok with that
14:41 gmcharlt    the variables in question are from sedwards' multi-hold enhacnement
14:41 hdl_laptop  git checkout --track -b stable origin/3.0.x is ok.
14:41 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop: I'm getting the same compilation errors in opac-reserve.pl direct from the tar package
14:40 hdl_laptop  if not :
14:40 kf          no
14:40 hdl_laptop  kf: have you done any customization on opac-reserve.pl ?
14:40 slef        wizzyrea: sorry, my bad. I thought we'd still need to click through to the list of guided reports.
14:40 slef        kf: I'm not sure, sorry.  hdl_laptop seems to know what the problem is.
14:40 wizzyrea    I think that's what I did? but I did't link to dictionary... I could add that
14:39 kf          slef / hdl: what can we do to make it work in our test nistallation now? without starting from scratch?
14:39 wizzyrea    1s, looking
14:39 slef        with a link through to view-dictionary?
14:38 slef        ok, cool.  Why don't we add the list of guided reports from /cgi-bin/koha/reports/guided_reports.pl to reports-home?
14:38 wizzyrea    you can still get to the dictionary the old way
14:37 wizzyrea    screenshot
14:37 slef        wizzyrea: is that a screenshot or is that something I'm not seeing?
14:37 wizzyrea    yea
14:37 gmcharlt    fine with me
14:37 gmcharlt    adding that to reports-home?
14:37 wizzyrea    but I wondered if anyone had strong opinions about it
14:37 wizzyrea    so I wanted to make this http://www.screencast.com/users/lizrea/folders/Jing/media/6582f726-2ab1-4d76-ad90-52c0c65c9c20 change
14:36 wizzyrea    I (and others in my office) didn't like that you had to click through to the guided reports
14:36 slef        why doesn't koha complain if zebra doesn't answer?
14:36 wizzyrea    ok, i'm looking at the reports-home template
14:36 slef        once I debugged a zebrasrv that had stopped
14:36 kf          ok, I will tell my colleague (he is responsible for installation)
14:36 slef        hold worked fine on my local copy
14:35 hdl_laptop  I had updated that before releasing the package.
14:35 hdl_laptop  kf: I think it is a git rebase that you failed to do.
14:35 wizzyrea    yay ok
14:35 kf          so its a general problem or one with our installation?
14:34 gmcharlt    wizzyrea: individual opinions are more likely, but go ahead ;)
14:34 wizzyrea    may I ask your collective opinions about something?
14:34 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop: looks like problem is a bad merge
14:34 kf          had to ask, its a git install
14:34 gmcharlt    slef: that be the one
14:33 slef        what was 3.00.02's release patchlevel?
14:33 slef        Koha, Koha DB 3.0002012
14:33 gmcharlt    kf: if so, there are a couple commits to revert that should get you working
14:32 gmcharlt    kf: are you running from a git install, by any chance?
14:32 kf          Tried when logged in and when logged out, error is the same
14:31 kf          yes
14:31 slef        just search for a book and try to hold it?
14:31 kf          thx slef
14:30 slef        ok, let me try a hold on my local koha
14:29 kf          oh g
14:29 kf          http://pastebin.ca/1457785
14:28 kf          slef: added myself to irc regulars - error message follows :)
14:26 slef        kf: can you put it in http://pastebin.ca ?
14:25 kf          somebody using 3.0.2? tried to make an hold in OPAC and got loooong error message :(
14:25 slef        Anyone, please feel free to add your name and a short description to http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=irc_regulars
14:24 slef        whois rhcl
13:13 kf          hah, THX galen :)
13:13 munin       kf: The operation succeeded.  Quote #5 added.
13:13 kf          @quote add <jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????
13:13 gmcharlt    anybody can register themselves with munin that way
13:12 gmcharlt    kf: then the @quote add will work for you
13:12 gmcharlt    kf: then do /msg munin identify kf your_password
13:11 gmcharlt    kf: do a /msg munin register kf some_password_you_make_up
13:11 kf          ;)
13:11 kf          chris added one of mine... not sure if this is a good sign
13:11 gmcharlt    kf: hang on, I'll post instrutions
13:10 kf          ok, dont understand him, but I get it that I cant do it
13:10 jwagner     Hey!  That would be my second quote in the list!!!  I must be doing something right....
13:10 munin       kf: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:10 kf          @quote add < jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????
13:09 kf           @quote add <jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????
13:09 kf          perhaps bug nicole about it
13:08 kf          http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/serials/managing-serial-claims - note at bottom: unfinished
13:08 Elwell      still, at least I can hang up my koha file for a while -- 'We are not currently planning to put our catalogue online, but you are welcome to come in and browse here in the Library.
13:07 jwagner     Pity Chris went off to bed -- I can see a new T-shirt design to compete with his purple blob....
13:07 kf          oh, I really know that feeling...
13:06 jwagner     Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????
13:05 kf          wondering myself now
13:05 kf          sorry
13:05 jwagner     OK, thanks.  We'll take a look at that manual as well.
13:03 kf          I think its not in overdues.pl, but it should do something when clicking on send letter... atm i can only export data for reclamation to excel
13:01 jwagner     I couldn't see how to set a trigger for them.  Maybe more like holds?  That uses a notice file but doesn't go through the script?
13:00 kf          I dont think that claims and routing list can be sent automatically yet
12:59 kf          There is an old manual for serials http://www.kohadocs.org/ , but its not up to date
12:59 |Lupin|     till soon, everybody
12:58 jwagner     I didn't find any serials "how-to" entries on notices or claims on the manual site.  Any other resources?
12:58 kf          when receiving the item
12:57 andrew      nick Elwell
12:57 kf          hm. I routing list letter is in notices, but I thought you would print it
12:57 andrew      better - I'd joined the freenode version. Thought it was a bit empty :-)
12:53 |Lupin|     bye chris
12:53 jwagner     I haven't done much with it.  Am I correct in thinking that both serial claims and routing lists get handled via notices?  If so, do those get processed/sent by the overdues.pl cron? Or is there another script to run?
12:52 kf          I'm no expert in serials, but played aroud with module for a presentation - perhaps I can give some hints
12:51 jwagner     G'night
12:51 kf          night chris
12:51 kf          hey g
12:51 chris       night all
12:51 chris       ok, its bedtime for me, hopefully someone is around to answer your serials question jwagner
12:50 munin       chris: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009)
12:50 chris       @quote random
12:50 munin       chris: The operation succeeded.  Quote #4 added.
12:50 chris       @quote add < kf> I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;)
12:49 kf          I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;)
12:45 jwagner     Someone around for a couple of serials questions?
12:41 |Lupin|     so exciting...
12:41 chris       full of paradoxes and blackholes :-)
12:40 chris       an alternate reality :)
12:40 hdl_laptop  e
12:40 hdl_laptop  even a world, maybe a univers
12:38 |Lupin|     library science seems to be a word in itself...
12:38 |Lupin|     I think I understand things a bit better
12:38 |Lupin|     the discussion continued on the french channel
12:38 |Lupin|     and thanks
12:38 |Lupin|     np
12:29 nicomo      sorry, wrong channel
12:29 nicomo      opac-user.pl
12:29 magnusenger That's the way of the MARC: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd00x.html
12:21 |Lupin|     slef: actually it's _in_ Paris. Jussieu is the name of one of the campuses
12:19 slef        |Lupin|: I thought jussieu.fr was near Paris
12:18 |Lupin|     marc question: is it correct that the field tags are sparse ? like in block 0, there is 001, 005, 010, so that not allnumbers correspond to some field. Is this true ?
12:16 chris       if you wanted to fix them, and send patches, we would be very very happy :)
12:16 chris       yeah
12:13 jatillaso   we try to run under PerlRegistry, but we get a lot of error 500
12:06 chris       :)
12:05 |Lupin|     actually there is a variant of football (could be any team game actually) where each time a player from team 1 makes a pint he goes in team 2, and a player from team 2 goes in team 1. I like this idea
12:04 |Lupin|     I'll keep that one in mind
12:04 |Lupin|     :-)))
12:01 chris       :)
12:01 chris       in football, the fans do
12:01 chris       in rugby the players fight
12:01 magnusenger gmcharlt: and the prize could be a Pearl
12:01 paul_p      that's a good starter :D
12:01 |Lupin|     paul_p: thanks foryour kind invitation. I'm not a rugby fan, but I think I like the rugby supporters much more than the football ones.