Time  Nick      Message
13:44 kados     g'morning #koha
13:58 owen      g'morning to you kados
13:59 kados     owen: nice work on the templates
14:01 kados     owen: was there a prob with the cart fix for the opac?
14:02 owen      I did a bunch of work that ended up being a wrong turn
14:02 owen      the stuff I showed you yesterday hasn't been committed yet
14:02 kados     gotcha
14:04 Brooke    Howdy
14:04 owen      Hi Brooke
14:04 Brooke    yar Owen's up early
14:04 qiqo      hello people
14:04 Brooke    you'll never sneak one past him :)
14:05 Brooke    hi qiqo
14:05 kados     hey Brooke
14:05 Brooke    hi
14:05 owen      I'm usually up now. It's kados that's up early, given his present time zone
14:05 Brooke    which is?
14:05 owen      Aren't you still on the west coast kados?
14:08 kados     yuppers
14:08 kados     Portland
14:09 owen      I think kados is secretly getting trained as a barista in case this Koha thing doesn't pan out
14:09 Brooke    bwhahahahahahaa
14:09 kados     ha!
14:09 Brooke    Have you seen the trouble Starbucks is in right now?
14:09 Brooke    that's a terrible plan B
14:11 Brooke    hypothetically speaking *dons asbestos suit* will there be a 3.0 demo up available to the wide world soonish?
14:13 kados     hehe
14:13 kados     well, there is a worldish demo up already, but it's not bulletproof just yet
14:13 kados     staffdemo.koha.org
14:13 kados     opacdemo.koha.org
14:15 kados     b4 being a permentant fixture the beta needs to be released and I need to resolve some issues I'm having loading all of the LOC bib and authority data in there
14:15 owen      Whoa, that's a lot of translations.
14:15 Brooke    *nod*
14:15 Brooke    I just wanna know what stuff is eventually gonna look like in case I stop beating up on innocent dinosaurs long enough to write some documentation
14:15 kados     owen: yea, that's something we need to address I think, unfortunately the bottom pane works well for 2-3, but once you get past the end of the page it wraps weird ly in some browsers
14:16 owen      Yup, that's what I'm seeing
14:16 Brooke    Two, count em, two French queries in the past week or so
14:16 kados     Brooke: there's a big push right now to finish up a manual, 3 liblimers working on that pretty much full time
14:16 Brooke    *nod*
14:17 owen      kados: we could think about doing a "more" link for languages, but then you'd have to decide who got stuck with having a second-class language
14:19 Brooke    if we start in Japanese and then have English later, it will be perfect!
14:19 Brooke    ;)
14:20 kados     owen: what if we didn't make the langauge selector sticky at the bottom of the browser pane, but just put it at the bottom of the page instead
14:21 kados     the problem with the more idea is that it doesn't take into acount languages that have variants
14:21 kados     chinese is the only example of that on the demo
14:21 kados     but there are going to be a lot more variants coming, for instnace, fr-FR (France) vs fr-CA (Canada)
14:22 qiqo      so we have thai translation?
14:22 owen      The YUI menu component does pretty well with sub-menus, so that might not be a problem.
14:23 kados     qiqo: partial thai
14:24 qiqo      thats cool
14:38 kados     bbl
15:11 fbcit     g'morning koha
15:12 qiqo      wow it's morning there?
15:12 qiqo      morning fbct
15:12 fbcit     g'morning || g'evening || g'night koha
15:12 fbcit     :)
15:12 qiqo      haah
15:13 qiqo      it's 11pm here
15:13 fbcit     Philippines ?
15:13 qiqo      yup
15:13 qiqo      :)
15:13 fbcit     I have several friends there.
15:14 qiqo      really? from where?
15:15 fbcit     some near Manila, some in Sibu (sp?), and a few other places
15:15 qiqo      ohh cebu
15:15 qiqo      cool
15:15 qiqo      hehe
15:16 qiqo      hmm a while ago i was at the asian development bank... god, i hate that library
15:16 qiqo      they were using vtls.. it was fine, but for a big bank, they only have 3 staff
15:16 qiqo      its should be the worldbank of asia.. but im quite dissapointed, they used to give 5 star library treatment
16:21 fbcit     kados around?
16:23 fbcit     u around owen?
16:23 owen      Yes
16:24 fbcit     have you ever wished for a <!-- TMPL_ELSIF --> tag?
16:24 fbcit     if so, it will be in ver 69 of Template::Pro
16:25 owen      :)
16:25 fbcit     I just tested a copy and it greatly reduces the amount of coding in my error traps in picture-upload.tmpl
16:26 fbcit     I suspect it will come in handy to reduce code in other places as well.
16:27 owen      I'm just now getting used to being able to use TMPL_IF EXPR. I'm sure there's lots of places that could use another look just for that
16:30 kados     fbcit: hiya
16:31 kados     hey paul
16:31 paul      hello kados fbcit & owen
16:31 kados     paul: note the CircControl bugfixing just pushed up
16:31 paul      yep, i've seen it
16:31 paul      typo fix, but important fix !
16:31 fbcit     kados: the author of Template::Pro has graciously added a <!-- TMPL_ELSIF --> tag and will release it in 0.69
16:31 fbcit     I tested it today and it works great
16:32 paul      kados : hdl was impressed by Biblios...
16:32 fbcit     any problem with bumping to Template::Pro 0.69 once it's in cpan?
16:33 fbcit     kados:it greatly reduces the confusion of tags in the templates when you have multiple ELSE
16:33 fbcit     hi paul
16:33 kados     fbcit: sounds good to me
16:34 paul      kados : is there a git repo of Biblios, or a demo site ?
16:34 kados     paul: not yet, but soon
16:35 paul      OpenCataloger is born dead then ?
16:40 kados     up to you, really
16:40 paul      seeing the description did of it, I think it is
16:40 kados     biblios doesn't have unimarc yet, but it could quickly have unimarc
16:40 paul      seeing the description hdl did of it, I think it is
16:41 paul      that will probably be the 1st contrib we will do to this tool ;-)
17:18 kados     paul: once the git repo is in place that should be trivial to contribute
17:18 kados     I think hdl talked to chris catalfo about it yesterday
17:18 paul      (hdl told me he was very tired & has no more strength...)
17:18 paul      (jet lag + english 24H a day + conferences + ...)
17:19 kados     I bet
17:21 paul      the more I work with git, the more I like it...
17:46 paul      kados : 7 patches sent
17:46 paul_away bye & see you tomorrow morning (7PM here)
18:09 kados     yea, because the session variable should be cleare
18:09 kados     d
18:12 owen      The cart cookie is separate
18:12 owen      It's not dependent on a user's login
18:51 fbcit     kados: what are your thoughts on the labels_profiles table paul mentioned? Where does it need to be added?
19:33 kados     fbcit: good question
19:33 kados     fbcit: I'll defer to someone who knows the domain a bit better than me
19:33 kados     fbcit: you have any prefs?
19:33 fbcit     kados: I was not around when that table was added
19:34 fbcit     but I imagine it should either be added to the upgrade script or to the appropriate point in updatedatabase.pl
19:35 kados     agreed
19:35 fbcit     unfortunately current Koha 3.0 installs could be out of sync in this respect and neither solution would correct that
19:35 fbcit     new installs will not be a problem
19:36 fbcit     really only upgrades and out-of-sync 3.0 installs
19:36 fbcit     upgrades can be solved by adding it to either place
19:36 fbcit     we could build a separate script to add the table to existing 3.0 installs w/o it
19:37 fbcit     or
19:37 kados     well, adding it to updatedatabase should be safe
19:37 kados     it will just fail if you already have it, right?
19:37 fbcit     right
19:37 fbcit     you're one step ahead :)
19:37 kados     I think we can live with that
19:37 fbcit     we could actually check for it's existence and only add if it does not exist
19:38 kados     oh, yea, that would actuall y be trivial
19:38 kados     fbcit++
19:38 fbcit     I'll put it on my list to do before Saturday
19:38 kados     fbcit++++
19:38 kados     hehe
19:40 kados     hehe
19:40 fbcit     this would get rid of having to look for the bottom all of the time
19:40 kados     so some peole think I'm super responsive, others think I'm a total space cadet :-)
19:40 fbcit     heh
19:41 kados     OK, lunch time in portland
19:41 kados     bbl
19:41 kados     and again
19:41 kados     fbcit++
20:14 atrus123  Seems to be a problem with the git repo.. I'm getting a premature EOF error when trying to sync
02:17 irma      Mason: Hi James