Time  Nick       Message
10:41 Amit       hi laurencel
10:32 laurenc1   nick /laurence
07:12 SelfishMan morning
06:50 nicomo     good morning #koha
05:20 SelfishMan Anyone have a quick link to a script that converts Follett 852 fields to Koha 952?
03:25 Amit       hi all
03:25 Amit       hi mason good morning
20:46 gmcharlt   I've gone ahead and pushed it, as it works out to no visible change in a default OPAC
20:38 owen       Not off the top of my head, but I'll figure out a test case and post more info. It's a patch that I've had "lying around" for a while so I need to refresh my memory.
20:36 gmcharlt   owen: do know of a way to quickly reproduce the problem fixed in your patch for 2989?
20:19 gmcharlt   just the puns
20:19 gmcharlt   it's not you I'm worried about :)
20:19 lizrea     ^ ^
20:19 lizrea     *I* won't come after you
20:19 lizrea     don't worry chumley
20:18 lizrea     I think we'll all be listening very carefully
20:18 owen       lizrea: I'll be very interested to hear how it goes
20:17 lizrea     wahoo!
20:17 jdavidb    OK.  I'll update the ticket, which will send you email! :)
20:16 lizrea     jdavidb: just let me know when you're ready for me to dink with the templates (when the code has been installed)
20:16 owen       Ah, good idea.
20:16 gmcharlt   somewhere being bugzilla, e.g.
20:15 gmcharlt   owen: yes, or put it up somewhere and send the URL
20:15 owen       gmcharlt: if git send-email doesn't work because your patch has long lines, is the fallback to email it to patches as an attachment?
20:12 lizrea     that would give us a week before the next scheduled updates to fiddle with it
20:12 lizrea     yea, that would be perfect!
20:09 owen       Thank you! I need to carve that into my monitor.
20:09 jdavidb    lizrea:  It's not far from the top of my heap, actually;  with a little luck, and no crises, I should be able to get to it tomorrow or this weekend.   Would that do?
20:09 gmcharlt   owen: git rebase --interactive
20:08 owen       What's the git command to merge two commits together? I can never remember...
20:07 lizrea     WOO!
20:07 jdavidb    :D  And it's even assigned to me.
20:06 lizrea     yes, actually, that's exactly it
20:05 lizrea     I don't think so for this *specifically*
20:05 lizrea     lemme look (hehe!)
20:03 jdavidb    2444?
20:03 jdavidb    Hm....I imagine we could work on that, liz.  Do you have a SC ticket open on that?  I seem to remember...
20:01 lizrea     I think I"m ok with it going away after our next upgrade (unless it's perfect and what we want and bla bla bla)
20:01 lizrea     would that be something we could work together to deal with?
20:00 lizrea     http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1080
20:00 lizrea     I'd like to try it out on our test server, I know I"d have to sync the templates but I don't have access to the scripts (that I know of)
20:00 jdavidb    Can try.
20:00 lizrea     there's a patch on bugzilla for adding sound cues to circulation
19:59 lizrea     jdavidb maybe you can answer this question for me
19:59 lizrea     mmm cornbread
19:58 jdavidb    They're like really good cornbread--it's *supposed* to suck all the moisture out of your body..
19:58 lizrea     I hear rum is good for teething
19:58 lizrea     hehehe
19:58 jdavidb    Soaked in chocolate...or rum...or even water...something to put some moisture back into them.
19:58 lizrea     I know that the reason they come 2 in a package is because they had to leave one for the mom
19:58 lizrea     oh I know... but they're GOOD!
19:57 lizrea     ...I really like the word nibble
19:57 jdavidb    It's a kiddie version of the styrofoam rice-cakes!   EEEEEeeeee!
19:57 lizrea     I have half nibbled mum mum's all over my house
19:57 lizrea     my kid eats these rice things called baby mum mums
19:56 lizrea     ^ ^
19:56 jdavidb    In my case, it was the land of gooey chocolate, and stray Cheerios.
19:56 lizrea     har har
19:56 lizrea     the land of milk and honey, so they say
19:56 lizrea     quite so
19:56 owen       ...which is usually stickier.
19:55 lizrea     I think it's also bordered by "toddler at the keyboard"
19:55 lizrea     hehe gmcharlt
19:55 lizrea     ... that is ... beyond words
19:54 jdavidb    Seattle is beautiful...Ive been there a few times.  *gorgeous*.
19:54 gmcharlt   a close trading partner of the land of the "kitties on the keyboard"
19:54 lizrea     the land of "fingers on the wrong keys"
19:53 owen       I was thinking maybe Middle Earth
19:53 lizrea     LOL <3
19:53 gmcharlt   some place is Wales, I take it? ;)
19:53 lizrea     Seattle!!
19:53 lizrea     LOL
19:53 lizrea     er
19:53 lizrea     Drsyylr!!!
19:53 gmcharlt   are you going anywhere?
19:53 gmcharlt   have fun
19:48 lizrea     k cool. I always hate it when people bother me when I'm away, so I'll refrain from harassing him. :)
19:35 gmcharlt   lizrea: atz is at a conference
19:29 rhcl       I think all the usual day people (except Owen) have been on vacation the past week or so.
19:24 lizrea     or conferencing or somesuch
19:24 lizrea     LL peps, is atz on vacation?
14:10 Elwell     Error: translate: Error with parser 'SQL::Translator::Parser::MySQL':  no results at /usr/bin/sqlt-diagram line 137.
14:10 Elwell                            delimiter, or empty statement
14:10 Elwell                            set, or drop, or create, or alter, or insert, or
14:10 Elwell         ERROR (line 2164): Invalid statement: Was expecting comment, or use, or
14:09 Elwell     sqlt-diagram -d MySQL -o=test.png  SVN_Sources/koha/installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql --color
14:09 Elwell     it's memorable....
13:49 Elwell     paul_p: consider this a poke (it 404's)
13:49 Elwell     heh from http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:dbschema >> It will be updated when needed (Paul will take care of the update. If he don’t, bug him)
13:48 jwagner    I'd really love a Koha 3.x table structure document myself
13:48 jwagner    The only one I've found online is from the Koha 2.2 manual site -- appendix A at http://www.kohadocs.org/usersguide/apa.html
13:46 Elwell     is there a nice visual version of the DB schema anywhere to save me generating one from kohastructure.sql?
13:39 jwagner    That's what I was thinking -- have one field in the table for status (available, on hold, lost, missing, checked out, whatever), and then have other actions check that status field.
13:39 nicomo     I'd love to be able to add new statuses, and then decide what to do with them : appear on opac searches, can be loaned, renewals, etc
13:38 owen       A statuses overhaul would be a very valuable contribution to the Koha project :)
13:38 nicomo     owen & jwagner both ++
13:37 jwagner    We've been wondering about statuses anyway.  Some, like lost, seem to be assigned their own field in the table, while others are kind of floating off on their own.  Maybe the way Koha handles statuses could use an overhaul....
13:37 owen       Now you can block holds on specific item types, why not go one step further and include statuses as an option there?
13:36 owen       Rather than a system pref, I suppose a better way to manage it would be to add the various statuses to the holds policy interface
13:33 jwagner    I canna read the minds of library directors :-)
13:32 owen       That leads to the question, what point is there in having lost/missing results show up at all if you can't borrow them and you can't put a hold on them?
13:32 jwagner    Maybe another syspref should be created?  Like allow/block holds on lost/missing items?
13:31 owen       What if I want to place a hold on a lost item because I hope it turns up?
13:31 owen       As with a lot of things, I think it comes down to the particular library
13:25 jwagner    Yes, I know the syspref is there, but I was wondering more about the rules in place.  It seems like logically the system SHOULDN'T allow holds on items with certain statuses, like lost or missing.  There's a syspref to allow/block holds on available items, so some of the same logic is in place for that.
13:17 owen       "hidelostitems:	 show or hide "lost" items in OPAC."
13:16 owen       jwagner: You can hide lost/missing items in the OPAC with a system pref. Would that be a satisfactory answer?
12:36 jwagner    Hope someone is listening and can answer a question.  Should the system allow patrons to place holds on items that have a status of missing or lost?  It seems to allow it, but I would think that holds on those types of things should be blocked.