Time Nick Message 20:58 owen Evening all 20:05 atz i think that jquery will work fine 19:45 owen Even with the YUI stuff I often fall back on jquery to get stuff done I don't know how to do with YUI 19:45 atz cool 19:45 owen We've got a fair amount of jquery in the opac and the intranet 19:44 atz do we already use jquery in non-biblios Koha? 19:43 atz nice 19:42 ccatalfo atz, this will be cool! Since i have jquery docs open, dunno if you're familiar with it's ajax requests. doc for post is here: http://docs.jquery.com/Ajax/jQuery.post#urldatacallbacktype 19:37 atz sure thing 19:36 owen Let me know if I can help squeeze that stuff into my pretty layout ;) 19:35 atz all I know is it's intended for demo next thursday 19:35 atz that's a question for somebody else, methinks 19:34 owen atz, is intended for 3.0? 3.2? 19:33 atz but that is for later 19:33 atz or so you can pull in all tags from professional libraries 19:32 atz so little rural library X doesn't have to rely on their small patron pool to do all the lifting 19:31 atz what would be *really* slick is have a backend for harvesting/aggregating the tags from other Kohas 19:29 atz *interested 19:28 atz SMS, shelfari, etc. 19:28 atz yeah, they are very interesting in advanced functionality 19:28 owen I see. That's great that we have a sponsor for tagging. 19:27 atz orange county 19:27 owen OCLS? 19:26 owen That sounds good. 19:26 atz so ppl can't fill their opac w/ obscenities 19:25 atz there is a whole layer of moderation they require 19:25 atz but i don't think the backend is working for that yet 19:25 atz commas 19:25 owen Are tags separated by spaces, commas? 19:24 owen :) 19:24 atz i know you don't like the clutter in your pretty layout 19:24 atz i have sysprefs that toggle them though 19:23 atz in fact both are in their commissioned specs 19:23 atz check any of the details pages :) 19:22 owen Wouldn't it make more sense to add tags from the detail page? 19:22 owen I would think the link would expand the form box 19:15 atz showing both the form/button style and the regular link style (for which the input box would be useless) 19:15 atz crude mockup here: http://atz.dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=dogs 19:14 atz right 19:13 owen So atz, you're picturing people adding tags to records from the results list? 19:06 atz which would involve some xhtml request in js 19:05 atz but they want to be able to add them without leaving the results list 19:05 atz i can do this easily by linking to an "opac-add-tag.pl?biblionumber=xxx" 19:04 atz the basic idea is tagging of biblios, like flickr (for example) 19:04 owen I'm not sure what you mean by 'add tags from the results list' 19:03 atz interesting 19:03 owen <span class="yui-button yui-link-button" id="editpatron"><span class="first-child"><a href="/cgi-bin/koha/members/memberentry.pl?op=modify&destination=circ&borrowernumber=51&categorycode=PT">Edit</a></span></span> 19:03 owen ...get's turned into this: 19:03 owen This: <a id="editpatron" href="/cgi-bin/koha/members/memberentry.pl?op=modify&destination=circ&borrowernumber=51&categorycode=PT">Edit</a> 19:02 owen For example: 19:02 owen Mostly it's just extra markup getting added to the DOM as hooks for CSS 19:02 atz working on tagging... OCLS wants to be able to add tags from the results list 19:01 atz *acc 19:01 atz no, just convention/acessibility 19:00 owen Are you asking about validity? 18:55 atz it seems like we start with links, and then turn them into buttons? 18:55 atz owen: how does the YUI stuff work for XHTML operations? 17:06 irma Does that make sense? 17:05 irma I don't know how to add 651 to the bibliosubject table 17:04 irma Thanks Owen. When reports are run the library would like to have data from 650$a activity seperated from 651$a but in Koha 2.2.9 they are combined. 16:57 owen Sorry, gotta run 16:55 owen Is the data not displaying correctly for you? 16:54 owen irma, there's no problem with that per se. 16:52 irma Is anyone online able to give me some pointers? 16:50 irma situation? 16:50 irma How does one handle this sutualtion? 16:50 irma That is, if the bibliosubject table had a field called geogsubject (for example) we could map 651$a to it. 16:50 irma The case in point is 651$a where 650$a maps to bibiosubject.subject but there is no field for geographic subject. 16:50 irma What do you do if a library wants to store info for a MARC subfiled that does not have a corresponding place in the Koha tables? 16:49 irma Hi all 15:19 gmcharlt afaik, based on source IP address (as proxy for your country/legal environment), and copyright date of the book, and whether publishers have requested that individual books be yanked 15:19 fbcit how does Google determine what it thinks? 15:19 gmcharlt and actually, more of a supplement, not an alternative, necessarily 15:18 gmcharlt and from that, you can build a link to as much of the scanned book as Google thinks you have rights to 15:18 gmcharlt the API queries Google for the availability of the full text of the book 15:18 gmcharlt fbcit: an alternative 15:17 gmcharlt suppose one possibility is wrapping that up in a nice admin interface, so that you don't have to necessarily edit the templates directly, just store the list of external services links and their URL formats 15:17 fbcit or an alternative? 15:17 fbcit gmcharlt: is the google books feature a replacement for the amazon interface? 15:16 gmcharlt yeah - build on what owen has done, make sure that common identifiers like ISBN, LCCN, OCLC#, etc. are readily available in the details page, and it would be simple to put in links to anything that has a sensible linking structure 15:16 owen Also see Bug 1934 15:16 fbcit owen: a bookfinder link would fit nicely there 15:15 fbcit gmcharlt: it does not look too hard to add 15:14 owen I don't think my commit has been approved yet, but I just added a "search for this title in..." block to opac-detail: http://oleonard.dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=460 15:14 gmcharlt yeah: http://www.bookfinder.com/interact/link/search/ 15:14 fbcit bookfinder searchs other large booksellers, including Amazon, abe, etc. 15:13 fbcit but passing in the isbn or... via cgi params would work I think 15:13 fbcit I did not see one either 15:13 gmcharlt not seeing mention of any other kind of API, though 15:12 gmcharlt fbcit: re bookfinder.com, wouldn't be hard to provide link from the bib page to the bookfinder results 15:12 owen Seems like that would be useful if you weren't outputting too much data, but had limited space to display it in 15:12 owen http://tablesorter.com/docs/example-pager.html As you can see, when you use that method you have to wait for the whole table to load first 15:10 hdl good. 15:10 owen I'm sure there are ways to do what you describe, but I haven't gotten that far 15:10 owen There is a "pager" plugin that will create a paged table for you, but that's if you're outputting the whole thing to the page at once. 15:08 gmcharlt owen: is the plugin purely client side? or does it have the ability to implement a callback to fetch more data? I'm thinking of a case where the dataset is big enough that only part of it is displayed at any one time 15:08 fbcit nice 15:07 owen fbcit, the jquery plugin processes the table which is generated by the template. So users with no js will just see the old unsorted table 15:07 fbcit gmcharlt, even 15:06 fbcit gmchralt: I think koha needs to integrate with www.bookfinder.com 15:06 fbcit is the entire thing jquery? 15:05 owen ...or even if the whole thing will work with other languages 15:05 owen I added a little function for ignoring articles when sorting, which seems to work well for English, but I'm not sure of the best way to internationalize it 15:05 owen Oh, yeah fbcit, the tablesorter plugin is very cool and so easy to implement 15:04 gmcharlt hi fbcit 15:04 fbcit hi gmcharlt 15:03 fbcit re: table sorting that is, heh 15:03 owen :) 15:03 fbcit owen: very smooth! 15:03 gmcharlt oh I'll do that too, but I think it's important to balance that with giving the new guy an actual feature to implement 15:02 gmcharlt oh, I 15:02 owen How about putting him on some bugs first? 15:00 gmcharlt wanted to double-check whether anybody has already started working on it 15:00 gmcharlt I'm thinking of starting him off by implementing the Google Book Availability API in the OPAC bib details page (ref http://code.google.com/apis/books/) 14:59 gmcharlt a new programmer is starting at LL next week 14:58 gmcharlt hi all 14:58 owen It requries the addition of one jquery plugin file, and some javascript added to the page 14:55 hdl Is this a big change ? 14:55 hdl owen : that's quite cool. 14:34 owen Testing out jquery table sorting: http://oleonard.dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-shelves.pl?viewshelf=7 13:58 hdl hi tinaburger 13:02 hdl Some users asked me about that today. I think it is becaus they use an old version. 13:01 hdl Yes. Sorry. 13:00 owen Is it no longer in masthead.inc? 13:00 hdl And I wondered if it was a mistake or a purpose. 13:00 hdl But I saw that opacsmallimage seemed not to be used in templates. 12:59 nengard okey dokey 12:59 hdl Not at all nengard. 12:59 nengard hdl & owen - wasn't it the large image that was supposed to diappear? do i need to go back and edit the manual? 12:56 hdl owen : why have opacsmallimage disappeared from OPAC ? Is there a reason ? 12:55 hdl hi fbcit. 12:55 fbcit hi hdl 12:53 nengard hdl nope - i was at a meeting in NJ about the next generation academic library system - aka - open source for academic libraries - i'm writing up summaries today from that 12:52 hdl nengard: were you at openlibrary meeting. 12:51 nengard fbcit on hold while i do other work for the minute, but josh installed all patches so i should be back on track on monday 12:51 fbcit nengard: how's that manual coming? :) 12:50 hdl Too bad. 12:50 nengard just fyi 12:49 nengard hdl and fbcit i think kados is travelling now 12:34 hdl hi kados : now yes. 12:01 fbcit hi kados 11:34 kados hdl: are you around?