Time Nick Message 13:44 kados g'morning #koha 13:58 owen g'morning to you kados 13:59 kados owen: nice work on the templates 14:01 kados owen: was there a prob with the cart fix for the opac? 14:02 owen I did a bunch of work that ended up being a wrong turn 14:02 owen the stuff I showed you yesterday hasn't been committed yet 14:02 kados gotcha 14:04 Brooke Howdy 14:04 owen Hi Brooke 14:04 Brooke yar Owen's up early 14:04 qiqo hello people 14:04 Brooke you'll never sneak one past him :) 14:05 Brooke hi qiqo 14:05 kados hey Brooke 14:05 Brooke hi 14:05 owen I'm usually up now. It's kados that's up early, given his present time zone 14:05 Brooke which is? 14:05 owen Aren't you still on the west coast kados? 14:08 kados yuppers 14:08 kados Portland 14:09 owen I think kados is secretly getting trained as a barista in case this Koha thing doesn't pan out 14:09 Brooke bwhahahahahahaa 14:09 kados ha! 14:09 Brooke Have you seen the trouble Starbucks is in right now? 14:09 Brooke that's a terrible plan B 14:11 Brooke hypothetically speaking *dons asbestos suit* will there be a 3.0 demo up available to the wide world soonish? 14:13 kados hehe 14:13 kados well, there is a worldish demo up already, but it's not bulletproof just yet 14:13 kados staffdemo.koha.org 14:13 kados opacdemo.koha.org 14:15 kados b4 being a permentant fixture the beta needs to be released and I need to resolve some issues I'm having loading all of the LOC bib and authority data in there 14:15 owen Whoa, that's a lot of translations. 14:15 Brooke *nod* 14:15 Brooke I just wanna know what stuff is eventually gonna look like in case I stop beating up on innocent dinosaurs long enough to write some documentation 14:15 kados owen: yea, that's something we need to address I think, unfortunately the bottom pane works well for 2-3, but once you get past the end of the page it wraps weird ly in some browsers 14:16 owen Yup, that's what I'm seeing 14:16 Brooke Two, count em, two French queries in the past week or so 14:16 kados Brooke: there's a big push right now to finish up a manual, 3 liblimers working on that pretty much full time 14:16 Brooke *nod* 14:17 owen kados: we could think about doing a "more" link for languages, but then you'd have to decide who got stuck with having a second-class language 14:19 Brooke if we start in Japanese and then have English later, it will be perfect! 14:19 Brooke ;) 14:20 kados owen: what if we didn't make the langauge selector sticky at the bottom of the browser pane, but just put it at the bottom of the page instead 14:21 kados the problem with the more idea is that it doesn't take into acount languages that have variants 14:21 kados chinese is the only example of that on the demo 14:21 kados but there are going to be a lot more variants coming, for instnace, fr-FR (France) vs fr-CA (Canada) 14:22 qiqo so we have thai translation? 14:22 owen The YUI menu component does pretty well with sub-menus, so that might not be a problem. 14:23 kados qiqo: partial thai 14:24 qiqo thats cool 14:38 kados bbl 15:11 fbcit g'morning koha 15:12 qiqo wow it's morning there? 15:12 qiqo morning fbct 15:12 fbcit g'morning || g'evening || g'night koha 15:12 fbcit :) 15:12 qiqo haah 15:13 qiqo it's 11pm here 15:13 fbcit Philippines ? 15:13 qiqo yup 15:13 qiqo :) 15:13 fbcit I have several friends there. 15:14 qiqo really? from where? 15:15 fbcit some near Manila, some in Sibu (sp?), and a few other places 15:15 qiqo ohh cebu 15:15 qiqo cool 15:15 qiqo hehe 15:16 qiqo hmm a while ago i was at the asian development bank... god, i hate that library 15:16 qiqo they were using vtls.. it was fine, but for a big bank, they only have 3 staff 15:16 qiqo its should be the worldbank of asia.. but im quite dissapointed, they used to give 5 star library treatment 16:21 fbcit kados around? 16:23 fbcit u around owen? 16:23 owen Yes 16:24 fbcit have you ever wished for a <!-- TMPL_ELSIF --> tag? 16:24 fbcit if so, it will be in ver 69 of Template::Pro 16:25 owen :) 16:25 fbcit I just tested a copy and it greatly reduces the amount of coding in my error traps in picture-upload.tmpl 16:26 fbcit I suspect it will come in handy to reduce code in other places as well. 16:27 owen I'm just now getting used to being able to use TMPL_IF EXPR. I'm sure there's lots of places that could use another look just for that 16:30 kados fbcit: hiya 16:31 kados hey paul 16:31 paul hello kados fbcit & owen 16:31 kados paul: note the CircControl bugfixing just pushed up 16:31 paul yep, i've seen it 16:31 paul typo fix, but important fix ! 16:31 fbcit kados: the author of Template::Pro has graciously added a <!-- TMPL_ELSIF --> tag and will release it in 0.69 16:31 fbcit I tested it today and it works great 16:32 paul kados : hdl was impressed by Biblios... 16:32 fbcit any problem with bumping to Template::Pro 0.69 once it's in cpan? 16:33 fbcit kados:it greatly reduces the confusion of tags in the templates when you have multiple ELSE 16:33 fbcit hi paul 16:33 kados fbcit: sounds good to me 16:34 paul kados : is there a git repo of Biblios, or a demo site ? 16:34 kados paul: not yet, but soon 16:35 paul OpenCataloger is born dead then ? 16:40 kados up to you, really 16:40 paul seeing the description did of it, I think it is 16:40 kados biblios doesn't have unimarc yet, but it could quickly have unimarc 16:40 paul seeing the description hdl did of it, I think it is 16:41 paul that will probably be the 1st contrib we will do to this tool ;-) 17:18 kados paul: once the git repo is in place that should be trivial to contribute 17:18 kados I think hdl talked to chris catalfo about it yesterday 17:18 paul (hdl told me he was very tired & has no more strength...) 17:18 paul (jet lag + english 24H a day + conferences + ...) 17:19 kados I bet 17:21 paul the more I work with git, the more I like it... 17:46 paul kados : 7 patches sent 17:46 paul_away bye & see you tomorrow morning (7PM here) 18:09 kados yea, because the session variable should be cleare 18:09 kados d 18:12 owen The cart cookie is separate 18:12 owen It's not dependent on a user's login 18:51 fbcit kados: what are your thoughts on the labels_profiles table paul mentioned? Where does it need to be added? 19:33 kados fbcit: good question 19:33 kados fbcit: I'll defer to someone who knows the domain a bit better than me 19:33 kados fbcit: you have any prefs? 19:33 fbcit kados: I was not around when that table was added 19:34 fbcit but I imagine it should either be added to the upgrade script or to the appropriate point in updatedatabase.pl 19:35 kados agreed 19:35 fbcit unfortunately current Koha 3.0 installs could be out of sync in this respect and neither solution would correct that 19:35 fbcit new installs will not be a problem 19:36 fbcit really only upgrades and out-of-sync 3.0 installs 19:36 fbcit upgrades can be solved by adding it to either place 19:36 fbcit we could build a separate script to add the table to existing 3.0 installs w/o it 19:37 fbcit or 19:37 kados well, adding it to updatedatabase should be safe 19:37 kados it will just fail if you already have it, right? 19:37 fbcit right 19:37 fbcit you're one step ahead :) 19:37 kados I think we can live with that 19:37 fbcit we could actually check for it's existence and only add if it does not exist 19:38 kados oh, yea, that would actuall y be trivial 19:38 kados fbcit++ 19:38 fbcit I'll put it on my list to do before Saturday 19:38 kados fbcit++++ 19:38 kados hehe 19:40 kados hehe 19:40 fbcit this would get rid of having to look for the bottom all of the time 19:40 kados so some peole think I'm super responsive, others think I'm a total space cadet :-) 19:40 fbcit heh 19:41 kados OK, lunch time in portland 19:41 kados bbl 19:41 kados and again 19:41 kados fbcit++ 20:14 atrus123 Seems to be a problem with the git repo.. I'm getting a premature EOF error when trying to sync 02:17 irma Mason: Hi James