Time Nick Message 12:56 gmcharlt heh 13:39 danny hello #koha 13:39 owen Hi danny 13:41 gmcharlt hi danny 14:05 danny what is the trick to running the nozebra_rebuild.pl script? i am getting errors about can't find koha configuration 14:07 gmcharlt danny: KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB env vars should be set in order to run scripts from command-line 14:11 danny gmcharlt: ah, that worked, thanks 14:29 acmoore atz: you around? 14:36 atz here 14:38 acmoore atz: I'm fixing up some POD syntax errors, and I notice a large chunk of code commented out by you recently with POD tags. I often do that to temporarily coment out stuff while I'm working, so I wanted to make sure you realized it was still commented out. 14:38 acmoore see http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commitdiff;h=5aecb46ad05795d259dfe7f581e3519af5a07afd 14:38 acmoore in C4/SIP/Sip/MsgType.pm, it looks like you added a =doc ... =cut around a few dozen lines. 14:39 acmoore so, they're a comment now, but look like code. 14:39 atz not seeing it in that link ? 14:40 atz ah, at the bottom 14:40 acmoore yeah, sorry, I don't see how to direct you to just the diffs for that file. 14:40 atz #patch 4 14:41 atz er, #patch4 14:41 atz i'll check and get back to you in shortly 14:41 acmoore anyway, my POD syntax checker barfs on =doc, I think that you're supposed to use =pod for arbitrary comment blocks. Also, there aren't blank lines around the tags. So, I can fix that syntax, but it's sort of odd, so I thought I'd point it out. 14:42 acmoore OK. It's not really urgent or anything. THanks! 14:50 acmoore atz: I see it now. You've extracted all of that code to the login_core function where it's nearly duplicated. That function is called just before the comment block. I believe it is correctly commented out. 14:50 acmoore so, I no longer have my concern. you can return to your regularly scheduled programming. Thanks! 14:51 atz acmoore: same conclusion here 14:55 acmoore gmcharlt: I just sent you an 18 patch bomb. I'm wondering if that's an acceptable way to wholesale address bug 2400. If it looks OK by eye to you, I can resend to patches@. If you don't have time today, just let me know and I'll send them along to the list right away. 15:11 gmcharlt acmoore: patchset looks ok per eyeball - go ahead and submit 15:12 acmoore gmcharlt: thanks. sent. 15:52 nengard hello all 16:00 aindilis hi is that newircbot that logs things here, is that available for download somewhere? 16:00 aindilis hi nengard 16:05 acmoore yeah, there's something about newlogbot on the wiki. 16:05 acmoore aindilis: here it is: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php#irc 16:25 gmcharlt aindilis: what do you want to download, the bot itself? 16:25 aindilis I want to setup logging of my channels, and this looked as good as any 16:25 aindilis thanks 16:26 aindilis I want to download the bot itself 16:27 gmcharlt aindilis: ok, I'll toss up a tarball for you 16:28 aindilis great thanks 16:28 gmcharlt aindilis: it's a funbot, but I'm not sure if the funbot project still exists 16:28 atz what's the other common one, supybot? 16:29 gmcharlt atz: yeah 16:29 gmcharlt I wouldn't mind putting a supybot on #koha, actually 16:29 owen What's the difference? 16:30 gmcharlt lot's more functionality, and ability to add it all kinds of modules 16:30 gmcharlt see zoia on #code4lib for an idea 16:41 gmcharlt aindilis: http://arwen.metavore.com/~gmc/funbot-koha.tar.bz2 16:41 aindilis thanks 16:42 aindilis got it 16:42 gmcharlt ok 17:21 ryan owen: ( or anyone ) : was the option to create a new framework as a duplicate of an existing one removed ? 17:22 ryan or am i blind ? 17:23 nengard ryan - i remember it being there 17:23 nengard but it's not 17:24 nengard ryan - you can do this still 17:24 nengard first create the framework then click on marc structure and it asks which framework to start with 17:24 ryan ah, ok 17:25 ryan nengard: thanks! 17:25 nengard np 17:25 nengard i should write that up if it's not already 17:32 Sharon hey nicole, do you have a special app you use with your mac to add screen shots to the manual? I'm trying to tweak and personalize the manual for our training next week...and my mac is causing me fits 17:33 acmoore Sharon: I like "snapz pro x" for screenshots and for movies: http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/ 17:33 nengard Sharon i use the mac hot key for it 17:34 nengard command+shift+4 17:34 nengard it's awesome!! 17:34 Sharon ok, and then just insert the .pngs into your google doc 17:34 Sharon tried using grab and the gdocs doesn't like .tiffs 17:35 nengard it likes the .pngs 17:36 Sharon cool. i'll send you my tweaks when I'm done. just adding stuff that patrons might like to know, such as "Once your password is changed, library staff cannot see or retrieve it for you" 17:37 liz-nekls you might also be interested in http://www.nexpresslibrary.org 17:40 nengard liz-nekls this is great! 17:41 Sharon nengard we're going to put our public and staff training materials here, along with PR info and general NExpress shared catalog news 17:41 nengard sharon that is awesome!!! 17:41 nengard tinaburger have you seen this? 17:54 liz_ it's still being fleshed out 17:54 liz_ nexpresslibrary.org, that is 17:55 nengard liz-nekls it's a great idea 18:08 nengard sharon - just fyi - i'm going to re-write the label documentation in the manual - if you got any pointers from your staff on that, let me know 18:10 Sharon nengard we'll ask the folks at atchison if they've played with it yet. they just sent us instructions for creating a new patron account 18:10 nengard k 19:06 owen liz-nekls: I have a first draft of a document up that describes how we do our "new and upcoming" list on the OPAC: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/newtitles 19:16 Sharon owen, i shared this with liz. thank you!!! 19:37 liz-nekls_ hey peps... Owen, that is SO BOSS thanks so much 19:37 liz-nekls_ question though, how do you get the titles into your micro database? 19:37 owen I left that part out, didn't I? :) 19:38 owen It's another little set of PHP scripts, and I'd be happy to document that too. 19:38 liz-nekls_ ...lol yea 19:38 liz-nekls_ <3 forever 19:38 owen I thought I'd start with the basics 19:39 liz-nekls_ but still that's hawtness 19:39 liz-nekls_ i'm wondering if it could be made into a wp plugin 19:39 liz-nekls_ (to myself) 19:40 owen Since you're just pulling data from a list, it shouldn't matter where you get it. You could even build it to pull from a virtual shelf I suppose 19:44 liz-nekls_ ! it's genius i love it ! 19:51 atz owen: got RSS? 19:52 owen You betcha 19:52 owen But you have to click through to the full list: http://www.myacpl.org/readers/upcoming 20:49 chris buenos dias 20:56 rhcl 안녕 20:56 rhcl Hummm, it worked 20:56 atz gmcharlt: sent patch to realign "Tag Cloud" link in masthead 20:57 gmcharlt hi chris 20:57 gmcharlt atz: thanks 20:57 chris nicely done rhcl :) 20:58 rhcl Yea, I'm supposed to be able to speak Korean, I just didn't know if xchat would handle the characters. 20:58 chris yep, irssi handled them fine too 20:59 chris speaking as possibly the new translation manager, i notice our korean translation is not finished :) 21:05 rhcl 나는 �해하지 않는다. 21:05 rhcl (That means: "I don't understand you") 21:06 pianohacker 馬鹿 21:07 pianohacker irc.pl: error: error code not found 21:08 pianohacker Possibly unique 3.2 blocker: cat on desk clawing at mousing hand 21:09 chris heh 21:09 acmoore WORKSFORME 21:10 pianohacker Platform: Linux (with cat) 21:12 chris my issue is "Little child staring at me saying 'Daddy'" 21:13 chris if ignored, he will start to poke you with books 21:13 pianohacker Heh, even worse 21:35 cnighs hehe 21:39 gmcharlt chris: double-checking re Debian package - do you intend to work on that on the master branch, then have it cherry-picked into 3.0.x? 21:47 chris yeah thats probably easiest 21:48 chris lets leave it in the master now, until its production ready 21:49 chris the only thing that might change is the control file (for the dependencies) that might become different between branches 21:52 gmcharlt and currently hard-coded version number in the control file 21:52 chris yeah, its not actually used 21:52 chris so that can come out 21:52 chris the rules file uses the the version number from the changelog 21:53 chris so you dch -i 21:53 chris update that 21:53 chris and build a new package 21:53 chris ill rip it out, so its not confusing 21:53 chris i have a coffee scheduled with francios today, who is one of the DD here, he is gonna give me some hints, im stuck on the .config file at the mo 21:54 gmcharlt great 21:55 gmcharlt I'll apply your current patch series, and await further results :) 21:58 chris oh i already did 21:58 chris http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=83448c324fa8e63f9f17ede734f03c33eae18dad 21:58 chris heh 22:00 chris i love gitweb 22:01 gmcharlt I don't know if the control format allows it, but breaking up depends across multiple lines woudl be nice 22:02 chris yeah, that was the line that made git-send-email barf 22:02 chris ill see what i can do 22:02 chris i think it supports / 22:02 chris or \ 22:02 chris even 22:07 gmcharlt bbiab 22:28 chris certainly looks like you can, ie dpkg-buildpackage didnt barf 22:30 kados so chris ... do you anticipate koha making it into debian officially anytime soon? 22:31 chris i might get it into lenny 22:31 chris before it becomes stable 22:31 kados cool 22:31 chris might be some licensing issues 22:31 chris thats one of the other things im gonna talk to francois about 22:32 chris whether the stuff that isnt under the GPL is gonna cause any dramas 22:32 kados ahh, right 22:32 kados like famfamfam? 22:32 chris yeah 22:32 kados and maybe YUI 22:32 chris and i think maybe the greybox js we use 22:32 kados there's a license tab now on the about page 22:33 chris but yeah, ill find out what the deal is 22:33 kados if you find anything that's not listed there, add it :=) 22:33 chris will do 22:33 chris certainly we have have an apt.koha.org 22:33 chris with the package there 22:34 chris for a bunch of architectures, and distros (ubuntu included) 22:34 chris while we get it into the main distro 22:35 chris s/have have/can have/ 22:35 kados ahh, right 22:35 kados let me know if you need me to set up DNS for koha.org 22:35 chris will do 22:36 chris currently i just have them at apt.workbuffer.org 22:36 chris for testing purposes 22:37 kados sweet 22:39 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/4654259a26500.html <--- this is the story making my life hell at the mo 22:39 chris but its a good story :) 22:40 chris right avg response time is back under 1 sec .. time for a coffee 22:43 ryan argh... 22:43 ryan [Tue Aug 12 18:09:07 2008] label-print-pdf.pl: Wide character in syswrite at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/PDF/Reuse.pm line 968. 22:43 ryan pesky wide characters. 22:44 cnighs hehe 22:45 cnighs been there, done that 22:47 kados ryan: check the solution I committed for the same problem ... it's a three line fix 22:47 ryan that's amusing. Togo's first medal in whitewater kayaking 22:47 ryan kados: yeah, just did, and testing it now. 22:47 chris the video is good too ryan 22:47 chris where he gets all excited and breaks his paddle :) 22:50 ryan reminds me of the jamaican bobsled team :) 23:05 cnighs kados: is that a fix for the label-print-pdf.pl wide-char issue? 23:08 ryan yay. Encode fixes the pdf problem. 23:39 gmcharlt back 00:52 chris lol http://www.stuff.co.nz/4654329a26500.html 00:56 gmcharlt heh 01:03 cnighs M$++ hehe 05:55 nicomo hello all 05:58 chris hi nicomo 05:58 hdl hi 05:59 nicomo hi chris : still at your desk? What time is it in nz? 06:05 mc hello all 06:07 mc nicomo, i think that i chatted with chris in late morning cupple of times... perhaps from home ? 06:23 chris yep 06:23 chris im at home 06:23 chris its 6.30pm 06:36 mc hehe ... chris uses screen :) 06:36 chris yep 06:37 mc i do too! this software roxes (even if it's open source ;) ) 06:43 chris heh 06:52 chris i pretty much use nothing but FLOSS software 06:52 chris unless im forced too :) 06:55 hdl I bet mc too. 08:47 chris anyone about? 08:48 chris http://pootle.workbuffer.org/projects/intranet/ 08:48 chris can people see that? 08:48 mc i can see a 403 08:48 mc :) 08:48 chris ah ill fix that 08:52 chris now? 08:56 mc better 08:56 chris cool 08:58 mc didn't know plootle before 08:58 mc seems good 08:58 chris yeah its a bit nicer than kartouche 08:59 chris and under active development 08:59 chris i like the fact you can upload .po files to it 08:59 chris and merge them 08:59 chris so people can download, and work on them locally if they want, then upload it back 09:00 mc online edition too ? 09:00 chris yep 09:00 mc very good 09:01 chris and you can backend it onto git 09:01 chris (or other vc systems) 09:02 chris http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle/version_control 09:03 chris ill test it out a bit more, and get others to look, as well as setting up any other systems that look nice, and then we can pick the best one 09:03 chris but now, im going to watch some olympics :) 09:04 mc have a good tv session 09:10 hdl mc, chris pootle seems to have the same drawbacks as kartouche unless i am mistaken : 09:10 hdl no way to jump to context. 09:12 nicomo yep: from the translators point of view, context is crucial 09:12 nicomo I love what LibraryThing did 09:13 nicomo if you go from librarything.com to librarything.fr you'll see a "traduire ceci" (translate this) on top right of screen 09:14 hdl http://pootle.workbuffer.org/fr/intranet/fr-FR-i-staff-t-prog-v-3000000.po?translate=1&fuzzy=1&editing=1&blank=1 09:15 hdl editing gflag is lost from one page to an other. 09:15 nicomo when clicking on "traduire ceci" you jump to translate.php?page=775902985 09:15 nicomo nice 09:15 hdl Doesn't looks available on pootle though. 09:17 hdl the problem would be that we would have to SEARCH exact msg. 09:19 nicomo how he manages this (sorry) 09:20 chris the thing that pootle has over kartouche is you can download the po use whatever tool you like and upload it back up and it merges, so you can use kbabel or other tools 09:21 chris but im still looking at other systems too 09:26 nicomo uploading the .po file is definitely a + 10:03 chris hdl: http://pootle.workbuffer.org/fr/opac/fr-FR-i-opac-t-prog-v-3000000.po?translate=1&fuzzy=1&editing=1&blank=1 10:03 chris does having ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-tags.tmpl:115 10:03 chris there, help at all? 10:04 chris that way you can at least look at the tmpl file to see the context 10:06 chris ill email the list tomorrow too 10:07 chris have a good day biblibrians :) 10:07 nicomo bye chris 10:07 hdl bye 10:07 hdl having ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-tags.tmpl:115 10:07 hdl is more than nothing. 10:08 hdl But would be better if we could jump into the page. 10:08 hdl having kindo' translator from tmpl to url integrated. 10:59 martinmorris hello all, just installed koha 3 and got a small problem i don't entirely understand 10:59 martinmorris with how the top menu displays 11:02 gaano cd /opt/var/koha/ 11:02 gaano ls 11:02 gaano oops 11:34 martinmorris well if anybody has any ideas i'd welcome them - cheers