Time Nick Message 12:16 SelfishMan any tips for getting the shelf browser working? 12:38 SelfishMan Ignore that, I figured it out. Now to get 'Editions' working 16:29 myconid What platform is best suited for Koha installation? 17:01 gmcharlt myconid: I recommend Debian 17:05 myconid I seem to be having perl issues w/ Debian. 17:05 myconid Whilist trying to install Koha 3 20:34 dressedinvalue Hello 20:34 chris hi 20:34 myconid hai 20:34 dressedinvalue This is the first time I've ever used IRC, and I grew up around computers and the internet! ha 20:35 dressedinvalue haha 20:35 dressedinvalue Well, I was hoping I might find someone to help me; to guide me in the right direction 20:36 dressedinvalue I want to install Koha on a remote VPS, but I am not too handy with the terminal, and I need to install Zebra 20:36 myconid You probably need to install quite a few things. 20:36 dressedinvalue Per the req's, I have everything except Zebra (prior to installing the actual Koha software) 20:37 chris what distro is your vps? 20:37 dressedinvalue I have a MediaTemple Dedicated Virtual server 20:37 dressedinvalue CentOS 20:37 chris ahh so rpm based 20:37 chris you might be able to find an rpm on the indexdata site 20:37 chris ill just have a quick look 20:37 dressedinvalue What is rpm? 20:37 dressedinvalue (Sorry, I am not the hippest to the server lingo) 20:38 myconid redhat package management .. how you install prepacked softwaer.. 20:38 dressedinvalue I see 20:38 chris its they way that fedora, redhat, centos and quick a few others manage software 20:38 myconid Debian uses .deb, etc.. everyone has to be fscking different 20:38 dressedinvalue haha, yes they do 20:38 myconid What release of Koha are you working with? 20:39 dressedinvalue The joys of freedom and capitalism 20:39 dressedinvalue I am new to Koha, so I will install 3.0 20:39 myconid your kicking my butt then :( i cant even get all the perl modules installed correctly. 20:39 chris http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/redhat/fc6/ 20:39 chris not sure if those will work with CentOS tho, if not, youll have to do a source install 20:40 chris which is pretty much downloading http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/idzebra-2.0.34.tar.gz 20:40 chris untarring 20:40 chris and following hte install instructions that come with it 20:40 dressedinvalue Where do I untar? 20:40 chris just in your home directory 20:41 chris (on the server) 20:41 chris then you cd into the untarred directory 20:41 chris run ./configure 20:41 chris and that will moan if you have missing dependencies 20:41 dressedinvalue Sorry, this is only slightly, slightly confusing. Home directory for the domain? Or home home home, like a higher-up dir? 20:42 dressedinvalue hahaha 20:42 dressedinvalue Dangit 20:42 dressedinvalue I am trying to learn, really. 20:42 chris it doesnt actually matter, thats just where you are uncompressing it 20:42 chris not installing it 20:42 dressedinvalue And it will install where it needs to install, automatically? 20:42 chris you are familiar with zip on windows? 20:42 chris you are just unzipping 20:43 dressedinvalue Sure. I've been extracting things remotely lately 20:43 dressedinvalue I've come to really appreciate it 20:43 chris yes, you run ./configure (in the uncompressed dir) 20:43 chris and that will set up the install paths 20:43 chris and if it is happy (doesnt say you are missing other software) 20:43 chris then make 20:43 chris and make install 20:43 chris (make install will need to be run as root) 20:43 chris will finish the install 20:44 dressedinvalue Do I read correctly: "make" and then "make install"? 20:44 chris yep 20:44 chris but only after you have run ./configure 20:44 chris and it has successfully completed 20:44 dressedinvalue Ok. I have to activate root access on the server, which made me nervous when I read about it yesterday 20:45 chris you dont need root until the very last step 20:47 dressedinvalue Okay, I just activated root access on the server. I feel dangerous! Now… 20:48 chris yeah dont do the rest as root 20:48 chris only the make install 20:48 dressedinvalue idzebra-2.0-2.0.32-1.i386.rpm ? 20:48 dressedinvalue Or the one that you linked? 20:48 chris thats the rpm its for fedora, so i dont know if it will work with centos 20:49 dressedinvalue So I should just use the tar.gz you linked, and untar that and follow the rest of your directions? 20:49 chris yep, there is a README file in there 20:49 chris if you get lost 20:49 dressedinvalue Excellent, thank you so much for helping me 20:49 chris np 20:55 dressedinvalue Of course, I am missing some things 20:55 chris *nod* 20:55 dressedinvalue gcc, cc, cl.exe, "no acceptable C compiler…" 20:56 chris ouch 20:56 dressedinvalue That bad, eh? 20:56 chris id email the support guys for your VPS and say, you need to insall Zebra, but there is no C compiler, how would they recommend you do it 20:56 dressedinvalue Ok, will do 21:05 myconid there isnt a RPM? 21:06 chris there is one for fedora 9 which may or may not work 22:31 dressedinvalue Chris 22:32 chris yep? 22:33 dressedinvalue I have communicated with my VPS support folks, and they said I can activate/install Developer's Tools: http://kb.mediatemple.net/questions/807/(dv)+3.5+Tech+Specs+-+Developer%27s+Tools+package+listing. 22:33 dressedinvalue But I don't understand how that helps 22:33 chris presumably it gives you a c compiler 22:33 dressedinvalue I suppose so 22:33 chris ah yes 22:33 chris gcc-4.1.2-14.el5 22:33 dressedinvalue Ohh, I see 22:35 dressedinvalue So, if I install Developer's Tools, than I effectively opt out of their Update Option Program, which keeps the server software up to date. I wouldn't mind if I knew more about what I am doing with the server 22:35 chris is that the only way they suggest to install zebra? 22:35 dressedinvalue Decisions, decisions… I hope Koha would be worth it 22:35 dressedinvalue Yeah 22:35 chris it might be worth asking if a fedora rpm would work 22:36 dressedinvalue I will ask, thanks for that advice 23:05 myconid They assume if you install devtools you will probably be installing custom versions of apache, etc. 23:08 myconid dressedinvalue: do you do other things on this vps? 23:08 dressedinvalue I have other websites hosted on it 23:08 myconid Why are you installing Koha onto it? 23:09 dressedinvalue Church library 23:09 dressedinvalue I have been looking into different OPACs or ILSs and Koha seemed like the best 23:10 dressedinvalue Scriblio sounded like a good idea, but didn't make any sense after I installed it 23:10 myconid heh... im friends with the develoepr :) 23:10 dressedinvalue haha 23:10 myconid but I dont think its meant to be a full blown ils.. but i dunno 23:10 dressedinvalue The documentation describes how to use WordPress, not how to use Scriblio 23:11 dressedinvalue No, I realized it's just an OPAC, so there is no borrower-management 23:13 dressedinvalue vufind.org looked nice but it looked more complicated than Koha, and I think it left me with the same problem as Scriblio 23:14 dressedinvalue I'm too used to simple CMSs like WordPress, ExpressionEngine, Textpattern, etc 23:28 dressedinvalue Here's what MediaTemple said: A Fedora RPM might work as RPMs are the standard packaging system used by CentOS. However it would depend on the RPM specific configuration to guarantee success. I would suggest checking the CentOS website or the software maker and get specifics. 01:27 myconid How do I pick unimarc v. marc21? :) 02:00 Jo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARC_standards 07:53 chris hdl: are you about? 07:59 mason heya chris 07:59 mason the biblibrians should be about v. soon.. 08:00 mason late night ? 09:14 chris back