Time Nick Message 15:54 owen wb newlogbot 15:54 owen anyone know why the "Dropbox mode" section of returns.tmpl says "fixme" ? 15:58 acmoore I have a patch that needs to make a database change. is there a policy on database version numbers in updatedatabase.pl to prevent me from stepping on the toes of someone else who's making a similar change right now? 15:58 nengard question about network printers - can someone give me an example of what to enter in each of the three fields? (printer name, queue, type) ... and where do these come from - do they just match the printer settings on your computer? 15:58 owen acmoore, you have to call it, like shotgun 15:58 gmcharlt acmoore: I have 074, but won't be able to commit today - why don't you take it 15:59 acmoore owen, thanks. Is there a running list of who is sitting where so far? 15:59 frederic hello 15:59 gmcharlt acmoore: no; so far QA and RM resolve clashes 15:59 acmoore gmcharlt, does that goof you up at all? 15:59 kados acmoore: yea, I'm fine resolving any conflicts 15:59 gmcharlt acmoore: no, easy for me to deal with 15:59 kados it's a two line fix generally 15:59 acmoore OK. so, I get $DBversion = "3.00.00.074"; 15:59 kados I usually edit the patch directly 15:59 kados acmoore: go for it 16:00 kados acmoore: I'll test your patch soon as I get it 16:00 acmoore hizzah! 16:03 cait hi #koha 16:03 cait is it possible to update my koha and get all the nice patches ive seen on the git-page? 16:05 kados cait: yea, you can either download a snapshot, and upgrade, or run in 'dev' mode and rebase every day 16:06 cait first: wheres the difference? 16:06 cait and second: is there a manual for upgrading somewhere? 16:06 cait i thought i saw one but cant find it now :( 16:06 kados cait: the INSTALL and INSTALL.debian files have some hints 16:09 cait aah i deleted them from desktop... *sigh* 16:09 cait but i have another question 16:09 cait can i mail my improved geman .po-files to you at the end of the weekend? 16:11 cait i changed a lot and although its not complete i think its really better now than before 16:16 cait ah, instructions for updating found, thanks for the hint :) 16:24 kados cait: yes, please do 16:24 kados cait: I will upload it to translate.koha.org 16:24 kados and add it to Koha's git repo to appear in the release 16:29 cait thx kados 16:36 nengard question about managing suggestions - i talked to hdl about the updates he made - but one part doesn't do what i'd expect it to do. when on the manage suggestions page if I choose a reason and click the 'mark all with this reason' link nothing happens - i'd expect for all items to be marked with this reason 16:36 nengard URL: koha/suggestion/acceptorreject.pl?op=aorr_confirm#markall 16:37 hdl nengard: the problem was solved by owen. 16:37 hdl as far as i know. 16:37 owen Has that patch been approved? 16:37 nengard hdl do you know when? i just got a new install today and it still doesn't work 16:38 nengard ahh - i guess not yet owen 16:38 nengard but it's good to know it's coming 16:41 kados nengard: I think that patch should be applied now on your install 16:41 kados nengard: give it a shot 16:41 nengard kados++ 16:41 kados nengard: we're talking about owen's patch, right? 16:41 nengard kados it worked - and yes we are 16:41 kados w00t 16:44 kados owen: have you seen Frederick's YUI Rich Text editor patch (second one) 16:45 owen No, I haven't 16:45 kados - Include a link to YUI SimpleEditor widget. So it's available 16:45 kados everywhere in the intranet interface. 16:45 kados - Import locally all required files in yui directory. 16:45 kados - Use YUI SimpleEditor in Koha news editor. 16:46 kados introduces quite a few changes 16:46 kados mostly additional css,png/js files 16:47 owen A link everywhere for YUI editor widget? Does that mean to convert any textarea to a YUI editor? 16:47 kados I don't think it's quite that comprehensive 16:47 kados the patch was sent to the list, if you get some time later, have a look, let me know what you think 16:48 owen Okay 17:09 nengard For managing suggestions - looks like there is a character limit on the title field - this may not be a problem, but i entered a title that got chopped off 17:10 hdl kados : frederic is questionning me about the patch workflow. 17:11 hdl do you have a second ? 17:11 kados hdl: sure do 17:11 hdl he sent some patches. 17:11 hdl including one about GoogleBookSearch 17:11 owen nengard: The field in the database is limited to 80 characters, which I agree isn't big enough. 17:11 hdl that he really wants to have included. 17:12 kados hdl: I have added it already 17:12 nengard owen do you want me to submit a bug or are you just going to fix it when you have time? 17:12 kados hdl: bit it is modified from his version, so that you can have google, amazon, or baker and taylor on 17:12 kados hdl: he can test by creating a new syspref called GoogleJackets 17:12 kados hdl: and turning it ON 17:12 owen I don't do database modifications, so please file a bug 17:13 hdl sure owen : it should be text or longtext. 17:13 owen hdl: even 255 characters would probably suffice. 17:14 owen Or maybe it's not worth limiting 17:14 hdl You don't know french librarians :D 17:14 frederic Could someone clarify how the patch submission process work? Several patches I've submitted hadn't been applies, which is great since it means someone tested them, I suppose, and found a reason not to keep them. But I didn't have any feedback. Recently, I received a reject notification from hdl which help to find a solution. But at several occasions, the patches just disappeared. 17:14 frederic Aaahh ok for GoogleBook... 17:15 hdl your YUI editor patch is being inquired and tested. 17:15 frederic hdl: thanks. I'm reading that. 17:16 hdl It seems you could explaine a little bit further : > A link everywhere for YUI editor widget? Does that mean to convert any textarea to a YUI editor? 17:16 hdl Is there any other patch ? 17:16 hdl The one with facets maybe ? 17:17 frederic hdl: yes, GoogleBook (I will take a look on Kados integration) and facets 17:18 hdl your facets modification was quite.... a big trouble for me. 17:18 hdl Modifying all the setup just to have facets in french... quite puzzled me. 17:19 hdl I tried to think of an other possibility. 17:19 frederic A link to YUI Editor is added on every pages. To transform a <textarea> into a YUI SimpleEditor, you just have to code a JavaScript line: example in koha-news.tmpl 17:19 frederic I can open, a server if someone (owen) want to see it in action 17:20 owen Yes, I'd like to see it 17:21 frederic hdl: the other advantage of my solution is that you can tansform any field into a facet. Just like you can add a zebra index modifying zebra config files. That the reason why I do with a text config file put in zebra config file directory 17:22 frederic owen: One minute... I start a server and revert to the appropriate branch 17:22 hdl what about having the facets in the database with their name in the language and a flag that enable facets ? 17:23 kados I think we should just put them in the template for translation 17:24 frederic kados: This way if you want to add a facet, you will have to modify template rather than a config file 17:29 frederic owen: try http://lesc.koha.tamil.fr:8080 -- user test, password test 17:30 frederic if you look at source code, you will see that css,js and resources files are from Yahoo server. But if you turn yuipath it still works 17:31 frederic yui path locally 17:33 owen So when you said "- Include a link to YUI SimpleEditor widget" you mean link to the js source in the global <head> include 17:34 owen I thought you meant link as in <a href=""></a> 17:34 owen I would say we need a rich text editor rarely enough that we shouldn't include it globally 17:34 hdl YUi editor is used in News ? 17:35 hdl at least it should never be used in cataloguing 17:37 kados I think the overhead of loading that library with every page probably isn't worth it overall 17:37 kados except on pages where it's used 17:42 frederic yes, it's globally included. This way if you want to add rich text editor anywhere else, you just have to few lines of javascript in a template 17:42 frederic all those files are cached by web browser, so there isn't any performance issue 17:42 frederic Files are only load the first time 17:43 owen Still, there's no reason to include them globally if they're used in only a few places. If someone wants to edit the template to add the editor, they can add anything they need then. 17:46 frederic owen: My opinion is the exact contrary for the reason I've given: caching. All references to YUI stuff shoul be put in one place, not manually in every template. Otherwise, you end having multiple references to the same files. 17:47 owen frederic: it's just a matter of moving the links to the javascript files from the global include to the top of a couple of templates 17:47 owen There's no duplication 17:48 frederic owen: ok. As you want. " C 17:49 frederic "Include a link to YUI SimpleEditor widget" means adding those lines of JS: 17:49 frederic var editor = new YAHOO.widget.SimpleEditor('... 17:50 frederic etc. about 8 lines 17:51 frederic And with your method, adding two lines to reference simpleeditor.css and simpleditor-beta-min.js 17:51 hdl frederic: i donot think there is any caching on pages at the moment. 17:51 hdl iirc, there is a cache parameter set to 0 on every page. 17:52 frederic hdl: caching is done automatically by web browser for static resources: css, js, images, etc. 17:52 hdl is it done when cache is set to 0 ? 17:53 frederic hdl: good question? 17:53 owen hdl, what do you mean there is a cache parameter set to 0 on every page? 17:54 owen You mean the HTTP headers? 17:54 frederic For me, static files are cached in Firefox. I just verified with Firebug 17:56 hdl sub output_html_with_http_headers ($$$) { 17:56 hdl my($query, $cookie, $html) = @_; 17:56 hdl print $query->header( 17:56 hdl -type => 'text/html', 17:56 hdl -charset => 'UTF-8', 17:56 hdl -cookie => $cookie, 17:56 hdl -Pragma => 'no-cache', 17:56 hdl -'Cache-Control' => 'no-cache', 17:56 hdl 17:56 cait kados: i managed to update koha, thx again 17:57 kados hdl: that is just for pages, not for external content 17:57 kados hdl: the cache settings for things like images, js, etc., is controlled by your apache settings 17:59 hdl oh. 17:59 hdl i note that$ 18:01 frederic yes, cache-control Apache directive how static resources must be cached by client web browser. I suppose Yahoo cache its contents appropriatly (its interest) 18:57 tim When I click on a series in opac-detail.pl in koha3, I get no results. 18:58 tim koha-opac-error_log shows opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with series=Pendragon ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "Unknown qualifier") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 382., referer: http://192.168.1.4/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=series:Pendragon 19:00 kados tim: that looks like a potential bug 19:00 kados tim: can you try editing the template and changing series to se 19:00 kados so the link becomes http://192.168.1.4/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=se:Pendragon 19:00 kados (or just try that search directly 19:01 tim That worked. 19:01 tim I just tried the search directly. 19:02 kados tim: wanna submit a patch? :-) 19:02 kados tim: I'll walk you through the process if you have the time 19:03 kados tim: and your name will go up in lights :-) 19:03 owen Or: I'm editing opac-detail right now, I can make the change 19:03 owen (not that I want to steal tim's potential fame!) 19:03 kados hehe 19:04 kados owen: go ahead, tim and I can find something else if he's interested 19:05 tim I should've asked this earlier. I'd like to know how to do that, but the school gets out early today and any minute I'm gonna be up to my ears in kids. 19:06 kados tim: no worries ... when you're available let me know 19:06 kados tim: we also have a pretty detailed wiki page on the topic 19:06 kados tim: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage 19:07 tim I'll bookmark that. 20:52 mc good night koha people 10:30 hdl gmcharlt_: kados ? 11:47 hdl hi nengard 11:47 hdl !list 11:47 nengard hiya hdl 11:47 hdl how are you ? 11:48 nengard doing okay 11:49 nengard you?