Time  Nick       Message
08:49 kf         hi Amit
08:48 Amit       hi kf
08:16 chris      hi Kivutar
08:16 Kivutar    hello all
07:52 Amit       good night brendan
07:52 brendan    goodnight Amit
07:52 brendan    heya chris osslabs
07:33 osslabs    hi chris
07:32 chris      evening
04:02 Amit       chris: finally Ross Taylor out
03:39 brendan    cool -- I've been followed
03:38 Amit       this is good
03:38 Amit        http://www.zapak.com/cricketscores.z?id=20090326-nzind&flg=gs&gclid=CP-zr8fRv5kCFRMupAod9hnBuQ
03:35 brendan    can't find a good link to watch -
03:33 Amit       ok
03:32 brendan    not watching but listening...
03:32 Amit       chris: dhoni is not playing in 2nd test
03:30 chris      cricket.org
03:28 Amit       ?
03:28 Amit       r u watching a cricket match in TV
03:28 brendan    I'll have to remember that one
03:28 brendan    I like the feed - pretty cool
03:26 brendan    taking a look right now Amit
03:24 Amit       brendan: have u seen match
03:24 Amit       Jesse Ryder is also for century
03:23 mason      top left ;)
03:23 Amit       k
03:23 mason      Live Animation  Quick Scorecard  Full Scorecard  Highlights  Graphs  Squads  REFRESH
03:23 mason      its a js windows :/
03:22 Amit       u have any link?
03:20 Amit       mason: http://www.zapak.com/cricketscores.z?id=20090326-nzind&flg=gs&gclid=CP-zr8fRv5kCFRMupAod9hnBuQ
03:20 Amit       good partnership for 4th wicket
03:19 Amit       yes
03:18 mason      heya guys, is the game available via the net?
03:16 chris      yeah bad start, but recovering well
03:16 Amit       nz is in good position
03:13 Amit       chris: what about second test nz vs india
03:12 Amit       hi chris, mason, brendan
19:56 chris      yes I think a lot of people would be quite excited to try it
19:54 cait       my colleagues got very excited today, when I showed them the test site
19:54 chris      cool
19:54 gmcharlt   I've asked him about it
19:53 chris      just checking i hadnt missed something
19:53 chris      that will be why i couldnt find them then
19:53 gmcharlt   no
19:53 chris      did chris catalfo send some patches for the librarything+koha integration?
19:52 gmcharlt   chris: yes
19:52 chris      gmcharlt: are you around?
19:52 cait       :)
19:52 chris      which is in an hour .. i wonder what its about
19:51 chris      apparently some phd student is interviewing me at 10
19:50 cait       morning chris
19:49 chris      morning
17:39 gmcharlt   + opensso
17:36 hdl_laptop Since, CAS, SHIBBOLETH, openID, NTLM supports are likely to be asked soon.
17:35 hdl_laptop But I think we could eventually come to that.
17:35 hdl_laptop but scarce time and not reaaly goodtime to implement.
17:34 hdl_laptop nice idea.
17:33 atz        that would be nice
17:33 gmcharlt   but get unified handling from the POV of each script
17:33 gmcharlt   so you can separate authorization and template handling
17:33 gmcharlt   making each CGI script a subclass of a common Koha view class would help
17:33 atz        gmcharlt: true, if an atomic version of auth check was really available
17:32 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: I agree.
17:32 gmcharlt   well, not having to make each script have to do that itself is also desirable
17:32 atz        so it gets involved in all this other stuff
17:31 atz        the problem is that we expect Auth to intercede when auth fails, by sending the user to the login page
17:31 atz        the Auth code is written badly, and copied even worse
17:30 atz        long overdue.
17:30 atz        hdl_laptop: ummm... yeah!
17:28 hdl_laptop can't we split get_template_and_user into get_template on the one hand and check_auth on the other hand and pass not the whole query but only the userid/password .... Security problem ??
17:26 atz        we have also wasted a lot of time on that problem
17:26 atz        the "upload_hooks" part of CGI is not really well-structured for common use
17:24 hdl_laptop when loading C4::Auth
17:24 atz        but we can't get around it, since we require $query as an argument to get_template...
17:24 hdl_laptop And he realized that CGI environment was overwritten
17:24 atz        *CGI
17:24 atz        because of weird timing issues in CFI
17:24 atz        yep, that's the only problem area
17:23 hdl_laptop atz: john spent ages on a problem of file import.
17:23 atz        hdl_laptop: why not?
17:23 hdl_laptop atz: it doenot look like a good practice.
17:23 hdl_laptop atz: We often use new CGI in the code.
17:19 jwagner    Belated you're welcome.  If you do find a better place/way of running saved reports, let me know.  That's something I've been meaning to look at, but it's at the bottom of the list right now.
17:12 atz        jwagner: thx for finding that
17:05 atz        sitting on the web interface with NO SECURITY.
17:04 atz        oh... that's actually in cgi-bin?  that's dumb
16:21 jwagner    Looking back at my notes, it is calling a report like this:  intranet/cgi-bin/tools/runreport.pl 184 text jwagner@ptfs.com
16:19 jwagner    The report scheduler doesn't work (sigh), but I've seen how it tries to structure a cron -- shouldn't be hard to extrapolate from that.  It's doing the same thing, trying to run a report by ID #.
16:18 hdl_laptop atz: and maybe curl could be a good solution too.
16:18 hdl_laptop atz: if reports are done the clever way, it should not be too difficult to get one to work.
16:17 hdl_laptop atz: it would really be fine to have such a script. But I dont remember any like that.
16:05 atz        ... can't find it now though
16:04 atz        i swear I saw one before
16:04 atz        does anybody remember a command-line script for running a Koha report by ID#?
14:10 nahuel     else the next time is a REAL alert, they won't be surprised
14:10 nahuel     ah
14:10 atz        silly government idea:  let's change the time of the siren test so that people think it's not a test, in order to provide more awareness.  lame.
14:09 atz        i don't know, but the last time I was surprised to hear the alarms going off at the wrong time... it was because of some "homeland security tornado awareness month"
14:08 nahuel     what's "Tornado Awareness Month" ?
13:53 atz        crap... is it "Tornado Awareness Month" again?... cause the sirens are all going off
13:47 atz        yeah, "only generating forms" in CGI would be basically all of every page
12:48 nahuel     well, i think it's lesser flexibility for more quality...
12:44 gmcharlt   see http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=766 for another example
12:44 gmcharlt   but a form is part of the display
12:43 nahuel     cgi::checkbox is used only to generate forms, not display
12:43 gmcharlt   using CGI::checkbox means that you're forced to change Perl code to make an interface change
12:42 gmcharlt   I disagree - knowledge of HTML should reside in the templates, as much as possible
12:41 gmcharlt   right
12:41 nahuel     like checkbox and others
12:41 nahuel     checkbox & company
12:41 gmcharlt   ah
12:40 nahuel     amha = as my humble opinion
12:40 nahuel     haha
12:40 gmcharlt   "cie amha"?
12:39 nahuel     all koha should use CGI::checkbox & cie amha :)
12:39 nahuel     hmmm
12:38 gmcharlt   would be good
12:38 gmcharlt   so a patch to remove that and just build the checkboxes in the templates
12:38 gmcharlt   admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl and admin/marctagstructure.pl are the only places that use CGI::checkbox
12:38 gmcharlt   hmm
12:37 nahuel     so you cannot validate the data, and your changes do not have any effect
12:37 nahuel     and not from the id
12:37 nahuel     but when you "submit" a form the values are passed using the "key" from name
12:36 nahuel     this patch change the use of CGI::checkbox, etc... to set -name="something" and -id="something$i"
12:35 gmcharlt   what is the bug?
12:35 gmcharlt   appears to fix XHTML validation errors
12:33 nahuel     but I don't really know what this patch should do
12:32 nahuel     (the last one)
12:32 nahuel     on admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl
12:31 nahuel     fine, but find a buggous patch from owen you pushed on 3.0.x in august
12:31 gmcharlt   how are you?
12:31 gmcharlt   not much
12:31 nahuel     hi galen, what's up ?
12:31 gmcharlt   hi nahuel
12:30 nahuel     or gmcharlt ?
12:29 nahuel     kados, are you there ?
12:25 jwagner    We're not Unimarc, but it does have entries.  They're a pain when I'm trying to export from the item table.  Guess I'll have to put up with it, sigh :-(
12:15 paul_p     jwagner: in UNIMARC, yes, it's heavily used !
11:48 jwagner    In the items table, it looks like the more_subfields_xml field is used for non-public notes. Is that correct?  Is it used for anything else?
11:28 greenmang0 Amit: nothing
11:27 Amit       means
11:26 greenmang0 Amit: you didn't reply...
11:26 Amit       yes
11:25 greenmang0 you there?
11:25 greenmang0 Amit:
11:15 anasha     hmm = Indicating thinking
11:15 greenmang0 Amit: so Mr. Savitra got to know about the site...
11:13 Amit       what hmm?
11:11 Amit       hmm ?
11:10 greenmang0 Amit: hmm
11:09 Amit       from LIS forum
11:08 greenmang0 Amit: how did you come to know?
11:02 greenmang0 Amit: yeah
11:01 Amit       greenmang0 this is your www.kohaindia.org site
11:00 greenmang0 Amit:
11:00 Amit       hi greenmang0