Time Nick Message 12:00 Hui_Nan_ or 12:02 Hui_Nan_ well, ok 12:02 Hui_Nan_ user may belong to different branches 12:04 Hui_Nan_ i mean to many branches simultaneously 12:04 Hui_Nan_ it seems that branches still going to work for me 12:04 Hui_Nan_ thanks for clues! 12:46 Amit hi danny 12:49 danny hi amit and #koha 14:18 wizzyrea mornin folks 14:18 gmcharlt good morning wizzyrea 14:21 wizzyrea everybody had a lovely weekend I trust 15:57 wizzyrea I'm such a git nub. So if I want to run a koha install say off of our LL repository, do I have to install it? (ug, I feel like a moron for asking this question) 15:57 wizzyrea (that is to say, I already have it installed off of the download) 15:58 gmcharlt wizzyrea: installed Koha already from the download? 15:58 gmcharlt you could switch that over to a dev-mode installation that runs off of a git clone 15:58 gmcharlt but it would be easier for you to do it from scratch 16:01 wizzyrea that's kind of what I thought. Is fine, didn't have anything in the download install 16:02 wizzyrea so, when you sync with Git, do you have to reinstall? 16:02 gmcharlt generally, no 16:02 gmcharlt for the most part, after you fetch and rebase 16:02 gmcharlt if there are any upgrade steps 16:02 gmcharlt they'll be handled via updatedatabase.pl 16:02 gmcharlt or in some cases batch jobs that a specific commit tells you to run 16:03 gmcharlt *assuming you have a installed from a git clone, of course 16:03 wizzyrea ok, lemme play around and see how it shakese out 16:03 wizzyrea shakes* 16:03 wizzyrea (is the only way I'll learn it. Heh.) 16:06 atz is it ok for USMARC to have no 100 field? 16:06 gmcharlt yes 16:07 gmcharlt most records will have exactly one of 100, 110, 111, or 130 16:07 gmcharlt it's an error for a MARC21 record to have more than one 1xx 16:07 atz ok, thx 18:27 jdavidb atz: You around? I've got a C4::Context puzzler for you.. 18:27 atz ? 18:28 jdavidb I'm doing $context = new C4::Context("<file>"), but the context that results is not the one I pointed at... 18:29 jdavidb There was a "standard" install on this box, and it is looking there, instead of the dev install I did. 18:29 atz did you unset KOHA_CONF? 18:29 atz (in your execution environment) 18:29 jdavidb Set, unset, doesn't seem to matter. Set it to the one I wanted, even. 18:30 jdavidb If I do it ( ) with KOHA_CONF set to the one I want, it *still* points at that standard install. 18:31 davi make test fails with Tried to use 'C4::Branch'. 18:31 davi How to solve it_ 18:31 davi ? 18:31 atz davi: several tests are broken right now, because of DB dependencies at module/class level 18:31 jdavidb Not a huge panic attack, atz, as that "standard" install is going away tonight, but it is mind-boggling. 18:32 davi atz, So, can I ignore it? or should I install from the Git repository? 18:32 atz jdavidb: it has to get the "standard" KOHA_CONF from somewhere... apache SetEnv, env var. whatever 18:33 atz davi: probably can ignore 18:33 jdavidb Yeah, atz, that's what's mind-boggling about it. For <file>, I'm giving the absolute path to the koha-conf.xml, correct? 18:34 davi atz, ok, thanks 18:37 atz jdavidb: looks like you are trying to do dev stuff on a standard install 18:37 atz __KOHA_CONF_DIR__ would have been replaced by your path, i.e. hardcoded 18:37 atz still doesn't quite explain it 18:37 jdavidb No, I'm trying to do dev stuff on a dev install, but the damned stubborn thing insists on looking to the standard install. 18:38 atz just start putting debug statements in Context until you can figure out where it's getting that from 18:38 jdavidb Kk. I may just work on something else until after that standard install no longer exists. 18:55 wizzyrea can anyone tell me why there is an additional email (home) field on the add child screen? 18:55 wizzyrea is there a reason? 19:10 wizzyrea Just curious, we were wondering if it was the child's email address, or the parent's email address, or if it was even used? or a wraith of template designs past... or... or... or... 19:11 owen wizzyrea: That's a bug that was fixed recently 19:11 gmcharlt wizzyrea: 3010, specifically 19:11 owen Hopefully it will be in your next round of updates 19:11 gmcharlt owen's fix is http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commitdiff;h=c2fdde125bfddd45c8c1f6104678cc1fcaf4173f 19:11 gmcharlt template only, nota bene 19:13 wizzyrea right... what was the B email for? 19:13 wizzyrea or do we not know 19:13 gmcharlt business email, I believe 19:13 wizzyrea lol, ok :) 19:14 wizzyrea ok so... nub question if I want to try that patch out on my lil test system here, how would I go about it? 19:14 wizzyrea I am installed from the LL repository (I think) 19:15 wizzyrea er, nekls-LL repository, that is 19:15 gmcharlt git remote add koha-public git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git # create a remote linking to the public repo 19:15 gmcharlt git fetch koha-public # and grab the most recent stuff 19:16 gmcharlt git checkout -b test-bug-3010 # create a little branch to test in 19:16 wizzyrea too awesome thanks 19:16 gmcharlt git cherry-pick c2fdde125bfddd45c8c1f6104678cc1fcaf4173f # grab Owen's commit and don't let it go 19:17 owen FWIW, B_email is the email associated with "Alternate address." "Email (work)" is emailpro 19:17 gmcharlt (and where did I get that commit ID? it's in the gitweb URL I gave you, and on the gitweb page under the label commit) 19:20 gmcharlt wizzyrea: I'm just plotting to get you to join the list of Koha committers :) 19:21 wizzyrea I am so working on it 19:22 wizzyrea so SO working on it 19:22 gmcharlt wizzyrea++ 19:24 wizzyrea showoff ;) 19:39 pianohacker _heavenly_ cloud? I've been out to dinner with some of them, I think you have the wrong project :) 19:44 wizzyrea lulz @ pianohacker 19:45 wizzyrea hey man, I was only the recipient of the rubber food 19:45 wizzyrea the tossee, not the tosser 19:46 pianohacker We are all culpable, by allowing this dastardly act to occur 19:46 wizzyrea lol the debasement of the rubber cheesecake! 19:46 pianohacker hehehe 19:46 gmcharlt what I want to know is why isn't that incident on youtube? 19:47 wizzyrea well, joetho is quite unpredictable 19:47 wizzyrea ;) 19:47 wizzyrea forgot that it's better to have cams going at all times when he's around 19:47 jdavidb_ For evidence reasons, if naught else. 19:47 wizzyrea and brilliant, gmcharlt, (and owen) it worked and I'm on my way to git fu 19:48 wizzyrea lol 19:48 wizzyrea trut 19:48 wizzyrea truth 19:49 wizzyrea git fu. I make myself laugh 19:54 owen git: 'fu' is not a git-command. See 'git --help'. 19:56 schuster I'm looking at my zebraqueue where done <> 1 and seeing lots of specialUpdate | authorityserver | that have not processed. Any ideas? 19:57 gmcharlt schuster: check crontab, make sure -a option is passed to rebuild_zebra.pl 20:00 schuster */10 * * * * if [ ! -f $HOME/donotindex ] ; then touch $HOME/donotindex; $PERL5LIB/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -x >> $HOME/koha-pro/var/log/update_zebra.log 2>&1; rm -f $HOME/donotindex; fi 20:00 schuster So from this there is no -a so that needs to be added? 20:00 gmcharlt correct 20:02 schuster hmmm wish I had Joe's notes on crontab from the conference...;( 20:03 gmcharlt schuster: want me to do it for you? 20:04 schuster I would appreciate it as I don't know how to edit crontabs yet. 20:06 gmcharlt schuster: done 20:10 schuster Thanks again. 20:11 chris ata marie 20:11 gmcharlt hi chris 20:11 pianohacker Morning, chris 20:11 hdl_laptop hi all 20:21 chris awesome .. AllowNotForLoanOverride rules 20:22 jwagner gmcharlt, do you know current status of opac-search.pl and opac-advsearch.tmpl? I've lost track of the various messages about current patches -- don't know if there are any changes that have reached you but not gone on through yet. I'm working on some fixes to that page. 20:22 chris here's a random question, has anyone ever tried to use zebra to index a mail archive? 20:23 gmcharlt jwagner: go for it - nothing re opac-advsearch.tmpl is pending, and none of the pending opac-search.pl patches are likely to present any merge conflicts unless you're intending to rewrite it 20:23 gmcharlt chris: no, but doesn't sound hard 20:23 brendan chris -- it's called a photographic memory ;) 20:25 chris gmcharlt: yeah I might have a crack, being able to search the koha mailing list from inside koha would be kinda cool 20:25 gmcharlt as an adjunct to the help system? 20:25 brendan so for koha-hackfest Connecticut tomorrow -- not to many people are able to make it, but I've got two people, who haven't committed to koha yet, so we'll try to add a few more tomorrow. 20:25 chris well i was actually even going as far as something useful :-) 20:26 chris s/was/wasn't/ 20:26 chris :) but yeah that would be cool 20:26 gmcharlt lol 20:26 chris brendan: awesome 20:27 chris gmcharlt: i was just thinking more for my own use, being able to search the patches, devel and main list from my test koha would be kinda nifty 20:27 gmcharlt chris: I'm just laughing because any sufficient developed ILS ends up being used as a bugs database or something like that 20:28 gmcharlt so your idea is just a natural extension of that thteme 20:28 chris :) 20:28 chris i could just do it with kete i guess 20:28 chris might actually be a better idea 20:28 chris :) 20:29 gmcharlt for a long time, Ex Libris' customer support request database was a lightly modified ALEPH system 20:29 chris heh cool 20:29 gmcharlt they switched to a real CRM years ago, of course, but nonetheless 20:30 gmcharlt metadata is metadata, I suppose 20:30 chris i really should get a proof of concept going with kete and koha playing together 20:31 chris that was part of the reason for choosing zebra for the kete indexer 20:31 gmcharlt you have but a few days to do it before that group in India publishes their Koha/Greenstone docs ;) 20:31 chris yeah :) 20:34 chris maybe we should just wait a couple of months, india will finish everything for us :-) 20:35 hdl_laptop chris : Eric Leas Morgan did index mails with zebra 20:35 gmcharlt a few more patches from them might be nice, first :) 20:35 chris gmcharlt: yep working on it ... ill keep encouraging them :) 20:35 chris hdl_laptop: ohhh cool 20:36 chris speaking of india, i need to test out these dvd's and let krishnan know 20:37 hdl_laptop seems he used text filter that is provided with source 20:37 chris hdl_laptop: makes sense 20:55 chris heh 20:56 gmcharlt brendan: good way to keep the number of attendees down to a reasonable level? 20:56 chris least you are in the same country as where you are planning your wedding ;) 20:56 gmcharlt "you must be *this* smart to attend the wedding" ;) 20:56 brendan heh -- it's still half way across the country - so it feels like a different country! 20:57 brendan I agree gmcharlt ! 20:57 chris http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2556&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 20:57 chris http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2559&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 20:57 chris yay for the gimp! :) 20:58 gmcharlt :) 21:00 chris one of my favourite parts about getting married in PA, was getting the license and having to sign saying we weren't cousins 21:00 chris small things amuse small minds :-) 21:01 brendan Sonja - needs to get blood testes done to get married in Montana. equally funny. 21:02 wizzyrea blood testes... sounds vicious 21:02 chris heh 21:02 chris and painful 21:02 brendan whoops -- that was a bad typo 21:02 wizzyrea yes, that too 21:03 brendan I'm going to have to copy that one and send it to Sonja !!! 21:03 chris heh 21:04 chris we have a whole page on the wiki at work devoted to either typo's or wrong windows :) 21:04 brendan well - I guess that one definitely should make the list 21:05 chris you could send it bash.org 21:06 chris http://bash.org/?5273 <-- still my fave 21:06 gmcharlt lol 21:06 gmcharlt a sufficiently detailed analysis of ping times might find it for him ;) 21:07 chris heh 21:13 schuster by all great day.. 21:13 chris cya schuster 21:14 chris heh 21:17 gmcharlt at least it matches :) 21:35 elwell speaking of bash.org - I also like http://bash.org/?192619 21:36 chris heh 21:47 chris ohh no wonder its quiet in #kohanews 21:48 chris no bot 21:53 gmcharlt chris: fixed - thanks for pointing it out 21:54 chris np 21:56 jwagner Speaking of bots, gmcharlt, you said at the developer weekend that there were searchable archives of the listservs. I haven't been able to track them down -- I just keep going back to the place where I subscribed. Do you have links handy? 21:59 chris http://markmail.org/search/koha+list:org.koha.lists.koha-devel 22:00 chris http://markmail.org/search/koha+list:org.koha.lists.koha-patches 22:00 chris etc :) 22:00 chris is one 22:00 chris i like markmail a lot 22:00 gmcharlt see tail end of http://www.koha.org/community/mailing-lists.html 22:00 chris or there is gmane 22:00 gmcharlt where many of the same links that chris just sent can be found 22:01 chris *nod* 22:01 chris http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.koha.devel 22:02 jwagner Thanks much to both of you! 22:21 chris koha-devel is busy today, great to see 22:27 brendan I feel like it has been busy since KohaCon... 22:29 chris yes, it has, its a shame Micheal Hafen wasn't there, he is working hard 22:30 brendan *nods* 22:50 brendan see you all later -- 22:51 chris cya 03:16 Amit hi mason, chris good morning #koha 03:56 brendan hey Amit chris, mason 03:56 brendan and anyone else who is on the channel now 03:56 Amit heya brendan 03:56 Amit good morning 03:57 brendan good evening! 03:57 Amit morning here in india 03:57 brendan I'm on my way across the USA... 03:57 brendan flying to the east coast 03:57 brendan what are you up to? 03:57 brendan amit 03:58 Amit doing some work on opennms 03:58 brendan sweet 04:01 brendan amit -- good day for my favorite american baseball team 04:02 brendan they hit a gram slam in the first inning! 04:02 Amit hmm good 04:02 brendan that's the best you can do as hitter in baseball 04:02 Amit have u interested in cricket match 04:02 Amit IPL- is going on south africa 04:02 brendan I am always interested in learning about cricket 04:02 brendan I went to a baseball game with chris 04:03 Amit but i m very much crazy about cricket 04:03 brendan he already knew a lot about the game 04:03 Amit hmm 04:03 brendan I understand your love of cricket -- you should experience baseball 04:03 brendan I think you would like it just as much 04:04 brendan weird rules for baseball 04:04 Amit no 04:04 Amit i have no exp with baseball 04:06 brendan the best thing about baseball --- is the team work -- similar to cricket! 04:11 Amit ok 04:11 Amit with how much player 04:14 brendan 9 per side 04:14 Amit ok 04:14 Amit in cricket 11 per side 04:14 brendan yes 04:14 brendan the bats are much different 04:14 brendan cricket is big and flat 04:15 brendan baseball is small and round 04:15 brendan but cricket you can bounce the ball -- baseball you can not! 04:17 brendan amit - do you play cricket ? 04:17 brendan for fun 04:17 Amit yes 04:18 Amit only school level 04:18 brendan do you still play? 04:20 Amit no 04:20 Amit i m only 26 year old 04:20 brendan if you get a chance you should play again 04:21 brendan I'm 30 and I still play baseball 04:21 Amit yes 04:21 Amit sure 04:21 brendan all-though -- I am very sore the next day 04:21 Amit right now i m in bangalore, basically i m from dehradun and my birthplace New Delhi 04:22 Amit so not much frnd in bangalore 04:22 brendan oh well 04:22 Amit but if i m in delhi/dehradun there are lot of frnd 04:22 Amit enjoying playing cricket 04:22 brendan yes 04:22 Amit so one thing home sickness and other is work pressure 04:23 brendan heh 04:23 Amit bangalore is 2400 km from delhi 04:23 brendan at least you can follow the national team 04:23 Amit yes 04:23 Amit because india is big country 04:24 brendan yes india is large 04:24 Amit i m going to my on 5th june to 15 june 04:24 brendan sweet 04:24 Amit sory i m going to my home from 5th june to 15 june 04:24 brendan which train ? 04:24 brendan or are you flying? 04:24 Amit from bangalore to delhi by flight 04:24 Amit then from delhi to dehradun by train 04:25 brendan not to bad 04:25 Amit distance between delhi to dehradun around 250 km 04:25 brendan ok amit -- I'm signing off -- 04:25 Amit ok bye 04:25 Amit take care 04:25 brendan talk to you tomorrow -- if I'm awake 04:25 Amit bye good night 04:25 brendan good luck with your work 09:08 chris hmm, bad connection for paul tonight 09:08 nicomo hi chris 09:09 nicomo yes : he's at a client's for a meeting 09:09 nicomo so i guess he tries to use the library's wifi, with mixed success 09:15 chris ahh 09:15 chris hopefully the meeting is going well 09:16 nicomo better than the wifi, hopefully :-) 09:16 chris hehe 09:25 mason bonjour kohaphiles