Time  Nick           Message
13:11 acmoore        gmcharlt, It dawned on my why override_context_prefs.pm was seemingly getting loaded during a 'make test'. Test::Class::Load loads all .pm modules in the directory that you pass it. We should be passing it 'lib', not '.'.
13:11 gmcharlt       acmoore: ahh, of course
13:12 gmcharlt       acmoore: behold the power of a punctuation mark in Perl ;-)
15:34 MatthewMetzger Hello, is there a documentation team for Koha?
15:35 MatthewMetzger I'm interested in contributing...
15:35 paul           MatthewMetzger: you should ask nengard, she's writing some doc afaik.
15:36 paul           and it should be available on the new koha.org site, community driven if I don't mind
15:36 nengard        MatthewMetzger i'm just waiting for the new koha site!!! I'd love help - but right now all docs are on my domain
15:36 MatthewMetzger paul: thanks.
15:36 MatthewMetzger nengard: Hello.
15:36 nengard        i sent an eamil out asking everyone to make a decisions ... but got no answer
15:37 nengard        MatthewMetzger i'm also very close to done as it is - but it will need editing, more meat once it's out there in the world :)
15:37 MatthewMetzger nengard: I graduated with an English degree and have editing a book that's been published before.
15:38 MatthewMetzger I'm interested in helping, but probably won't have serious time until June.
15:38 MatthewMetzger s/editing/edited
15:38 nengard        MatthewMetzger - ditto here - english major and editing a book that's being published ;) hehe - good combo!!
15:38 nengard        MatthewMetzger good - hopefully by June it will be on a community driven site
15:39 MatthewMetzger nengard: I've seen notices about a Plone design contest for the website. Will that be a replacement for the current wiki?
15:39 nengard        as far as i know - it's going to replace the current koha.org site and will have a plone documentation module for the manual - don't know about the wiki
15:40 MatthewMetzger nengard: can I take a look at what you have now? You mentioned that it was on your domain.
15:43 nengard        MatthewMetzger i have to check with the liblime folks - and josh is on vaca ... i'll keep you psted
15:43 nengard        posted
15:44 MatthewMetzger nengard: okay. Thanks. What's your connection to Koha? Are you a librarian or sysadmin?
15:45 nengard        I am the open source evangelist for LibLime ... resume: http://web2learning.net/about-me/resume
15:45 MatthewMetzger nengard: That's very cool!
15:45 nengard        yes!! the best job title ever!!!
15:48 MatthewMetzger Your resume looks good. I have similar experience, but am lacking in the web programming and database area. It's cool that you studied both English and Computer science in college.
15:48 MatthewMetzger I should have, but I only did English (what was I thinking?)
15:49 MatthewMetzger Oh, well. I have three years experience now as a sysadmin for a private school (that uses Koha for their library - at my urging)
15:49 nengard        MatthewMetzger i fell into it - was only doing english but had to take a science class and hate bio and chem so i did comp sci and fell in love
15:49 nengard        but it was so long ago that comp sci wasn't what it is today
15:49 nengard        but i did learn a lot
15:50 nengard        and it got me where i am today - a lot of people are starting to look for web people who can write
15:50 MatthewMetzger That's good news for me.
15:50 MatthewMetzger :)
15:57 paul           nengard: if your doc is really about to be released, could you send it to us for translation ?
15:57 nengard        paul i don't have one doc - let me ask josh how we can do this best
15:58 paul           what does it mean "I don't have one doc" ?
15:58 paul           one = you have X docs
15:58 paul           one = a
15:58 paul           ?
15:58 nengard        i have 100 docs
15:59 paul           hehe... that may be better to translate : we could ask 100ppl to do the translation !
15:59 MatthewMetzger paul: good idea! Distributed labor.
15:59 paul           I'm sure I could find more than 1 frenchie to do this job !
15:59 nengard        :) that's what we did - we shared writing the docs
16:00 nengard        not 100 people though
16:02 paul           what is the format of those 100 docs ? ODF ?
16:05 nengard        annoying man on the phone.......
16:05 paul           and annoying man on the chat...
16:05 nengard        lol
16:06 paul           not a well starting day ;-)
16:06 nengard        not at all
16:06 nengard        docs are in google docs
16:07 paul           if I don't mind, one can export them in ODF, right ?
16:07 nengard        can't get him off the phone
16:07 nengard        ummm ... have to check on odf..
16:08 paul           an evangelist must have evangelic behaviour 24/7 !!! ;-)
16:08 nengard        yes - open office is a format you can export
16:08 MatthewMetzger I second Paul's suggestion about ODF conversion.
16:09 paul           except for the time needed to export 100 docs, that could be a quick solution
16:09 nengard        well - i want it all in plone which will let us manage each doc on the web -
16:09 nengard        that way we can all work at once
16:09 MatthewMetzger At least for people who are helping edit. Distribution will probably be better in HTML and PDF.
16:09 nengard        and translate easy
16:10 MatthewMetzger Web is good :)
16:11 paul           nengard: in french we say "à défaut de grives on mange des merles". Which can be translated : "if you can't have foie gras, be happy with mac do"
16:11 nengard        want to eat my lunch!!!!! how do i stop him talking
16:11 nengard        it's not about open source
16:11 nengard        it's not my job
16:11 nengard        damn being out in the public
16:12 MatthewMetzger nengard: I sent you an email, so you can contact me later about documentation.
16:12 nengard        great
16:12 paul           just unplug the phone, that could do the job
16:12 MatthewMetzger nengard: One of us can call you on the other line so you could excuse yourself....
16:13 nengard        got it
16:13 nengard        off the phone
16:13 nengard        going to eat now!!!
16:13 nengard        finally get to eat
16:13 MatthewMetzger bye..
16:46 nengard        I forget who was on when i asked this ... but i'll ask again - does anyone on know much about the zotero integration?
16:46 nengard         <nengard>  <nengard> zotero question - I don't use this tool much - does anyone know why when you add an item from koha to zotero the view button is grayed out? the only option is to locate and that sends me to worldcat
16:46 nengard         <nengard>  <nengard> also - zotero doesn't seem to be working on opac.liblime.com but it works on my install
17:03 hdl            nengard:  afaik, it is all about coins support.
17:03 hdl            But i donot know much about how zotero was enabled.
17:03 nengard        do we know who developed it?
17:03 nengard        i can ask them how it works
17:04 hdl            kados or gmcharlt did
17:04 nengard        thanks
17:04 nengard        i'll ask them
17:04 gmcharlt       yes, it was kados
17:06 nengard        poor kados is going to have 300 emails just from me :)
17:16 hdl            gmcharlt: Is someone working on subscriptions ?
17:17 gmcharlt       hdl: none from LL specifically at the moment, unless ryan's working on a patch or two - why do you ask?
17:17 hdl            gmcharlt: I got no answers to my RFC on table adding for subscription management
17:18 gmcharlt       hdl: sorry - yes, I should respond to that
17:18 hdl            And I would like to implement those changes so that subscription would not be a redo process each time you edit.
17:18 gmcharlt       got a related RFC for 3.2/3.4 in the works for holdings that will come up in a couple weeks or thereabouts
17:20 gmcharlt       hdl: I'll look over it this weekend
17:20 hdl            I know that we donot fully support subscription holdings information at the moment. But keeping recorded data safe is important.
17:21 hdl            And with all this javascript, the process is quite unsafe.
17:22 hdl            do you know when joshua will be back ?
17:24 nengard        last week he said he had 9 weeks of travel!!  not all vaca - but he's on the road for a while
17:24 hdl            wow.
17:24 nengard        i know!!! i'd be totally wiped out
17:25 hdl            (lucky enough he doesnot have a child)
17:30 hdl            about your ISBN problem,
17:30 hdl            it can be owed to Standard Number misuse
17:31 hdl            or to hyphens in the data, which are processed as spaces.