Time Nick Message 10:49 kf good night chris 10:36 imp good night 10:27 chris why shouldnt you have as many languages as possible on your opac? 10:27 kf than intranet 10:27 kf opac-languages are more likely to be added later 10:26 imp kf: sure, but how many languages do you need in your installation? ;) 10:25 kf but it should be also possible to add languages later 10:25 imp paul_p: or being able to select the ones you want to install 10:22 paul_p in fact, the best solution would be to distribute only english, and create templates in web installer 10:19 kf imp: i think to have localized images is a nice option, we already use bridge icons with german subtitles in our currend opacs. but I agree, that with more and more languages it uses to much space, so perhaps it could be optional, so when you create a localized folder, it will be used 10:12 imp kf: there is already intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/ 10:07 kf perhaps it should use a default folder when there is no folder with localized images 10:06 imp 316mb for a default installation is just huge - and 195M for intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl looks stupid 10:05 paul_p (but at least, it's not a visible bug) 10:04 paul_p although I agree in most cases, it's useless 10:04 paul_p imp: with specific images, a library with multiple language can have "localized" versions of images. so that's not necessary a bad thing. 10:04 imp indeed :) 10:02 chris its the beauty of free software, if you dont like something you can change it :) 10:01 chris yep 10:00 imp always the same answer ;P 09:57 chris :-) 09:57 chris send a patch 09:51 imp errrm.... why does any language contain it's own images? a shared folder for the images would be great 09:47 chris hmm yeah i think i remember atz saying it was buggy 09:43 kf i think this may be perhaps a problem 09:42 kf there is already the option in barcode to use annual numbers like 2008/1 09:42 kf i thought about a plugin similar to barcode.pl 09:42 kf nice to know that 09:42 kf ah 09:41 chris and if you use xslt you can make them show in the search results too 09:41 chris and then just edit the framework to make them show in the edit screens 09:40 chris ie you can store stuff in marc fields and subfields that arent mapped to a field in items or biblio etc 09:40 chris you probably dont need to map it at all 09:38 chris ahh ok 09:37 kf its not used now, i want to use it for import of accession numbers 09:36 chris what is 952i? 09:36 kf but im not sure if this will have any disadvantages 09:36 kf now i can save 09:36 kf i reconfigured 952$i using no items column 09:35 kf thx chris 09:35 kf ok 09:35 chris i search the recent patches cant see any thing 09:35 chris ahh yeah i think stuff in there is stored as xml, might be best to ask on the koha-devel list 09:31 kf is it necessary to link all item fields to columns in item? 09:30 kf but now, when i save something like "2009/123" i get an xml-output, when editing the item the next time 09:29 kf chris: i think it changed its behaviour lately - we need a additional field for german accession numbers (additional to barcode). someone suggested using that column 09:29 kf chris: you can train with German Koha version :) 09:28 chris hmm im not sure what that column is for 09:28 Koha Anyone? Trouble creating a staff user with LDAP switched on, no access. Denied. 09:28 chris kf: will do :) 09:27 kf hi amit 09:27 Amit hi kf 09:26 kf just ask, when you want to learn more :) 09:26 Koha Hi all, are there any LDAP guru's around ATM? 09:25 Kivutar thanks chris 09:24 chris kf: ill have a look and no that was all the german i remember from when we had a swiss exchange student living with us :) 09:24 chris if they are any use to them, feel free to use/fix :) 09:24 kf i tried to use it for our accession numbery by linking it to 952$i 09:24 chris http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=rest/borrowers/single_borrower.pl 09:23 chris and 09:23 chris http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=lib/Koha;hb=cache 09:23 Kivutar oh i see 09:23 kf can someone explain how more_subfields_xml is supposed to work? 09:23 chris and using webservices as a good way to test 09:23 chris im playing with the caching framework 09:23 kf :) 09:23 Kivutar ok 09:22 chris not really, just playing around 09:22 Kivutar chris: so you're coding webservices for koha too? 09:22 chris thanks 09:22 chris ahh :) 09:22 kf P1: wie geht es dir? P2: danke gut. und dir? P1: mir auch. 09:22 kf i think: auch 09:21 Kivutar :) 09:21 chris hi Kivutar :) 09:21 Kivutar hi 09:21 paul_p chris: kivutar is jean-andre 09:21 chris how do you say also? 09:20 kf und dir? 09:20 kf fine, thx ;) learning german, chris? 09:20 kf gut, danke 09:19 chris wie geht es dir? 09:17 kf heya chris :) 09:15 chris heya kf 08:53 Amit hi nahuel 08:50 nahuel talking with indexdata 08:50 nahuel well i'm away 08:50 nahuel :) 08:50 nahuel chris, cool 08:50 chris i will have lots of questions for nahuel at the developer conference :) 08:50 chris ohhh very cool 08:49 paul_p chris: nahuel & hdl are at indexdata offices, for 2 days of training on zebra 08:48 chris its somewhere ive always wanted to visit 08:48 chris cool :) 08:48 nahuel chris, yes i am :)Ã 08:46 chris is nahuel in denmark? 08:18 chris heya slef 08:18 slef morning 07:59 paul_p hi chris 07:58 chris hi paul 07:32 chris <firstname>Chris</firstname><cardnumber>1</cardnumber><borrowernumber>1</borrowernumber><surname>Cormack</surname> at rest/borrowers/single_borrower.pl line 12. 07:31 chris it even works 07:30 chris http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=rest/borrowers/single_borrower.pl 07:13 Elwell wanted to get into the HPC kit (I was sysadmin for the 1st bluegene in europe) but they didn't have any spaces 07:12 chris christchurch is weird anyway 07:12 Elwell sysadmin 07:12 chris what was the job? 07:12 chris heh 07:12 Elwell (stoppy sods didn't even shortlist me. pah. 07:11 chris but there are 4 companies who provide that, there are tons of isps that do colo etc ... but they all have to buy transit from one of those 4 07:11 Elwell ah cool. yeah. I was a bit shocked when I applied for a job at U.canterbury and they said you paid for bandwith 07:11 chris its international transit that is the expensive bit 07:10 chris yeah tons 07:10 Elwell is there any competetion for colos / telcos? 07:10 Elwell ok, hosting bandwith then 07:10 chris depends where you live 07:09 Elwell How expensive is bandwidth in NZ? 07:08 chris in a week 07:08 chris yep, 3.47 terrabytes 07:01 nicomo is stuff.nz doing well? 07:00 nicomo morning/evening Chris 07:00 chris hi nicomo 06:50 Amit hi elwell 06:49 chris hey Elwell 05:19 chris night brendan 04:58 brendan long day here... 04:58 brendan good night #koha 03:26 mason i dont have a TV, so i will have to watch the best sehwag hits online 03:25 Amit y 03:24 mason ahhhh, chris has 'The Knowledge' 03:24 chris green wickets 03:24 chris thats why we usually won in the past 03:24 chris the pitches are too good for batsmen 03:24 mason heh 03:23 chris he is batting very well, but we are also making it very easy for him 03:21 Amit what about sehwag batting chris 03:20 chris hi amit 03:20 Amit hi chris 03:19 Amit si? 03:19 Amit this is first time india win series in NZ 03:19 Amit 3 NZ win 2 draw 03:19 Amit 5 times ODI series 03:18 mason how many times have india played in NZ? 03:18 Amit after 33 year 03:18 mason aah, i did not know 03:17 Amit this is the first series india win in NZ 03:17 mason sewag hit many 6's ? 03:17 Amit yes 03:17 mason he says 'indian team are too strong for us' 03:17 Amit he is the cracking 03:16 mason no, but i have heard a discussion from NZ cricket team captain 03:16 Amit have u seen sehwag batting 03:16 Amit yes 03:15 mason india are too good at cricket, for NZ 03:15 Amit in india 03:15 Amit yesterday is holi 03:15 Amit yes 03:15 mason i hope your birthday and holiday was nice :) 03:14 Amit india win 03:14 mason heya amit 03:14 Amit hi mason, si 03:14 Amit hi koha 00:45 ron ciao 00:44 slef ok. night all 00:41 ron slef: I'll fill you in via email 00:40 ron ok 00:39 slef ron: I've been a DD for a few years and a debian sysadmin for longer, if that's what you mean. 00:37 ron slef: do you have a background in managing debs in the longer term? 00:37 ron s/ath/that/ 00:37 ron not ath I've got any excuse, at 11:30am. heh 00:37 ron ;-) 00:37 ron slef: seems I am too 00:36 slef ron: hello. I'm asleep at the console. 00:25 ron slef: howdy 00:21 chris :) 00:21 chris i think it just needs that last 20% that takes 80% of the time 00:21 chris i built a package from vincents repo, and it mostly worked 00:21 chris *nod* 00:20 slef there's no webapp policy - there's an old discussion after I asked how to do it on debian-perl, but it'll be a bit off into the unknown 00:19 chris there are also a couple of dd's at my work .. so i think the sticking point is getting the packages built 00:19 chris there ya go, another option ron :) 00:17 slef I just have no-one willing to pay me to make it happen and a life full of paid work. 00:16 slef if a non-maintainer wants to make a koha.deb, I'm a debian developer so could sponsor the upload if vincent doesn't 00:16 Jo Si : are you about 23:42 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=openoffice_excel_delimited_text_to_koha_using_marcedit 23:42 chris ah no it was another of the Indian developers 23:40 ron http://oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php 23:40 ron found a video 23:39 chris i think krishnan did a good tutorial let me look 23:39 chris c 23:39 chris to convert csv to marc, then koha can import the mar 23:39 chris marcedit is your friend ron 23:38 chris it can import borrower data tho 23:38 ron bugga 23:38 chris nope 23:38 ron catalogue 23:38 chris what sort of data? 23:38 ron can Koha import data from a csv file? 23:37 chris if your webserver can run cgi's you can use it with koha 23:36 chris there is currently nothing apache specific with koha, just that the installer will make a config file for you that works with apache 23:36 imp what's about monkeyd? 23:35 chris or IIS if you are a nutjob :) 23:35 chris or nginx 23:35 chris yes 23:35 imp is it possible to use koha without apache? (something like lighttpd) 23:31 ron will do. thx 23:31 chris his email address will be in the koha archives somewhere 23:31 chris is his repo, drop him a line :) 23:31 chris http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/koha.git;a=summary 23:31 chris for the community 23:31 ron either way, we're quite willing to pay for his efforts - especially if he can get it into the deb repos 23:30 ron was he doing it for a client, or for the community? 23:29 bob good idea 23:29 bob chris: any idea how far along vincent is with the koha .deb package? 23:29 chris id recommend getting in touch with him and asking him what he needs to finish it off 23:29 pianohacker brb, remodeling 23:28 bob sweet 23:28 chris so it would actually make it into the distro 23:28 ron ahh, neat 23:28 chris if you put it in debian, it will end up in ubuntu, plus vincent danjeans is a debian developer 23:27 ron more generic = more uptake, more support, etc 23:27 ron actually, I'd prefer tahth it was more generic 23:27 chris plus ubuntu is debian, with non-free stuff added to 23:27 ron just one that works on 8.04 LTS 23:26 ron not necessarily 23:26 bob hi chris 23:26 chris i wouldnt 23:26 bob so you'd be perfering a ubuntu-centric one right? 23:25 bob cool 23:25 ron there you go 23:24 ron 09:32 < atz> vincent danjean was working on a debian package 23:24 ron hang on, chking log 23:24 ron yeah, someone said earlier that it has been looked into previously. 23:24 bob and was wondering how advanced along the idea was 23:24 ron bob: I wonder if it is necessary to make an Ubuntu-specific package, or if a Debian package would suffice 23:24 bob i think i read on lists that there was talk of having a all encompasing .deb package 23:23 ron I beat you to the punch, it seems. :) 23:23 ron howdy 23:23 bob hi 23:23 ron bob, @katipo 23:23 ron of course 23:23 ron oh 23:22 ron bob: what's your interest? 23:22 ron heh. this is what we were just now discussing 23:17 bob one where all the dependencies are included? 23:16 bob is there a koha.deb type package being developed? 23:16 bob hi all 22:44 ron hmm... phone again 22:42 ron we've installed a couple of servers and a bunch of desktops (all running linux) in a gov't facility. they want koha, but we need to be able to provide security updates etc. the rest of the environment is all managed by apt-get/dpkg/etc. My strong preference is to not break this discipline 22:41 ron if you guys would deb this (for ubuntu, especially) then yes you'd increase the uptake 22:40 ron ok, ubuntu installs debs, although I don't know if it is happy with *debian* debs 22:40 ron atz: sorry, was on the phone with strategicdata 22:39 atz or does it need something special to do that? 22:39 atz ubuntu can install debian debs right? 22:39 pianohacker Are there any other webapp packages out there for ubuntu whose installation package we could emulate? 22:34 atz ron: that's actually a great idea to make Koha *very readily* adoptable 22:34 pianohacker Track down lazy contributors and break a few fingers 22:33 pianohacker The open source world needs something like a code-debt collections agency 22:32 atz i'm sure it would make a lot of ppl happy though! 22:32 atz haven't heard from vincent in months though 22:32 ron bleh. fat fingers 22:32 ron er... atx: mate... 22:32 ron atxmate, I've got a government client who's willing to pay for it 22:32 atz vincent danjean was working on a debian package 22:31 ron oh... startegicdata.com.au. heh, I know those guys 22:31 atz ron: actually, that's the first i've heard of somebody willing to pay to make it happen 22:31 ron presumably this has been raised a number of times previously? 22:30 ron what I was hoping for is someone who would maintain debs for ubuntu 22:30 ron :) 22:30 ron yep 22:29 atz and the vendors tend to be pretty cool about not out-pitching each other here on channel 22:29 ron atz: uh, yeah. heh 22:29 atz ron: the place to start is http://koha.org/support/pay.html 22:27 ron Mornin'. Is there someone here with whom I can discuss commercial (ie; paid) support for Koha? 21:25 pianohacker 'allo chris. Do you know anything about marc_sub_struct.hidden ? 20:33 slef thanks owen 20:33 slef is for me now... strange 20:32 owen It's working for me slef 20:31 slef Is the irc log searching webpage working for anyone else? 20:30 slef very strange. Nothing in the error log either. 20:28 chris not me 20:28 slef (it's not in the man page) 20:27 slef Hi all. Anyone know what a zebrasrv exit code of 10 means? 20:10 owen Hi chris 20:08 chris morning 19:47 paul_p clone 2 goes to limbo... 19:45 paul_p2 (dunno the french term ;-) ) 19:44 owen Cloning is all well and good, but you still have to feed and clothe the clones. 19:44 paul_p2 (trying to have "CPL" working) 19:44 paul_p2 coming from some tests on my home connexion 19:44 paul_p2 hi gmcharlt 19:44 gmcharlt how's that cloning coming along, paul? 19:31 gmcharlt I believe it was intended to act as a (signed) bitmask 19:28 pianohacker Is there anyone around who is familiar with the logic behind marc_subfield_structure.hidden? I see some patterns in how it can be interpreted, but building it automatically from a given set of constraints (visibility in opac, staff and editor and collapsed when empty) seems like it would require a hashref 18:50 imp owen: ah, thx :) 18:50 owen What about this? http://search.cpan.org/dist/GD/ 18:48 imp (there is no gd 2.0.39 release on libgd.org) 18:48 imp so i have to use 2.1 from their cvs? 18:48 imp Warning: prerequisite GD 2.39 not found. We have 2.35. 16:37 owen Hi liz_nekls 14:25 gmcharlt hi pianohacker 14:24 pianohacker hola gmcharlt 13:41 owen Oh, right. Okay 13:40 gmcharlt i.e., the current holds queue process 13:40 kados owen: in a phrase: multi-location hold targeting ;-) ... the previous NPL script only targeted one item per title even if there were multiple holds on a given title 13:39 owen What were the Geauga holds improvements? 13:39 owen Yeah. I've only gotten sporadic reports, so I'll have to ask folks to be more vigilant. 13:35 gmcharlt owen: can you test to see if it makes a difference whether the holds are confirmed or not? 13:35 gmcharlt it did 13:33 kados g'morning all 13:33 owen Hi kados 13:32 owen "About Koha" reports 3.01.00.009 13:30 gmcharlt what's the exact version you're running? 13:30 owen I guess I'm concerned that the holds queue process is doing something weird here 13:29 owen One obvious explanation is that the first branch didn't confirm the hold, I suppose 13:28 owen When the destination branch receives it, they check it in and the hold message that pops up has another patron's info 13:28 owen At NPL we've been running into a problem since our switch to 3.0. One branch will check in an item and find a hold for a patron. They'll flag it with a hold slip and send it to its destination branch 13:27 gmcharlt sure 13:27 owen gmcharlt, do you have time for a question about holds? 13:14 gmcharlt yes 13:14 owen So hiding that column in the template would be a sensible thing to do 13:13 gmcharlt RSS for notifications hasn't been implemented yet 13:13 owen Is RSS notification also not working? 13:13 owen ...Looking at Bug 2434, http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2434 13:12 owen gmcharlt, maybe you know this 12:54 owen Is RSS notification also not working? 12:54 owen Hi #koha. Looking at Bug 2434, http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2434