Time  Nick        Message
11:38 dominos     Biblio::EndnoteStyle  	0.05  	CGI  	3.42  	CGI::Carp  	1.30_01  	CGI::Session  	4.40
11:38 dominos     Class::Accessor 	0.31 	Class::Factory::Util 	1.7 	Compress::Zlib 	2.008 	DBD::mysql 	4.005
11:38 dominos     DBI 	1.601 	Data::Dumper 	2.121_08 	Data::ICal 	0.13 	Date::Calc 	5.4
11:38 dominos     Date::Manip 	5.48 	Digest::MD5 	2.36 	Email::Date 	1.103 	File::Temp 	0.16
11:38 dominos     GD 	2.41 	GD::Barcode::UPCE 	1.1 	Getopt::Long 	2.35 	Getopt::Std 	1.05
11:38 dominos     HTML::Scrubber 	0.08 	HTML::Template::Pro 	0.72 	HTTP::Cookies 	1.39 	HTTP::Request::Common 	1.28
11:38 dominos     LWP::Simple 	1.41 	LWP::UserAgent 	2.036 	Lingua::Stem 	0.82 	List::MoreUtils 	0.21
11:38 dominos     List::Util 	1.18 	Locale::Language 	2.07 	MARC::Charset 	0.98 	MARC::Crosswalk::DublinCore 	0.02
11:38 dominos     MARC::File::XML 	0.88 	MARC::Record 	2.0.0 	MIME::Base64 	3.07 	MIME::Lite 	3.024
11:38 dominos     MIME::QuotedPrint 	3.07 	Mail::Sendmail 	0.79 	Net::LDAP 	0.34 	Net::LDAP::Filter 	0.15
11:38 dominos     Net::Z3950::ZOOM 	1.25 	PDF::API2 	2.014 	PDF::API2::Page 	2.001 	PDF::API2::Util 	2.000
11:38 dominos     PDF::Reuse 	0.33 	PDF::Reuse::Barcode 	0.05 	POE 	1.003 	POSIX 	1.09
11:38 dominos     SMS::Send 	0.05 	Schedule::At 	1.06 	Term::ANSIColor 	1.10 	Test 	1.25
11:38 dominos     Test::Harness 	2.56 	Test::More 	0.62 	Text::CSV 	1.10 	Text::CSV_XS 	0.60
11:38 dominos     Text::Iconv 	1.7 	Text::Wrap 	2005.082401 	Time::HiRes 	1.86 	Time::localtime 	1.02
11:38 dominos     Unicode::Normalize 	0.32 	XML::Dumper 	0.81 	XML::LibXML 	1.63 	XML::LibXSLT 	1.62
11:38 dominos     XML::RSS 	1.31 	XML::SAX::ParserFactory 	1.01 	XML::Simple 	2.18 	YAML::Syck 	1.00
11:38 dominos     sry for the delay
11:38 dominos     these are my perl module installed with koha
11:45 dominos     back
11:45 dominos     got dc
11:46 Amit        hi dominos
13:50 hdl_laptop  gmcharlt: you're right : I should have cherry pick
14:43 jwagner     Can someone check my understanding of MaxFines?  If it's set to $10, and fine increments are .20, and the last total was $9.80, does the MaxFines kick in with the next .20 increment (total $10), or the first one AFTER the $10 threshhold ($10.20)?  Thanks.
16:32 mc          re
16:55 pianohacker atz: around?
16:55 atz         ?
16:55 pianohacker atz: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=C4/Overdues.pm;h=06cf37ae659e96953c016dc14cc0bab7b8d2c0fe;hb=HEAD#l281
16:56 pianohacker Oh, wait a minute, she had something completely different in mind
16:57 atz         pianohacker: oh... looks like the error there is case-sensitivity
16:58 pianohacker Yeah, most likely
16:58 gmcharlt    IIRC, C4::Context->preference isn't case sensitve by default - it follows the default mysql collation
16:58 pianohacker Should the systempreferences be case sensitive? I know that by default, all the ones you need come with Koha, but it'd be nice to be tolerant of errors like this
16:59 atz         in my experience it does not seem to be flexible
16:59 atz         i'll whip up a 1-liner test.
17:00 gmcharlt     perl -e 'use C4::Context; print C4::Context->preference("verSION"), "\n";'
17:02 pianohacker And that works, cool.
17:08 atz         i guess it is cool... makes finding syspref strings trickier though.... would appreciate uniformity where possible
17:14 danny       yay ++ for the syndetics and amazon patches
17:16 gmcharlt    danny: once those are in, I'm going to play around with your stuff, and hoepfully work out a better unification of the cover images stuff
17:17 danny       ok, I saw your comment about the no javascript and it should be fairly easy I just haven't had a change to update it
17:21 danny       gmcharlt: did you think the solution I submitted is viable, or do you have another idea for how to better unify the cover images?
17:21 gmcharlt    I think your overall approach is fine
17:22 gmcharlt    there are other options - atz has some ideas from C4L, but your way is a step in the right direction
17:23 danny       ok thats cool, I'd be interested to hear those ideas too
17:24 hdl_laptop  gmcharlt: maybe it could be good if we could design a framework for Web Services.
17:25 hdl_laptop  URL
17:25 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop: framework for services provided by Koha, you mean?
17:25 hdl_laptop  Static parameters
17:25 gmcharlt    or webservices like enhanced content that are consumed by Koha?
17:25 hdl_laptop  Those ones.
17:25 atz         gmcharlt: eventually both
17:25 hdl_laptop  But both could be interesting.
17:26 gmcharlt    of course, just setting context
17:26 hdl_laptop  But consuming would enable us to have a common base.
17:26 atz         we already consume web services, but it's all in H:T:P....
17:26 atz         (and the back end)
17:27 hdl_laptop  And just have to add some SQL elements to allow ppl to activate/desactivate.
17:27 hdl_laptop  atz: yes...
17:27 hdl_laptop  But all hardcoded.
17:27 hdl_laptop  And whenever we have to add a new one, we have to copy/paste.
17:27 hdl_laptop  and adapt.
17:27 atz         it is ugly
17:27 atz         and not manageable
17:27 gmcharlt    for the specific case of enhanced content
17:28 gmcharlt    would be easy to design class to abstract the functionality
17:28 atz         that approach sounds like a good one
17:29 atz         gmcharlt: are you thinking of something like C4::External.pm ?
17:29 atz         or in a javascript class ?
17:29 gmcharlt    well, both
17:30 gmcharlt    a javscript class would be quicker
17:30 gmcharlt    but having something server side makes it easier to grab content for indexing
17:30 gmcharlt    if/when the library is permitted to do that
17:31 gmcharlt    and providing a way to support at least cover images sans JavaScript is necessary
17:32 atz         yeah, that forces us to do a bit of both js and server side
17:33 atz         but the templates would get a lot cleaner
17:33 gmcharlt    yes
17:37 hdl_laptop  gmcharlt: ++ for the serverside.
17:38 hdl_laptop  Would allow to cache results.
17:38 atz         hdl_laptop: good point
17:38 hdl_laptop  And maybe to make stats on results :
17:38 hdl_laptop  For GBS you have so and so results.
17:38 hdl_laptop  From Amazon so and so
17:39 atz         that would be reasonable... i don't think their terms of service would let us do an automated blast
17:39 hdl_laptop  And interGBS and Amazon there are so so biblios
17:39 atz         like going through the catalog and checking every record against their service... but we could keep stats on what was requested as part of normal user viewing
17:40 atz         and say how successful or unsuccessful it was
17:48 atz         gmcharlt: can you comment on update_items.pl cronjob?
17:49 atz         it looks dangerous... like  "FIXME: this should use Frameworks!!!!"
17:49 atz         hardcoded sudo
17:49 atz         hardcoded chdir
17:50 atz         $date_due = "0000-00-00" unless ($date_due);
17:50 gmcharlt    yikes
17:51 atz         ... CONSIDERED HARMFUL
17:52 atz         i think it's purpose is superceded by the the sync scripts
17:52 gmcharlt    and rebuild_zebra.pl
17:52 gmcharlt    as far as I'm concerned it can be removed
17:52 atz         cool, i'll do that now
18:22 atz         gmcharlt: also smsoverdues.pl looks bogus
18:23 atz         hardcoded CC address, and the script won't even compile
18:23 atz         "Can't locate C4/Circulation/Fines.pm"
19:29 gmcharlt    atz: agreed, smsoverdues.pl looks dead
20:03 chris       morning
20:04 SelfishMan  afternoon
20:05 danny-away  morning chris
20:05 brendan     morning chris danny-away, all others
20:06 chris       brendan: game was rained out :(
20:06 brendan     :( yeah - I read...
20:07 brendan     is there a re-do in wellington or was that your only chance
20:07 chris       there is a test match later
20:07 chris       (which is a 5 day match)
20:07 chris       but that was our only ODI with india
20:08 brendan     so there's t20 test? what esle.
20:08 chris       just those 3, t20, one dayers, and tests
20:08 chris       at international level
20:09 chris       there are 4 day matches in club/province level
20:10 chris       the test is april 3-7 so i get to see it
20:11 brendan     :)
20:13 atz         tons of git activity today...
20:14 chris       yeah sure is
20:25 chris       have a good weekend all
20:25 atz         ttyl chris
21:35 schuster    Galen - Plano ISD - Schuster - Just sent you an email regarding the modification to the Overdue listing.  ISBN 13 working very well thank you.
21:36 gmcharlt    schuster: cool, I'll check it out
21:38 schuster    Whenever you want to move the ISBN to production I am open to that.  My problem is the "preprocessor" doesn't strip characters off the incoming ISBN to verify the match, but that wasn't in our spec.
21:38 schuster    ie (Lib bdg) :
21:39 gmcharlt    right - I'm going to just toss that change in when I move it to production
21:39 schuster    OH YOU ARE as good as I have Heard!
21:40 gmcharlt    I also replied to your email - check the FilterBeforeOverdueReport syspref - may not have transferred correctly when database was synced
21:40 schuster    Oh yes I forgot I needed to change that as well..  My fault.
21:45 gmcharlt    and regarding when, Tuesday evening
03:21 [Xwire]     wow, i got it working on fedora core 4, only took 3 days...
08:07 chris       hmm
08:07 SelfishMan  eh?
08:11 chris       feels like a thunderstorm coming on