Time  Nick        Message
12:02 Amit        hi hafid
12:12 hafid       yes but i have error with telenet connection
12:12 hafid       institution
12:14 hafid       Telnet Login Timed out at ./SIPServer.pm line 234, <STDIN> chunk 2.
12:16 hafid       hi amit
12:17 hafid       in log i have Sip::Configuration::Service=HASH(0x9582a24):
12:17 hafid       Loading ILS implementation 'ILS' for institution '002' failed
12:17 hafid       002 is ID of institution
12:18 hafid       can i have help
14:15 liz_nekls_  mornin folks
14:19 gmcharlt    hi wizzyrea
14:25 brendan     good morning
16:55 gmcharlt    anybody from france around?
17:26 schuster    Question to the group about bugs.koha.org - in looking at this "enhancement" can someone tell me the status?
17:26 schuster    http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2368
17:27 schuster    version says HEAD so does that mean it is "fixed" committed?
17:30 gmcharlt    no
17:30 gmcharlt    HEAD is the target version
17:30 gmcharlt    status of bug is NEW
17:30 gmcharlt    so essentailly means that it's been proposed but nobody's acted on it yet
17:31 schuster    OK thanks - trying to understand what is there to get a group going to "review" with a plan...
17:31 schuster    So that we can get the other Development items that are "sponsored" entered etc...
17:51 davi        The tester is getting XML::LibXML::SAX=HASH(0xa68030) as parser.
17:52 davi        How fix it?
17:53 gmcharlt    one way, make sure that XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser is last entry in the applicable ParserDetails.ini
17:54 davi        Should I comment the last one, or just move the needed by Koha to the last one?
17:54 gmcharlt    move it to last
17:54 davi        thanks
17:55 davi        Are the other used by some application? That is to say, why leave it? why just not delete the other two entries?
17:56 gmcharlt    other Perl apps potential could use other parsers, and need the config info
17:57 davi        Why is not Koha clever enough to pick the needed, and require it to be moved to the last?
17:58 davi          Other applications does not need moving the entry to the last position.
17:58 davi        I am just curios
18:03 gmcharlt
18:03 gmcharlt    desire not to hardcode XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser, I suppose
18:03 gmcharlt    thought we may as well
18:05 luisb       I'm pretty new to the Koha community, but perhaps there may be some configuration file, or table in the database where the installation could specify which parser to choose.
18:05 luisb       This way it can be set to XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser, and not be hard-coded.
18:05 luisb       Just thinking out loud here-
18:06 gmcharlt    of course
18:25 davi        I am installing from Git repo, as dev.
18:25 davi        I get a make test error
18:26 davi        Debian etch
18:26 davi        #     Tried to use 'C4::Stats'.
18:26 davi        #     Error:  Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /root/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR /root/kohaclone/blib/arch /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /root/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 85.
18:26 atz         davi: install zebra and ZOOM
18:26 davi        thanks atz
18:27 luisb       make sure it gets installed in one of the directories Koha looks for it
18:27 atz         you might have installed it (for example, from a binary)
18:27 atz         that is actually in some other directory (not @INC)
18:27 davi        I am following the steps exposed in INSTALL.debian
18:28 davi        idzebra-2.0, etc., is already installed from apt repositories
18:28 davi        I am going to install ZOOM
18:29 davi        from CPAN
18:29 davi          perl -MCPAN -e 'install Net::Z3950::ZOOM'
18:30 atz         davi: probably should use    apt-get install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl
18:30 gmcharlt    atz: actually, unless that package has been updated recently, you probably want it from CPAN
18:30 atz         hmm... looks like no etch version anyway
18:30 atz         http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libnet-z3950-zoom-perl
18:31 luisb       aye, I found that I was more successful installing libraries from CPAN than using apt...
18:31 gmcharlt    ZOOM is a special case because it needs to be comipled against yaz
18:31 luisb       I started having some libraries not quite installed in the right places.
18:32 atz         gmcharlt: updated Wed, 18 Jun 2008
18:33 gmcharlt    a year old
18:33 atz         yeah
18:34 davi        perl -MCPAN -e 'install Net::Z3950::ZOOM'
18:34 davi          ERROR: Unable to call script: yaz-config
18:34 luisb       sudo?
18:34 davi        no, root directly
18:34 davi        Note the yaz package is installed.
18:35 davi
18:35 luisb       from apt or cpan?
18:35 davi        perl -MCPAN -e 'install Net::Z3950::ZOOM'
18:36 luisb       i mean was yaz installed from apt or cpan?
18:36 davi        apt
18:36 davi          yaz 3.0.45-1indexdata
18:37 luisb       Joe/Galen? I would probably install yaz from CPAN; what do you guys think?
18:37 luisb       Again it may be that it's installed where CPAN isn't looking...
18:37 davi        interesting
18:38 gmcharlt    luisb: not from CPAN, from IndexData's apt reposistory
18:38 davi        I think I am going to try an 'standard' install instead of an 'dev' one
18:38 gmcharlt    same as for idzebra-2.0  and idzebra-2.0-doc
18:38 gmcharlt    davi: installation mode doesn't make a difference re getting module dependencies installed
18:39 davi        So, I think I am going to install in 'lenny' instead of in 'etch'
18:39 davi          I am just looking for a solution to follow working on this
18:40 davi        The problem with lenny is having to do a downgrade of the Perl packages and libssl
18:40 luisb       downgrade from 5.10?
18:41 davi        to 5.8
18:41 luisb       I've actually successfully installed on ubuntu 8.10 with perl5.10
18:42 luisb       the machine i installed it on was a bit of a mess--it had both perl versions installed
18:42 davi        It is said or documented that it is needed for MARC::File::XML to work properly
18:42 davi        luisb, \You have installed, but does it work in all cases?
18:42 gmcharlt    davi: that's no longer the case - M:F:X works with 5.10
18:42 davi        thanks gmcharlt, Good to know!
18:43 davi        So, with lenny there is only the libssl issue?
18:43 davi          Install libssl0.9.7 instead of 0.9.8 ( Needed For Yaz ).
18:45 luisb       I'm going to head to lunch; good luck davi!
18:45 davi        thanks luisb
18:45 davi          Reference from: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy
18:46 davi            Install libssl0.9.7 ( Needed For Yaz ). Hardy has libssl0.9.8, but yaz won't install with that one. We need to download the older version and install it by hand. (2.1mb).
18:46 davi
18:47 davi        Note, even an Debian etch upgrade will update libssl0.9.7 to the 0.9.8 version.  Will be that a problem?
18:47 gmcharlt    davi:  libssl0.9.8 works fine for us on etch
18:49 atz         and isn't that 7 => 8 the upgrade that fixed the predictable random number gen. issue?
18:49 atz         it might be a bitch since it rejects all the previously cut keys as insecure by default
18:49 atz         but that should be done anyway, regardless of koha
18:50 gmcharlt    atz: I think you're right
18:50 davi        yes, I think that 0.9.7 to 0.9.8 etch upgrade if for such Debian bug
18:52 davi        So if both libssl0.9.8 and perl 5.10 are reported to work rightly I think I am going to try Debian lenny instead of etch. I hope to solve so the previous problem installing ZOOM
18:53 gmcharlt    chris: new committer
18:56 chris       wow one a day
19:02 chris       ahh david's patch, cool :)
19:02 chris       we were working on that on the monday
19:15 chris       right new patch for the history.txt sent and survey filled in
19:24 hdl_laptop  gmcharlt: i am here if you need
19:25 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop: sure - a couple sysprefs to translate
19:26 hdl_laptop  ok.
19:26 gmcharlt    LibraryThingForLibrariesID - See:http://librarything.com/forlibraries/
19:27 gmcharlt    LibraryThingForLibrariesEnabled - Enable or Disable Library Thing for Libraries Features
19:27 gmcharlt    LibraryThingForLibrariesTabbedView - Put LibraryThingForLibraries Content in Tabs.
19:27 gmcharlt    are the three
19:29 hdl_laptop  LibraryThingForLibrariesID - cf.:http://www.librarything.fr/forlibraries
19:30 hdl_laptop  LibraryThingForLibrariesEnabled - Active/Desactive les fonctionnalités Librarything For Libraries
19:30 hdl_laptop  LibraryThingForLibrariesTabbedView - Mets les contenus LibraryThingForLibraries dans des onglets.
19:30 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop: better pastebin - I'm not seeing the accents
19:30 hdl_laptop  LibraryThingForLibrariesTabbedView - dispose les contenus LibraryThingForLibraries dans des onglets.
19:31 hdl_laptop  http://pastebin.com/d6b916c66
19:32 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop++
19:49 hdl_laptop  gnite
20:07 pianohacker Hey, liz
20:08 chris       must be friday evening for you guys by now eh?
20:09 pianohacker ~2:00 ish here in Mountain time
20:09 chris       ahh not quite then
20:10 liz_nekls_  yea, not quite
20:11 chris       anzac day here today
20:12 chris       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZAC_Day
20:12 chris       kahu and I are watching the ceremonies on tv
20:14 chris       wow gmcharlt is busy today
20:14 pianohacker Yeah
20:14 pianohacker It's been weird, booting up Gmail to have roughly ten emails from the patches list
20:14 chris       yep
21:51 chris       pianohacker: you about?
21:51 pianohacker Yup
21:51 chris       you were going to do some stuff with template::toolkit?
21:52 pianohacker Yes. I was going to do parts of the systempreference editor using it, but I realized it wouldn't work
21:52 chris       ahh stink
21:52 chris       why not?
21:53 pianohacker Because I have to do postprocessing anyway to get the nice table rows and search
21:54 pianohacker I would like to do other parts of Koha using TT, though (especially wherever includes aren't needed, like RSS)
21:54 chris       yep
21:54 chris       http://search.cpan.org/~perrin/Template-Plugin-Cache-0.13/Cache.pm
21:55 chris       i have a memcached version of this
21:55 chris       that i did for work, ill put it in my caching branch
21:55 pianohacker Oh, awesome
21:57 pianohacker Hmm. Trying to find your git url, there seem to be a lot of real estate agents named chris cormack
22:05 chris       hehe
22:05 chris       http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/cache
22:05 chris       ill add it there
22:06 pianohacker workbuffer, right
22:06 pianohacker Thanks
22:06 chris       probably tonight nz time
22:13 pianohacker Hmm. What's the story behind the new Koha namespace?
22:19 chris       ahh that was just something i was playing with
22:19 chris       as a way to slowly shift things over
22:20 chris       so that i could convert modules/scripts to use the caching one at a time
22:21 chris       i push my branch to github too
22:22 chris       http://github.com/ranginui/koha/tree/cache
22:22 chris       if its faster for you from there
22:23 chris       http://github.com/ranginui/koha/blob/1667604b817ea36eac66151293aaa1afb8f45512/lib/Koha/DataObject.pm
22:23 chris       this is my baseclass for a dataobject
22:24 chris       i dunno if i like it or not :)
22:24 chris       but it does allow you to interact with the object and it figures out whether to get it from the cache or the db
22:25 chris       so this is my Borrower object
22:25 chris       http://github.com/ranginui/koha/blob/1667604b817ea36eac66151293aaa1afb8f45512/lib/Koha/DataObject/Borrower.pm
22:26 chris       then you can do stuff like this
22:26 chris       http://github.com/ranginui/koha/blob/1667604b817ea36eac66151293aaa1afb8f45512/rest/borrowers/single_borrower.pl
22:28 chris       it was just mucking around :)
22:30 chris       ok i gotta head out for a bit, bbl
22:30 pianohacker Gah, of course I remember my IRC window now
22:30 pianohacker Dataobject looks quite nice, really
22:46 brendan     see you later #koha
01:08 pianohacker 'night, all
03:56 chris       if you read the logs pianohacker, pushed my tt plugin