Time  Nick        Message
15:33 slef        I meant using the "forgot your password" link would work
15:33 gmcharlt    ok
15:37 liz_nekls   chris: re your question of ages and ages ago
15:37 slef        liz_nekls: he's on a plane. email may be safer
15:37 liz_nekls   Ah fair enough
15:38 liz_nekls   I knew that too >.>
15:38 liz_nekls   faceepalm
15:38 liz_nekls   so I checked, apparently the intranetuserjs doesn't work on templates not in the prog directory
15:38 liz_nekls   or custom templates
15:46 owen        Yeah, liz_nekls, there are probably many bugs relating to non-prog templates
15:48 owen        A quick search turns up 74 instances where the prog directory is referenced in the scripts and templates
15:49 owen        ...which is partly because we can't believe anyone would be enough of a masochist to create their own templates anymore ;)
15:55 slef        Is the kudos@ccfls list admin on here?
15:56 owen        slef I think that's Kyle Hall?
16:07 slef        owen: I don't know.  Is Kyle Hall on IRC?
16:07 gmcharlt    slef: very rarely
16:07 gmcharlt    and not now
16:18 Headiee     hey liz_nekls you using libki right?
16:28 slef        gmcharlt: oh. Can someone email him to let him know that the kudos list server is on at least four blacklists? I've got a problem because he's on blacklists and a co-op is currently arguing with me about whether compulsary server-wide blacklist-blocking is evil.
16:29 gmcharlt    slef: do you have the name of any of the blacklists in question handy?
16:29 slef        What's the largest number of patrons in a koha?
16:30 slef        gmcharlt: NOMOREFUNN SORBS(don't know which one yet), Spamhaus-PBL, WPBL
16:30 gmcharlt    thanks
16:31 slef        I'm still checking those out as part of the argument
16:31 slef        Spamhaus-PBL is a PITA which lists all IPs which aren't approved to run mailservers AIUI
16:33 slef        http://www.wpbl.info/removed/24.144.200.78___20090421_073901.html
16:35 liz_nekls   headiee: we are not using it quite yet
16:35 liz_nekls   hey man, I'm seeing the light
16:35 liz_nekls   re: owen
16:36 gmcharlt    slef: email sent to Kyle
16:36 liz_nekls   got my first jquery thing going yesterday, but of course I can't like, phase that kind of stuff in b/c I'm using custom templates /facepalm
16:36 slef        gmcharlt: thanks.  email sent to the co-op
16:38 liz_nekls   and yes, I may be a bit of a masochist >.>
16:40 slef        liz_nekls: doesn't inflicting javascript on people make you a sadist too?
16:41 Headiee     liz_nekls ok, i had it running fine at home on a test machine, now on a different machine it wont log me in, might be cause of the cake version remake
16:44 owen        slef, you'll be happy to know that thd held our feet to the fire on your behalf on the javascript issue at kohacon
16:46 slef        hehehe
16:48 gmcharlt    jdavidb is also interested on working on accessibility problems
16:48 gmcharlt    in context of compliance with US section 501 and Americans with Disabilities Act requirements
16:48 slef        Great
16:48 slef        who's jdavidb?
16:48 gmcharlt    David Bavousett
16:48 slef        got URL?
16:49 owen        http://www.section508.gov/
16:49 gmcharlt    pardon me, section 508
16:50 slef        no, I mean jdavidb
16:50 slef        I've seen s508 before. It's like WCAG-1 but worse IIRC
16:50 owen        :)
16:50 gmcharlt    he used to work for LL, now PTFS - don't know if he has a personal website
16:55 slef        oic
18:04 jwagner     Who maintains the koha.org site?
18:06 gmcharlt    hosted by LL; chris, rach, and a couple others can post content to it
18:06 gmcharlt    working on migrating to plone
18:07 slef        I can edit it AIUI.
18:07 jwagner     There's a minor conflict which has been puzzling one of my users on the Koha release number.  The header paragraph on the site says "Koha 3.0.1 Released -- The Koha development team are proud to announce the release of Koha 3.00.01. This is a stable release of Koha 3.0."
18:07 gmcharlt    3.00.01 == 3.0.1
18:07 slef        leading 0s are optional after points
18:07 jwagner     Note different usage of 3.0.1 and 3.00.01.  The download file is named koha-3.00.01-stable.tar.gz, and when you're in Koha, the about says 3.01.00.015.
18:08 slef        erm, about shouldn't say that
18:08 slef        should be 3.00.01.015 AIUI
18:08 jwagner     I told them it meant pretty much the same thing, but they were very much confused, & not familiar with the optional zero thing.  Can usage be standardized on the page?
18:08 gmcharlt    right - version numbers that start with 3.01 (aka 3.1) are from the current development branch
18:09 gmcharlt    the specific version number corresponding to koha-3.00.01-stable.tar.gz is 3.00.01.005 IIRC
18:09 jwagner     slef, I've never seen the AIVI ending, just variations on the ending .0xx number.
18:09 slef        AIUI = as I understand it
18:11 slef        I'm not going to add extra zeroes to the headline release numbers.  I think it's quite common that 3.00.01 would be the same as 3.0.1
18:11 jwagner     Oh, sorry, I'm not up on abbreviations :-(  Anyway, one of my servers says the above, and another (just reloaded clean Saturday) says 3.01.00.018.
18:11 liz_nekls   lol@slef
18:11 gmcharlt    right, those are from the 3.1/3.2 stable branch
18:12 jwagner     I don't really care what we call it, but can we standardize usage?  A lot of people looking at koha.org aren't developers and won't have a clue that This equals That.
18:12 gmcharlt    jwagner: sure, it can be improved
18:12 gmcharlt    but keep in mind that were are talking about two separate verisons
18:12 gmcharlt    the 3.0.x stable version
18:13 gmcharlt    and the 3.1.x unstable, that will become 3.2.0
18:13 slef        I don't think understanding that leading 0s vanish is a developer-skill-related issue.
18:13 gmcharlt    somebody who is downloading and installing from the distribution announced on the home page is on the stable release
18:14 gmcharlt    whereas your databases are tracking the development branch
18:14 jwagner     gmcharlt, I tried explaining it pretty much that way but they were still confused.  Maybe a helpful footnote somewhere denoting the differences?  We can keep the secret decoder ring for the developers :-)
18:15 slef        jwagner: please stop insulting non-developers
18:16 jwagner     Who's insulting them?  I deal with them every day.  They don't speak the language and that's fine.  It's my job to interpret.  But it would be easier if they were seeing the same thing in different places.
18:17 slef        educate, don't interpret
18:28 liz_nekls   well, that killed the conversation.
18:29 Headiee     yeah
18:29 Headiee     liz_nekls did you try the latest git release from libki?
18:30 liz_nekls   I actually haven't :(
18:30 Headiee     ok
18:30 Headiee     im using it with 8w mini pc`s
18:30 liz_nekls   Neat!
18:30 Headiee     been waiting like 3 years for a decent thing to come up
18:31 liz_nekls   can you link the pc's you're using?
18:31 Headiee     http://www.linutop.com
18:31 Headiee     fram france
18:31 Headiee     from
18:31 Headiee     theyre a bit to slow but with firefox over network it runs smooth enough
18:32 Headiee     also use them for display screens
18:33 liz_nekls   that is sweet
18:33 jwagner     Sorry, got pulled away for a bit.
18:34 liz_nekls   one of our libraries is in a bit of a hardware pinch (6 yr old computers, no money to replace them) and it would be sweet to use libki on them
18:34 liz_nekls   on those nettop dealies
18:35 jwagner     gmcharlt, different question.  On fixing the corporate template/syspref patch, I updated the description to remove the It's (changed to It is).  I need to do that in the unimarc_standard_sysprefs.sql as well, right?  Where you wanted to remove the language check was in the updatedatabase.pl entry?
18:35 liz_nekls   we were looking at the MSI AD1900
18:35 liz_nekls   AE1900
18:35 Headiee     liz_nekls yeah but do they have a dealer in your area
18:35 liz_nekls   idk :( but we're ok ordering over the internet
18:36 Headiee     liz_nekls looks sweet also that msi
18:36 liz_nekls   headiee you're in france?
18:37 Headiee     no netherlands
18:37 liz_nekls   AH.
18:37 Headiee     but i ordered 2 off them and 1 seems to have "cold boot" problems
18:37 liz_nekls   do your patrons like them?
18:37 liz_nekls   ew
18:37 liz_nekls   that's not so cool
18:37 Headiee     yeah
18:37 Headiee     but i kinda neglected to fix it with the guys
18:37 Headiee     i probably could have returned it
18:37 liz_nekls   hate it when that happens
18:37 Headiee     :)
18:37 liz_nekls   :D
18:37 Headiee     yeah me to
18:38 liz_nekls   "oh, i'll do that tomorrow"
18:38 liz_nekls   ...
18:38 liz_nekls   ...
18:38 Headiee     then i put m on the im not touching you today shellf :P
18:38 liz_nekls   LOL
18:38 liz_nekls   yessir
18:38 liz_nekls   er
18:38 Headiee     but i wanna get a 6 package
18:38 Headiee     and use 3 for internet
18:38 Headiee     and 3 for display screens
18:38 Headiee     we use amarok to play music, dont know if you use it
18:38 liz_nekls   we have a debate here going on whether patrons would be able to adjust
18:38 liz_nekls   to the "non windows" experience
18:39 Headiee     but i wanna display on the upper floor what music is being played and serve covers and lyrics
18:39 liz_nekls   oh neat!
18:39 Headiee     liz_nekls libki uses xfce which is neat to minimalize into a working desktop
18:39 liz_nekls   I run easy peasy on my netbook and I think that would be a fantastic interface for patron computers
18:40 Headiee     "windows" companys are also trying to make online virtual desktops
18:40 Headiee     easy peasy?
18:40 liz_nekls   it's ubuntu for netbooks
18:40 Headiee     ah
18:40 Headiee     hmm it might run in linutop
18:40 liz_nekls   has this really sweet desktop overlay (can't remember what it's technically called... application launcher? something) that is insanely easy to use
18:40 liz_nekls   yea, it might
18:40 Headiee     its ubuntu as well afaik
18:41 Headiee     maybe libki can be used with it to
18:41 Headiee     showing the timer somewher enice
18:41 liz_nekls   i'm sure it can, only requires php/cake right?
18:41 Headiee     i have a friend who hacks stuff for me
18:41 slef        mmm xfce... I remember being sysadmin on CDE workstations. Not fun.
18:41 Headiee     he made a barcode ticket generator for libki
18:41 liz_nekls   i'm not so keen on virtualizations
18:42 Headiee     slef probably cause you wanted more power!
18:42 Headiee      :D
18:42 Headiee     my patrons only want firefox
18:42 liz_nekls   MOAR POWAH
18:42 Headiee     which causes the problem of javascript/flash
18:42 Headiee     still not running smoothly on heavy sites
18:42 Headiee     bbl out for a smoke
18:43 slef        Headiee: nah, just that CDE was far fiddlier than xfce and looked similar
18:43 slef        problem of javascript/flash?  power consumption?
18:44 liz_nekls   probably performance
18:45 slef        gmcharlt: which Dr Who are you up to there?
18:45 gmcharlt    last series of David Tennant, but not the specials that started running this year
18:46 gmcharlt    I would happily pay the BBC TV license fee to get them the same time as you
18:46 jwagner     But, but, gmcharlt, Doctor Who is a state of mind, not a day of the week!!!  (Speaking as someone who has a pretty much complete run of episodes from First Doctor through Fifth Doctor.)
18:46 owen        Has the new Doctor started in UK?
18:46 slef        just get a uk server and proxy get_iplayer through it
18:46 jwagner     A friend of mine has mysterious sources for getting the new specials pretty much as soon as they air in the UK.
18:46 slef        owen: no. Three 10th dr specials this year IIRC.
18:46 gmcharlt    of course, but I'd happily pay to ensure that there's more and more Who
18:47 slef        owen: one of three has aired; one in summer I think and I expect the last one is Christmas
18:48 slef        some early stuff simply doesn't exist any more
18:48 slef        tapes lost/destroyed
18:48 gmcharlt    owen: I would love there to be complete seasons on DVD, but on the other hand I appreciate the good job the BBC has done with the extras
18:49 gmcharlt    the extra time is worth it
18:49 slef        jwagner: well, they splatter north-west europe with MPEG-2 copies of it by multiple methods (DVB-S and DVB-T), so it's not hard to get a copy
18:49 jwagner     gmcharlt, did you see my earlier question on the sysprefs patch?
18:50 gmcharlt    jwagner: on channel?  I must have missed it
18:50 slef        [19:35]<jwagner> gmcharlt, different question.  On fixing the corporate
18:50 slef        		 template/syspref patch, I updated the description to remove
18:50 slef        		 the It's (changed to It is).  I need to do that in the
18:50 slef        		 unimarc_standard_sysprefs.sql as well, right?  Where you
18:50 slef        		 wanted to remove the language check was in the
18:50 slef        		 updatedatabase.pl entry?
18:51 gmcharlt    slef: thanks
18:51 jwagner     slef beat me to it.
18:51 gmcharlt    jwagner: answer to your question is yes, I was talking about updatedatabase.pl
18:51 liz_nekls   re shockwave/flash vs. netbooks yea, it is kind of "heavy" on the atom hardware. It doesn't work as well as it does on a "normal" computer
18:51 slef        by the way, the eleventh doctor is from the same county as me and went to the same university as me.  Meanwhile, I can see Torchwood's home from my office... on a clear day... with binoculars.
18:52 slef        liz_nekls: gnash not shockwave.  Still power-hungry.
18:52 jwagner     OK, I've fixed the files.  Still a novice at this git stuff -- in theory I should be able to squash the two together.  Theory is great...  I'm having to work on something else right now, so it may be a day or two before Theory meets Practice.
18:52 liz_nekls   yes, the software that supports the formerly always known as shockwave content on the web.
18:53 gmcharlt    I always get nervous when Theory and Practice are in the same room - the results are not always pretty ;)
18:53 Headiee     liz_nekls well some website put like 3 bad coded players into a page
18:53 Headiee     and then it gets confused
18:53 slef        on the UK-US airdates: I'm surprised BBC has Heroes only 1 week behind NBC
18:54 liz_nekls   oh I'm with ya headiee
18:54 liz_nekls   lol gmcharlt
18:55 gmcharlt    slef: interesting.  BBC willing to pay NBC more to get Heroes sooner than SciFi/BBC American the other way to get Doctor Who, perhaps?
18:55 owen        I'm surprised to hear that slef. Just as I'm surprised the BBC doesn't realize that folks are going to get their Dr. Who ASAP no matter what continent they'r eon
18:56 owen        Ah, gmcharlt's probably got it
18:56 Headiee     only UPC has the right to show bbc 3/4 prime and such here
18:56 slef        yeah, a week means that it's easier to wait for broadcast than to proxy a copy off of hulu
18:57 slef        Headiee: surely you're in the satellite footprint?  Where in NL roughly?
18:58 Headiee     friesland :) northern part
18:58 Headiee     yeah but dont have a sattelite system
18:58 slef        http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/astra2d.html
18:58 slef        oh well... BBC is there FTA if you get one... unlike nasty NOS
19:02 liz_nekls   fyi, runescape runs fine on the eee platform (lol)
19:02 Headiee     liz_nekls no really... thats why most of our patrons didnt play anymore
19:02 Headiee     cause runescape didnt go smooth
19:02 liz_nekls   it seems to work on my eee...
19:02 liz_nekls   but I"m in normal def not hi def
19:02 Headiee     yeah those linutop machines have a light intel chipset
19:03 liz_nekls   mine's got an atom
19:03 liz_nekls   which I thought was the same thing
19:03 liz_nekls   but maybe not?
19:04 liz_nekls   we're looking at the eeebox hardware
19:05 liz_nekls   eetop, apologies
19:05 Headiee     :)
19:18 liz_nekls   hmm... I'm sure some of my librarians would be thrilled if Runescape suddenly "didn't work" anymore
19:18 Headiee     haha
19:18 liz_nekls   I personally always try to make the patrons happy, but they... sometimes they don't care so much
19:19 Headiee     im not in a library though
19:19 Headiee     :)
19:19 liz_nekls   because runescape != educational use
19:19 Headiee     yeah
19:19 Headiee     we provide the service to extend things
19:19 Headiee     not to make a playground
19:20 liz_nekls   you're not in a library, but some folks in the US want to make libraries the community playground... funny that
19:20 liz_nekls   :D
19:20 Headiee     :)
19:20 liz_nekls   (I'm for it)
19:20 Headiee     yeah but games can be played elsewhere
19:20 Headiee     or for a short period
19:20 liz_nekls   all true
19:21 liz_nekls   i'm glad that my job is only to put the infrastructure in place, not make the supporting policy
19:22 Headiee     i do everything
19:22 gmcharlt    I can imagine an eat your vegetables sort of thing
19:23 gmcharlt    you must spend five minutes of timing searching the boring OPAC we've given you
19:23 gmcharlt    to get 15 minutes of play time on the library Wii
19:25 liz_nekls   LOL
19:28 gmcharlt    owen: what's the hash of the commit for the correct 3119 patch
19:30 owen        b759186eb6566d9656b5571664beb73f98e3cce9
19:30 gmcharlt    thx
20:01 JoeTho      is there a server problem or something at liblime this afternoon? Anyone listening? -Joe in Kansas
20:02 owen        JoeTho, everything seems to be okay for us at NPL
20:12 gmcharlt    JoeTho: what's the problem?
20:15 JoeTho      I sent a note to support@liblime- we are noticing all sorts of little problems, slow indexing / re-indexing???
20:15 JoeTho      And I realize this isn't exactly the right forum for this.
20:18 gmcharlt    JoeTho: hmm - I know that there was some reindexing going on in the CKLS database earlier today
20:30 liz_nekls   we haven't seen any issues here... or no reported issues rather
20:30 liz_nekls   @joetho
20:52 richard     morning
21:18 chris       hi richard
21:19 richard     hiya chris
21:19 richard     u still in the us?
21:19 chris       yep, still in texas
21:20 chris       flying in 2 hours
21:49 liz_nekls   gmcharlt re: sip2 enhancement quote... did you mean that there is internal LL review or that NEKLS has the quote for review?
21:50 liz_nekls   chris: hope you have a safe and boring flight home.
21:50 liz_nekls   (I always wish for flights to be boring because exciting flights usually mean something bad happened)
21:50 chris       heh thanks
21:50 chris       yep, it's a good point
22:51 pianohacker Good evening
23:31 gmcharlt    liz_nekls: the former
23:50 pianohacker About to start off a conversation on switching template modules on koha-devel. Wish me luck, and I'd like lilies for my gravestone
00:20 brendan     good luck pianohacker!
00:20 pianohacker brendan: thanks
00:20 pianohacker You have any opinion on the matter? I'm currently gunning for template::toolkit
00:21 brendan     heh at the moment now --
00:22 brendan     whoops -- no not now.
00:22 brendan     I've used the template::toolkit before -- but I forget where...
00:23 brendan     or am I thinking html::template
02:14 pianohacker Good night, all
03:16 Amit        hi chris, brendan, mason
03:16 brendan     Hey Amit -- how you doing
03:16 Amit        i m fine what about u
03:16 brendan     I think chris is flying back to NZ right now
03:16 Amit        and how is kohaconf
03:17 brendan     was excellent
03:17 Amit        trying pazpar2 with koha
03:17 brendan     cool
03:18 brendan     let me know how it goes
03:18 Amit        ok
03:19 mason       heya amit, brendan...
03:19 Amit        heya mason
03:19 brendan     hello mason
03:26 mason       ive been poking at Owen's 'recent-items-list' feature..
03:26 mason       http://stable.kohaaloha.com
03:27 mason       after a tidy-up , its nearly ready to commit back it to koha.org..
03:35 Amit        mason: this is stable koha demo
03:35 mason       nah, just a dev koha of mine...
03:36 Amit        for images ( u uses php code)
03:37 mason       no, a perl version of owens feature..
03:37 mason       http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=74
03:42 Amit        mason; right now i m working on css
03:42 Amit        my koha installation is one
03:42 Amit        but opac is different to each library
03:43 mason       cool, i understand...
03:43 mason       im still learning css too ;)
03:43 Amit        i have set some env variable in koha-httpd.conf
03:43 Amit        too
03:44 Amit        <VirtualHost localhost:8081>
03:44 Amit           ServerAdmin  webmaster@linux-2rqj
03:44 Amit           DocumentRoot /home/kohaclone/opac/htdocs
03:44 Amit           ServerName linux-2rqj:8081
03:44 Amit        #  ServerAlias opac.mydomain.com
03:44 Amit           ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/koha/ "/home/kohaclone/opac/cgi-bin/opac/"
03:44 Amit           ScriptAlias /index.html "/home/kohaclone/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl"
03:44 Amit           ScriptAlias /opac-search.pl "/home/kohaclone/opac/cgi-bin/opac/search"
03:44 Amit           ScriptAlias /search "/home/kohaclone/opac/cgi-bin/opac/search"
03:44 Amit           ErrorLog /var/log/kohaclone/koha-opac-error_log
03:44 Amit        #  TransferLog /var/log/kohaclone/koha-opac-access_log
03:44 Amit           SetEnv KOHA_CONF "/etc/kohaclone/koha-conf.xml"
03:44 Amit           SetEnv PERL5LIB "/home/kohaclone/lib"
03:44 Amit           SetEnv OPAC_CSS_OVERRIDE "cce.css"
03:44 Amit           SetEnv OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT "branch:CCE"
03:44 Amit           SetEnv OPAC_LIMIT_OVERRIDE		
03:44 Amit           Options +FollowSymLinks
03:44 Amit           ErrorDocument 400 /cgi-bin/koha/errors/400.pl
03:44 Amit           ErrorDocument 401 /cgi-bin/koha/errors/401.pl
03:44 Amit           ErrorDocument 403 /cgi-bin/koha/errors/403.pl
03:44 Amit           ErrorDocument 404 /cgi-bin/koha/errors/404.pl
03:44 Amit           ErrorDocument 500 /cgi-bin/koha/errors/500.pl
03:44 Amit        #  Rewrite Rules
03:44 Amit           RewriteEngine On
03:44 Amit        #  Uncomment to turn on rewrite logging
03:44 Amit        #  RewriteLog /var/log/kohaclone/koha-opac-rewrite.log
03:44 Amit        #  RewriteLogLevel 1
03:44 Amit           RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} (.*?)(?:[A-Za-z0-9_-]+)=&(.*)
03:44 Amit           RewriteRule (.+) $1?%1%2 [N,R,NE]
03:44 Amit           RewriteRule ^/bib/([^\/]*)/?$ /cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail\.pl?bib=$1 [PT]
03:44 Amit           RewriteRule ^/isbn/([^\/]*)/?$ /search?q=isbn:$1 [PT]
03:44 mason       eep..
03:44 Amit           RewriteRule ^/issn/([^\/]*)/?$ /search?q=issn:$1 [PT]
03:44 Amit        <Directory /home/kohaclone>
03:45 Amit                Order allow,deny
03:45 Amit                Allow from all
03:45 Amit        </Directory>
03:45 Amit        </VirtualHost>
03:45 Amit        SetEnv OPAC_CSS_OVERRIDE "cce.css"
03:45 Amit           SetEnv OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT "branch:CCE"
03:45 mason       eeep..
03:45 Amit           SetEnv OPAC_LIMIT_OVERRIDE		
03:45 Amit        like this
03:45 Amit        but not working
03:45 Amit        and made css also
03:45 mason       amit, pastebin.com ;)
03:46 Amit        mason: please give me url
03:46 Amit        got it
03:50 Amit        mason: have u seen
03:50 Amit        mason: http://pastebin.com/m78afd331
03:52 mason       sorry, back..
03:53 Amit        i think some changes in javascript too
03:53 mason       your 'OPAC_CSS_OVERRIDE' are new variables?
03:54 mason       or standard koha variable?
03:54 Amit        new
03:54 mason       ok...
03:56 mason       looks like a nice idea...
03:57 Amit        but not working
03:58 mason       oh well.., keep hacking at it :)
05:04 Amit        mason: i have done
05:05 Amit        multi_opac
05:16 hdl_laptop  Amit: hi
05:16 Amit        hi hdl
05:16 hdl_laptop  Is koha working out of the box with pazpar2 or have you hacked it so that it could work ?
05:17 Amit        means
05:17 hdl_laptop  In fact what do you mean with "trying pazpar2 with koha" ?
05:18 mason       hdl, i think Amit means he is experimenting with koha+pazpar2
05:19 hdl_laptop  I have tried to build a pazpar2 server on multiple zebra instances and query them with Koha But had no luck with that.
05:19 mason       i havent set up pazpar2 yet, so i cant give any advice :/
05:20 hdl_laptop  pazpar2 in koha is used only for FRBRizing editions
05:20 Amit        Mr. Satya trying pazpar2 with koha in my team
05:20 Amit        right now he is not there coming couple of hours
05:21 mason       your team has success with  pazpar2 yet, Amit?
05:21 mason       hi hdl  :)
05:21 hdl_laptop  with saying trying pazpar2 with koha what do you mean ? Do you mean have koha with a pazpar2 setup so that Editions are FRBRized ?
05:21 hdl_laptop  hi mason
05:22 hdl_laptop  or do you mean more ?
05:23 Amit        mason: we are trying that..we did the local setup successfully but have problem with z39.50
05:24 mason       ah, cool - that sounds like a good start!
05:24 hdl_laptop  Amit, from what I read, it seems that pazpar2 is not acting as a z3950 server.
05:25 hdl_laptop  But rather as a SRU/SRW server
05:28 Amit        hdl: we are getting-----<IfModule mod_proxy.c>
05:28 Amit        ProxyRequests Off
05:28 Amit        <Proxy *>
05:28 Amit        AddDefaultCharset off
05:28 Amit        Order deny,allow
05:28 Amit        Allow from all
05:28 Amit        </Proxy>
05:28 Amit        ProxyVia Off
05:28 Amit        ProxyPass /pazpar2/search.pz2 http://pazpardemo.osslabs.biz:9004/search.pz2
05:28 Amit        LogLevel Debug
05:28 Amit        Alias /pazpar2 /usr/local/share/pazpar2/
05:29 Amit        </IfModule>
05:29 Amit        [Wed Apr 22 01:23:47 2009] [error] (110)Connection timed out: proxy: HTTP: attempt to connect to 74.207.240.165:9004 (pazpardemo.osslabs.biz) failed
05:29 Amit        [Wed Apr 22 01:23:47 2009] [error] ap_proxy_connect_backend disabling worker for (pazpardemo.osslabs.biz)
05:29 Amit        [Wed Apr 22 01:23:47 2009] [debug] proxy_util.c(1873): proxy: HTTP: has released connection for (pazpardemo.osslabs.biz)
05:29 Amit
05:29 Amit        and we are getting this error: [error] (110)Connection timed out: proxy: HTTP: attempt to connect to 74.207.240.165:9004 (pazpardemo.osslabs.biz) failed
05:29 Amit        [Wed Apr 22 01:23:47 2009] [error] ap_proxy_connect_backend disabling worker for (pazpardemo.osslabs.biz)
05:29 Amit        [Wed Apr 22 01:23:47 2009] [debug] proxy_util.c(1873): proxy: HTTP: has released connection for (pazpardemo.osslabs.biz)
05:29 Amit
05:45 mason       Amit, paste your config and error log stuff into pastebin.com, not IRC  ;)
05:45 Amit        ok
05:45 Amit        sory i forget
05:46 mason       no problem, my friend
05:48 Amit        mason, hdl : http://pastebin.com/m1ee6b800
08:28 slef        gmcharlt: "# Zebra Configuration FAQ - trival change to test openID" and I started looking to see how Zebra supported openID now :-D
09:45 Amit        hi kf
09:48 soul9       does someone know how to back up the biblio frameworks?
09:56 slef        soul9: backup the mysql database
09:57 slef        I think you could probably narrow it to particular tables with a bit of care, but backing up the whole thing is simplest.
09:58 hdl_laptop  soul9:  backup biblio_frameworks marc_tag_structure and marc_subfield_structure and you're set.
09:59 soul9       ah:)
09:59 soul9       good, thanks
11:16 gmcharlt    slef: yes, it's amazing how many protocols Zebra supports :-)