Time  Nick        Message
10:59 greenmang0  slef: i never used indexdata, so don't know
10:58 slef        greenmang0: is that the indexdata version not the lagging debian one?
10:58 greenmang0  slef: idzebra is also in Debian testing, not available with lenny
10:58 slef        Class::Adapter even
10:54 slef        chris: are you about and do you think that all deps are in lenny?  I thought we were still two short (Class::Accessor and SMS::Send IIRC)
10:00 kf          hi Amit
10:00 Amit        hi kf
10:00 kf          hm
09:51 Amit        hi mahesh
09:47 mahesh_c    can anyone help? my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result. I am using koha 3.0 in debian lenny
09:45 mahesh_c    can anyone help? my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result. I am using koha 3.0 in debian lenny
09:44 mahesh_c    can anyone help? my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result
09:44 mahesh_c    can anyone help?
09:44 mahesh_c    my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result
07:53 SelfishMan  eh?
07:53 Elwell      me scrolls back. mmmmm. l&p
07:18 SelfishMan  Sweet.  I've officially been informed by my copyright lawyer that the use of *low resolution* book covers/jackets is considered "fair use" in the US as long as it is used for the book in question.
03:48 mason       hey amit
03:24 Amit        gm mason, chris
03:24 Amit        hi koha
23:57 imp         damn :D
23:57 chris       yeah im pretty sure they dont
23:57 imp         do you know if they export l&p? ("world famous in new zealand" somehow says "no" to me ;)
23:51 chris       cool
23:44 imp         visited a friend (she worked as an au pair, later work & travel), so we went around 10 days there
23:42 chris       most of the best scenery is in the south
23:42 chris       its what a lot of tourists do ;)
23:42 imp         i was only on the south island (besides changing the plane on the north island)
23:41 chris       the braided rivers are pretty much a south island thing too
23:41 imp         was a nice place :)
23:40 chris       ah yep, still a bit far north
23:38 imp         that's after the arthur's pass
23:38 imp         http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=-43.007785,171.581383&spn=0.086741,0.153122&t=h&z=13
23:38 chris       yep
23:37 imp         does the map jump back to punakaiki?
23:37 chris       nope thats too far north for mt cook, thats one of the mts in the kaikoura ranges
23:36 imp         on the left "triangle" from the road
23:36 imp         but i took it http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&geocode=&q=punakaiki&sll=-41.541478,173.452148&sspn=2.841075,4.899902&ie=UTF8&ll=-43.007911,171.57383&spn=0.083728,0.153122&t=h&z=13
23:35 imp         hmm, dunno right now where mt cook is
23:33 chris       with mt cook behind the cloud
23:33 chris       at a guess im gonna say tasman
23:33 chris       south island again, maybe at the foot of one of the glaciers
23:32 imp         http://hannover.ccc.de/~imp/100b4901.jpg
23:31 chris       sure :)
23:31 imp         want another?
23:31 imp         indeed :D
23:31 chris       rocks are a dead give away :)
23:30 chris       west coast of the south island
23:30 chris       punakaiki
23:30 imp         hm, let's see if you know where i took this http://hannover.ccc.de/~imp/100_4802.jpg :D
23:29 chris       wellington, bottom of the north island
23:28 imp         chris: are you from the north or south of .nz?
23:17 pianohacker true
23:17 imp         pianohacker: not really - you depend on the rest
23:17 pianohacker imp: good
23:17 imp         pianohacker: bulkmarcimport.pl sounds great :) (a option to import a big bunch over the webif would be nice as well)
23:16 pianohacker chris: All in all, probably a better problem to have economically :P
23:16 chris       we export more than we import to a lot of places
23:15 chris       we have kinda the opposite problem
23:14 imp         that's quite common here - at least on construction sites
23:13 chris       there is an industry growing around turning them into offices/homes :)
23:13 chris       yep
23:13 imp         shit happens if you only import stuff^^
23:12 chris       from the lopsided trade with china
23:12 chris       the US has a big stockpile of them
23:12 chris       you can swap them for containers
23:12 pianohacker Heh
23:11 pianohacker Would bulkmarcimport.pl work for your needs?
23:11 pianohacker I'm out of ideas, unfortunately
23:10 pianohacker Ah, us Americans and our wasteful culture :)
23:10 imp         but you can run out of newlines one day ;)
23:09 imp         line 560 - 608 are just whitespaces and newlines
23:09 pianohacker That's related to indentation in the original template file, and nothing to worry about
23:08 imp         somehow there are many unneeded newlines
23:08 imp         http://pastebin.ca/1361791 that's the site with the marc uploads (on german, but i guess that doesn't matter much)
23:02 imp         (besides the fact that the content of the sessions table is much smaller now)
23:01 imp         still the same
22:59 pianohacker Other than that, I unfortunately have no ideas
22:59 pianohacker Could you try logging out, deleting that session, then trying the process again? It's possible something is odd with your session.
22:58 imp         select count(*) from sessions; -> 1
22:55 pianohacker How many lines do you have in your sessions table? That's the only major thing I can see that might cause problems in background-job-progress
22:54 pianohacker k
22:54 imp         (... means the line appeared some more times)
22:53 imp         http://pastebin.ca/1361783
22:49 pianohacker imp: those lines in a pastebin might be helpful
22:49 imp         nope
22:49 pianohacker imp: This is starting to sound like the realm of problem you might need to pull out the Perl debugger for. Do you have any experience with that?
22:49 imp         but i can offer some lines from var/log/koha-error_log (from install-time)
22:48 imp         mysql is fine
22:47 pianohacker (note that background-job-progress can be a tad... wonky)
22:47 pianohacker Hmm. Is MySQL happy?
22:46 imp         nothing :/
22:44 pianohacker Any error messages anywhere?
22:44 imp         intranet/cgi-bin/tools/background-job-progress.pl eats up to 4 seconds cpu time on my maschine
22:39 imp         yay.. somehow some marc files doesn't show up in the list of files to import, no filename and the #bibs & co are set to 0
22:03 imp         chris: do i have to run misc/translator/update.pl first?
21:57 chris       it will rebuild htme for you (dont do it on production of course)
21:57 chris       if you run install-code.pl de-DE
21:56 chris       there is an install-code.pl
21:56 chris       under misc/translation
21:56 imp         i'll keep it in mind :)
21:55 chris       so if you regenerated the templates, you should get better results
21:55 chris       also, i think the staff interface files got clobbered with the opac ones, .. i have fixed the .po files in git
21:54 chris       yeah they have been making fixes
21:54 imp         btw, the german translation is a little bit buggy ;)
21:53 chris       yep
21:53 imp         ok :)
21:53 atz         my complaints about that patch still stand... but it's good to know the problem is unrelated
21:53 chris       ill reply then if you dont mind?
21:53 chris       sweet
21:52 imp         chris: subscribed myself on the list after atz wrote the mail (+ delay from greylisting) :/
21:51 chris       be good if you replied to joes email with that info
21:45 imp         dropped all tables and now i can add new patrons
21:44 imp         guess the database (mysql) update procedure from 3.0.0 to 3.0.1 is broken
21:43 imp         ...
19:49 imp         :D
19:48 chris       its better to not do it in the first place of course :)
19:48 chris       catching it before its released is always good
19:45 imp         depends on the point of view ;)
19:43 chris       nice catch imp and atz
19:43 chris       (if it is that patch that is the problem)
19:42 chris       the good news is it was at least added after the release, so it will only affect people running from git
19:04 imp         subscribed myself there as well
19:03 imp         indeed :)
19:02 atz         we'll see what ppl have to say in response on koha-devel when they get back to work on monday
19:02 atz         the best i can say is that it is *slightly* better in HEAD
19:01 atz         it's a frankenstein
19:01 atz         yeah, members is butt ugly
19:01 imp         it's quite ugly code imho...
19:01 atz         we
19:01 atz         imp: email to koha-devel sent
19:01 atz         S probably corresponding to staff....
19:00 atz         yeah, that's the category of categories that I mentioned
18:59 imp         moah.... eq 'C', eq 'I', eq 'P'
18:53 imp         (from intranet/cgi-bin/members/memberentry.pl line 139)
18:53 imp         'S' means what?
18:53 imp         if (ref($borrower_data) && ($borrower_data->{'category_type'} eq 'S') && ...
18:46 imp         thanks :)
18:46 atz         i'm emailing koha-devel right now
18:43 imp         perl / cgi
18:43 imp         memory isn't the problem...
18:42 atz         difference is probably in CPU, since it affect bottlenecks like XML parsing
18:42 atz         that does seem a bit small, but I've run it on debian VMs w/ only 256 RAM
18:39 imp         hm
18:38 atz         we run most of ours in 3rd party datacenters
18:38 imp         btw, on what kind of hardware do you run koha? it's quite slow here on a netra t1 with 500mhz & 256mb ram...
18:37 atz         and it adds an unconditional warn?  wtf junk patch.
18:36 atz         hmm... you're right, it's just whitespace
18:36 imp         are there any changes in memberentry.pl besides whitespaces?
18:35 atz         i.e., file a bug
18:35 atz         if you used git for your installation, you could try selectively reverting it.... but since this is the stable release we should probably question hdl (release maintainer) about it
18:33 atz         introduced 8 days ago
18:33 atz         http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=239700d079ca6c33d3bc521c1f602e56f66069d1
18:33 atz         i suspect it is related to this patch:
18:32 imp         3.00.01.005
18:31 atz         "version 3.00.01 stable you should use" ?
18:30 imp         .oO(it's the stable release)
18:28 atz         sounds like we're getting close to "file a bug" territory then... i'm surprised this hasn't come up before though, since it would seem it should affect everybody
18:27 imp         already did that (nearly)
18:27 atz         for debugging purposes, see if it will take a record if you populate every field....
18:27 atz         presumably you had one filled in?
18:26 imp         don't understand why surname seems to be null
18:23 imp         http://pastebin.ca/1361594
18:18 atz         but the response is usually to show it in red and say something like "userid is a required field"
18:17 atz         it depends... you can make additional fields optional/mandatory
18:16 imp         the OPAC login stuff is optional, right?
18:15 atz         of course he doesn't exist... that's why you're adding him
18:14 atz         hmmm... sorry, haven't seen that one
18:14 imp         " This patron does not exist. " that's what i get after filling the needed stuff and clicking save :/
18:11 atz         the complexity that some organizations want conflicts a bit w/ the simplicity i'd prefer
18:10 atz         actually i think those are categories *of categories*... if that makes any sense
18:10 imp         it's a little bit confusing that you can choose at the end of the page already some categories
18:09 atz         right
18:09 imp         atz: so i should start with "Patron Categories > New category", right?
18:07 atz         make sure you go through all the steps in the admin page (basically in order)
18:07 atz         imp: go into admin and define your patron types
18:03 imp         i can't add new accounts in my fresh 3.0.1 setup - there is no dropdown menu from the "New" button to select what kind of user i want to create