Time Nick Message 13:50 acmoore atz: you around yet? 13:56 hdl hi acmoore 13:58 hdl gmcharlt: some questions for you. 13:59 gmcharlt hdl: shootr 13:59 paul_p hi acmoore & gmcharlt 13:59 hdl 2 biblibrarians are coming for Code4Lib 13:59 gmcharlt hi paul_p 14:00 hdl arrival forecast on Friday 14:00 hdl Week end Koha Hackfest would still be possible for you or not ? 14:00 hdl "you"== LibLimers ? 14:01 gmcharlt hdl: for some of us 14:02 hdl If we are some devs and planners, it will be all right. 14:02 gmcharlt ok, I'll see who I can rustle up 14:02 hdl Is there still a hackfest after Koha Con ? If yes who is planned to attend that. 14:02 acmoore morning, guys. 14:03 gmcharlt I assume that the KohaCon hackfest is still on 14:04 hdl acmoor about your patch Bug 2505: turning on "warnings" in catalogue/detail.pl 14:04 hdl This line is puzzling me : 14:04 hdl + $template->param( "$_" => defined $dat->{$_} ? $dat->{$_} : '' ); 14:05 hdl Can't we pass $dat directly and do a map 14:06 hdl in order to set undefined values to "" ? 14:06 hdl $template->param($dat) 14:06 hdl should then be enough. 14:08 hdl acmoore : sorry to bother you with such a little detail. 14:08 hdl gmcharlt: have you read ILS-DI ? 14:08 hdl Do you have short term plans on that ? 14:09 gmcharlt hdl: yes - short term plans are to noodle around with it 14:09 gmcharlt and in particular, get the OAI-PMH side of it running 14:09 hdl I can bring some pepper and basilic (pistou) for you :P 14:09 gmcharlt :) 14:12 acmoore hdl: perhaps that would work. I was trying to change as little as possible to avoid unexpected bugs. I think your proposal would require changing the template, right? 14:12 acmoore hdl: I'd be OK with that change. 14:12 hdl No. 14:13 acmoore aah. I see what you mean. yeah, I think that's better. 14:13 hdl template->param(%hash) is ok 14:13 acmoore I thought you were saying $template->param( dat => $dat ); which is a big change. 14:14 acmoore your recommendation is probably reasonale. 16:29 frederic hello 16:41 hdl gmcharlt: problem with branch 3.0.x 16:41 gmcharlt hdl: ? 16:41 hdl It seems not to be synched with gitosis. 16:42 hdl nahuel synched on git.koha.org 16:42 hdl But he has old version of code. 16:43 hdl And still, i can see on git web that all the commits I pushed were taken into account. 16:43 hdl Is there some trick ? 16:43 gmcharlt shouldn't be 16:47 hdl what does git branch --track mybranch do in git config files ? 16:53 gmcharlt hdl: produces this in .git/config 16:53 gmcharlt [branch "mmc"] 16:53 gmcharlt remote = origin 16:53 gmcharlt merge = refs/heads/mmc 17:06 acmoore atz: you around? 17:06 atz ? 17:07 acmoore I took a look at your patch to reogranize syspref tabs. Good one. 17:07 atz yeah, that was from friday last week. 17:07 acmoore the "tabs" sub seems to have a caching ability in it. Is that for speed, or so that the applocation can change tabs around and have that change cached, or something? 17:08 atz yeah, i'm not sure if the use case will ever really come up (asking for tabs more than once) 17:08 atz but i didn't want to have to rebuild the gigantor hash 17:08 acmoore yeah. I guess that may be faster. OK. 17:08 atz so it is more insurance than anything 17:09 acmoore this is a new C4::Sysprefs module. Is that how you picture implementing it? 17:09 atz something like that 17:09 atz i'm not too attached to that namespace though 17:09 acmoore C4::Context has some things that seem sysprefish. Do you expect to put accessor and mutators for sysprefs in this package? 17:09 acmoore like C4::Context::preference 17:09 atz yeah, i think there is comment in the perldoc 17:10 acmoore oh, you expected me to read the docs. 17:10 acmoore there's your problem! 17:10 atz really this is not related to syspref *operation* at all 17:10 atz this is just a logical grouping for display 17:11 acmoore so, it looks like you don't intend for C4::Context::preference to be moved into this new package, then, right? 17:11 atz correct 17:12 acmoore that sounds reasonable. I think it's a great idea, but I wonder if we can change the name of the package. nitpicking, I know. 17:12 acmoore I don't have a better suggestion, though, I guess. 17:12 atz maybe I should have made it C4::Output::SysPrefTabs or something 17:12 acmoore sure. 17:12 acmoore I'm glad to see the upside-down arrangement replaced at some point. The current stuff is mind-bending. 17:14 atz hey, thx for turning out that intranetuserjs fix in updatedatabase 17:15 acmoore yup. I figured if I had to fix it manually one more time, I might as well do it for good. Is that how you pictured the fix? 17:16 gmcharlt paul_p: receive 17:16 paul_p thx 17:16 gmcharlt "I before E, except after C" 17:16 atz acmoore: pretty much exactly 17:17 acmoore atz: you don't think that anyone actually wants that particular value in their syspref, do you? I guess that the person who got it in there in the first place might, but I can't really track that down from git. 17:17 atz no, even the person who made it in the first place didn't finish it 17:17 atz as you can tell by the empty functions 17:17 atz so their *finished* version would not be hit by this update 17:18 acmoore good point. 17:19 acmoore Then, the other thing I don't really get is how to select database version numbers. if I got in line at http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:dbrevs:start then I'd probably still be there for months. 17:20 acmoore I thought you were supposed to pick a number on that page right before you submit your patch, but some have been there since late summer. 17:20 acmoore so, I'm pretty sure I just took someone's spot in line. Then, do I put that on that page and push everyone else down? Maybe I just do that after it's been accepted. 17:21 gmcharlt acmoore: I'll take care of it when I push 17:21 gmcharlt your 009 does take somebody else's place 17:21 gmcharlt but I'll revise patch when I am ready to push it 17:21 acmoore gmcharlt: thanks. I know you will, but that's just because we don't have a better system, and I hate putting that on your plate. 17:22 gmcharlt acmoore: no worries - it's a small part of what I do with patch submissions anyway 17:22 acmoore the unsolvable problem. 19:08 ryan so are zebra index names case insensitive ? 19:09 ryan I just noticed 19:09 ryan ryansmac:zebradb rch$ grep Local-number zebra-biblios.cfg 19:09 ryan recordId: (bib1,Local-number) 19:09 ryan and 19:09 ryan ryansmac:zebradb rch$ grep -i Local-number marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs 19:09 ryan melm 999$c Local-Number:n,Local-Number:w,Local-Number:s 20:11 chris morning 20:14 ryan hi chris 20:15 chris id expect them to be case sensitive, but i dont know 20:47 frederic Case-insensitive 21:10 hdl frederic: ???? 21:11 hdl From my experience, record.abs is MUCH case sensitive. 21:11 hdl If you have a bib1 With a case and use same word with a different case, then BOOM. 21:12 hdl Local-Number and Local-number is different when it comes to recordID 21:12 hdl I had a major problem once because of a different case. 21:13 hdl ryan : I think it is case sensitive. 21:13 hdl Or maybe frederic can tell us some magic command to set it case-insensitive. 21:14 frederic hdl: I just do a test with yaz-client before responding. My test may be wrong, I conceide... I've done a scan on 'Subject' and then on 'subject', and get same result. 21:14 hdl maybe from yaz-client. 21:15 frederic scan @attr 1=subject a 21:15 frederic scan @attr 1=Subject a 21:15 hdl But as far as zebra configuration, record.abs, and bib1 seem case sensitive. 21:17 ryan well, i think i should consider this a bug; indexdata could 'fix' the case-insensitivity at any time, and break searching. 21:17 hdl frederic : you're right from yaz-client, case insensitive. 21:17 hdl ryan ++ you're a wise man .... 21:18 hdl Maybe we could ask zebralist for that. 21:18 hdl Maybe also z3950 protocol IS case insensitive. 21:19 ryan would be good to have a definitive answer... indexdata isn't always best known for documentation :) 21:20 chris heh 21:21 frederic If Zebra config is case sensitive and search is not, it means that searches are tried with all possible lower-upper case combinations?... 21:21 frederic for index names 21:27 hdl ryan : koha-zebra and zebralists are there for that purpose. Moreover LL paid for support, so i guess you could use that 05:12 Lib hi