Time Nick Message 11:59 slef (there hasn't been one recently has there?) 11:59 slef OK if I send a meeting reminder? 11:55 slef "summary of proposals" is an example 11:55 slef gmcharlt: nothing yet, but sometimes links are missing like on that agenda 11:54 slef I updated the agenda wiki page for tonight. http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=meetingnotes09apr07 11:54 gmcharlt out of curiosity, what have you found that needs it? 11:54 slef I may make a CitationNeeded page one day 11:53 slef ok, thought it was just me being dense 11:52 gmcharlt don't think wiki.koha.org has equiv of {{citation_needed}} 11:52 slef aha 11:52 gmcharlt haspatch = priority is PATCH-Sent 11:51 slef gmcharlt: while you're here, two questions: what's wiki.koha.org's equivalent of wikipedia's {{citation_needed}}? and how do I tag a bug on bugs.koha.org as haspatch? 11:50 gmcharlt I'll see if I can get it to spit out the number of lines or bytes changed by each user 11:50 slef and non-Minor at that 11:50 slef only those who actually made edits I guess 11:49 gmcharlt there are two overlapping constituencies 11:48 gmcharlt all registered users or only those who actually made edits? 11:48 gmcharlt slef: yes 11:48 slef I assume you can get dokuwiki to spit out a list of users and emails but I can't see how to do it. 11:46 slef I think we could only clear the last three years (= dokuwiki registered users) because before that it was implicitly free-for-all 11:39 gmcharlt one model for doing this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update 11:37 paul_p gmcharlt: I think so 11:37 gmcharlt that is, to agree to the new license? 11:37 gmcharlt if we change it, would it be like relicensing software in that we'd have to get everybody who ever contributed to the wiki to change it? 11:35 paul_p hi gmcharlt. afaik, no discussion about the license 11:35 gmcharlt I haven't checked the archives yet, but was BY-NC-SA perhaps just a dokuwiki default setting? or was there an explicit discussion about the license? 11:33 gmcharlt slef: I'd support changing it to CC-BY-SA or CC-BY 11:02 slef slef: seems like 2006 with the move to dokuwiki 11:00 slef erm, when did wiki.koha.org become non-commercial? That's a PITA 10:54 slef http://www.songworm.com/db/songworm-parody/EternalFlame.html 10:40 Amit hi nahuel 10:32 nahuel bbl 10:32 nahuel anyway it's lunchtime 10:32 nahuel hehe well never wrote a line of prolog 10:32 chris very cool, it was one of my more fun classes at university 10:31 nahuel (from marseille !) 10:31 nahuel chris, hey ! A friend of mine is the child of one of the 2 creators of prolog 10:20 gmcharlt heh 10:19 chris you could really simplify the circulation matrix :) 10:18 chris i was actually thinking prolog 10:07 chris heh 10:06 chris yep :) 10:06 gmcharlt you planning to sleep between now and the meeting, I hope? 10:05 gmcharlt yep 10:05 chris awake early gmcharlt 10:01 gmcharlt greetings 09:25 mason interesting read... -> http://nymag.com/news/business/55687/ 09:02 slef oh. I was 12 hours and got daylight savings time wrong. 08:57 chris 10 hours until the meeting :) 08:55 chris heya slef 08:50 slef hi all. I'm alive. 08:30 chris hi hdl_laptop1 08:25 hdl_laptop1 hi chris 08:19 chris hi paul 08:15 chris drive by 06:48 Hopposai hello 06:48 Hopposai kia ora 05:04 richard cya 04:54 brendan richard that would be excellent 04:54 richard we could do with a weather swap - it's cold and wet here 04:52 brendan The mountains are on fire where I live -- here's a local newspaper --- http://www.dailynexus.com/article.php?a=18913 04:41 Amit Weather warning as thunder, hail hit Wellington 04:41 mason heya amit 04:41 richard hi amit 04:41 Amit hi mason richard 04:38 mason oooh, http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2387800/Weather-warning-as-thunder-hail-hit-Wellington 04:37 richard i'm sure wainuiomata copped a direct hit 04:37 mason 3am-ish i think.. 04:36 mason i initiallly thought it was an explosion ?!? 04:36 mason ive *never* heard thunder that felt so close by 04:36 richard sure was 04:35 mason crazy thunder last nite huh 04:35 richard evening mason 04:35 mason morning all 03:20 Amit how r u brendan 03:18 brendan heya amit 03:14 Amit good morning #koha 03:14 Amit hi brendan, mason, chris 03:05 brendan got friends who have been evacuated from there houses over for a few days... at least they brought there dog (fun for me ) 01:57 chris yikes 01:24 brendan the fire is reportedly getting bigger than 150 acres (that was reported an hour ago) 23:47 mason any excuse for a lame pun.. :/ 23:46 chris heh 23:45 mason hi chris.c x 2 23:34 chris currently working on upgrading HLT to 3.0.1 23:33 ccatalfo cool 23:32 chris doing some koha work again, for catalyst ... bout halftime at the moment and the rest of my time is other development work for catalyst mostly on www.stuff.co.nz 23:31 ccatalfo chris: good, thanks. what are you up to these days? 23:30 rach howdy 23:30 chris hows librarything treating ya? 23:30 ccatalfo evening, #koha! 23:30 chris hi rach and ccatalfo 22:01 ron gotta catch a train. ciao 21:59 ron lots of birds (lorikeets, etc) 21:58 ron bleh 21:58 ron bricks on legs 21:58 chris they are my favourite australian animal 21:58 ron heh. nope 21:58 chris any wombats? 21:58 chris i bet 21:57 ron we got a huge amount of wildlife relocate to here soon afterwards 21:56 ron I live ~20ks (~12-15mi) from the fires that swept through Vic in .au 21:54 brendan heh 21:53 ron ;-) 21:53 ron "burning near power lines". brendan goes offline in 5... 4... 3... 21:51 ron cool 21:50 brendan ok -- heading back out to watch it for a minute --- they've got helicopters dumping water on it... 21:50 ron hopefully you don't get anything like we had here in .au a few months back 21:49 chris here's hoping they get it under control 21:48 brendan well if I'm not here for a few days... I've left town :( 21:47 chris thats a little close for comfort 21:46 brendan I can watch it out my kitchen window though. 21:46 brendan I'm about 10 miles 21:45 chris how far from your home is it? 21:45 chris yikes 21:43 brendan started at 1:30pm -- it's now 2:40pm that is spreading fast 21:43 brendan http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=10308295 21:40 brendan no rain in sight... maybe a marine layer tonight 21:39 chris that wont help at all, no chance of rain? 21:39 brendan it's really windy here today 21:39 chris yikes 21:39 brendan when I left to run it was a small little fire, now two hours later - it looks like an acre or more 21:38 chris seems to be a yearly thing nowadays 21:09 schuster Time for me to head out... Progress!!! Now where are my keys... 21:09 chris night hdl_laptop 21:09 chris cool 21:07 hdl_laptop see ya 21:07 hdl_laptop time to go to bed for me. 21:07 hdl_laptop hi saorge 21:07 hdl_laptop But it should be there soon. 21:07 hdl_laptop It is only wip since there are some updatedatabase which fixes bugs and they are not yet added. 21:06 hdl_laptop if anyone interested. 21:06 hdl_laptop + some sent patches from nahuel 21:06 hdl_laptop Only with cherrypicked elements 21:05 hdl_laptop I have a 3.0.x wip to show. 21:05 hdl_laptop have a nice evening under the thunder. 20:47 richard amazing 20:46 chris kahu managed to sleep through the whole thing, which was fairly impressive 20:40 chris loud thunder too 20:38 chris yep 20:38 richard sure is. spectacular lightning this a.m. 20:38 chris hey richard .. wet enough for ya? 20:31 richard morning 20:24 chris that sounds entirely plausible schuster 19:03 schuster I have my timeout set to the default... - but about 1:30 we have a slowdown - when a bunch of people probably start circulating again after lunch 19:02 schuster So is that someone left a workstation say for lunch came back and the system is re-connecting to the session? 19:02 schuster At the same time I start getting these statements - SELECT a_session FROM sessions WHERE id='00bcd3c19290e05fdb5ecf81caed5da8' | 18:46 schuster Had our rain on Saturday! Rained out the Rough Riders... Thanks for the hint... Now I have something else to look into. 18:45 chris one hell of a thunderstorm going on here, so i may disappear at any time 18:44 chris looks like someone logging in or out is my guess 18:39 schuster REPLACE INTO sessions statements... what is that? 18:39 schuster all of a sudden here about 1:30 - I see a BUNCH of | 4413243 | pisdadmin | localhost | koha_pisd | Query | 0 | closing tables | REPLACE INTO sessions (id, a_session) VALUES('0fc609e3ca18358e97f299d880e827b7', '--- \n_SESSION_ATI | 18:39 schuster I've been running this throughout the day and things have been clicking right along. 18:39 schuster Question about show processlist in mysql 17:22 brendan morning #koha 16:36 wizzyrea mornin 16:05 pianohacker Mornin', liz 15:36 jwagner Worth investigating that option. Thanks. 15:35 atz certificates would a good fix for that 15:35 jwagner Actually, the particular need I'm looking at is the web-based self-check. We have one site that wants it available from multiple PCs without the need for a manual login. I'm experimenting with some sysprefs to store the self-check ID & password, then pull those values & do a login for the web self-check. 15:33 atz that's the kind of thing the defense contractor types in your area get into, also 15:32 jwagner Sorry, atz, been off in a meeting. We'll look at that. Thanks! 15:15 atz jwagner: you might look at certificate authentication at the Apache level, would need to add hooks in C4::Auth to pull values from that 15:10 atz might even be able to short cirtuit that and not touch DB 15:09 atz basically set userflags.defaulton=1 for the permissions you want to be applied, then do the load for those users, then set userflags back the way it was 15:07 atz bignose-work: i thought of a quick hack-around for loading users w/ staff (or any other) access 13:36 IrmaCalyx Galen... Hope U feel better soon. Paul...thanks for the chat and info. Bonsoir. 13:35 jwagner Good morning all. Has anyone done any work with allowing an automated login? That is, feeding an ID and password to the OPAC under the hood? I'm looking into ways to do this. 13:27 IrmaCalyx That's a relief! 13:27 gmcharlt I'm not oinking yet ;) 13:27 IrmaCalyx Galen...a common flu only ...I hope! 13:26 IrmaCalyx Ok thank you both for the info. 13:26 gmcharlt IrmaCalyx: reasonably OK, but ill today 13:26 paul_p slef told us he has something about that 13:25 paul_p IrmaCalyx: nope, it won't support EDI yet. 13:25 IrmaCalyx Hi Galen - How are you doing? 13:25 gmcharlt IrmaCalyx: not to answer for paul_p, but have you read through all of the acq RFCs on http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:rfcs3.2 13:24 IrmaCalyx Will it support Electronic ordering and invoicing? 13:23 IrmaCalyx Might be easier if I ask for a link to some info re the recently designed Acquisition Module and it's features 13:20 IrmaCalyx May I ask about acquisition? 13:20 IrmaCalyx Great...Will do some searching on prior postings or emails and check it out! 13:18 gmcharlt at least one is doing it, more or less, with the branch transfer limits that Kyle hall added 13:17 IrmaCalyx A library of significance in Sydney is requesting it. Any US library using Koha has added this feature? 13:15 gmcharlt fair number of US public libraries do floating collections, or want to 13:15 paul_p makes sense though. I think "real networks" could be interested by that. But I think it's quite a library 3.0 feature ;-) 13:14 IrmaCalyx One year already since our trip to your continent! Nice hospitality is easy to remember :-) 13:12 IrmaCalyx It's a new Collections Management idea here too but it is becoming popular as only transfer expenses are incurred for items requested by library patrons. 13:12 paul_p the library is just near the Ingres museum 13:12 paul_p yep. 13:11 IrmaCalyx Just looked up some painting from Jean Ingres born in Montauban (1755-1814)... 13:11 paul_p IrmaCalyx: I never encountered this in france. 13:10 paul_p IrmaCalyx: yep, it's the public library. 13:07 IrmaCalyx Montauban...dans le departement de Tarn et Garonne - A public library? 13:04 IrmaCalyx What is it called in French? 13:04 IrmaCalyx It's a way of saving transfer costs. 13:03 IrmaCalyx until borrowed again or requested from another branch. 13:02 IrmaCalyx It's when an item does not belong to a particular branch in a multiple branch library syste. The item is borrowed from on e library and when returned to another one stays at that branch. 13:01 paul_p what is floating collections ? 13:01 paul_p IrmaCalyx: the kohaCon is quite old already. I was last week in Montauban. 12:55 IrmaCalyx I had a question today about "floating collections". Do your libraries require/use this feature? 12:54 IrmaCalyx Busy? 12:53 IrmaCalyx Hi Paul. How are you settling back in after the KohaCon week? 12:45 paul_p hello IrmaCalyx 12:40 IrmaCalyx hi #koha