Time Nick Message 11:56 gmcharlt ah, sounds like koha-devel is more for you 11:56 Hui_Nan_ translation is the last task 11:56 Hui_Nan_ actually i would like to see how to implement Koha at my library - fix bugs, add features which are required 11:54 Hui_Nan_ not yet 11:54 gmcharlt Hui_Nan_: you're subscribed to koha-translate, right? 11:50 Hui_Nan_ good 11:48 gmcharlt Hui_Nan_: I'm going to cherry-pick the Russian and Ukrainian installer SQL from 3.0.x into HEAD 11:45 Hui_Nan_ always welcome 11:45 gmcharlt Hui_Nan_: thanks for checking your mailer :) 11:44 Hui_Nan_ evening :-) 11:35 gmcharlt good morning 08:41 chris :) 08:40 Hui_Nan_ wow! i'm there! ;-) 08:39 Hui_Nan_ so I sent patches using --smtp-server option %-) 08:37 Hui_Nan_ it seems to me that git send-email does some kind of local delivery despite the smtp server is configured in ~/.gitconfig 08:36 Hui_Nan_ no, I'm not listed 08:35 chris in case i missed seeing it 08:35 chris http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-May/date.html#start 08:28 Hui_Nan_ ok 08:28 chris because we didnt see that patch arrive at the patches@koha.org mailing list 08:27 chris gmcharlt asked me to tell you to check your mailer 08:27 Hui_Nan_ how much time does it takes for patch to be accepted? 08:27 chris hi Hui_Nan_ 08:27 Hui_Nan_ hi all! 07:54 chris Biblibre have been very busy, but i think they have finished meetings and conferences for a while so they might be more vocal 07:53 thd BibLibre have not said much about the new website on the public list despite the suggestion out of ignorance from kados that koha-fr.org should simply be redirected to koha.org . 07:50 chris i hope not, but i fear that maybe yes 07:47 thd I am supposing that LibLime is going to put forward a Koha foundation in much the same way: join it with their rules or be left out. 07:46 chris i dont know, not that ive seen 07:41 thd Are kados and tina responding to website issues off the public Koha lists? 07:40 thd EasyBCD solved the Vista and XP boot problem where Grub failed 07:40 thd I have the volunteering spirit but discovered that grub does not play well with multiple Windows installations on the same machine. 07:39 chris im sure they are reading, i just dont think slef has been seeing much action wrt the website 07:38 chris ahh yeah, always a good thing to not volunteer 07:37 thd things are more or less OK as long as I stop volunteering to fix Vista 07:37 thd chris: slef has implied yesterday on the koha list in the context of the new website that kados and tina are not reading the koha list. 07:36 chris hiya thd, hows things? 07:35 thd chris: good evening 07:34 chris evening 05:47 brendan goodnight #koha -- I'm off to bed 05:42 ebegin no problem. :) 05:41 Amit sory ebegin 05:41 Amit no ebgin 05:36 ebegin are you using it internally? 05:36 ebegin :) 05:36 Amit ebegin: not as good as koha 05:35 ebegin Amit, I see that osslabs offers support for dotProject. How good is this software? (do you know it) 05:35 brendan veg 05:34 Amit brendan; r u like which type of indian food 05:34 brendan I'd say hire someone with OCD disorder 05:34 Amit ok 05:34 ebegin I'm looking for a good project management software :) 05:34 brendan not sure about the spelling 05:33 brendan yogurt and vegetables 05:33 Amit rita means? brendan 05:33 brendan heh 05:33 ebegin yep, 1h33am 05:33 brendan ebegin -- kind of late there for you? 05:32 brendan I also like to have rita 05:32 Amit sag dal yes i know 05:31 Amit i love razma rice 05:31 brendan not sure if I said that correctly -- the sag dal part that is 05:31 Amit hmm 05:31 brendan I can make some -- ok tasting -- sag dal 05:31 brendan I still have a little bit of hot curry powder left from my last trip to delhi... 05:30 Amit Taj Mahal marble 05:30 Amit hmm 05:30 brendan Amit -- some hot curry powder.... or some marble from agra ! 05:29 brendan First time it came that close for me -- but there has been three fires in the last 8 months... I don't think there is anything left to burn 05:29 Amit chicken curry 05:29 Amit brendan: which type curry powder? 05:28 Amit right now i m working in www.osslabs.biz bangalore India 05:28 brendan cool -- Amit you should send me some curry powder! 05:28 ebegin amit, where are you now? 05:28 ebegin Was it the first time that it came that close? 05:28 Amit brendan: on 5th june i m going to delhi 05:27 brendan the fire was scary -- but also kind of exciting to watch at the same time 05:26 brendan yes -- I'm on the road now - traveling 05:26 ebegin Everything is under control now? 05:25 ebegin I followed some of you IRC episode about the situation in Santa Barbara, but I stayed quiet :) 05:25 brendan I think this is the first hello on IRC... good to finally get a chance to say hi -- ebegin 05:24 Amit yes using marc edit ebegin 05:24 Amit check 05:24 Amit brendan:http://kohav3demo.osslabs.biz/ 05:24 Amit hi ebegin 05:24 brendan hi ebegin 05:24 ebegin hi brendan. 05:24 ebegin Hi amit. Having fun with Marc Edit I guess 05:23 brendan cool -- good luck amit 05:23 Amit hdl 05:23 Amit hi 05:23 Amit from access to marc 05:16 brendan_ what are you migrating data from ? 05:15 brendan_ getting ready to go to bed 05:15 Amit brendan: u? 05:14 Amit doing some data migration 05:14 Amit everything is fine 05:09 brendan_ how you doing? 05:09 brendan_ heya amit 04:51 Amit good morning #koha 04:51 Amit hi chris, mason, brendan 00:15 Jo cool. thanks for your help gents 00:14 gmcharlt yup 00:13 jmr_ you could also creat a report and download the csv file, and further manipulate it to your hearts content in word or excel 00:10 Jo oh cool - i'll have a look. thanks. 00:10 Jo i have a online generator which does them 1 at a time (producing gif files) 00:10 gmcharlt access via same interface as spine labels 00:10 gmcharlt Jo: it can print patron cards 00:10 Jo i have to make some temporary patron cards, so would like a barcode and human readable number printed above or below as well. 00:09 Jo hiya 00:08 jmr_ jo do you want to print the barcodes in barcode font? 23:05 chris hmm dont know about that one 23:02 Jo Hey, does anyone know if I can use koha 3.0 to produce a run of patron barcode numbers? 23:02 Jo (and i'm glad bub didn't come last night .. would have been a cold one) 23:01 Jo how are you today 23:01 Jo Morena 23:00 chris hi jo 22:59 Jo Morning all 22:03 chris cya ebegin 21:53 ebegin Good evening everyone! 21:47 chris cya wizzyrea 21:47 wizzyrea (and good song, chris ;) 21:47 chris yeah grooveshark does a lot right 21:47 wizzyrea ok, I'm giving up and going home. ttyl everyone 21:47 wizzyrea oh man, grooveshark is the shizzle 21:46 ebegin chris: the grooveshark interface is awesome! I like the way we can queue song at the bottom of the screen 21:31 chris today im not on koha work tho, but tomorrow i will try to go through and figure out whats being worked on and by whom and how i can help :) 21:31 chris atz: i think i even have a work request from hlt about filed yesterday 21:29 chris ebegin: cool :) 21:29 chris i think now we have a much better handle on how different libraries want it to work too, so can do a decent job on it this time round 21:29 atz yeah, i've been complaining about fines since I started on koha 21:28 chris but it all got munged up about 5 different times :) 21:28 chris (payments) 21:28 chris that was originally what the accountoffsets was for 21:27 chris it certainly wasnt perfect, but hlt were happy with it for 8 years, so they will want it back .. fixed and working properly :) 21:27 atz or we need different tables for fines and credits/payments 21:27 chris *nod* 21:27 atz it needs to be implemented as a foreign key constraint referencing the same table 21:26 ebegin chris: akoha was developped here in montreal :) 21:26 atz chris: the "directed payment" was never properly implemented 21:18 chris kahurangi is impatient to 'play cars' which is apparently what is going to happen when he is born 21:17 chris well he isnt due til june 6 ... but yeah hes hanging in there longer than his older brother did 21:16 wizzyrea oof, mama's probably getting impatient 21:14 chris not yet 21:14 wizzyrea chris: still no wee cormack? 21:13 chris right thats my good deed for the day done, back to work 21:12 chris how could you not play :) 21:12 chris named after A Koha 21:12 chris http://akoha.com/people/ranginui/ 21:00 Sharon here's another spec for partial payment of fines for ICAN 20:57 Sharon programmers work is never done 20:57 chris i will try to look later, unfortunately at the moment i have to go write jquery to make comments on blogs expand and collapse 20:56 Sharon I'm too lazy to go find the rfc and see exactly what they're fixing 20:56 chris yay 20:55 Sharon Chris that's what we surmised from a past discussion on the list and I was told WALDO is sponsoring some work on fines, too. 20:55 chris HLT will want that back too 20:55 chris yeah that definitely needs to be fixed, you used to be able to, on the pay screen you used to be able to select the fines to pay OR enter amount at the bottom 20:55 Sharon Schuster bug 2771 seems to address the 245 issues, it's assigned to Paul P. 20:52 Sharon Schuster sorry, distractions. we are seeing frustrated librarians dealing with fines b/c a fine is treated as an event, instead of a debit/credit on an account. Each $.05 fine event has to be dealt with in whole, you can't pay partial fines. As I understand the situation. 20:49 pianohacker cya all 20:45 wizzyrea schuster: supposedly the 245 stuff has been fixed? 20:43 chris ahh 20:43 gmcharlt Dan just tested and signed off on them 20:42 gmcharlt heh - they're my patches 20:41 chris good grief daniel must have been sitting on those patches for a while, or he had an extraordinarily productive day :-) 20:38 chris man who shifted the south pole into wellington brrrr 20:36 schuster Also are you doing a support request on the 245 b/p issue I saw noted at Keggers? or how should we handled that as that came up again yesterday here. 20:35 schuster What are you seeing Sharon dealing with fines? 19:20 Sharon will do, danke 19:20 gmcharlt yes 19:19 Sharon BTW, the LOST status is NOT behaving/triggering the way the manual says it should. worth a support request? 19:19 Sharon ok, thanks 19:19 gmcharlt 3.2 19:19 Sharon gmcharlt is that WALDO work for 3.0 or 3.2? 19:18 gmcharlt but explicitly testing for a waiting status is probably clearer 19:18 gmcharlt pianohacker: well, if everything is in transit, nothing is waiting 19:18 gmcharlt Sharon: yes, we're doing some work to clean it for WALDO 19:17 Sharon we have 2 of our 20+ libraries interested in co-sponsoring 19:16 Sharon we're discussing the fines module - is a re-write in the works? 19:08 pianohacker *waiting tab 19:08 pianohacker It's possible it was meant to not show the holds tab if everything was in transit, but why would you want that? 19:08 gmcharlt pianohacker: one question might be why atdestination is never set 19:05 pianohacker Sorry 'bout that 19:05 pianohacker Ah, line numbers were shifted by some edits I'd done. 111 and 147. 19:04 pianohacker Let me check to make sure something odd isn't going on with my git 19:03 gmcharlt what version of the file are you talking about? there's nothing like that at line 129 of the tempalte 18:56 pianohacker I'm going to try to fix that up and send in a patch, unless someone knows why that tab was broken 18:55 pianohacker git blame shows that those two lines were last edited in the 3.0 merge 18:54 pianohacker By removing <!-- TMPL_IF atdestination --> from lines 129 and 165 of opac-user.tmpl, you get a tab that shows only those holds that are waiting 17:51 Sharon Found it in the manual...appendix 17:49 Sharon We are having an argument, I mean discussion, about whether setting an item to LOST is behaving different than it did. 17:49 Sharon where is there info in the KOha manual about the the Lost status and how it behaves in the catalog? 17:37 wizzyrea Only if it bounces 17:37 wizzyrea Ooh! 17:37 pianohacker Instead of a plaque, you get this lovely rubber cheesecake 17:37 wizzyrea ./facepalm 17:37 pianohacker Hehehe 17:37 gmcharlt wizzyrea: you're now QA manager, btw 17:36 wizzyrea man I walk away for a second and look what happens ^.^ 17:36 wizzyrea lol noes he's gone 17:33 joetho whoops, I just realized that only shows up live. Sharon volunteered Liz, who almost immediately logged off. heh heh heh 17:31 joetho sharon: well there's yer answer, rotchair (see 12:17 entry) 16:55 pianohacker Sounds like quite the installfest 16:54 Sharon joetho Liz created a test installation here within the last two weeks and might be willing to help...if you ask nicely 16:53 gmcharlt Koha, a couple bacon donuts on the grill .. heaven! 16:53 gmcharlt joetho: sounds like a perfect Memorial Day activity to me 16:52 joetho I am working on having my own testbed Koha but it isn't going to happen today or tomorrow. 16:52 gmcharlt tip o' the tree 16:51 joetho see? 16:51 joetho I figure he has his own stuff like that. 16:51 gmcharlt joetho: "development tip" that I mentioned is just shorthand for say that I tested against the most recent version from the public Koha git 16:51 joetho Galen did, at like 10:48 my time, speaking to you. 16:50 joetho whoops. 16:50 Sharon joetho what development tip did I mention? 16:49 joetho sharon: what is the "development tip" you mention? 16:22 gmcharlt you're welcome 16:21 jatillaso thanks, bye 16:21 jatillaso i have to see if that works with it, and tell you 16:20 jatillaso i'll try it 16:20 jatillaso thank you, 16:19 gmcharlt jatillaso: yes 16:18 jatillaso where i found Apache::Registry, i replace it with Apache::PerlRun ? 16:17 gmcharlt but requires a lot more cleanup of the Perl code to completely remove global and package-level variables 16:17 gmcharlt Apache::Registry is another way of running Perl scripts under mod_perl 16:17 jatillaso where can i change it? 16:17 jatillaso and what is Apache::Registry ?? 16:16 jatillaso aha, 16:15 gmcharlt gmcharlt: no; some do, but I'm not sure about the current 3.x 16:14 jatillaso gmcharlt, do you configure any koha in mod_perl, and it runs correctly, without my problems? 16:13 jatillaso and mod_perl could help us because it's faster than cgi 16:13 jatillaso were developing some koha tools to a library that it will have lot of visits 16:07 jatillaso i follow the koha documentation about configure mod_perl, but this is whats happens, sometimes works and sometimes not. Produces a 500 error, and in koha log: undefined subrutine 16:04 jatillaso what is Apache::Registry ?? 16:03 jatillaso or PerlSetVar PerlRunOnce On 16:02 jatillaso and thats it? 16:02 jatillaso in apache2.conf i put a line like: PerlRunOnce On 16:02 jatillaso aha 16:02 gmcharlt in your Apache config 16:02 gmcharlt 16:02 gmcharlt and you may need to set PerlSetVar PerlRunOnce On 16:01 gmcharlt jatillaso: at best Koha will work with Apache::PerlRun, not Apache::Registry 16:01 jatillaso how to run koha without problems under mod_perl? 16:01 jatillaso do you know any tips about it? 16:00 jatillaso and it tells that the possible cause is global variables 16:00 jatillaso this is explained in this link http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/porting.html#Sometimes_it_Works__Sometimes_it_Doesn_t 16:00 jatillaso sometimes it works and sometimes not 16:00 jatillaso but i have errors sometimes 15:59 jatillaso i'm trying to run koha with mod_perl 15:59 jatillaso hi gmcharlt 15:59 gmcharlt jatillaso: what's up? 15:59 jatillaso anyone could help me? 15:58 jatillaso i have a questions about mod_perl and koha 15:58 ccurry ebegin: thanks for your help. Will do 15:58 jatillaso hello 15:58 ebegin ccurry, check Joe's answer to your email. 15:57 ccurry It must be accessing the LDAP server, right, if it's recognizing the user and returning LDAP errors? 15:57 root quit 15:57 root q 15:57 ccurry ebegin: tried your mapping; still can't log in as AD user and borrow database not updated. :( 15:54 Sharon we may discuss paying for an enhancement that changes a LOST status whenever the barcode is checked in, regardless of how that status was set (via a patron checkout or by a staff member changing it) 15:53 ebegin ccurry, here is my mapping http://pastebin.ca/1428887 15:52 ccurry ebegin: sure; will do. 15:52 Sharon our libraries were assuming that checking in a missing/lost item changed the status from lost. They'll be glad to know that this patch is coming. 15:52 ebegin ccurry, can you try samaccountname, all lowercase 15:52 gmcharlt the status doesn't currently get changed 15:52 Sharon gmcharlt OK, good to know. We can report on the damaged items to keep track of them. 15:52 gmcharlt if the item just has the lost status, but no loan to a patron 15:51 gmcharlt Sharon: but note that that if works only if there's a loan 15:51 gmcharlt Sharon: it does work for any lost status 15:51 gmcharlt Sharon: it wouldn't affect the damaged field 15:50 ccurry ebegin: http://pastebin.ca/1428881 15:49 Sharon gmcharlt is it just LOST or also damaged and missing? 15:49 ebegin ccurry, ok. waiting for your mapping though :) 15:49 Sharon gmcharlt great - I will report this to our users group in like 5 minutes! 15:48 ccurry ebegin: I tried that as well with the same result. 15:48 gmcharlt Sharon: it looks like the status change is taking place 15:48 gmcharlt Sharon: justed tested in the development tip 15:48 ebegin ccurry, on my config, I didn't put the "userPassword". i simply have <password is=""></password> 15:47 Sharon gmcharlt yes, we want the status to change - is someone working on that? 15:47 ccurry Ah. Just a sec. 15:47 gmcharlt Sharon: I assume that you want the status to be changed? 15:46 gmcharlt Sharon: the patch doesn't do so explicitly, but may enable the status change 15:46 ebegin ccurry, I mean the whole mapping, on pastbin 15:46 ccurry ebegin: <password is="userPassword"></password> 15:45 Sharon Hi all. Does bug 3160 *change* an item status from LOST to found (blank)? 15:41 ebegin can you paste your mapping? 15:40 ccurry ;) 15:40 ebegin what is your password? ;) 15:39 ccurry ebegin: I tried blanking out the is attribute in password and still get "LDAP Auth rejected : invalid password for user 'ccurry'. LDAP error #16: LDAP_NO_SUCH_ATTRIBUTE" & "The request referenced an attribute that does not exist" 15:36 ccurry Ok. I'll try that. 15:36 ebegin ccurry, <password is=""></password> 15:34 ccurry I found the koha logs and it looks like my attribute for password doesn't exist in the LDAP database...I couldn't find it specifically referenced in Microsoft docs, so I tried "userPassword"; ugh...I hate Microsoft. I guess I'll see if I can track down the correct password attribute. 15:13 gmcharlt as by default they aren't in /var/log/apache2 15:13 gmcharlt check the config for the vhost you're using for koha 15:13 gmcharlt not necessarily 15:12 ccurry Nothing relevant in the Apache logs, *I think*. I'd find them all at /var/log/apache2, right? 15:08 ccurry Both options are set to 1...didn't think to check the Apache logs...oops. Sorry about all the newbie questions...and thanks for the assistance. I'll have a look. 15:06 gmcharlt ccurry: both the replicate and update optonis are set, I assume? anything interesting in the Apache error log? 14:26 gmcharlt joetho: it wouldn't be strictly required, but a list home page with (preferably) open archives would improve the listing 14:25 joetho Galen- I sent an email to the director in Indiana who evidently started that listserv, and I am hoping he will rise to the bait. 14:23 ccurry The documentation I used is here: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:ldap 14:10 ccurry ...order to update the borrowers database? 14:10 ccurry I have another question about Koha LDAP integration. The LDAP configuration in koha-conf.xml seems to have been accepted (no errors), but the koha borrowers database has not been updated. I've tried logging into Koha's public and admin interfaces using every way of referencing the domain I know of and not referencing it at all, with no luck. Is there a command that needs to be run in... 14:01 gmcharlt joetho: sure - where is the list's home page? 13:58 joetho good morning, -any thoughts on adding the American kohaconsort-l consortium listserv to the page at http://koha.org/about/get-involved/mailing-lists/mailing-listsg ??? 13:52 ebegin agree! Maybe this could be an option during the staging phase 13:51 gmcharlt but leaving it in the default loader for ongoing record imports can lead to unecessary unique key violation warnings 13:50 gmcharlt it's one thing to do this during initial migration 13:50 gmcharlt IMO letting the loader try to set the value of an autoincrement opaque identifier is asking for trouble 13:48 ebegin it worked great, but this is an additional step that could have been avoid if Koha was able to use 952$9 as the itemnumber. 13:47 ebegin gmcharlt, that what I used to do a mapping from the old item number to the new one. Then, when importing the circ data, I replaced the old one by the new one. 13:44 gmcharlt ebegin: do the items not have unique barcodes? 13:44 hdl_laptop That looks quite not really handy since itemnumber is AUTOINCREMENT => it would be incremented on update if you send some id (as far as i can tell) 13:43 ebegin This would be very helpfull for the migration of the circulation data (holds, loans, ...) 13:42 ebegin Yes, adding some item with predefined itemnumber, of course, only for the initial import from another system 13:41 hdl_laptop or add some items with predefined itemnumber ? 13:41 hdl_laptop update existing items ? 13:41 hdl_laptop keep the imtenumber can you tell more ? 13:40 ebegin Anybody know if there is a way to keep the item number during the import? It seems that the 952$9 is not working. 12:34 slef gmcharlt: I'm just perpetually freaked out at conferences anyway. I get name-checked in sessions when I don't expect it, stuff like that.