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02:06 chris bodgey :)
02:06 chris right
02:05 gmcharlt interposing an SSH tunnel
02:05 gmcharlt kinda sorta
02:05 chris that worked
02:05 gmc_test temporary test of CGI::IRC
01:16 mason ok, back to it..
01:13 mason very timely
01:12 gmcharlt mason: http://delivermagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/agenview-by_acme.jpg
01:11 mason wearing many hats!
01:10 mason getting there...
01:10 gmcharlt how are you doing?
01:09 gmcharlt just a little bit :)
01:09 mason u keeping busy over there galen
01:09 gmcharlt hey mason :)
01:07 chris *nod*
01:07 gmcharlt I'll find out tomorrow
01:07 gmcharlt given number of DOS attacks on pippin on late, it may be that Clay decided to lock down outbound and missed the CGI::IRC app
01:06 chris by blocking high ports
01:06 mason hmm, how to debug that :(
01:06 chris probably some retarded isp trying to stop p2p
01:06 gmcharlt would definitely explain lack of CGI-foo nicks for the past few weeks :)
01:06 chris so i suspect some outbound filtering is going on
01:06 gmcharlt heh
01:06 chris yeah, i can telnet to both from a variety of machines
01:05 gmcharlt so probably on our end
01:05 mason ah
01:05 chris *nod*
01:05 gmcharlt also times out for irc.freenode.net 6667
01:05 chris but you can get to other irc servers?
01:04 gmcharlt times out
01:04 chris from the machine
01:04 chris try telnet irc.katipo.co.nz 6667
01:04 gmcharlt not likely
01:04 gmcharlt right, but they theoretically could be blocking that IP address for some reason
01:03 chris its just another client hitting on port 6667
01:03 chris well from the katipo end, it cant tell
01:01 gmcharlt chris: thx. somethings preventing CGI::IRC from connecting to irc.katipo.co.nz - try to figure out if we're being blocked on the LL or Katipo end
01:00 chris they are on holiday, snowboarding and such
00:58 gmcharlt si: about?
21:44 Roberto Okay. Thanks.
21:42 gmcharlt you can use extended patron attributes to keep track of the grade levels for reporting purposes
21:42 gmcharlt Roberto: not unless you have different loan periods for each grade
21:39 Roberto In a school setting, would there be any good reason to set a patron category for each grade, or isn't that level of division necessary?
21:34 djmaster if I do not speak English, someone could help in Spanish
21:23 djmaster XML::RSS Algorithm::CheckDigits::M43_001 Biblio::EndnoteStyle POE Schedule::At
21:23 djmaster PDF::Reuse PDF::Reuse::Barcode Data::ICal GD::Barcode::UPCE \
21:23 djmaster MARC::Record Class::Accessor MARC::Charset MARC::File::XML \ HTML::Template::Pro MARC::Crosswalk::DublinCore
21:21 djmaster everything is fine??
21:19 gmcharlt djmaster: was module installed anyway, though? i.e., does perl -e 'use ZOOM;' work?
21:18 djmaster This is the error after cpan > force install Net::Z3950::ZOOM, http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/3b1RhR0vcj
21:15 djmaster wait moment please
21:02 gmcharlt the issue is that a server used for the network portion of the test is offline at moment
21:02 djmaster ok
21:02 chris what gmcharlt said :)
21:02 gmcharlt a force install should be safe
21:02 chris ah yes, its the tests failing
21:02 gmcharlt djmaster: there is a known, recent issue with the ZOOM test suite
21:01 djmaster This is the fault http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/291aryln1E
21:00 chris :)
20:59 gmcharlt chris: heh - and I may well have a cat on mine
20:46 chris acmoore: i may have a toddler squirming on my lap, but ill make it
20:46 acmoore chris: doesn't sound like the most convenient time for you, but I'm glad you can make it
20:45 chris ohh 7am saturday for the meeting, that works
20:45 djmaster wait
20:45 chris whats the error?
20:44 djmaster failure at the time of installation
20:44 Thatcher_Rea atz you there?
20:43 djmaster no
20:43 gmcharlt djmaster: is it failing during the test suite
20:41 djmaster someone has idea that might be happening??
20:40 djmaster hello I have a problem with the module Net: Z3950: ZOOM, I can not install
20:24 Roberto When I log in with "My Library" it says I have no library selected. When I log in with the library I've defined, it uses that, without requiring additional selection of the library.
20:20 atz that is almost always the correct one
20:19 atz Roberto: that just means that it takes the library from the account the user is logging in with
20:17 djmaster hola roberto
19:57 Roberto Don't see that in any settings, so far.
19:57 Roberto Small detail: is there a way to make our defined library the default value on the 8080 screen, instead of having it say "My Library" and forcing someone to select?
19:49 Roberto For some, oddball reason, the settings that were coming up from koha said "127.0.1.1" instead if "127.0.0.1" but I changed those references to "*" as you had indicated, and it worked.
19:47 atz cool
19:47 Roberto got it working now.
19:47 Roberto That had just been a guess from other info I had found.
19:47 atz should not point to your config file
19:46 atz Roberto: DirectoryIndex is a separate thing
19:46 Roberto atz, I found it.
19:45 Roberto Hola. Que tal?
19:45 djmaster hola
19:43 Roberto I think I'm just pointing to the wrong place.
19:41 Roberto Well, it was, but they didn't help - at least not yet.
19:36 Roberto Am looking more closely... That isn't XML - it looks like suggested VirtualHost settings.
19:35 Roberto Wait....
19:34 Roberto Just about everything else is the same as the default file already was, except for commenting out NameVirtualHost.
19:33 Roberto DirectoryIndex /koha-httpd.conf
19:33 Roberto DocumentRoot /etc/koha/
19:33 Roberto Maybe I'm not changing ENOUGH in the VirtualHost section. I have the following changed:
19:31 Roberto (or at least that's what it looks like)
19:31 Roberto Ah. Well, I've actually done those things, but all I keep getting, now, when I try to point to (for example) 127.0.0.1 is the XML.
19:29 atz then comment out NameVirtualHost
19:29 atz Put asterisks in, like <VirtualHost *>
19:29 Roberto Let me see what I can find about VirtualHost
19:28 Roberto That part is immaterial. The question is how to make koha the default thing that someone sees, regardless of how they actually connect.
19:28 atz the VirtualHost definitions specify what apache responds to
19:27 Roberto By system name, I simply meant that the DNS and/or host files would handle it.
19:27 atz (it can be done, if the system is configured correctly, but you can't make it happen)
19:26 atz Roberto: you can't force a remote system to connect to you by system name
19:23 Roberto THOSE settings worked, but now I'd like them to be the default.
19:22 Roberto I've tried variations of the ensite dissite commands, that are in INSTALL.debian, but those are not for default, but want a different site name.
19:22 hdl it is explained in INSTALL.debian, iirc.
19:21 Roberto hdl, I'm not familiar enough with that.
19:21 hdl Roberto: just make it on port 80 like default website on debian?
19:20 hdl ryan: never mind. was a question about biblio.serial and its management when no subfield attached
19:15 Roberto Haven't seen much response in a while, hdl.
19:13 hdl ryan: around ?
19:01 Roberto Okay. Tried a few things, but am NOT that familiar with this end of Apache management. How do I make koha the default page to come up when someone on the LAN just types the system name or IP address?
18:13 Roberto Okay. In other words, there are no aleady-customisable settings for this?
18:11 gmcharlt a new graphic, I would think
17:43 Roberto ...or would it be necessary for me to create a different graphic for the logo, etc.?
17:35 Roberto For me, it doesn't matter: I'm an American who helps them with these things. The staff and students have Spanish as their first language, however.
17:34 Roberto In any case, IS there a way to change "Koha" to something else for staff and patrons?
17:33 Roberto http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
17:32 gmcharlt Roberto: yeah, I had heard that it was an urban legend
17:30 Roberto In fact, in Mexico, the Nova was a VERY popular car, and people were not the least put off by the supposedly problematic name.
17:30 Roberto If it were two separate words ("no va") it would mean "doesn't go" or the like, but as a single word, it's just another Latin root meaning "new"
17:29 Roberto Which is actually apocryphal.
17:27 gmcharlt Roberto: heh - reminds me of the story of the Chevy Nova
17:25 Roberto Still seeing lots of references to "Koha," including a logo containing the word. Since this is a Spanish-speaking country, how do I get rid of that, as suggested by the koha FAQ (since "koha" sounds like "coja," which means "lame")?
17:21 Roberto The installation appears to be complete. Now I just have to figure out how to use this beast - and then teach the people in the school how to use it.
17:12 Roberto Well, Honduras (Central America) tends to have more U.S. connections, so MARC21 should probably be better. As I said: we are so small the MARC side of things may neve even get used.
17:11 acmoore perhaps the pending or upcoming database changes should be listed there with no database version number or something like that.
17:10 atz Roberto: MARC21 is more US, UNIMARC is more Europe
17:10 acmoore aha. OK. I was just wondering about the funny use of the database revision wiki page.
17:09 gmcharlt acmoore: I have notified Jesse
17:09 gmcharlt acmoore: not yet (at least, not in a appliable form)
17:09 Roberto Well, the web installer is working, so far. Any suggestions on choosing a flavour of MARC? It may not even matter here.
17:08 acmoore gmcharlt: have database versions v3.01.00.002 and v3.01.00.003 not been submitted yet?
17:01 Roberto Failed 12/40 tests, 70.00% okay
17:01 Roberto DIED. FAILED tests 3, 5, 7, 10, 13-14, 24, 29, 33, 37, 40-41
17:01 Roberto Test returned status 11 (wstat 2816, 0xb00)
17:01 Roberto t/26-packages...........dubious
17:01 Roberto # Looks like you failed 11 tests of 41 run.
17:01 Roberto (several other things associated with that)
17:00 Roberto Examples: # Failed test 'database creation 'wapkjqcjba''
17:00 Roberto Had to force the install. It still complained about a couple of things (examples to follow), but at least I'm getting something in my browser now.
16:59 Roberto Sorry - got sidetracked on a phone call.
16:48 liz excellent thanks atz
16:45 atz working on it further this afternoon
16:42 atz liz: i've looked at it, been breaking SIP into smaller cases w/ tests. it looks like the initial implementation had hardcoded 2 week due date to avoid having to check.
16:36 liz atz: any info on bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2541 ?
16:34 Roberto It's doing it now.
16:33 gmcharlt (and actually, that would be 'sudo cpan', of course)
16:33 gmcharlt force install Net::Z3950::ZOOM
16:33 gmcharlt if you get the same test errors, then do
16:33 gmcharlt install Net::Z3950::ZOOM
16:33 gmcharlt then in cpan shell
16:33 gmcharlt cpan
16:33 gmcharlt Roberto: try this
16:33 Roberto again, or just one part?
16:32 Roberto XML::RSS Algorithm::CheckDigits::M43_001 Biblio::EndnoteStyle POE Schedule::At
16:32 Roberto PDF::Reuse PDF::Reuse::Barcode Data::ICal GD::Barcode::UPCE \
16:32 Roberto Net::Z3950::ZOOM HTML::Template::Pro MARC::Crosswalk::DublinCore \
16:32 Roberto sudo cpan MARC::Record Class::Accessor MARC::Charset MARC::File::XML \
16:32 Roberto Should I try the whole...
16:32 Roberto Maybe something happened when I mentioned those earlier errors. Will try to CPAN that package again.
16:31 Roberto Okay. That's it.
16:31 Roberto Remember seeing something about ZOOM, somewhere in the instructions, but can't find it now....still looking.
16:31 acmoore yeah, I guess I wasn't really asking you. That was more of a rhetorical question or something. Anyway, you're missing one of the dependnecies.
16:31 liz hey #koha, can anybody tell me the status of bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2541
16:30 acmoore I think it's called Net::Z3950::ZOOM.
16:29 Roberto Wouldn't know.
16:28 acmoore I forget what that dependency is called. it's the Z3950 perl module. Is that Net::Z3950 or something like that?
16:25 Roberto This time, I'll wait for your reply, since I can't proceed any more.
16:24 Roberto BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 23.
16:24 Roberto Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 23.
16:24 Roberto BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Output.pm line 30.
16:24 Roberto Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Output.pm line 30.
16:24 Roberto BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 84.
16:24 Roberto Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 84.
16:24 Roberto The following fatal error has occurred:
16:24 Roberto shouldn't be "localhost:8080" but "library:8080"
16:23 Roberto Ah....getting there.
16:22 Roberto when I try "localhost:8080" as suggested, it just goes to the default site (i.e. "it works") and if I try the site name a couple different ways, it's just not found.
16:21 Roberto Now trying to figure out how to access the site.
16:21 Roberto the "make install" seemed to make it through okay.
16:12 acmoore one problem is that we don't run them with the '-v' flag, so there's not that much information shown on the display. another is that we don't really log it or anything so it can be sent in later.
15:56 Roberto If there's a log that may contain that, I could try posting that.
15:55 Roberto Too late. I've already gone ahead and run the "sudo make install"
15:40 gmcharlt pastebin?
15:39 acmoore I'd be interested in seeing which tests failed. I don't know of a good way for you to show me, though.
15:38 acmoore it should not be. Those questions are about a more extensive test suite. Koha runs a small one by default regardless of how you answer those questions.
15:33 Roberto Is that because I said "no" to the earlier installation question about testing?
15:32 Roberto Failed 9/19 test scripts, 52.63% okay. 19/47 subtests failed, 59.57% okay.
15:29 Roberto Well, the installation is still going, so that's good. Just sitting back and waiting, now.
15:04 paul (using misc/migration_tools/rebuild(no)zebra.pl
15:04 paul you just need to change a syspref and reindex your datas
15:03 paul Roberto: you can switch zebra/nozebra when you want.
14:57 Roberto It is unlikely that we would need it, but I would just like to know, for future reference.
14:56 Roberto Since our system will be so small, I will choose NOT to use Zebra. If, for some reason, Zebra becomes necessary later on, is it possible to "switch in on" at that time?
14:55 mc so one more account ;)
14:55 mc ok
14:54 acmoore I don't think so.
14:52 mc ?)
14:52 mc (i mean: i created an account on contrib.koha.org: can it work for bugs.*
14:51 mc does liblime tools share authentification ?
14:29 hdl Amit ?
14:29 Roberto Hello, mc.
14:27 mc_ hello world
14:19 Roberto Judging from the rest of the line, it only appears to be some kind of test, not critical for continuation.
14:18 acmoore Roberto: someone else reported that indexdata has recently changed their service, and that it's causeing failing tests, too.
14:18 gmcharlt Roberto: known issue - IndexData's test server is down at the moment
14:15 Roberto # in t/16-packages.t at line 88.
14:15 Roberto # Failed test 'connection to 'test.indexdata.com:2118' refused (10007)'
13:42 Roberto For example, if a directory is named "koha" and you mistype the command as "cd kohs" it will ask you "koha?" instead of just giving an error message. Is that available in bash, at all?
13:40 Roberto Some versions of UNIX shells have a "spell-check" feature built in to the "cd" command.
13:39 Roberto Here's an off-the-wall question I've just never bothered to check...
13:36 Roberto That was my guess. Just checking.
13:35 acmoore it seems like you always get an error like that until you get the debian keys on your keyring or something like that.
13:35 acmoore Roberto: probably not. I think that the keyring is the thing that debian uses to authenticate its own packages.
13:35 atz_ Roberto: not sure on that one... probably not a big deal
13:32 Roberto Should I be at all concerned that, during the step to install the debian-backports-keyring, it said it could not be authenticated?
13:28 Amit like koha-2.2.5 to koha-3 stable
13:27 Amit i already installed step by step
13:27 Amit like fedora
13:27 Amit i have not studies any install documentation
13:26 Amit no
13:26 atz_ Amit: you may want to use the INSTALL.fedora7 document then
13:24 acmoore Roberto: thanks.
13:22 Roberto There was nothing more current at kohadocs.org
13:21 Roberto http://www.kohadocs.org/Installing_Koha_on_Debian_sarge.html
13:21 Roberto AC, those are the ones under "English" in the "Installation" section at kohadocs
13:19 acmoore Roberto: where are the instructions for koha 2.2 and Sarge that you followed at first? I'd like to get those removed.
13:19 Amit not on debian
13:19 Amit hey atz i am on RHEL
13:18 atz_ Amit: you will want to use the same file: INSTALL.debian
13:17 Roberto Let me see if THOSE instructions help any more than the ones on the web.
13:16 Roberto I had not downloaded Koha yet, but have since done so, and just discovered the INSTALL,Debian file you just mentioned.
13:16 atz_ the binary package for Event would be libevent-perl, i think
13:16 Roberto Since I still had to install Debian on this machine, anyway, I had followed the directions exactly, making sure I still had all the Debian things right.
13:16 atz_ INSTALL.debian should be the most current
13:15 Roberto I've been following the documentation from the kohadocs site...
13:14 Roberto Let me see if this is any different...
13:14 Roberto atz, that would be great if I had any idea what it was or how it fit in, but I don't. Wait.....
13:13 Amit i have no idea on debian
13:13 Amit sory for that debian
13:13 Amit i am installed koha on RHEL
13:13 atz_ you might try a manual process for that module, or look for a debian packaged binary
13:12 Roberto Then again, the documentation doesn't seem to be very current, since the instructions say Koha 2.2 and Debian Sarge.
13:12 Roberto Could be I'm missing a dependency of some sort, but so far, I've followed the Debian-related installation instructions exactly.
13:11 atz_ Roberto: never seen that one...
13:11 Amit then
13:10 Roberto It's during the "install Event" part of CPAN
13:10 Amit i amit from india
13:10 Amit tell me
13:10 danny hello #koha
13:10 Amit yes
13:10 Roberto Here it is: invalid type argument of ‘unary *’
13:10 Roberto Ah! Someone is awake!
13:09 atz_ Roberto: what error?
12:58 Roberto More specifically, for an error encountered?
12:57 Roberto Anyone available for installation help?