Time  Nick        Message
10:30 hdl_laptop  But it was not much useful at the moment I tried. Not so many duplicate books in my test set.
10:30 Amit        k
10:29 hdl_laptop  i gave it a try.
10:27 dominos     what's that
10:25 Amit        hi hdl have u try pazpar with koha
10:24 hdl_laptop  dominos: why ? Because it is not written in the correct way yaw tcerroc ????
10:14 dominos     but it's unreadble
10:14 dominos     it's the arabic alphabets
10:13 dominos     i'm having a problem reading the titles
10:10 Amit        k
10:10 dominos     just 1 moment
10:10 dominos     ok i will
10:09 Amit        see this dominos
10:09 Amit        http://59.176.17.111/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&idx=kw&idx=kw&limit=mc-itype%3AUR&sort_by=relevance&do=OK
10:08 Amit        y
10:07 dominos     in the actual Arabic language
10:07 dominos     i want 2 ask if its possible to add Arabic books to it
10:06 Amit        hi dominos
10:06 dominos     i'm new to koha
10:06 dominos     hi
10:00 Amit        hi
08:47 Amit        abandoned due to bad weather
08:47 Amit        i m very upset due to cricket match
08:47 Amit        very fine
08:42 hdl_laptop  good ho are you ?
08:39 Amit        hdl
08:39 Amit        hw r u
08:38 hdl_laptop  hi Amit
08:34 Amit        hi hdl
08:15 Amit        good night
08:15 brendan     goodnight all / #koha
08:15 Amit        i think u enjoy cricket so much
08:15 brendan     I'm off to bed.... goodnight
08:15 Amit        k
08:14 brendan     I couldn't get to watch it...  followed along online
08:14 Amit        but out by wrong decision by umpire
08:14 Amit        he made 54 runs
08:14 Amit        today
08:14 Amit        have u seen sehwag batting
08:14 brendan     yes
08:14 Amit        let see
08:14 Amit        8th march
08:14 Amit        next match
08:14 Amit        i m sure
08:13 Amit        today match is abandoned
08:13 brendan     heya Amit
08:13 Amit        hi brendan
08:11 Amit        what is the answer
08:11 Amit        si ?
08:10 Amit        wait for sunday for another match
08:08 Amit        y
08:08 Amit        today sachin batting is also well
08:07 Amit        not sure i think contribute to their career
08:07 si          if the game is abandoned do the scores of the players contribute to their career stats?
08:07 Amit        yes
08:06 si          I don't think it will exist
08:06 Amit        so today match is draw?
08:06 si          christchurch gets about half the annual rainfall of wellington
08:05 Amit        but wrong decision by umpire
08:05 Amit        today sehwag batting is good
08:05 Amit        hi mc
08:05 Amit        hmm
08:04 si          that's more likely to get better weather
08:04 Amit        ok
08:04 si          Christchurch
08:04 mc          hello world
08:04 Amit        3rd odi
08:04 Amit        on 8th march
08:04 Amit        yes
08:04 Amit        u tell
08:04 si          on Sunday?
08:04 Amit        i don't know
08:03 si          where is it?
08:03 Amit        k
08:03 Amit        match
08:03 si          it's raining pretty hard here, and we're ~2km from the stadium
08:03 Amit        let see on sunday
08:03 si          I imagine so
08:02 Amit        cricket match is washed out
08:02 si          hello amit
08:02 si          gack
08:02 si          hwkki /anit
07:58 Amit        hi si
07:34 si          I'm guessing there's no game at the caketin
07:34 si          it's really pretty damp outside
06:40 brendan     too much rain Amit
03:27 brendan     just a little bit.
03:25 Amit        hi brendan
03:18 Amit        r u watching cricket match
03:18 Amit        hi brendan
03:16 Amit        hi chris
22:36 Snell       outch
22:35 atz         if you think this is bad, try building unicode PDF's using CPAN modules
22:30 Snell       they sould have imposed an encoding standard with these, why utf-8 when we could go directly to utf-16, I bet our asian friends would love that.
22:27 Snell       diacritics problems have been driving me insane for the past 3 days
22:26 atz         yeah, that is the regrettable part... all that built around MARC21 and z39 that totally fail to provide reliable utf8
22:25 Snell       and the nice z39.50 standard
22:25 atz         it is remarkable how many layers there are that need to be utf8... browser, OS, keyboard, webserver, database, table, session...
22:23 Snell       maybe it's a web server configuration detail
22:22 Snell       and most of the users will have a windows workstation to use the system
22:21 Snell       koha runs on a linux server, i have a windows workstation
22:21 atz         you may be able to set your keyboard to unicode instead of US ascii or whatever
22:21 Snell       and if i paste the site text in notepad for example, i get they funny square that tells me there is a encoding trick
22:21 atz         what OS?
22:20 Snell       well, if i type it in, it does not work, if i copy paste it from the site, it works...
22:19 atz         *it probably works
22:19 atz         for each common diacritic that is "not working" in search, if you used the composed form of the same character is probably works
22:19 atz         Snell: the issues are more w/ normalization than w/ diacritics themselves
22:01 SelfishMan  diacritics are fun
21:56 Snell       anyone got issues using the opac search with accentuated characters?
21:16 chris       heh
21:15 gmcharlt    heh - should do capes as conference schwag
21:14 chris       superlibrarians can do everything :)
21:10 owen        I wasn't expecting that.
21:10 owen        My test installation works okay. Part of my confusion comes from the fact that it seems a superlibrarian can edit and delete public shelves from the OPAC
21:09 owen        I can't figure out when the fix came, but it must have been recently enough that NPL's live install doesn't have the fix
21:09 owen        Okay, so I guess I'm wrong about editing and deleting public shelves...
20:07 chris       yep 5 hours exactly
20:07 chris       yeah, not raining yet.. heres hoping it just stays cloudy
20:07 brendan     it should start in about 5 hours - if the rain clears?
20:06 brendan     bummer --
20:06 chris       brendan: if you are watching it looks like it might rain today :(
20:03 chris       musta got broken again
20:03 chris       owen: i was sure that was fixed?
20:03 chris       [Xwire]: http://krishnanm.com/khh/koha3fedora9  might be some help
20:03 owen        ...and logged-in users can edit and delete shelves which are not their own.
20:02 SelfishMan  ha!
20:02 chris       awesome!!
20:02 owen        Great...looks like non-logged-in users can edit and delete public shelves
20:02 chris       buenos dias
19:29 [Xwire]     i found a guide for installing version koha 2.2 on fedora core 4, would it be much different for koha 3
19:19 owen        Yeah, I'm just trying to understand what's going on. My Perl skills aren't good enough to get the whole picture.
19:18 gmcharlt    is that what you're after?
19:18 gmcharlt    storing item info for later use around line 265
19:15 owen        $itemhash{$itm->{'itemnumber'}}=$itm;
19:15 owen        Anyone around for a Perl question? What is this doing at line 137 of opac-reserve.pl?
18:56 atz         [Xwire]: it's possible
18:52 [Xwire]     koha version 3 that is
18:52 [Xwire]     ?
18:52 [Xwire]     chance*
18:52 [Xwire]     is there any chanced that i'd be able to install on fedora core 4
16:42 hdl_laptop1 np
16:42 Snell       hdl_laptop1: thanks a lot, it works now!
16:40 jwagner     Oh, well.  One out of two ain't bad -- thanks!
16:39 owen        sorry jwagner, I don't know a thing about record matching rules!
16:39 jwagner     Owen, since you're here :-) I posted an earlier question about record matching rules, but it got lost in another conversation. I also sent a message to the listserv. Gist is, what do I use for index names?  Do I need to track down the Zebra index names?  I want to set up some additional rules beyond ISBN & ISSN.
16:37 jwagner     Not an issue on this particular server -- we'll keep it in mind for others.  Thanks much.
16:37 owen        I think in computing terms the only issue of running it more frequently is an increased load on the Koha server...which may or may not be an issue.
16:36 jwagner     Thanks, Owen.  The staff are complaining that a once-per-hour run isn't frequent enough.  I just wanted to make sure there wouldn't be any problems on the system end with increasing it.  We'll have to point out the need to complete pulling in the time period.
16:36 owen        I might find that at 10:15AM someone in another branch got a revised pull list with something that was on my list
16:35 owen        At 10:30AM I pick it up again and start pulling stuff
16:35 owen        Say I print out the list at 10AM, but I don't finish pulling everything
16:34 owen        jwagner: the only possible glitches are on the staff side of things
16:30 jwagner     Can someone answer a question on the build_holds_queue.pl cron?  The manual suggests running it every 1-4 hours.  Are there any implications to running it more frequently, like every 10-15 minutes?
16:27 hdl_laptop1 ASCII avec ANSEL(ANSI Z39.47) et MARC 21 (anciennement USMARC et CAN/MARC) ASCII avec ANSEL(ANSI Z39.47) et MARC 21 (anciennement USMARC et CAN/MARC)
16:26 hdl_laptop1 So you should have better results with marc-8
16:26 hdl_laptop1 Snell: your biblio records are not encoded in ISO-8859-1 But in MARC-8 ANSEL
16:25 hdl_laptop1 Snell: i have checked your link
15:34 hdl_laptop1 We planned to work on that.
15:33 hdl_laptop1 We'll update them.
15:33 hdl_laptop1 thx.
15:33 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop1: 3007
15:31 gmcharlt    so (with the exception of three templates) that I'm about to send you a bug for, HEAD is now using English for all of the unimarc value_builder templates
15:31 hdl_laptop1 Thanks.
15:31 gmcharlt    I've cherry-picked it into HEAD
15:31 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop1: there was a 3.0.x patch translating the UNIMARC tempaltes that was pushed to 3.0.x but never submitted for HEAD
15:30 hdl_laptop1 yes gmcharlt
15:15 gmcharlt    ok, I can wait
15:15 paul_p2     gmcharlt: we (hdl, nicomo & me) are skyping (long conference)
15:13 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop1: about?
15:06 mc          thx
15:03 mahesh_c    my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result
15:03 Snell       Ill go see if I can figure out something in the perl code
15:02 Snell       humm, i gess ill have to find a way to add 8859, nothing on that subject on the web...
15:01 hdl_laptop1 won't forget
14:59 mc          hdl_laptop1 hey ... don't forget to send me the snapshot of atz and me ;)
14:58 hdl_laptop1 Snell: not at all
14:57 Snell       Does the language configured during installation influences the encoding schemes available for z39.50 servers once koha is installed?
14:54 hdl_laptop1 hi atz It was a pleasure to see you.
14:54 hdl_laptop1 weird.
14:53 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: but yaz client is working perfectly
14:52 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result
14:52 mahesh_c    my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result
14:51 mahesh_c    atz: thanks for showing it
14:51 hdl_laptop1 What was the problem ?
14:51 hdl_laptop1 mahesh_c: good...
14:51 mahesh_c    atz: i could figure it out..
14:51 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: i could figure it out..
14:50 atz         just z3950.loc.gov
14:50 atz         mahesh_c: shouldn't be "target:" in the address
14:49 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: i am getting a " Z>
14:48 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: its working i got the message Connecting...OK.
14:46 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: if i put that in browser, it works.
14:44 hdl_laptop1 ...then it might be that that causes the problem
14:44 hdl_laptop1 if you cannot resolve target z3950.loc.gov
14:43 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: there must be a port number also...right?
14:43 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: Could not resolve address target:z3950.loc.gov
14:41 hdl_laptop1 z3950.loc....
14:40 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: for loc, what should i use for target?
14:39 hdl_laptop1 yaz-client target:port/database
14:39 Snell       laptop1 as a better solution for you anyways =0p
14:38 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: my x server crashed
14:38 hdl_laptop1 mahesh_c:  you can also use Command line.
14:38 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: i am sorry.
14:38 hdl_laptop1 mahesh_c: sorry
14:38 Snell       i just noticed i answered mahesh after he disconnected
14:38 hdl_laptop1 Snell: you can also use Command line.
14:37 Snell       if you make a successeful request with this software, i would confirm that your firewall isin't an issue, oh it's a win32
14:35 Snell       i found a free software named "mercury z39.50 client" loc is already configured
14:34 Snell       maesh_c: you can try with another z39.50 client
14:33 Snell       i'm also having the same issues with LOC, the garbaged characters changes, but the problem is basically the same
14:33 Snell       all the server info can be found there, in french: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/amicus/006002-400-f.html
14:32 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: how can i check whether it is the firewall causing the problem?
14:32 Snell       marc21/usmarc
14:32 hdl_laptop1 Would you send me you Z3950 target profile ?
14:32 Snell       yep
14:31 hdl_laptop1 mmmm... are you MARC21 ?
14:31 mahesh_c    snell: i am still getting the message nothing found. try another search
14:31 Snell       and with the other one as well
14:31 Snell       hdl_laptop1: i'm still having "encoding issues" with iso 6937
14:31 hdl_laptop1 I have just searched for Jquery and it workd.
14:31 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: irc was also not working for me. it started working after the admin changed my settings.
14:29 mahesh_c    hdl_laptop1: i "was" behind a firewall. the system admin changed it for me.
14:29 Snell       try a search with this isbn, i know they have it: 2906553050
14:29 mahesh_c    snell: this is the exact message "Nothing found. Try another search."
14:29 hdl_laptop1 mahesh_c: can be because you are behind a fw you have to open ports so that LoC can be contacted.
14:28 Snell       give me a few minutes, ill try a few things on my side
14:27 mahesh_c    snell: i am also using koha 3
14:27 mahesh_c    snell: it shows no results found try another search
14:27 Snell       i'm working with koha 3.0.1, i'm not familiar with previous releases
14:26 Snell       well, what kind of result page does it gives you?
14:24 mahesh_c    snell: why does that happen? i am searching to loc
14:24 Snell       with my marc/usmarc installation, any unimarc record record looks blank
14:24 Snell       mahesh: does your conexion with the server works? depending on your installation choice, koha supports marc21/usmarc or unimarc records
14:22 mahesh_c    hdl_lptop1:the z3950 search in add MARC record is not returning any result can you help me?
14:22 jwagner     Is someone around who knows record matching rules?  I have some questions....
14:20 Snell       thanks
14:20 Snell       ok, ill give it a try
14:20 hdl_laptop1 And not what it publicizes.
14:19 hdl_laptop1 it is indeed only 8859-1
14:19 hdl_laptop1 Snell: try with 6937 : should do that Job.
14:18 Snell       library and archives canada desen't as far as i can tell
14:17 hdl_laptop1 Snell: quite often ISO5426 or 6937 are used by latin libraries.
14:15 Snell       i have the choice between iso 5426, iso 6937 utf8 ans marc 8
14:15 mahesh_c    hdl_lptop1:the z3950 search in add MARC record is not returning any result
14:14 hdl_laptop1 nice to meet you.
14:14 Snell       i was supprised not to find it
14:13 mahesh_c    hdl_lptop1:sure
14:13 Snell       oh, i'm french canadian
14:13 hdl_laptop1 I am french.
14:13 hdl_laptop1 mmmm... it would be much surprising it would not be supported.
14:12 Snell       iso 8859-1
14:12 hdl_laptop1 mahesh_c: maybe i can help
14:12 hdl_laptop1 Snell: which encoding would you like to find ?
14:09 Snell       i would like to add more choices there
14:09 Snell       koha gives me 4 different encodind shemes to select when i config a new z39.50 server
14:08 Snell       that's the problem, it dosent
14:08 owen        One response I've heard for that problem is to check whether the encoding setting for that server in Koha matches what the server is actually returning
14:06 Snell       my results have grabage caracter instead of the supposed accentuated ones
14:05 Snell       it seems i need some support for aditional encoding
14:04 owen        What problems are you having Snell?
14:03 Snell       I'm new to koha, and I'm also experiencing some issues with the whole z3950 search
14:03 owen        mahesh_c: Are you sure you're trying to contact a working z3950 server?
14:02 mahesh_c    owen: mm...me in india
14:01 owen        Sorry mahesh_c, looks like no one is awake who might be able to help you
13:58 mahesh_c    the z3950 search in add MARC record is not returning any result
13:58 mahesh_c    i am using debian lenny with koha 3
13:58 mahesh_c    anyone can help with z3950 search?
13:58 mahesh_c    anyone can help with z3950 search?
13:51 mahesh_c    the z3950 search in add MARC record is not returning any result
13:51 mahesh_c    i am using debian lenny with koha 3
13:50 mahesh_c    anyone can help with z3950 search?
12:14 kernel_2    /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwrap...this is the error i get by running cpam ZOOM
12:12 Amit        cpan ZOOM
12:12 Amit        u install zebra
12:12 kernel_2    Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC.and so on
12:12 kernel_2    i just want to get started running koha..if i browse opac or the admin interface, it gives me this error...
12:11 Amit        u want to run zebra
12:11 kernel_2    thanks amit...yum install yaz.i386 libyaz-devel.i386 yaz.i386...these are already installed....
12:09 Amit        yum install yaz-devel
12:09 Amit        and yum install yaz-doc
12:09 Amit        u can install yum install yaz kernel_2
12:08 kernel_2    i am using fedora 10....can i use yum to install ZOOM?
12:07 kernel_2    thanks for the info....but i am getting one more similar error.../usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwrap
11:55 Amit        hi mason
11:50 mason       kernel_2: fyi...
11:50 mason       http://linux.die.net/man/3/libexslt
11:49 mason       http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=462344
11:49 mason       sudo apt-get install libxslt1-dev  ?
11:45 kernel_2    i am getting this line in compilation.../usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lexslt
11:43 hdl_laptop1 force install
11:42 kernel_2    i am getting repeated "Make had some problems, won't test.."
11:41 kernel_2    Hello...i have a problem with ZOOM installation...