Time Nick Message 10:11 lloyd taskmgr 23:36 ricardo Well... It's now time to go to sleep, here. Take care everyone! :) 22:40 ricardo dkg: OK :) 22:40 dkg and it *is* awaiting moderator approval, fwict. :P 22:40 dkg oops. that's a thinko in IRC here. it was actually sent to patches@koha.org. 22:39 ricardo dkg: koha.com ? Why are you messing with the "Kalamazoo Optimist Hockey Association" - http://www.koha.com/ ? ;-) 22:37 dkg kados: it's not getting through to patches@koha.com because it "awaits moderator approval". 22:20 ricardo I will NOT blame you for postponing correcting that one! ;-) 22:20 ricardo http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2125 22:19 ricardo Bug 2125 - Contributors page ("Hall of Fame") returns Kartouche error 22:19 ricardo Kados: A lower priority bug (but that's hurting translator morale, eheh) reported by me: 22:17 kados ricardo: could be 22:12 ricardo kados: Very interesting. Seems similar to my problem. Maybe it's UNIMARC related? 22:11 ricardo kados: Nope. That wasn't me. But let me read that, BTW :) 22:10 dkg kados: i'm pretty sure. it's handing off to a public server, though, which might be doing some sort of intermediate greylisting. ah, SMTP. 22:10 kados ricardo: no ... I was referring to 2212: Searching with Itemtype limit doesn't work 22:09 ricardo ? 22:09 ricardo http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2178 22:09 kados dkg: I haven't got the patch yet, you sure your server's outgoing mail is configured? 22:09 ricardo "NoZebraIndexes" system preference is being set to MARC21 values in UNIMARC installations 22:08 ricardo kados: Are you talking about this one: 22:08 kados ricardo: it's assigned to me and I didn't get to it yet, will be checking on it today or tomorrow ... but as of yet I haven't seen any other reports of that issue 22:08 kados ricardo: are you the one that filed that bug in bugzilla? 22:07 ricardo To All: are searches in the catalog by "Item Type" working for you? They aren't in my setup, but my records are there from an import. 22:06 dkg chris: ok, it's been sent. thanks for the hand-holding. 22:04 chris and you should be away 22:04 dkg ah. gotcha. 22:04 chris apt-get install that 22:04 chris git-email 22:04 chris in debian 22:04 chris its a separate package 22:04 dkg yah, and it doesn't work without extra arguments either. 22:04 chris doh, thats what you typed hehe 22:03 chris that work? 22:03 chris git send-email 22:03 dkg (it's git-core from debian lenny, fwiw) 22:02 kados hmmm 22:02 dkg 0 dkg@ihimaera:~/src/koha$ 22:02 dkg git version 1.5.5.3 22:02 dkg 1 dkg@ihimaera:~/src/koha$ git version 22:02 dkg git: 'send-email' is not a git-command. See 'git --help'. 22:02 dkg 0 dkg@ihimaera:~/src/koha$ git send-email 0002-fix-coins-openurl-breakage-when-search-terms-include.patch 22:01 kados dkg: we generally recommend git-send-email and I think the version is specified ... 1.5 maybe/ 22:01 dkg http://lair.fifthhorseman.net/~dkg/git/koha.git 22:01 dkg or is it acceptable to just point to my public repo? i've published my git repo (only 2 original additional patches at the moment, both trivial) at: 21:59 ricardo I think I'll go for a contingency plan: (1) do some minor changes in the wiki, (2) copy the changed version in git, (3) if I have time update the file in wiki and git for openSUSE 11 Final. If there's no time for it.... The INSTALL.opensuse file that will be in Koha 3 RC1 will be based on openSUSE 11 RC1 (I guess that's more consistent in a twisted kind of way! ;-) 21:59 dkg shall i just send the patch on with mailx? 21:59 dkg what version of git does http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage expect? 21:59 dkg chris: i'm trying to follow the git URL instructions that you pointed me to, but i'm afraid my version of git doesn't have the send-email subcommand. 21:57 kados hehe 21:56 ricardo kados: Right... 23H59 in your time would be good enough! ;-) Actually, my main problem is the release date of openSUSE 11 - this Thursday. Downloading the DVD, creating a new Virtual Machine, repeating all the steps... I think it will be a stretch. Not to mention I'm working (and NOT on Holidays :-/ ) 21:55 kados ricardo: so it'll be Friday at around 5pm EST 21:54 kados ricardo: I'm in Ohio USA 21:52 ricardo New Zealand is AHEAD of us! :D 21:52 ricardo Oops forget that 21:52 ricardo kados: Is the deadline on Friday at 23H59 ... hmm... in New Zealand time? ;-) (trying to buy some time here, like any good Portuguese - like me - would do, eheh) 21:50 kados ricardo: but if you could get it in before RC1 that'd be great! 21:50 kados ricardo: it's a good idea, but I will accept documentation submissions all the way up to 5 minutes before the final stable release :-) 21:48 ricardo dkg: LOL! :) 21:48 ricardo ...tutorial accordingly" 21:48 ricardo kados: BTW, could you please answer my 2nd question above - "[22:34] <ricardo> My 2nd question (probably also to kados): Is this Friday also the "deadline" for putting in git the installation tutorials? I have already put my Installation Tutorial in the Wiki but I was waiting for some feedback (and the release of openSUSE 11 Final on Thursday) to do one final installation and update the... 21:47 dkg ricardo: my initials when i was born were actually dgk. so maybe you're just chronologically challenged. 21:47 ricardo s/dgk/dkg. I'm becoming dyslexic (sp?) 21:47 dkg it was an easy package to create with dh-make-perl, though. 21:46 kados atz: still around? 21:46 dkg (sorry: it's an RFP, not an ITP, since i'm not a perl packager) 21:46 ricardo kados: Agreed! 21:46 dkg http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=484556 21:46 kados ricardo: I'd recommend holding off until 3.2 ... focus on the OPAC ... because there will be some changes after RC1 that will require attention 21:46 ricardo dgk: Interesting. Thanks for the info 21:46 ricardo (last sentence was meant for "kados". Sorry! I forgot to prefix the message with the recipient) 21:45 ricardo LOL! I think I'm not THAT fast, eheh... But I can try :) Is it possible to "hold" (as in do NOT "commit"the translation") before release if the percentage of strings translated is under a certain threshold? 21:45 dkg i filed an ITP for it, though: 21:45 dkg kados: i wish. 21:44 kados dkg: libcgi-session-serialize-yaml ? 21:44 kados dkg: so there's a new package now for debian? 21:43 dkg i had the same issues on a debian lenny install. 21:43 dkg CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml was broken out from CGI::Session as a separate module recently. 21:42 kados ricardo: if you think you can translate 7000 strings before July 1 I'll make one for you :-) 21:42 ricardo kados: I'm guessing that creating a Portuguese PO file for the INTRANET would have to wait for version 3.1 or so, right? 21:41 ricardo kados: Thanks a Lot! :D 21:41 kados ricardo: done 21:39 kados OK, I'll do that now, just a moment 21:39 ricardo kados: Well, if could approve the Portuguese one, that would be great. Obviously, I'm partial for that one because I submitted lots of strings to it :) 21:38 kados ricardo: if you need me to approve a given translation before RC1, let me know and I'll update that one individually 21:38 kados ricardo: then translators can wrap up their translations in time for July 1 final release (hopefully) 21:38 kados ricardo: all translations are approved and moved into git before the RC1 is released 21:36 ricardo chris: OK. Thanks for the feedback :) 21:36 chris ie id expect docs to be going in right up until the release 21:35 chris i think the tutorial is ok to go later 21:34 ricardo (my Tutorial is the one about installing Koha 3 in openSUSE 11.0) 21:34 ricardo My 2nd question (probably also to kados): Is this Friday also the "deadline" for putting in git the installation tutorials? I have already put my Installation Tutorial in the Wiki but I was waiting for some feedback (and the release of openSUSE 11 Final on Thursday) to do one final installation and update the tutorial accordingly 21:32 ricardo ;-) 21:32 chris *nod* 21:32 ricardo dependencies, dependencies... 21:32 ricardo chris: Right. That's true 21:32 chris yeah its the supporting modules that are the tricky bit too 21:31 ricardo s/outdate/outdated 21:31 ricardo chris: That's a real shame that the Bundle for Koha is outdate :( I believe that one of the barriers to adopt Koha is a difficult installation process 21:31 chris and now, i better get to work 21:31 chris resurrecting that and fixing it so it has all the modules needed might be good 21:30 chris its so out of date, its useless now 21:30 chris http://search.cpan.org/~koha/Bundle-KohaSupport-0.08/KohaSupport.pm 21:30 chris we had a koha bundle 21:29 chris back in the olden days 21:29 ricardo chris: Very interesting. Thanks for the info! :) 21:29 chris like Bundle::CGI::Session that did them all, that would be the way to do it 21:28 chris if there was a CPAN bundle 21:28 ricardo CPAN newbie question: would it be possible to to some kind of install "CGI::Session::*" [where * = all modules]? Would that be better? 21:27 ricardo hdl: Right. So the doubt probably remains. Oh well... 21:26 hdl But I installed those three CGI::Session submodules by hand and couldnot guess if CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml would solve all the problem in one module 21:26 ricardo hdl: Really? Hmmm.... OK. I'll add that to the openSUSE tutorial then 21:24 hdl ricardo: seems that CGI::Session::ID::md5 is needed to get rid of the error you spoke about. 21:24 ricardo chris: Sure. No problem. I'll lurk here for a while and see if kados "shows up" (besides his nick ;-) 21:23 hdl + should be loaded to. 21:23 ricardo hdl: In my experience, installing CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml "instead" of CGI::Session avoids the problem of "Can't locate object method "generate_id" via package "CGI::Session::ID::" later on :) 21:23 hdl + should also be used in Auth.pm and InstallAuth.pm 21:22 hdl should be added to dependencies. 21:22 chris ricardo: ahh you'll need to ask kados that one 21:22 hdl CGI::Session::Driver::mysql 21:22 hdl CGI::Session::ID::md5 21:22 chris yeah i noticed that 21:22 hdl CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml 21:22 chris eh hdl? 21:22 ricardo 1 - There are plenty of translations waiting for moderation at http://translate.koha.org Will it be possible to have them approved for RC1 and can we correct the translations after RC1? If not, would it be possible to APPROVE the lines waiting for moderation so people could correct the translations UNTIL the release of RC1? 21:22 chris yaml 21:22 hdl CGI::Session seems now to require use of other modules : 21:21 hdl gmcharlt: Have you had problems with new Koha installs ? 21:20 chris i may or may not be able to answer them :) 21:20 ricardo I have 2 questions regarding the "string freeze" planned for this Friday (20th): 21:19 ricardo Hi Chris! 21:19 chris hi ricardo 21:18 ricardo Hi all! :) 21:17 chris then it will make a patch for that 21:16 chris cool, git is good about creating a patch for each commit, so if you just commit that one change 21:16 dkg but i'm happy to give back, so i'll give it a shot. 21:16 dkg and i haven't published it yet. 21:16 dkg ah. i've got other changes in my local git repo also. 21:16 chris that should step you through it 21:15 chris if you look at the share with the rest of the world section 21:15 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage 21:14 chris you know how to do a git format-patch eh? 21:14 chris yes indeed 21:13 dkg should i submit the patch someplace? 21:13 dkg that fixed it for me, thanks! 21:09 dkg ok, testing... 21:09 chris yep 21:09 dkg that might be something i can just tweak on my side to test, no? 21:09 chris can you try changing it .. (it should be opac-results.tmpl) 21:08 dkg ah. OK. 21:08 chris i *think* that should be TMPL_VAR NAME="author_nospan" 21:07 chris rft.au=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="author" --> 21:07 chris in the template it has 21:07 dkg yeah, that looks suspicious! 21:06 chris thats busting it 21:06 chris rft.au=<span class="term">Tolkien</span>, J. R. R.& 21:06 chris i see the problem 21:03 chris lemme just check gitweb 21:03 chris im not sure, you are the first person ive seen report it 21:02 dkg is this something that's been fixed since a couple weeks ago? or is it something i should be able to fix myself? 21:02 dkg (i'm still new to git, so i'm even not sure if i'm looking at the right changeset, frankly) 21:02 chris yeah looking at the templates its definitely the coins stuff 21:01 dkg i did: "git fetch origin; git diff HEAD origin/master" 21:00 dkg i tried to see if there was anything likely in recent git changes, but didn't find anything. 21:00 chris it looks like its perhaps the coins/openurl bit breaking 20:57 chris oh i see what you mean 20:57 dkg searching for hobbit things seem OK, but searching for tolkien, they get what looks like malformed HTML. 20:56 dkg http://lair.fifthhorseman.net/~dkg/src/koha/tolkien-search.html 20:56 dkg http://lair.fifthhorseman.net/~dkg/src/koha/hobbit-search.html 20:56 dkg here's two output pages (forgive the lack of CSS styling -- these are just copied via wget): 20:53 chris sweet 20:52 chris ohh, looking now 20:52 Mjollnir` 17:38 < Mjollnir`> chris: http://docs.moodle.org/en/Development:Portfolio_API 20:52 Mjollnir` btw, 20:52 Mjollnir` oh chris, 20:52 dkg hrm, no i can't duplicate it on opac.liblime.com. 20:51 hdl hi chris 20:51 chris heh 20:51 Mjollnir` hi mothman :> 20:49 chris morning 20:44 dkg kados: i'll try 20:44 dkg i could capture and publish the pages, though, if that'd be useful. 20:44 kados dkg: can you reproduce the behavior on opac.liblime.com? 20:44 dkg sadly, this catalog isn't visible to the public. 20:44 dkg i'm not setting any advanced search features, either. 20:44 kados ? 20:44 kados dkg: got a link/ 20:43 dkg for example, i get weird output when i put "tolkien" in the search box, but normal output (with the same listings) when i use "hobbit" 20:43 dkg i've got a koha instance running from the git HEAD as of a couple weeks ago, and the OPAC (patron's) interface is producing some weird gobbledy-gook in each book listing, but only when i use the author's name as the search term. 20:26 owen Thanks atz, that seems to have worked (fingers crossed) 20:18 atz reset --hard undoes the changes too 20:18 owen So git reset doesn't undo the changes, it just undoes the commit 20:15 atz if you immediately committed again, you'd get the effect of both, in one commit 20:15 atz leaves the files looking like they were just *before* you committed (2 commits ago) 20:15 atz undoes the last 2 commits 20:15 atz probably: git reset --soft HEAD~2 20:08 owen I've seen that page, but it's greek to me :( Is there a "for dummies" version? 20:07 atz http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-reset.html 20:07 atz owen: yeah, you can reset 20:05 owen No 20:04 Mjollnir` +h 20:04 Mjollnir` ave you pushed it ? 20:04 owen Hey git experts, say I have a commit two commits back that I want to cancel. Is there a way to do that, other than to re-commit the changed file(s) in another commit? 19:34 atz it has to parse to figure out what month of the calendar to display when you have typed in a given datestring 19:33 hdl_laptop but back from string to date, i donot know. 19:31 hdl_laptop atz : yes, for display 19:30 atz it has some format-parsing 19:30 atz hdl_laptop: you might want to look at the Calendar library we are using 19:29 hdl_laptop owen : Because I am looking for some way to convert back date strings to Date and use that. 19:26 owen hdl_laptop: No, why? 19:26 hdl_laptop owen : Is there some jquery function to parse a string into date just like in prototype or ExtJS ? 19:17 kados hdl: wondering if you will also look at 2114 ... if so, I'll assign it to you 19:17 kados hdl: still here? 19:12 owen hdl_laptop: No, why? 18:59 hdl_laptop owen : is there a jquery function that parses strings like parseDate in prototype ? 18:37 gmcharlt hdl: yes, it is a piece of cake: just a 10-year-old fruitcake ;) 18:35 hdl kados : please do. 18:35 kados *nod* 18:35 hdl It is rather a "bug fixing" issue on the old data. 18:35 kados hdl: I will likely ask gmcharlt to look carefully at your patches as well 18:34 hdl But it is not a migration process. 18:34 hdl this is not quite easy to fix. 18:34 kados sounds like a start 18:34 kados OK 18:33 hdl (And there must be some of them, maybe most of them.) 18:33 hdl But what would be annoying is if those previous serials had really bad inner counters and serial sequences. 18:32 hdl creating tables and adding the rows which corresponded to those that were in the js is quite easy. 18:31 hdl Indeed, 18:31 hdl I shall submit tables and table content that will fit in for the purpose of serials migration 18:30 hdl one issue is : how do we migrate previous 3.0 (not to mention 2.2) serials? 18:30 hdl hi again. 18:29 kados hdl: hi 18:28 hdl kados ? 18:02 gmcharlt rch: about? 18:00 kados cool, thanks 17:59 owen Yes, as far as I know 17:59 kados owen: have those changes been pushed up ? 17:59 kados owen: last question for 'patched' bugs : 2167 17:57 kados k 17:57 owen kados, my patches addressed some issue related to the bug, but not a fix. It looks like it's fixed now, based on my tests, but it wasn't due to my patches. If that makes sense. 17:55 kados owen: and did you submit the updates for 1943 already, and can I close that out too? 17:55 owen Yes 17:54 kados owen: did you ever submit that patch for 2183? and can we close that out now? 17:38 kados thx 17:38 gmcharlt it can be closed as far as I'm concerned 17:37 kados gmcharlt: are you happy with the state of 2180 or do you want to leave that open ? 17:36 kados some of this stuff gets reported twice :-) 17:36 kados owen: there was another related bug I believe 17:35 owen kados, so someone submitted a patch that ended up fixing 1943 without updating the bug? It does seem to be fixed. 17:31 owen Sure, I'll take a look 17:27 kados owen: IIRC there was a fix for the underlying hiding issue that should make the syspref behave properly 17:26 kados owen: do you have a moment to test bug 1943? 17:22 kados hdl: one issue is : how do we migrate previous 3.0 (not to mention 2.2) serials? 17:22 kados hdl: I'll make some time this week to test when you have it ready 17:21 kados hdl: well, go ahead and keep working on it ... 17:20 hdl But those subscription bugs will have to wait for 3.2 to be fixed. 17:20 hdl If you still think it has to wait 3.2, i shall work on that. 17:19 hdl let me know what you think. 17:09 hdl number patterns are hardcoded for a peculiar frequency but nothing tells the user it is so. 17:08 hdl And debugging them is a nightmare if we have ti dig into the js code. 17:07 hdl many getNextSeq problems comes out because of a bad design of number patterns. 17:06 hdl But fixing that bug induce me into putting frequencies and numberpatterns into tables rather than hardcoding them in js 17:05 hdl I am trying to fix subscription duplication bugs. 17:04 kados hdl: or just new features? 17:04 kados hdl: are there bugs that you seek to solve? 17:04 hdl kados : I am too concerned of that problem. 16:59 kados owen++ 16:59 owen Good. I'm going to try to focus on my list of outstanding template bugs as much as I possibly can 16:58 kados so my next goal is Friday ... and the whole LL team is working on bugfixing this week, so I hope we'll make good progress 16:58 kados owen: I had hoped to declare string freeze by today, but we're running behind on bug fixes and it wouldn't make sense 16:57 kados owen: both are OK this week 16:57 owen kados, what kind of changes do you hope to avoid this week? Template changes okay? Template string changes not okay? 16:57 kados owen: hiya 16:57 kados I'm just concerned we wont' be able to test before Friday, when I hope to release RC1 16:56 kados hdl: can they wait until 3.2? 16:56 owen Hi kados, hdl 16:56 hdl db changes too. 16:55 kados hdl: any db changes? or just javascript/perl ones? 16:55 hdl hope sending you all something on Wednesday. 16:55 hdl yes. 16:55 kados hdl: are you working on serials this week? 16:55 kados hdl: second question 16:54 kados thanks 16:54 hdl closed 16:54 kados hdl: great, thanks ... I'll close the bug 16:53 hdl ok fixed. 16:52 kados hdl: can you verify that 2048 is fixed? 16:52 hdl yes 16:52 kados hdl ? 16:51 kados hdl_laptop: you around? 15:38 Mjollnir` chris: http://docs.moodle.org/en/Development:Portfolio_API 13:55 hdl_laptop hi tinaburger : how are you ? 13:24 masonj nice work! 13:09 pie heh, well, I didn't go to bed yet and I got both the main site and the intranet sites working :-D 12:33 pie anyway, goodnight all, I'm definitely off to bed this time! 12:33 pie oopse, ww :-) 12:33 pie w/in 9 12:21 pie is there much difference? sorry, I don't know much about Marc (yet) 12:20 pie I suspect I want the latter but it defaults to the former 12:19 pie hi guys, when running perl Makefile.PL, so I want marc21 or unimarc?