Time Nick Message 09:36 Hui_Nan_ oh, i see, that should be done by installer %-( 09:15 Hui_Nan_ I'm asking, because the choice of 'unimarc' during the web-based installation does not insert this variable into the database 09:14 Hui_Nan_ may it be because of the fact that in Russia many libraries use MARC21? 09:13 Hui_Nan_ who knows, why in ru_RU installer INSERT of marcflavour='UNIMARC' variable is commented out? 08:47 Hui_Nan_ hello 08:28 chris hehe 08:22 hdl_laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZJm000fMRk 08:15 chris hehe 08:14 hdl_laptop ;) 08:14 hdl_laptop and holy meal was mcdonalds 08:13 hdl_laptop starring Stallone 08:13 hdl_laptop Jesus II the return 08:13 hdl_laptop mmm.. some comedians did a quick announce of a fake film 08:12 chris i dont think mc donalds is a holy meal anywhere :) 07:58 hdl_laptop on Holy Thursday... Is it criticizing Holy Meal ? 07:50 chris it was an interesting movie 07:50 chris heh 07:47 paul_p (yesterday, "Super size me" on TV, for the 1st time on a public channel) 07:47 paul_p but frenchies need a closed monday to retrieve from their heavy drinking/eating of sunday :D 07:47 chris we have holiday on friday and monday 07:47 paul_p what's strange in France : holiday on monday, not on friday, where the catholic event is today 07:46 chris monday? 07:46 paul_p chris: nope. 07:43 chris is it a public holiday today in france? 07:37 paul_p for sure ! 07:35 chris I figure the people who come to our talk will know by the end :) 07:34 chris ah never mind 07:34 chris oh yeah 07:30 paul_p I've answered Tina "Koha 2.x Release Manager". You should add "Koha 1.x Release Manager" 07:30 chris for kohacon 07:30 chris I chose Chris Cormack, Translation Manager, Senior Developer Catalyst 07:29 chris yeah my business card doesnt have a job title 07:29 nicomo we basically invent new titles each time 07:29 chris well i didnt really, but I should have 07:29 nicomo so when we (biblibre) are asked about this 07:29 chris i just went Chris Cormack, Some Dude 07:29 nicomo there usually are no titles in french companies 07:29 paul_p nicomo: ++ 07:29 nicomo always funny this issue of titles 07:28 paul_p yep, you're right 07:28 chris CEO ? 07:27 paul_p ? 07:27 paul_p How should I write "Paul Poulain, BibLibre boss, owner" 07:27 chris ah yes 07:27 paul_p chris: to answer Tina question about my title. 07:24 nahuel it's really cool ! 07:24 paul_p chris, yep, seen the mail 07:24 chris which would be good :) 07:24 chris yep, just got an email from david, he might be able to pick all of us up at the airport 07:23 nahuel chris, what's up? waiting for the travel to dallas? 07:23 nahuel hi chris 07:22 paul_p yep 07:22 chris paul_p: did you see the email i cc'd you on? to david? 07:22 paul_p hi chris 07:22 chris hi paul_p and nahuel 06:28 nicomo ok, thanks chris 06:27 chris you might need to ask, what is it supposed to do, I assume it lets you edit any information to do with money on the patron's record 06:25 nicomo and we'll work from there 06:25 nicomo well I'll assume it's a fine 06:25 nicomo needs french translation of sys pref 06:25 nicomo working on patch 06:25 nicomo no, it was an email on koha-devel 06:24 chris ahh no code yet 06:24 chris 2 secs 06:24 chris lemme check the code 06:24 nicomo I'm not sure how this is intended to work 06:23 chris i think its more if its on, it lets you edit a fine 06:23 chris i think If On staff can edit a borrowers accounts 06:23 nicomo then how do you pay fines and all ? 06:23 nicomo if an account line is a fine, more or less, I gather that you can turn this OFF in the staff client? 06:23 chris ahh 06:22 nicomo a new sys pref 06:22 nicomo 'If ON Patron account lines can be changed in the staff client' 06:21 nicomo i need to translate this 06:21 nicomo yes it does 06:21 chris does that help? 06:21 chris its one line of that 06:20 chris so if you are looking a patrons account, which has a list of charges and payments 06:20 chris so it might be a fine, or a credit, or a rental charge 06:20 chris ahh i think its a row in the accountlines table 06:18 nicomo s/chat/what 06:18 nicomo any idea? 06:18 nicomo chat does a "patron's account line" refer too in Koha? 06:18 nicomo translation question 06:17 nicomo so that's all we have here 06:17 chris easter egg hunt 06:14 chris yep that is for sunday 06:14 nicomo does that exist in NZ? 06:13 nicomo and children have to find them 06:13 nicomo you hide them around in the garden or a parc 06:13 nicomo in the shapes of rabbits, eggs a hens mostly 06:13 nicomo tradition in france regarding easter is rather chocolate 06:12 nicomo eh eh 06:12 chris it was a public holiday so I took kahu out to his grandparents and we made hot cross buns, and then ate them :) 06:12 nicomo no, not that i know of 06:11 chris is that an easter tradition in france? 06:11 chris im full of hot cross buns 06:11 chris yup 06:06 nicomo friday night already? 06:06 nicomo hi chris 06:04 chris hi nicomo 19:51 liz-nekls ah, i see what you did there 19:50 gmcharlt liz-nekls: here's the bug to add yourself to the CC list: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2774 19:50 liz-nekls well this definitely explains many problems I was having updating those templates ^.^ 19:49 liz-nekls <3 19:49 liz-nekls hardee har har 19:48 gmcharlt at least, not about that ;) 19:48 liz-nekls YAY 19:48 liz-nekls lol 19:48 gmcharlt so you're not crazy 19:48 liz-nekls AH 19:48 gmcharlt currently, path to MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl is hardcoded to use prog template 19:47 gmcharlt liz-nekls: just checked 19:40 liz-nekls supposedly comes from the 050ab and 090ab marc fields 19:39 liz-nekls (feel like I'm taking crazy pills) 19:38 liz-nekls but I am looking at the xslt templates and I don't see it in there? 19:38 liz-nekls ok I am having a seriously dumb moment... I want to suppress the display of the Call Number (see result number 2 of this search: http://nekls.test.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=twilight) 19:32 chris http://www.newdelhinews.net/story/487886 19:18 chris everything is closed today, so theres not much else to do but eat :) 19:18 chris heh 19:17 gmcharlt sounds good to me 19:17 gmcharlt "new coffee-infused Hot Cross Buns" 19:17 gmcharlt it's important to support the local economy 19:17 chris The bakery chain expect to bake over 250,000 fresh buns on ‘Bun Thursday’, a baking term to describe the day before Easter Friday and one of the busiest days on the baking calendar. 19:16 chris http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0904/S00054.htm 19:15 chris and chocolate eggs on sunday 19:15 gmcharlt ah 19:15 chris good friday 19:14 gmcharlt_ what's the occassion? 19:14 chris tho today is the day you are supposed to eat them 19:14 chris ive actually been eating them the last week :) 19:13 chris every year :) 19:13 chris heck no 19:13 gmcharlt_ chris: seriously? thought they only existed in nursery rhymes ;) 14:50 owen Nope. My family is originally from Kansas 14:50 atz owen: you aren't by chance related to a Pat Leonard in Columbus, are you? 13:47 Hui_Nan_ ok 13:47 Hui_Nan_ >bchurch< /join #liblime --- invitation for whom? 13:47 gmcharlt bchurch and I work for LibLime, that's the missing piece 13:47 Hui_Nan_ I'm confused then 13:46 gmcharlt which is a bot-driven feed of commits, bug reports, and so forth 13:46 gmcharlt freenode does have #kohanews 13:46 gmcharlt ah - the #liblime channel is for LibLime staff 13:46 Hui_Nan_ No IP address found for the domain 'irc.freenode.net' %-((( 13:46 gmcharlt Hui_Nan_: do what? 13:44 Hui_Nan_ what's IP? 13:44 Hui_Nan_ not so easy from behind a socks proxy 13:44 bchurch ok 13:43 gmcharlt bchurch: need to do that on freenode, not the irc.citylink.co.nz IRC server 13:42 bchurch /join #liblime 13:42 Hui_Nan_ looks like another bug %-) 13:39 Hui_Nan_ however only "OPAC (en)" are displayed :-( 13:38 Hui_Nan_ and news are posted to "OPAC (ru-RU)" 13:38 Hui_Nan_ opaclanguages="ru-RU,uk-UA,en,fr-FR,de-DE" 13:37 gmcharlt checkout the opaclanguage syspref 13:37 Hui_Nan_ I define some news for russian but English is shown 13:36 Hui_Nan_ russian is the very first in the list of languages at my iceweasel 3 13:36 gmcharlt not sure what you mean - English is the default if you don't install any translations 13:35 Hui_Nan_ ? 13:35 Hui_Nan_ could anyone give me a clue, an OPAC template for which language is loaded by default 13:34 Hui_Nan_ very well, there's something to do 13:34 kf leaving for easter holidays :) bye #koha 13:34 gmcharlt yes 13:34 Hui_Nan_ Oh, that page, which suggests some authority dictionaries and such a stuff? 13:33 gmcharlt actually, the FrameworksLoaded syspref should tell you which SQL files had been loaded 13:33 Hui_Nan_ ok 13:33 gmcharlt that's all 13:33 gmcharlt or if it was just accidentally unselected when you went through the last of SQL files to load 13:32 Hui_Nan_ %-) 13:32 gmcharlt it could help determine if it always skips loading that SQL file 13:32 Hui_Nan_ I should analyse the web-installation code 13:32 Hui_Nan_ I still can't see how reinstallation could help 13:31 Hui_Nan_ ok, I'll leave it for tomorrow 13:30 gmcharlt that's correct 13:30 Hui_Nan_ however, as far as I remember, the database is filled during the web-setup 13:29 Hui_Nan_ well, unfortunately I did not record the output of make, thus reinstallation would be useful 13:27 gmcharlt not a big deal 13:27 gmcharlt Hui_Nan_: well, the question is whether userpermissions.sql was loaded at all, or if it somehow got skipped 13:26 Hui_Nan_ installation was smooth enough 13:26 Hui_Nan_ gmcharlt: I would have, but what is the reason to do it? 13:15 kf yes, sorry upgrade / update 13:15 gmcharlt Hui_Nan_: do you have time to wipe your database and rerun the installer to see if problem can be reproduced? 13:14 Hui_Nan_ kf, do you mean 'upgrade' by patch or what? 13:14 Hui_Nan_ to file, or not to file? - that is the question :-) 12:58 kf i use 3.00.01 to, but we did a patch, so I did not see this problem 12:57 kf you should file a bug 12:56 Hui_Nan_ ;-))) 12:56 Hui_Nan_ after an hour of studying the code 12:55 Hui_Nan_ just a little bit of handwork to fix a problem 12:55 Hui_Nan_ no problem 12:53 kf dont listen to me g 12:52 kf hm seems not up to date, so perhaps not 12:52 kf perhaps you can use this to get it working: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/userpermissions.sql;h=8f7e1c391f246cad4e12dfa999a8d01b1398e9c1;hb=cafaa26b4537fed3664f6dc658533d95912b5d6f 12:49 kf but it should not be empty 12:49 Hui_Nan_ this is an installation bug 12:49 kf ok 12:49 Hui_Nan_ after I added a row for 'edit_news' UI displayed corresponding permission 12:48 Hui_Nan_ yep! I'm right 12:48 kf perhaps something is missing in your installation 12:48 kf hm 12:48 kf tools is really detailed then 12:48 Hui_Nan_ since the corresponding table was empty, I had no granular permissions at UI 12:48 kf gives you more options than before 12:47 kf UI changes automatically when turning on 12:47 Hui_Nan_ I believe that UI has to know somehow what kind of granular permissions are available 12:46 Hui_Nan_ oh yes, it was there and it was "On" 12:45 kf normally there is no need to add things 12:45 kf GranularPermissions is located on Admin tag in system preferences and should be there after installation 12:44 Hui_Nan_ and news appeared in tools when I added a corresponding record to permissions 12:43 Hui_Nan_ 3.0001005 12:43 kf if you had to add it, perhaps something is wrong 12:43 gmcharlt you had to add it? what version are you running? 12:43 kf it should have been there 12:43 Hui_Nan_ still no granular permissions 12:43 Hui_Nan_ yep, I added this variable as yes|no type, and turned it on 12:42 gmcharlt to enable display, should turn on GranularPermissions system preference, as kf says 12:42 kf is granular permissions On in system preferences? 12:42 Hui_Nan_ says, that there should be several records in зукьшыышщты ефиду 12:42 kf which koha-version do u use? 12:42 gmcharlt Hui_Nan_: granular permissions currently only for tools 12:41 Hui_Nan_ http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=granularpermissions 12:41 kf superlibrarian is a general permission for all and everything 12:41 Hui_Nan_ there is only 'superlibrarian' and alike 12:41 Hui_Nan_ yes, I've been there 12:40 kf go to borrower page and click on more 12:40 Hui_Nan_ looks like installation bug 12:29 Hui_Nan_ it should be some place where I associate 'edit_news' with 'superlibrarian' for example 12:29 Hui_Nan_ where should I add extra privileges for user's privileges? 12:20 Hui_Nan_ it should be because of the empty permissions table