Time  Nick  Message
00:49 atz   time to get a burrito
00:49 atz   rebasing up to speed was an ordeal though
00:32 ryan  atz++
00:02 atz   wooot!
00:02 atz   tags and baker + taylor patches are sent!
20:11 atz   so it would be a one-off
20:11 atz   theirs invokes flash
20:11 owen  We're not using YUI's version anywhere
20:10 owen  atz, theres an include in the staff client that does some AJAXy upload stuff, used by stage-mark-import.pl, but I've never seen it in action
20:08 atz   it's funny, i think of yahoo code as static... like "Yahoo's still doing development?"
20:07 owen  Although yeah, there have been updates. We're actually using an older version now, it's been so long since I started using the YUI stuff
20:07 owen  It wasn't a revision, it was a file I'd linked to in the OPAC without remembering to add to the local files in the intranet
20:06 atz   owen: are we using "Uploader" ?
20:05 atz   cool... it looks like there were a couple revisions in the past month or so
20:01 fbcit tnx owen :)
20:00 owen  fbcit: There were a couple of YUI files missing from git. I'll submit a patch for it today
19:53 owen  No, I've just haven't run the YUI lib locally in a while, so I hadn't seen the error. I'm checking it out
19:52 fbcit ?
19:52 fbcit owen: then is your install using separate yui for opac and staff
19:50 atz   (besides C4)
19:50 atz   and we haven't set aside a convention for using a "common" area
19:50 atz   this kind of thing is annoying...  but currently necessary, since the opac and intranet *could* logically be on different servers
19:50 fbcit so I notice now I looked
19:49 owen  We only have one pref for both intranet and OPAC
19:49 owen  No, not your mistake
19:49 fbcit hold on
19:49 fbcit my mistake
19:49 owen  I wonder what the problem is...
19:49 atz   fbcit: git is current
19:49 owen  I guess it works, though.
19:49 fbcit :-(
19:48 fbcit opps
19:48 owen  ...which of course isn't quite right for the OPAC :|
19:48 fbcit or do I need to get it from Yahoo directly?
19:48 fbcit owen: is the git copy of the yui library up to date?
19:46 fbcit  /intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui
19:45 atz   for many international users, yahoo performance is poorer than local
19:44 fbcit I'm using the current default which I think is local
19:44 owen  Check the yuipath system pref
19:44 atz   you can be set to load local copies, or from yahoo directly
19:44 owen  Sounds like it.
19:42 fbcit ahh, so something on my install?
19:41 owen  That implies that the YUI js libraries are not loading properly
19:41 fbcit it claims "YAHOO is not defined"
19:40 fbcit firebug seems not to like: YAHOO.util.Event.onContentReady("changelanguage", function () {
19:40 owen  What?
19:40 fbcit owen: I'm seeing a couple of js errors in opac-main.pl
19:37 fbcit the deed is done
19:32 fbcit warn "$filename is TOO BIG!!! I refuse to beleagur my database with that much data. Try reducing the pixel dimensions and I\'ll reconsider.";
19:32 fbcit how's this:
19:17 fbcit atz: heh
19:17 fbcit I do think we need to limit based on dimensions, but don't have the brain power to think about it now
19:15 owen  :D
19:15 atz   Thee gogglez, they do nothing!
19:13 owen  Don't forget your goggles
19:12 owen  I think that's safe
19:12 fbcit so maybe 100K for starters?
19:12 owen  Quickly creating an image of that size in Photoshop, adding 100% noise, it comes to 80K
19:11 atz   right, i'm just saying as a practical matter, we don't have layout space to display "more" image data
19:11 fbcit the file size limit is more a protective measure
19:10 atz   in terms of layout
19:10 atz   we're only talking about maybe 120x200 pixels of space
19:10 owen  I'd say llimit to less than 100k, at the very least. Maybe 60.
19:10 fbcit we probably should be doing a limit on dimensions as well
19:09 fbcit right
19:09 owen  and we're not doing any re-sizing on the server, right?
19:09 fbcit owen: not currently
19:08 atz   definitely less than a meg!
19:08 owen  Are we using any other criteria? dimensions?
19:08 fbcit my test images are roughly 20K
19:08 fbcit maybe 1MB or < ?
19:07 fbcit any thoughts on just how large a image file we should allow for patron images?
19:07 fbcit gmcharlt: hi
18:55 fbcit hehe
18:55 atz   Got Reels?  : )
18:53 fbcit I use it to run a warm standby of our web radio broadcaster
18:52 atz   makes sense
18:52 fbcit I currently rsync backups off of several *nix boxes here to a central rsync server
18:52 fbcit actually I could do both
18:52 fbcit surely all of the tapes in a 10 day rotation can't be bad
18:51 atz   that would be normal... or push the gzipped tarball over to a storage server
18:51 fbcit having said that, I may setup a mysqldump and tarball it to the DDS
18:50 fbcit need restore? bad tape--
18:50 fbcit bad drives && bad tapes
18:48 atz   bad carts? bad drives?
18:47 fbcit atz: I have a DDS drive in that server, but have bad experiences w/tape backup
18:20 atz   but that would be overkill for even a midsize institution
18:20 atz   to me, the Cadillac is probably tivoli running on a tape library
18:19 fbcit atz: tnx
18:18 atz   live replication is cool, but mysqldump cron job is probably most common
18:17 atz   fbcit: see anything for mysql backup
18:11 fbcit kados: point me to the discussion of various backup/standby solutions for koha
17:37 slef  never mind then
17:37 slef  or "cripes"
17:37 slef  oo lummee
17:37 hdl   But all the persons will receive it twice.
17:37 slef  thanks
17:37 hdl   yes.
17:36 slef  hdl: can you resend it out to official?
17:16 hdl   slef : email received.
16:56 hdl   But since information is not official, I thought it would be better not to use two systems sending emails to the lists.
16:56 slef  easily confused, aren't I?
16:55 hdl   It will be delivered.
16:55 hdl   no.
16:55 slef  hdl: so my emails to koha-devel just vanished or what? ;-)
16:53 hdl   slef not officially.
16:28 slef  Are the new lists running yet?
15:54 fbcit slef: gotta run, but backtraces++
15:50 slef  assuming no-one's added that to HEAD while I've not been tracking that closely
15:49 slef  Also, I'm pondering adding backtraces to the error messages
15:49 slef  hi all - does anyone else get a list of versions in their error messages when DebugLevel is 2?
15:01 owen  Hi fbcit
15:01 fbcit hi #koha
14:04 hdl   hi thd-away
13:18 owen  No idea.
13:17 hdl   owen : do you know what is happening with plone contest?
13:09 owen  He must be PLAying
13:04 owen  kados around?
12:58 js    hi hdl ans #koha :)
12:56 hdl   hi js
12:54 hdl   I know.
12:43 owen  That's too bad. It looks like it's a nice place when the weather's good
12:43 hdl   Raining.... and raining again.
12:42 hdl   Weather is horrible....
12:42 hdl   not that much.
12:42 owen  Wow. I hope it's also an enjoyable trip for him
12:41 hdl   So he was installing and training persons.
12:41 hdl   (In fact the main public Library there)
12:41 hdl   A big Library was migrated.
12:40 owen  Doing what?
12:40 hdl   and it has poor internet connectivity.
12:39 hdl   Nope, he has been in New Caledonia for 2 weeks and a half now (near NewZealand)
12:38 owen  Hi hdl. I haven't seen paul in a while, is he on vacation?
12:37 hdl   hi owen
12:33 owen  Quiet in #koha today