Time  Nick     Message
18:09 gmcharlt right - I can put something together over weekend if needed
18:08 ryan     i recall talking about allowing user to specify column headers for an import file
18:08 gmcharlt ryan: no. why?
18:07 ryan     gmcharlt:  did you have a patch in the queue for import_borrowers.pl ?
17:13 owen     with periodicity implies that you don't
17:13 owen     I see: irregular implies that you /do/ know when it comes out
17:13 hdl      But without periodicity is when you donot have any regularity
17:13 hdl      it is irregular
17:13 hdl      owen : say it comes out on January, then in October and December for instance
17:12 hdl      irregular stands for sthg that is not "regular" but has a periodicity
17:11 paul     bye world. Have a good day/night depending on where you are.
16:44 owen     thanks
16:43 paul     yes. If you have several subscription of the same title at the same branch
16:43 owen     paul, am correct that serials-collection.pl might list multiple subscriptions?
16:30 owen     Interesting, so it's a UNIMARC thing. I wonder if MARC has a corresponding set of descriptions...
16:30 paul     hdl, any idea ?
16:30 paul     in UNIMARC there are both. I can't say what's the difference...
16:29 owen     I see there's a choice to say that the frequency is "irregular." Does "irregular" not cover that case?
16:29 paul     which can arrive in 1 year... or 2...
16:29 paul     when you subscribe to the title, you subscribe for 6 issues.
16:29 paul     some very specific (usually high level science) don't have a true periodicity
16:28 paul     yes.
16:28 owen     paul, hdl, do you know what "without periodicity" means when specifying a serial's frequency?
15:48 hdl      this could be handled via batch modifications of biblios
15:47 paul     to specify that "CD" are "1st floor", where "children's book" are "2nd floor", and "adult books" are ...
15:45 paul     sometimes, the library also want some rewrite on localisation (or call number)
15:45 gmcharlt how much do the scripts vary - are the main differences just setting the specific branch codes for eaach library, or are there more complicated changes that vary from library to library?
15:44 paul     atz : we could add a "plugin" system, where we could do those rewrite
15:44 atz      paul: that sounds difficult
15:43 gmcharlt so some generalized item parsing and mapping mechanism would be useful
15:42 paul     in France, each "département" (we have 100) has a local "bibliothèque départementale de prêt", who issues large number (200+) books to local small libraries & give them thelist of books they've issued, for inclusion in local ILS. we have to write a specific script for each library to "rewrite" the items on the fly
15:40 gmcharlt 3. implement handling authority record loads in same manner
15:40 gmcharlt 2. possibly ability to hook in custom routines to parse item data (so that you wouldn't need to create the 952/949/995 fields before staging the file)
15:39 gmcharlt 1. ability to get report of authority heading issues in staged batch
15:39 gmcharlt and due to have more added to it in post-3.0, including
15:38 paul     (something like changing the homebranch/holdingbranch)
15:38 paul     it will just lack the possibility to do some local changes on the item and that would be the handiest tool we could have...
15:38 paul     wow, that's really great, wonderful, powerfull, ...
15:37 gmcharlt yes, matched_biblionumber
15:37 gmcharlt undo restores original bib (or deletes it if was added) and deletes any items added by the op (keeping other items that were not directly part of that import operation)
15:37 paul     field matched_biblionumber ?
15:36 gmcharlt also stores copy of previous state of a replaced bib
15:36 gmcharlt when each record is imported, the ID of bib that is added (or replaced) is attached to the staged record via import_biblios
15:36 paul     how does it works (ie : how does it know the biblionumber ?)
15:35 gmcharlt yes
15:35 paul     remove it from the catalogue ?
15:35 gmcharlt if you go back to the same batch, you now have an option to undo it
15:35 paul     oh, I see !
15:35 gmcharlt it shows up after you completd an import of a batch
15:34 paul     where is the "undo import button"...
15:34 paul     ok, will do it immediatly
15:34 gmcharlt paul: do you see any ambiguity in the reverse operation ('Undo import')?
15:34 gmcharlt paul: more like I don't disagree - i.e., it's fine with me
15:34 hdl      + will be good to be able to make a list to import into catalogue in 3.10 :D
15:32 paul     gmcharlt: do you agree to spell the button differently ?
15:32 hdl      thx gmcharlt
15:32 hdl      yes and this is very handy
15:32 paul     shame on me to have never tested that. A customer entered something like 200 biblios in the catalogue without planning to do it...
15:32 gmcharlt yes (but note that when batch is imported, copies of bib are still left in reservoir)
15:32 hdl      I had the same surprise in la Trappe.
15:31 paul     a file with status "staged" is in the reservoir, while a batch with a status "imported" is now in the catalogue, right ?
15:30 paul     the button should be written differently I think. Something like "import to catalogue"
15:30 paul     one of our client thought it was to validate the staging...
15:29 paul     the button "Complete import" will transfer from reservoir to catalogue right ?
15:29 paul     no, it's more a terminology problem I think
15:28 paul     mmm... there is a diff between en & french versions...
15:28 hdl      you merely click on import
15:28 gmcharlt when stage complets, will give you a link to the management page for that batch, or you can access it via the 'manage marc batches' link
15:27 paul     but how do I start the 2nd step ?
15:27 paul     stage-marc-import is the 1st step
15:27 gmcharlt it's two step process - stage, then go to batch management and commit
15:26 paul     how do you 'import' ?
15:25 gmcharlt in stores in reservoir (note that the marc_breeding table was renamed to Import_batches and friends), doesn't import directly until you commit via the manage-marc-import.pl tool
15:24 paul     does it store only in reservoir (marc_breeding) table or can it be used to import directly in DB ?
15:24 gmcharlt good afternoon
15:23 paul     yes, ('morning gmcharlt
15:23 gmcharlt paul: questions about stage and mange marc-import?
15:09 owen     I'm too slow! :) Yeah, that was a new css property introduced by the tablesorter js
15:09 paul     gotcha. it's th.header
15:06 paul     the order-able columns items are almost-white on white with blue.css. Can you tell me the name of the css property to change ?
15:05 paul     (login/passwd : abel/abel), page : http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/circ/pendingreserves.pl
15:04 paul     owen around ?
14:17 atz      owen: probably not yet
14:17 owen     should I be able to see that in my install?
14:16 atz      any ideas for a workaround?
14:16 atz      (which submits the larger cart/bookbag form)
14:16 atz      ... but not when the user hits enter
14:16 atz      owen: i've got AJAX for tagging "on list" working with the "Add Tag" buttons...
14:14 paul     hi owen
14:13 owen     Hi paul. Not me :)
14:11 paul     is there someone around that can answer a few questions about tools/manage-marc-import.pl and tools/stage-marc-importe.pl ?
14:11 paul     hello world.